Do All MERCY Players Think The Same? | OverThink

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  • @ChristalRaine
    @ChristalRaine  Рік тому +25

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  • @shantanugupta4442
    @shantanugupta4442 Рік тому +1204

    Do one for reinhardt mains. Pretty sure all the 7 people still playing reinhardt will have a fun time discussing their trauma.

    • @thebighoney9034
      @thebighoney9034 Рік тому +121

      Christal: "do you charge into a 1v5 i when....."
      All Seven in unison: " *Y E S* "

    • @RandommBoyo
      @RandommBoyo Рік тому

      "all 7 ppl still playing reinhardt"
      Do you have a stupid?

    • @pokimanefartcompilation
      @pokimanefartcompilation Рік тому +36

      Christal: "Live with honour..."
      Rein Bros: "DIE WITH GLORY!!!"

    • @petitmorte2186
      @petitmorte2186 Рік тому +16

      they would literally just charge out of the room never to be seen again

    • @chrissy1581
      @chrissy1581 Рік тому +4

      i feel personally attacked bc i love rein but also all of these are comments are spot on sooooooooo

  • @steelframe17
    @steelframe17 Рік тому +810

    An overthink on bastion mains would be funny

    • @insecticaa
      @insecticaa Рік тому +66

      "do you get out of turret form when a Genji deflects"

    • @fireblaze6837
      @fireblaze6837 Рік тому +47

      @@insecticaa no 😎

    • @cat8506
      @cat8506 Рік тому +24

      there aren't even 8 bastion mains in the world

    • @batatanna
      @batatanna Рік тому +9

      Yea all 3 of them

    • @db3919
      @db3919 Рік тому +10

      bastion mains don’t think😔

  • @trigger3230
    @trigger3230 Рік тому +417

    never seen mercy's face up close before. i love how bored she looks. like her face says " god why am i even here. " has her face always been like that.

    • @dear_cupid
      @dear_cupid Рік тому +10

      Yes 😭

    • @egirlnaila
      @egirlnaila Рік тому +43

      i think she plays on much lower graphics settings, mercys never look that depressed for me LOL

    • @cherrybeetree
      @cherrybeetree Рік тому +13

      its the graphic settings, all the faces look weird af on low settings

    • @Ursaring_Fan
      @Ursaring_Fan Рік тому

      It’s cause she’s the easiest character in the game

    • @petitmorte2186
      @petitmorte2186 Рік тому +13

      they're just trying to figure out why they even bother

  • @imightbetash
    @imightbetash Рік тому +418

    Overthink is by far my fave overwatch series at the moment, I love the diverse opinions that come through!

    • @IAmDocTho
      @IAmDocTho Рік тому +2

      ye its cool

    • @Merkyotp0
      @Merkyotp0 Рік тому

      Especially from pro players too

  • @asymmetricfuzion970
    @asymmetricfuzion970 Рік тому +262

    Also the one trick one
    Let’s say you’re top 500. You get into your duo. You are a mercy solider one trick duo. You start the game. Other two lock in mercy solider. You ask them to switch and they both go “nah I’m a one trick”. Now what?

    • @insecticaa
      @insecticaa Рік тому +18

      exactly this

    • @EgoStolidus
      @EgoStolidus Рік тому +43

      some games are like that, most wont be

    • @TheRedRos
      @TheRedRos Рік тому +8

      Doesn't happen. And if it does GG teammates thru the game bye

    • @psyjinx
      @psyjinx Рік тому +67

      2 soldier onetricks on the same team at t500 is a miracle

    • @digojez
      @digojez Рік тому +4

      @@psyjinx replace soldier with Sojourn

  • @sachaweon3586
    @sachaweon3586 Рік тому +198

    The thing with one tricks is that the general Overwatch rule of "focus on yourself" still applies. Like, you can't control whether or not someone is going to switch, so if they are playing into counters or struggling then you need to focus on helping them to make up for where they are lacking. It doesn't do anything to get tilted and throw or leave or ignore the teammate because they're a one trick and won't switch.

    • @sachaweon3586
      @sachaweon3586 Рік тому +14

      @@sendhelplea Then it is what it is, do your best to do what you can and move on to the next game. Some one tricks can be toxic, others will try their best on a different hero, you can't control which kind of person you'll get (just like all other teammates). I think the person in the video saying one tricks ruin the fun for others is taking something personally that doesn't need to be taken personally. Obviously it's frustrating if the person is toxic or throwing, but in most cases that I've experienced, one tricks are usually just trying their best. If you're hyperfocused on someone on your team being a one trick to the point that you're picking apart their gameplay, maybe even vocally in chat, you're just throwing your own game at that point. Better to focus on what you can do to try to sway the win than getting tilted about something you have no control over. Same thing goes for if there are two one tricks, if you're spending time to comb through their career profile and thinking to yourself, "this Kiri is playing like a bot because they're a Mercy one trick" (or whatever the case) it leads to the same issue of picking apart their gameplay and shifting the focus off of your own.

    • @sachaweon3586
      @sachaweon3586 Рік тому

      @@sendhelplea At the end of the day I just don't think it has that much of an effect on the game and if you are letting it affect your personal enjoyment then that comes down to you. I mean I get being frustrated but I don't think it's as serious as saying "one tricks ruin the game" or anything like that. If you get a loss because of the one trick, it is what it is and they have the avoid teammate option for a reason. It's always better to think about what you could have done to sway the game or how you could have adapted to the team rather than focusing on what your teammate did wrong or should or shouldn't have done, whether or not they are a one trick. If you already have a vendetta against one tricks then it makes sense that one tricks would affect your ability to enjoy the game, because it comes down to a mental mindset at that point.

    • @THE_MOONMAN
      @THE_MOONMAN Рік тому +2

      K but one tricks should have a back up for when they're being hard countered. Like I've had so many teammates play junk into pharaoh and just keep running it like expecting to diff them that hard I guess? Idk it's retarded. If your a junk main and enemy plays pharaoh than fucking switch lol

    • @sachaweon3586
      @sachaweon3586 Рік тому +1

      @@THE_MOONMAN Well, you can't control whether or not the one trick has a second hero they are good at, so again, the only solution is to look at your own gameplay and see what you can do to sway the game or support the one trick you are worried about.

    • @peachylove17
      @peachylove17 Рік тому +1

      @@THE_MOONMAN One tricking IS bad, but ultimately you can't do anything about it. Unless Blizzard decides to somehow ban one-tricking, one-tricks will always exist. Yes it's unfortunate, but it is what it is. And you can't control what other people play unless Blizzard does something that disallows one-tricking, however that may happen. Perhaps try contacting Blizzard and let them know your opinion on it. Or try to start a petition idk

  • @Villinity
    @Villinity Рік тому +34

    I see a lot of mercy’s on autopilot mode. Higher ranked mercy’s are aware of each of their teammates positions and health at all times. In which a lot of row ranked mercies are tunnel visioning.

    • @almsivi
      @almsivi Рік тому +5

      (Late to reply, but!) This. So much this, so much this, so much this. When someone autolocks Mercy from me, and I have to watch it, it's painful almost. You're so right.

  • @KlexisBlaze
    @KlexisBlaze Рік тому +143

    Why do the mercy models in game look so tired and done with life at times 😂😭

    • @the_maddilorian
      @the_maddilorian Рік тому +32

      “sometimes i wonder why i even bother”

    • @mental938
      @mental938 Рік тому +8

      We are.

    • @chloe_limelight7653
      @chloe_limelight7653 Рік тому +17

      because we’re tired of our teammates rushing in and dying & then screaming at us for not healing them 😭

    • @WitchyyChick
      @WitchyyChick Рік тому +3

      For the same reason parents look tired and done with life. Support is basically babysitting.

  • @mcpartydogj7025
    @mcpartydogj7025 Рік тому +43

    I love the no hesitation on the devs question lmao

    • @Direblazez
      @Direblazez Рік тому +5

      Everyone dog piles into disagree instantly

  • @subliminion
    @subliminion Рік тому +81

    as a mercy player myself i loved hearing what other mercy players think like !

  • @XxfelipemaxxX
    @XxfelipemaxxX Рік тому +92

    An episode with Ball mains would be SUPER cool tbh.

    • @froxygaming120
      @froxygaming120 Рік тому +6

      I was thinking this too🤣🤣 cuz myself is ball main and one trick

  • @rikkunaify
    @rikkunaify Рік тому +12

    11:01 lol the nodding in agreement 😅

    • @AbbyLynette
      @AbbyLynette Рік тому +1

      With the gun pointing at the other mercy’s head 😂

  • @vanessam4529
    @vanessam4529 Рік тому +62

    I loved all these diff takes, what angelwitch said at 7:30 as a woman is exactly why I strictly solo queue as support even if I don’t think im going to play mercy just due to me not wanting to deal with hearing dudes say that shit to me lol
    edit: I write “as a woman” based on my own personal experiences of being stereotyped as “no skill” or being boosted bc of my gender in particular - oo man I hope this made sense

    • @valkyrie_592
      @valkyrie_592 Рік тому

      It's always the men saying shit but then it turns out men are worse than woman most of the times

    • @missmvchi
      @missmvchi Рік тому +1

      I agree!

    • @vanessam4529
      @vanessam4529 Рік тому

      @@missmvchi glad I'm not alone :)

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ Рік тому +1

      i solo queue, not bc i dont really have people to duo with, but just bc they dont have the time. and, i hope i do climb since i dont think its my teammates faults for losing, at least not entirely. so i hope i get out of silver :(
      i remember ranking up from silver to gold within a week. almost hit plat, well, i was gold 2 but i climbed rly consistently. then when season 4 came, i lost a billion games in a row, and got demoted to silver

    • @19rena
      @19rena Рік тому

      But what happens when you solo queue and pick mercy but your dps pick flipping tracer sombra? Thats why i'll stick to playing with a duo..

  • @bewitchingsingularity
    @bewitchingsingularity Рік тому +5

    This was honestly really insightful to watch. I felt included in terms of my views of the topics and the given answers.

  • @N1veon
    @N1veon Рік тому +3

    All the mercies nodding in the background during balancing LMAO

  • @cameronrice5109
    @cameronrice5109 Рік тому +29

    This just became my FAVORITE OW channel! I would love to be a part of one of these for Brigitte because GIRL do I have some thoughts

  • @kitenlovar699
    @kitenlovar699 Рік тому +1

    i haven't played in months at 10:33 i finally realize why i was about to absolutely drop playing mercy. i never checked the patch notes. at times where i would've got out of my situation and not died my GA felt like it took twice as long... they obviously need to have people who actually play the game to guide them on the changes to make. it's clear they don't even understand their own game.

  • @THE_MOONMAN
    @THE_MOONMAN Рік тому +16

    I love the other mercies nodding in the background while skiesti talks during the devs balancing mercy question 😂
    Straight up mercy mob. I feel like if anyone brought up that the cooldown thing was still a net nerf than they woulda swapped the caduceus' for torches and pitchforks 😅

  • @bayliethomas2312
    @bayliethomas2312 Рік тому +5

    the girlies nodding in the background, so cute

  • @psyjinx
    @psyjinx Рік тому +12

    I've been learning tracer just to make sure my random dps gets the mercy pocket. I know I can hit my shots, so I'd rather that damage boost be on someone worse to bring the average value of my team up. Seems to be working too, which is cool.

  • @ncascini01
    @ncascini01 Рік тому +43

    Great episode! So many good perspectives and even good points from each side of opposing viewpoints!

  • @wolfy7968
    @wolfy7968 Рік тому +31

    lmao i'd love the see a dva one, id be so down to try that

  • @DynesiusGaming
    @DynesiusGaming Рік тому +3

    I love the fact that all Mercy players remember and condemn the Aria Rose Era LOL.

  • @iwunderful3117
    @iwunderful3117 Рік тому +11

    Doing one with all 3 genji mains would be fun, see what they think about genji’s state and whatnot

  • @PurpleMoon799
    @PurpleMoon799 Рік тому +10

    i was sure there was going to be a question about pink mercy LOL but that would've made the episode 2 hours long 😂😂

  • @cintiahexgrill
    @cintiahexgrill Рік тому +2

    As a Mercy main since OW 1 launch, I I’ve been through all her reworks, they are trying to balance her for like forever, they had improvements but she’s still kinda OP in the hands of a main. I really appreciate that they changed her ultimate, it is way better now, Mercy is very much present in the fights which is way more fun, usually with the old ress ult we’d play reeeeeally safe, like hiding and waiting for more people to die so we could have a nicer use of the ult, also, Valkyrie + Super jump, before we had to cheat the super jump, now we have a much easier way to use the skill.

  • @DatMageDoe
    @DatMageDoe Рік тому +22

    Hot take (for Damage players): You win more fights through good positioning or cooldown usage than raw mechanical skill.

  • @jaylonburchfield6730
    @jaylonburchfield6730 Рік тому +33

    “I coach this game” Is in Plat 3 😂😂😂😂

    • @edb5949
      @edb5949 Рік тому +3

      WTF can u coach when ur plat? Invisible sub bronze brackets?

    • @jerrywhat4799
      @jerrywhat4799 Рік тому +3

      You can coach and no longer focus on the grind. There peak may be higher then that. I coach, I was consistently top 500 on all 3 roles for a while. Now I don't touch ranked but I coach.

    • @Art1fact.
      @Art1fact. Рік тому +3

      If you can only coach worse players, then who would coach the pros ?

    • @Benjamin11-y9h
      @Benjamin11-y9h Рік тому +1

      @@Art1fact. Not plats atleast, those coaches probably have A+ gamesense but lacking mechanical skill which would land you in masters atleast

    • @Nadia-cq4tl
      @Nadia-cq4tl Рік тому +4

      Especially since the rank systems busted they were probably bronze or silver in ow1 🤣

  • @sno7599
    @sno7599 Рік тому +19

    2 mercy's in one game is scary you somehow got 10 together. holy shit. hwo are you still alive?!

  • @rex9412
    @rex9412 Рік тому +35

    I would love for people to have given their definition of one trick. Mainly because OW has the term of specialist which is different to one trick. one trick is you play over 90% of your games or something like that. specialist is basically it's what you play at every opportunity but you are able to play other things. so for me I am a zen specialist as I play him basically in all my games of support but when we don't need more damage and need more healing of someone to kill a pharah I play bap or we need a Lucio I'll play him but I stick to zen at ever opportunity. specialist are good for the game but one tricks can be bad. 90% of the time they are cause they will play that hero regardless of how many counter picks are being played, reducing the changes of winning even if they only play that hero playing something similar or very very simple is probs better.

    • @Jessespresso
      @Jessespresso Рік тому +5

      I'm a Hanzo OTP. I will switch if I'm clearly being out played. But 9/10 I can make Hanzo work well because I've had so much practice with playing him against my counters before and have learned how to play around them and still help my team.
      The very few times I do switch will be if they have a Pharmercy duo dominating the game and my second DPS can't handle it. My hitscan aim is actually much better than projectile overall after the years of playing Hanzo. I just don't find it as fun to play since it's easier for me

    • @xshock__
      @xshock__ Рік тому

      one trick is definitely fine lol i've seen people switch their comfort characters and sucking ass

    • @THE_MOONMAN
      @THE_MOONMAN Рік тому +7

      ​@@Jessespressohanzos not a great example. One of the most flexible characters in the game. Very few engagements where's he's not favourable. He's always at least viable. There's maybe like specific points he's not good for if you're talking high level play, but honestly hanzo is one of the best heroes to one trick

  • @MungMungGaming
    @MungMungGaming Рік тому +4

    Would have been hilarious to hear a mercy main start talking like a grown man with a thick country accent.

  • @Nadia-cq4tl
    @Nadia-cq4tl Рік тому +6

    “Aim doesn’t matter that much.” I would agree with bc the question states “that much” which means u need decent aim and it does matter to a certain degree but u don’t really need to have amazing aim to be a high rank player in overwatch there’s a lot more things that go into consideration: team synergy team comp knowing who to switch to when counter picking coordinating knowing how to decently play multiple characters etc. this changes for each role ofc. For support u don’t need good aim at all bc none of them require u to aim at all besides Ana and a little bit with Lucio and bap. Tank doesnt require u to aim that much either considering they are all close range hero’s and ofc there’s like 1-2 heros in each class that are exceptions. In dps the characters require only decent aim to be played effectively even with widow since you’ll be mainly pressuring them and it doesn’t take good aim to play her just decent aim.the fact that none of them went to agree besides one really shows the iq of the average mercy main I mainly mean this towards the higher rank ones.

    • @saiintFPS
      @saiintFPS Рік тому +5

      I actually think it's the other way round. From my experience accuracy gets more important the higher you go. One of the biggest differences between a masters and gm kiriko/bap/zen/ana is their accuracy

    • @lyzder7298
      @lyzder7298 Рік тому +1

      The aim argument depends mostly on the character a player likes to play. With the right characters you can very well get high elo without spectacular aim.
      My favorite example of this is Fitzy: he's been known as a Sombra main for his entire Twitch career and he was known for having a subpar aim but AMAZING game sense and shotcalling skills, which synergises perfectly with OW1 Sombra, so much he got to t500 before really focusing on his aim

  • @axchiie8802
    @axchiie8802 Рік тому +2

    An overthink episode for Sombra mains would be so interesting. I feel like they're so over abused

  • @Eternaltus
    @Eternaltus Рік тому +5

    5 kirko mains and 1 mercy main odd man out

  • @ordinarykiwi8553
    @ordinarykiwi8553 Рік тому +2

    Slightly off topic but I wanted to put in a comment for the "boosted" segment 7:17 as a support as a whole, based on my personal experiences.
    I have hard fought to get out of bronze, I am now a silver player (almost broke through to gold) usually duoing with a tank or a DPS. As a support in general, it is very hard to climb alone and if you try and climb with the wrong people you are S.O.L. unless you're WAY above the skill level of the rank you are in. Which for most people who are climbing is not the case.
    I went on a 5 game win streak pumping out exceptional DPS, CC, and Heals, using my ult to the best of my ability as Ana or Bap to keep my team alive or bail them out, peeled for DPS ect (support things) and DE-RANKED in OW2 the other day from S1 all the way to S4 in one foul swoop due to a few game loss streak (3) i had the previous day. It's extremely demoralizing and we do sometimes resort to getting a competent DPS or Tank to duo with because we're so sick and tired of putting in our all, owning up to our own mistakes, gaslighting ourselves into "I could have done more" when really we couldn't have based on what our team was up to.
    I feel like there is a difference between "Boosting" and "duoing" since if you're duoing with someone, and you work well together and climb together and you're also improving - were you really boosted? Or did you grow alongside them and learn? I feel 'boosting' is specific to someone who is TRASH being hard carried, not learning, being sloppy, and relying on their alt-accounting friend to drag them up. I don't feel that mercy mains or supports are boosted, unless their literally doing nothing and being absolute garbage playing with their grandmaster friend trying to get out of bronze just to say they aren't bronze.

    • @migueljuarez6788
      @migueljuarez6788 Рік тому +2

      I'm a Master 2 support. Support isn't hard to climb alone. It depends on the person. Support by far has the most broken abilities in the game. So much so that the Devs acknowledged that supports were "overtuned" meaning overbuffed. Support isn't hard to rank up. You've got Sleep dart, anti nade, nano boost, Zen's discord, transcendence, Lucio ult, speed boost, Suzu, Kitsune Rush, immortality field, regen boost, Bap's dmg and small hitboxes. Support isn't hard to rank up.

  • @gamarleton
    @gamarleton Рік тому +2

    Everyone who plays overwatch has met toxic people in all roles and on all characters. Most mercy players are chill, but there are some that have literally ignored me in game and then when I asked what happened why they didn't wanna heal me they told me "i just don't like genji" or whatever bad excuse to give me a hard time for their personal opinion on my heropick.
    Sure, overwatch is that kind of game that makes a lot of people toxic at some point but some people go above and beyond on that.
    A lot of these role based questions like difficulty are strange, difficulty is based on what hero you play. Some of the hardest heroes to play are just dps.
    It more depends on the hero, which is a pick depending on what kind of gameplay you enjoy.

    • @kahssie
      @kahssie Рік тому

      this, for difficulty. i find that different people have varying strengths so they pick certain heros up faster than others. I have friends who have played FPS for very long, with great tracking and movement, so they dont get lost when picking up genji. I could never, but it took less than an hour for them to get a hang of everything and told me "genji is... surprisingly easy?". Ditto for widow, on anyone who sniped in other games.
      Then they got stuck as mercy and think its easy to healbot until they match against decent enemies with good aim/pockets and suddenly its dead by daylight, 5 deaths in a row, or have minimal impact unless youre moving like an unhinged child. Stuff you dont think of like using allies on the ground to reach your highground when you cant see the highground ally, etc, doesn't come naturally to them, because they are used to self-sufficient gameplay. On the other hand, mercy came easily to me because i have better game sense from MOBA games, and its easier for me to be tracking all 10 players at once to optimise what to do when, than trying to land sick shots, because i didnt come from a strong fps background.

  • @Coldpanini
    @Coldpanini Рік тому +7

    I need a junkrat main one NOW!

  • @digitalpapercut3908
    @digitalpapercut3908 Рік тому +12

    The Aria Rose comment had me jump because that was an era that you just had to be there to witness lmaoooo. I wonder what’s she’s up to now?

    • @ChristalRaine
      @ChristalRaine  Рік тому +8

      RIGHT?! I haven’t heard of her in YEARSSSS but then suddenly she’s been brought up TWICE in my OverThink episodes and it catches me so off guard lmaoooo

    • @koto2211
      @koto2211 Рік тому

      Got MASSIVE whiplash from that comment 2018-2019 Mercy community was WILD

    • @SeraWasStolen
      @SeraWasStolen Рік тому +4

      she did nsfw content for a little while, which is notable bc she had a video basically shaming girls who did that 👀 like power to u girlie but the hypocrisy?

    • @peachdrinkk
      @peachdrinkk Рік тому +1

      what was the drama even? i never scroll through ow twitter

    • @digitalpapercut3908
      @digitalpapercut3908 Рік тому

      @@SeraWasStolen lol I remember her doing that. I was like “but you-… ok more power to you girlie lol”

  • @RoboIsHim
    @RoboIsHim Рік тому +6

    I'm so sad I didn't see the question is mercy the easiest hero in the game

  • @fairyfloss.cosplay
    @fairyfloss.cosplay Рік тому +5

    As a long time mercy main this was absolutely so entertaining and interesting! I genuinely hope people at Blizzard see these videos because it's such a calm and humane way of explaining the players thoughts and opinions to the devs instead of all the salty comments on other social media platforms.

  • @wolf7292
    @wolf7292 29 днів тому

    3:17 same buddy same, in my gm top 500 lobbies if i see a 1 trick mercy/moira which is usually what they only play the games over, 99% of the time🙂🙂🙂

  • @lovalette
    @lovalette Рік тому

    that is so cute how they nod when they agree w each other

  • @Александр-к3р4н
    @Александр-к3р4н Рік тому +2

    “I trust the devs know how to balance Mercy properly” - I honestly think that devs don’t know how to balance anything in the game, starting from designing maps and ending with balance patches

  • @Bighoodiekid
    @Bighoodiekid Рік тому +3

    A Mercy conference meeting? definitely a w video

  • @ArchieCarnall
    @ArchieCarnall Рік тому +4

    This is really creative OW content, well done!

  • @ZanniD
    @ZanniD Рік тому

    The dead look in mercy's model makes all of this so much more hilarious

  • @Justjinxx
    @Justjinxx Рік тому

    I’m loving this segment it’s so different and inclusive keep this up! 💘

  • @s_sanny
    @s_sanny Рік тому

    1:57 she speaking facts when i started the game i played dps because i usually play fps then i slowly moved to support now im a mercy main

  • @NIKEONXX
    @NIKEONXX Рік тому +2

    One tricks at lower roles are a problem because you are locking yourself from understand the game in it's entirety. But usually One tricks at higher ranks have played all the heroes and understand them in a game and usually they are prepared to get value no matter what are the heroes picked.

  • @shy8o
    @shy8o Рік тому

    that’s why i moira main. literally a beast and if it’s not working for the team and myself i’ll change it up to someone like kiriko or brig

  • @datsuspicious
    @datsuspicious Рік тому +5

    I kinda wanna see a Symm mains debate xD

  • @thisasian2746
    @thisasian2746 Рік тому +4

    Its very rare to see a mercy who knows whats going on. A lot of mercys are oblivious and have little to no gamesense due to being boosted outside of their true rank. In addition, one trick mercys who do not understand how to play other supports are also an issue because at the end of the day, sometimes your team needs the utility of other supports more than the dmg boost if your dps do not have the room to pop off.

  • @catleaf
    @catleaf Рік тому

    this is such an awesome video idea! thanks for making this video i love it

  • @calie_o
    @calie_o Рік тому +1

    the graphics did mercy dirty with the facial expression XD

  • @shanaeverowe9626
    @shanaeverowe9626 Рік тому

    I think blizzard made one tricking more prevalent with how mmr/ranked takes into account your value as a hero in a match. People who one tricked saw better gains than people who flexed. When your not getting rewarded for doing the "right thing" it devalues the effort required to do so.
    Also by making the main game role lock, they took away the flexibility of the game to make it more ridgid. Some people have a role they play more than on character (like I play 6-8 DPS, but only 2 or 3 tanks and support). So if your pick is either not working or your being hard countered or it just doesn't work with the map/other players on the team you kinda feel stuck in a losing match.

  • @gabrielpacheco996
    @gabrielpacheco996 Рік тому +4

    Mom mom im on tv! (Im the sugarplum fairy)

  • @ovyle
    @ovyle Рік тому +8

    What do people have against Hammond 💀
    As a ball main i am very sad. The continuous disrespect we get is crazy.

    • @PurpleMoon799
      @PurpleMoon799 Рік тому +5

      lol i have a lot of respect for ball mains you chose the hardest hero to play and if you're doing well on him??? mwah

    • @Katekyo504
      @Katekyo504 Рік тому +1

      Those people don't have awareness or game sense. Ball is an individualistic tank that does a lot with very little support.
      I play him when my supports are literally the worst combo in the game like Mercy/Lucio/Life Weaver . Just so little healing that playing any other tank that is meant to damage sponge is a poor choice. And those types who don't recognize the poor team comp just blame the tank because they can't see the bigger picture.

  • @rex9412
    @rex9412 Рік тому +2

    for the mercy players thought on my idea of a reword of her staff? so the goal is to increase the reward for using her resources correctly while still keeping her easy to pocket with but at a reduced effectiveness.
    ok so the actual changes are staff healing reduced to 45 per second. when healing an ally for the first time mercy healing is increased to 60 per second for 2 seconds (5 second cooldowns per ally). while in her ult it's always 60.
    now for the damage boost changes idea. damage boost is now a meter broken up into 4 sections that mercy earns (like an ult) by healing. would be like 1k healing for the whole bar. the damage boost will use 1 section of the bar when used giving you 1 second of damage boost. so 4 in total. and I would reduce Guardian Angle's cooldowns by 0.5 but idk if that needed. the whole is to make mercy rewarded for not sticking to 1 target and using her mobility to zip around healing whoever is in the most need of it. the damage boost changes are basically just I gave her the kritzkrieg Uber but not as powerful. now I would love to also rework the sounds and animation for the damage boost to add to that satisfaction of using it like how it feels to play medic in TF2. the numbers are not like I want them to be this I just want to get the idea access while not making her op.
    if I would go all out in the fun I would make the damage boost a 50% but it's 2k to get the full bar for 4 seconds. and the healing is 35 base and 70 with the ramp and it only being for 1 second. but I don't want it to be extreme and just a first change to see if the idea lands like the dev might actually do.
    so yeah let me know if this sucks or is really cool and what you think would make it better.

    • @gabrielpacheco996
      @gabrielpacheco996 Рік тому +1

      Hiya gabe here one of the mercys from the vid, tbh the idea is good its very creative but I think that would make mercy very stressful to play for casual players and new players. So if I read it right you need to heal quite a bit to only damage boost for 4 seconds? I mean I understand the idea of her damage boost being op but doing it like that it would be very hard to get and not really useful imo I think maybe just lower the % she boosts or make the damage boost ramp up as she goes so say like it starts at 5% damage boost and can go up to 25% the longer she boosts someone then make it reset after she takes it off. With her healing I feel like making it 60 the first time she heals someone would lose its purpose after the start of the game it would make you not want to heal anyone till last minute. With guardian angel as mercy that would be so fun lmao but taking it from an enemy prospective she would get away too easily. I really do like the idea but think of it from the team and enemy team as well

    • @rex9412
      @rex9412 Рік тому +2

      @@gabrielpacheco996 I like your Idea for the damage boost. how i'd imagine mine to work is you only need 25% of each it to use it like it gets used 1 part at a time so you can think of it as 4 bars basically so it's 1 second 4 times and 250 healing isn't hard to get. i would also buff the damage boost like i said at the end i would do something more extreme with the stats like increasing the damage boost to 50% and increase the healing needed to 2k but thats probs to much so like 1.5k or less. to make it a mini ult. the numbers are just fillers. I am not a dev so i don't have as good of an idea as to what would be balanced. anyways the goal was to make her more exiting so thats why it's only a 45 healing per second for the base not like 35 like i said at the end cause that would make it so you had to be always switching rather then it's a bonus. also 60 i just used cause 67 is what her healing below half hp was and that felt like it was painfully hard to kill someone but cause it's only for a few seconds it probs should be higher like 70. but not a dev or a mercy main i just play her to zip around for fun sometimes. or if bap is taken and we need better healing then zen if i am playing ranked.

  • @Dred-Rivals
    @Dred-Rivals Рік тому

    3:43 you can’t take genji from me if I always insta lock. From a game sense standard, I feel like dps are the easiest, but from mechanics, dps are the hardest imo. Like tanks and supports don’t need to be as precise when aiming. Like look at any of the tanks, and you can see that you don’t really need to hit a single headshot on any of them to get value. Unless I’m forgetting about one. Doomfist and ball are kinda the exceptions cuz they just play kinda different. Supports other than Ana don’t have to aim very precisely to hit teammates for heals, and they typically don’t have as much mechanical skill needed. Like for mercy, once you get the movement techs down, the rest of your gameplay is purely based on gamesense.

  • @androsfart
    @androsfart Рік тому +8

    Im curious as to who the toxic top 500 mercy main from the oceanic server is? :0

    • @seoktheseballs
      @seoktheseballs Рік тому +3

      literally scrolling thru the comment section to see if anyone's commented about it lol

  • @gamespryte
    @gamespryte Рік тому +6

    I hate the fact with the OCE Server High rank Mercy Main streamer. I thought of like 4 that’s toxic af. Plus one who is like diamond/plat.
    Who do you think it is they are talking about?

  • @snowfloofcathug
    @snowfloofcathug Рік тому

    Out of all the shooters I’ve played, Overwatch is the one with the least emphasis on aiming, at least that I can think of. It’s an FPS, it’ll always matter, but you can be good/get a lot of worth out of several characters without having good aim

  • @Itsdylanagain
    @Itsdylanagain Рік тому +3

    you should do a symmetra mains video. As a sym main i wanna hear what they have to say

  • @DeathOfAnExecutionerr
    @DeathOfAnExecutionerr Рік тому

    When people start out its definitely a mixed bag with what they think is easier to play.. for example my sister said to me that DPS was easier so I should start out with that but actually I found support was easier to play for me personally!!
    ( I also just preferred support over any other role since I was very attached to playing Lucio when I started out xD ofc I gradually transitioned over to mercy but Lucio still lives inside my heart )

  • @Squip_
    @Squip_ Рік тому +4

    I hope the devs do watch

  • @Lazyy97
    @Lazyy97 Рік тому

    blue beam queens saying "aim is important" like their hero doesn't have a jupiter-sized hitbox on their projectile

  • @crustycannonball2945
    @crustycannonball2945 Рік тому +7

    Not sure what it is but around 3:10 there is a really loud noise just heads up

    • @ChristalRaine
      @ChristalRaine  Рік тому +4

      Yeah I’m not sure what happened here, it wasn’t an issue when rendering. I’m really sorry about that :(

  • @sadpotato9769
    @sadpotato9769 Рік тому

    They were like oops we forgor when they fixed the regen in ult
    Thats when i lost all faith in in their balance

  • @manh-haimuller6027
    @manh-haimuller6027 Рік тому

    1:45 interesting topic! But I also think DPS is easiest when you start as a total noob but in competitive scene every role is hard! No role is easy then.
    Though I think that Support is the most broken 🤣 too much DMG!
    3:41 One-Tricks force a certain Playstyle that the hero does. You can adapt so that it’s not so horrible but in the core One-Tricks lack options/variety it’s a fact. Oc they can still win but the WHOLE team has to work more when a One-Trick is in their team. It’s a fact that some modes require a different hero! It provides more advantages and it‘s easier to work towards the objective for every different mode!
    You can’t deny that it’s just the truth!

  • @lovecatcore
    @lovecatcore Рік тому +1

    i think an reinhardt, sombra or mei overthink would be interesting!

  • @Flowersweep
    @Flowersweep Рік тому

    The one trick thing pissed me off just cause this game is practically base on that. It’s like they made characters for countering such as Ana against roadhog-Mei against dva like come on you need to learn what to play and not to play in moments in order to win in competitive. If it quick play fine but you should be diverse with your skills and characters

  • @RawBaconEnjoyer
    @RawBaconEnjoyer Рік тому +7

    To bluebird on one tricks I have one word to say: Chazm.

  • @rinslergj1
    @rinslergj1 Рік тому

    It really depends on who you one trick I feel. If you one trick a reaper and you have no one that can dive with you it's a bad pick. If you one trick zen but you have a kiriko or Moira your tank is gonna have a hard time. But if I have a widow with hundreds of hours on my team I'm gonna be confident in what they do. Some heroes have to have somewhat of a team comp in order to be used efficiently yet others can work without playing around the team

  • @tigerfalco
    @tigerfalco Рік тому +5

    If you ever do a "Do Genji players all think the same" please let me be in it. I joined your discord, I go by Tiger there as well. Id honestly love to share my opinions and hear others.

  • @harleendoesstuff
    @harleendoesstuff Рік тому +2

    Love this series so much! Such a cool way to see different opinions on stuff. Would be cool to see one for LGBTQIA+ folks specific and how we feel in the game!

    • @allinix7
      @allinix7 Рік тому +2

      What ? We don't care... (and I'm from Lgbt+ community)

  • @saiintFPS
    @saiintFPS Рік тому +1

    RE getting one tricks on your team I think people deep it way too much. Both teams are as likely to be affected by a one trick that doesn't suit their comp so it has 0 affect on your OW experience beyond that one game. If the outcome of a single match where the only thing on the line is a made up rank is making you that mad there's other issues going on. Beyond like Genji one tricks playing into 4 beams it's so rare for that to be the only reason you lose a game anyways. The vast majority of heroes can play into their counters if they are played well, you don't have to swap off Pharah just because they go 2 hitscan, you don't need to swap off doom if they have orisa sombra etc

  • @lillrice27
    @lillrice27 Рік тому +1

    The devs balance team is just so weird I don’t understand their intention half the time, for example why in the fuck did they buff JQ so much when she was already a decent tank before her? Now she’s the only tank in 90% of the games both qp and comp, I used to be a JQ main for tank but now everyone uses her and idk ig it just gets boring atp

  • @YuriLix
    @YuriLix Рік тому +1

    3:05 what happened to the bangs on that mercy skin? x'D

  • @noelia4869
    @noelia4869 Рік тому +3

    being OTP is embarrasing

  • @xIcy
    @xIcy Рік тому +2

    Mercy is terrible for the game and needs a complete rework holding a button shouldn’t be rewarded

    • @xIcy
      @xIcy Рік тому +2

      @joychu blud 💀really thought he cooked with this

  • @richardstone4515
    @richardstone4515 Рік тому +1

    I would love to see mercy main swaps role with their duo dps. Who would play better.

  • @vivt.9619
    @vivt.9619 Рік тому +16

    hot take but a lot of people who complain about mercys being "dramatic" and "annoying" stems from misogyny because most mercy players are women and sometimes gay men. like when someone mentioned that you can say something calmly/do something calmly, but someone else would absolutely blow it out of proportion and act like you're being dramatic, women go thru that every day, it's just misogyny with a little filter over it

    • @wisteria4113
      @wisteria4113 Рік тому +13

      Lmao uh, dont rly think so. And im no male and i dont think im a misogynis or smt.. Every hero has toxic players i'm sure of that, but at least in my experience it's always the mercys being snarky or plain toxic, but mostly not like a toxic doom is or a toxic soldier, but more like uh.. mean girls toxic. If that's any indicative that they are being played by lgbti or females that's kinda irrelevant, but i've seen so many, it's pretty embarrassing 💀

    • @migueljuarez6788
      @migueljuarez6788 Рік тому

      That's just not true. Look, Genji mains keep getting their hero nerfed for no reason. Doom mains got their main reworked, lost an ability, Devs took 85% the original OW2 doom tech in the beta for some reason, and Doom was the worst tank for the first couple months of OW2. And yet Mercy mains somehow cried more these last couple months than Genji and Doom mains did.

    • @kahssie
      @kahssie Рік тому

      @@migueljuarez6788 i would say that its a mix of issues that makes it look that way.
      1. the playerbase size for mercy far outsizes any other heros. That means more people in general, and so more particularly loud/toxic people will become overrepresented, even though the same % of playerbase is normal.
      2. Mercy's been reworked once every season, and her core mechanics keep getting changed to where muscle memory has to keep getting relearnt which is really painful for players. Doom, etc often have their scalings changed instead or if there are CD changes, its a buff, so the playstyle is still fairly consistent, and changes that occur do so over a longer period.
      3. There are high ranked mercy mains who help to concisely and reasonably recommend potential changes/reworks to straighten out the broken part of her kit (namely damage boosting issue), but the devs are like... purposefully ignoring that? And going the opposite direction.
      4. I see a LOT of people complaining about mercy as a character as well, not as a mercy main but as people playing against her (dps mains, etc), talking about how shes impossible to kill when her whole kit revolves around survivability to be useful, and shes easily punished. This is causing the devs to tinker with parts of her kit that shouldnt be changed as her identity, instead of parts that have historically been a problem, which in turn makes the mercy mains even more upset that theyre not being heard.
      It's sadly a super vicious cycle, where non-mercy players think her playerbase is toxic, while simultaneously arguing for her to basically be a non-viable vegetable, the devs are unfortunately leaning that way, and the mercy players get more and more frustrated as simple fixes have now become blown way out of proportion and more problematic than it was.
      Meanwhile, bap mains seeing him get microbuffed consistently: 🔇

  • @kiribakubabe5425
    @kiribakubabe5425 Рік тому

    Gosh the one about toxic mercy’s-that but make it kiriko. I main kiriko-I climbed into masters with her, and I got trashed by a plat 3 kiriko (in the second round I autolocked her and they were mad jealous about it) who was scared to use Suzu or didn’t use it when they should have and they told me I was wasting it 💀 like I’m not the best by any means but my stats as her went from 0 to 20 real fast where they had no stats, so to have them say “stop wasting Suzu” from a person who didn’t use Suzu at all??? Especially during enemy ults 😭 it was wack.

  • @randomsheep1165
    @randomsheep1165 Рік тому +1

    Ooooh what a cool series♡

  • @BigChungus37_
    @BigChungus37_ Рік тому

    You should have had bogur in the middle of all the mercy mains as Winton lol

  • @hellojellocello9208
    @hellojellocello9208 Рік тому

    i love this style of vid

  • @jadeg7529
    @jadeg7529 Рік тому +1

    "Lucio doesn't always need to land shots to get value" is a very weird take

  • @johnnybernard
    @johnnybernard Рік тому +2

    It would be cool if we could get an overthink with zenyatta mains. Otherwise, I'm really enjoying the series

  • @SlipstreamXD
    @SlipstreamXD Рік тому

    i was waiting for the question: “is dragoon the worst mercy skin”

  • @ytttttt411
    @ytttttt411 Рік тому

    I don't know if my opinion will matter that much since im a brand new overwatch player and started playing since overwatch 2 season 1 but i have reached diamond after 4 or 5 months of on and off playing.
    Season 1 i was plat 5, Season 2 i was almost diamond but didn't play long and at start of S3 i reached diamond after 20 or so games.
    One thing i noticed with this game is that as soon as you want to play duo, the MMR gets absolutely destroyed and at that point its better to play alone so in Overwatch 2 i wouldn't say that some Mercy mains are boosted just bc of that reason. I have reached Diamond playing Mercy and only Mercy but i found myself being almost unable to play due to MMR difference when wanting to duo q but i see it actually working out maybe sometime later..
    About onetricking i think that its actually bad for the game because most people like to play a certain character and arguing about it is just not gonna work and its simply better to know how to play almost every character in your role. For an example if someone picks Mercy i would pick Ana or Baptiste but if i see that they are playing Mercy badly, i might ask them to switch, it depends. If i pick Mercy and someone asks me to switch i kinda wouldn't do that because i know what im capable of. But i would give them a chance as well.
    About toxicity im not really a toxic player, im extremely patient but i do agree that a lot of Mercy players are toxic and sometimes just refuse to listen to others' opinions. There are of course logical Mercy mains who are very kind and nice. But isn't this kinda the same thing with EVERY single character?
    Now the funny one. Devs truly do NOT know how to balance Mercy and i realized that after the first change (adding more ammo) i truly believe that Season 1 Mercy was actually the best because her true and only survival potential is how good you are with her movement, removing that just truly felt awful and disgusting but i THINK that they should have made her hitbox larger in Valk because as also a DPS player, i noticed its very scuffed once Mercy is in Valk. The highlight of Overwatch devs was the Triage phase. They completely ignored her damage boost issues or ress complaints and added their own idea which wasn't that bad but it just doesn't fit Mercy absolutely at all. No kit synchronization whatsoever. They should actually pay attention to how Mercy games are going and what could potentially be better for the both party with some feedback of high ranking Mercy players.
    Sadly i actually kinda quit overwatch already midway season 3 so idk whats happening now but i just thought it would also be a good idea to give some input as a brand new player as well. Im happy to see the Mercy community of all ranks and stages coming together as a whole to discuss the main issues of the game overall, thank you for making such an impactful and important video! And the series.

  • @BONERCRUSHER
    @BONERCRUSHER Рік тому +1

    So sad i didnt get to participate in this one!! I cant wait for next time!!!

  • @angelherrera6634
    @angelherrera6634 Рік тому +2

    As a Moira main, I need to be on this

    • @TayKVEVO
      @TayKVEVO Рік тому

      As a moira main you dont need anything but to learn ana bro

    • @meowmraow
      @meowmraow Рік тому

      ​@@TayKVEVO funny how miora always carries

  • @max-playlist
    @max-playlist Рік тому

    for the boosting question- imo its more of a matter of what we see like, many mercy's get to their rank normally or by basic queuing with a friend not meaning to be boosted, just playin for fun right? but i feel like we think theres much more boosted players bc the ones who do get boosted are put on blast on stuff like tiktok, yt, twitter ect. we think theres more boosted players then there actually is bc we're seeing much more on other platforms since mercy's who get to their rank naturally either arent uplifted as much or get sent hate for playing her 😭😭

  • @xOneManCRWx
    @xOneManCRWx Рік тому

    I might just be one of the only gamers who actually enjoys cooking.

  • @christopherdelacruz9728
    @christopherdelacruz9728 Рік тому +1

    Do one on ana mains.
    Probably the most versatile hero in the entire game

  • @zhy5641
    @zhy5641 Рік тому +1

    3:17 Damn, I’ll just uninstall the game then...

  • @Devil_of_Wrath
    @Devil_of_Wrath Рік тому

    The one with the toxic mercy votes had my crying 🥹🤣🤣

  • @j_m12341
    @j_m12341 Рік тому

    I love that these werent just grand master and top 500 players!

  • @Acornypun
    @Acornypun Рік тому +3

    All OCE players know each other. Its like hell on steroids and youre fighting for your life every game. Or you have 1 guy totally wasted on your team.
    But we dont claim most of the OCE streamers, they barely play in our region anyway.

    • @mysteryxmistry9676
      @mysteryxmistry9676 Рік тому +1

      Why would they stream in our region, it's boring here 😂 no good content in OCE. Also hey Acorn 😅