Is this one of the most difficult oil pans to replace? Probably…but I’ve got a trick! (9630)
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2022
- Working on a John Deere 9630 that has a cracked oil pan. The options are either pull the engine out or figure out a way to sneak the oil pan out.
Sloan’s apprenticeship program: www.sloans.com/apprentice-pro...
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The apprenticeship sounds like a great opportunity for someone interested in Ag machinery. I wish I was 30 years younger, I’d be signing up tomorrow.
It is a wonderful opportunity. There are people in third world countries that would give anything just to be able to learn the basic fundamentals of hydraulics, electrical, and mechanical systems but they can’t because there is no tech school or apprenticeship available to them. We take for granted all the opportunities we have in the USA. We are literally offering free education and you get paid more in 2-3 months more than someone can make in a year in another country. My heart goes out to all the people that would give anything to get into this field but they can’t because there are no opportunities or they can’t afford it. I get messages all the time from people all over the world. I’m trying to do my best to help them and there is a huge need for our tech schools in the USA to provide an international program. These people are driven to succeed and we can’t get anybody in the USA to get off their butts and go to work and try to better themselves. They think the world owes them something. It doesn’t…
Right on!
Nice job Justin on articulating the program. Zeth these young men are lucky to have a vested mentor like you
Very impressed with Justin, this guy really wants to succeed and be like his mentor. I applaud Sloan for having this program, the Owner sees the value of Team, not just words but in deeds and is creating more Value with "human capital". Thank you both for very informative videos. I will most likely never work on a Green machine, however these are skills that can be carried over to almost anything.
I miss the days when employers actually valued their employees, glad to see Sloan seems to. Back when health benefits were great, pensions existed, and you could be proud of where you worked and what you did. Many employers have taken all of this away as they follow the trend set by others.
I'm not a mechanic (maybe an amateur one I guess) and I don't work on tractors ever, but I bloody love watching these videos. I've learnt a few little tips and tricks that could come in handy working on cars and even motorbikes. I like you determination when diagnosing issues! Thanks for sharing!
Great video Zeth, just like to say, the world needs great apprenticeships, great apprentices and first class instructors, these are the real key workers that make the world go round,
You're a highly skilled individual, I respect your professionalism. You're awesome. I enjoy watching your shop videos as always it's very informative I've learned a lot. Keep the action coming. Definitely look you up at the next one. Stay safe!!
Interesting video there Zeth! It's often impossible to follow the instructions in SA if you want to get the job done, best way is to find your own way!
The G-series harvesters/forwarders I work on, you have to pull the engine to enter the sump. They are armored underneith so It's impossible to do anything more advanced than draining the oil and coolant through service-hatches. // JD Forestry mech, SWE
Zeth you and Justin work very well together. Zeth thank you for having Justin explain the apprentice program. Love the video’s and thanks for sharing.☺️☺️☺️👍👍👍👍
Nice job Zeth. Thanks for including the interview with Justin, nice to get to know him (and Sloan) a bit better. All the best from Holland!
I used to work at international dealership that treated us the same way makes it great experience getting the training you need to excel on the job
I work for rdo equipment and this will definitely help me get some efficiency on the job so thank you so much for showing this trick. I’ll definitely use it if I ever need to
Zeth
I don't know if you should be a recruiter for Wyoming Tech, a recruiter for Sloan's Implement or a tech manual writer for John Deere. You do everything with professionalism, integrity and respecting the customer while representing Sloan's with honor. Justin, learn all you can from Zeth, he is truly a Master Tech.
the apprentice program is a great opportunity for anybody who is mechanically inclined, willing to work, will keep his nose clean and is willing to learn // will really set a person up for a great life
I‘am really enjoying your videos. Please keep them coming 👍🏻👌🏻
I was literally chuckling when you said don’t laugh! Great video!
This is very nice program wish they had that when I was younger....
Again very informative, seth your a real mechanic. Beautiful job.
I noticed you shot a little JD green on the area of the block where the paint had chipped off, nice touch. I appreciate your attention to detail.
Hey there ZK, I hope you're well and good!
Every time I watch one of your videos, I come away with even more respect for your skill and attention to detail.
As a Dealer Principle, I must say that when we're performing warranty work, and my technician comes to me and says that he doesn't want to follow the Tech Manual, because he can save a lot of time and money by doing it another way, I become very uncomfortable, and even though I may have the utmost respect and confidence in my Technician, I know that if something unforeseen happens while performing this repair, in a way that runs contrary to Deere's TM, its gonna be my rear end that's on the hook, and not Deere's.
That's my only concern about deviating from the TM when performing warranty work.
I hope you have a good one!
"Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌👍🇺🇸
I applaud you on not following the TM.this time.You saved a lot of time and cost.While working on helicopters in Nam I often found ways to get the job done a lot easier than the Manual. My Ship kept flying with no problems.Our outfit had many TM changes approved.
Your videos are great! You do a good job of showing all the steps while keeping the video moving. I would love to see a video on rebuilding a combine final drive.
Thank you! I'm sure the day will come.
Man I've been watch your videos for awhile. And iv been at my current job for coming up on 9 years and I'm just tired of doing the same thing everyday. I machine the transmission cases for the M1A1, which is rewarding but I hit a button and I wait for the part to get done. Yes I change my ownership tools and maintain my setup but I want to do more then just hit a button. I've always been a hands on person and I love figuring out problems. I wish you guys had a location here in Indiana and I would sign up today. I know I'd love the job. Sounds like a great place to work!
Hit up your local John Deere dealer!
You guys really do a great job with explanations to details. Your are really good & much appreciate it!!!!! keep up the good work !!!!! excellent mechanicTech.
Thank you very much!
I retired from the State of California as a heavy equipment mechanic. I loved working with our apprentice program. I will say the book work and theory was no walk in the park for them.
Absolutely love my Tekton Angle wrenches, well worth the money.
I like your guide pins 👍I do that same thing anytime I can for alignment 🇺🇸
You can use fine string or sewing thread to hold gasket in place for assembly
I'm an inspector at NAPDC. Love your channel!
Thank you! What’s that?
@@ZKMasterTech The parts warehouse in Milan, Illinois where most of your parts come from.
Wow you guys are awesome. I have a pretty good idea what you are going through we work on heavy logging equipment everyday.
Thank you for another great and informative video.
Well zeth that job was a lot better and quicker than having to remove the engine. There in more than one way to carry out some jobs sometimes.👍👍👍👍👍
Your apprentice scheme sounds spot on ..
Great video I enjoy watching your videos
Another great one Zeth! The most amazing part is that you and Justin aren't covered in oil. Don't know how you accomplished that! I also wanted to tell you that I bought a Milwaukee 1" Impact (2867-20) that would have been great to use for the axle bolts... its a beast!
BTW... Got an interesting steering problem on a 9530T on your lot. Ask Mark about it.
Happy New Year!
I mostly watch your videos for the awesome tools!
I watch a Massey Ferguson mechanic UA-camr as well but he never does anything 😆
Just sits waiting for the phone to ring 😜
Thinking what is best for the customer and getting it done correctly means happy customer who will keep coming back and spreading the good word about Sloan, means steady employment and lots of work. Love the channel
In another life, I worked at a truck dealership.
I can’t get over the difference between that high pressure, cutthroat, flat rate environment and the approach used at Sloan’s.
If the truck dealership would have treated their employees better, we might still work there.
Management constantly whined about how no one wanted to work anymore.
Great video Zeth happy new year to you an Justin
ZK Master Tech Team... Feliz Año Nuevo 2022! Cordiales desde El Valle del Yaqui, Sonora, Mexico
Wow torque turn on pan bolt????? I’m with you on the Tekton angle wrenches. I have a Techangle 1/2” and love it but I picked up a Gearwrench 3/8” torque angle that rivals the snappy one at a lower cost. Great content!
Hearing the words "Jd remanned engine" give me the heebie jeebies!
I’ve actually had very good luck with JD reman engines. I know some people have had some issues but I’m batting 100.
1:05 love the Vice Grip Garage impression
You do nice work
There is the dumb way of doing things(john deer way) and the smart way of doing things ( your way) thats a good job
John Deere Green!! Love the content
Great work💪
Fantastic video 👍 thankyou
Again, nice work.
Awesome video, thanks!!
Justin was a wheeled vehicle mechanic? I was a track vehicle mechanic!!! Go Army!!!
Zeth, another great video. Appreciate the cleanliness and care shown towards the customer's tractor. With out upsetting anyone, I did notice Justin had a loose bracelet on his wrist, that could end up catching on something and maybe leading or contributing to a nasty injury. Maybe he should just consider keeping it safe or covered up when in close proximity of so many things that it could get trapped. No offence intended, it could be a special gift, but we only get two hands to get on with. Happy New Year.
Agree 100% with that observation/suggestion. Any jewelry around moving parts or electricity is an injury or worse waiting to happen. A short circuit thru a wedding ring when working with 1000 cold cranking amp battery can literally burn your finger off. Be safe guys!
Hey I’ve tried to tell him lol
I removed it
First step to remove oil pan, remove engine. Zeth say's No way I like dude. As always bud keep up the great work.
If I was ever in this industry for work, I'd definitely seek you out 👍
Sweet machine
that torque wrench click was so good sounding....
This is a good one
Lol when you say click and your little jokes in your videos crack me up. Good work and very good videos as well 👍
Glad you like them!
@@ZKMasterTech on that apprentice position do you have to have any kind of prior mechanical schooling at all?
So we took a old oil filter and cut the threads off. And turned it into a plug so we didn’t have to drain the hydraulic reservoir at my shop
try laying the cardboard sheet off pallets when u do an oil change . it absorbed oil
Nice vid!
Don't you just love it when a plan just works as u planed?
Sucks no location in PA closest one is 12 hours from here sounds like a great program
Haha, I think Zeth thnks the same way as I do. He goes " and I think ( you expect a vauge number ) this torque wtench costs ( but then he is very, very specific ) $534 " To me this says when he had to buy but it he actuallyt wanted to ring the snap on guys neck for highway robbery - but after he bought he it became so valuable the high price became more of a shoulder shrug than something to feel bitter about.
Knipex-Tools in america, yeah ! Greetings from Germany :)
Zeth wins again! I was wondering if someone had over torqued that sump drain plug, which caused the pan to crack around it? It looks like the pan was made from cast aluminium, which may not cope with sudden shearing force from an impact wrench, especially in cold weather but wanted to hear your opinion?
I can speculate several reasons but we will never know the true cause.
Great job - thinking outside the box! I'm sure there were a lot more steps and possible collateral damage if removing the engine. When you started the video, I thought you were going to say that removing the engine meant first removing the cab. Sad to say, but it's pretty easy to accept that as true these days. Honestly, I think the Engineers actually believe it will never need service, so they make no provision for taking it apart. And probably most of the service manuals are written by lower-ranking Engineers......
¡Su esposa es increíble!
¡Gracias!
Let’s see Justin’s tool box tour
What brand are those air jacks? They look really handy.
Viewed 1-20-22 from Fairview Hts, Il. Hi Zeth, I have a question: Why did the pan crack around the drain plug?? Have you seen this issue before ?? What has been the "reported" service history with pans cracking in or around the plug area?? I agree .......would not want to pull engine for this repair, I like your short cut method. Good work !!!
I knew it. I should have patented my flow-regulator 🤦♂ ...😅🤣🤣👍
Whoever decided that torque-to-yield bolts belong on that pan should be given the opportunity to try tightening them. Head and rod bolts I can see, but the pan?
I would say that listening to Zeth at the beginning where the engine would come out, pretty easy to torque and turn those bolts sitting on a stand or on its a$$.
Great videos. If that would’ve been out of warranty would you have pullled the motor. Lol
There's more than one way to skin a cat!!!! Good job!! Thanks!
Another great video and all too familiar techniques to get round the sticky situations
Also would like to come to visit you to learn that awesome painting technique does this method works only on John Deere green or does it as work with other colours as well 😄
Again thanks for the videos guys and take care
Only John Deere green lol. It’s bad ass paint. I don’t know what magic is in that stuff but it just lays down beautiful.
I’m a firm believer that the people who dream up these things on paper should have to work on the finished product so they can start making things better lol for everyone
The same goes for aircraft. From a retired USAF heavy aircraft Crew Chief. Such fun.
Just found your channel and subscribed. Thanks for the video. Why would the drain plug area crack?
I can speculate several reasons but will never know the true cause.
@@ZKMasterTech understood, thanks for the reply.
Impacts for removal only the rest has to be done by hand to install
It it were my machine I would have been satisfied with the JB Weld. Nice solid cast piece like that I doubt it would have ever caused any issues.
I suppose that pan is considered a stress member of the block.
Best to fix it right under warranty
I know the feeling with the price of snap on, Great tools, but to expensive here in New Zealand
Uao lo sigo todo el tiempo el es un master me facing y megastar ser parte de ustede tengo algo de esperiencia porke en my pais manejaba Josh Deer Internacional y Ford claro k no esos montru fuera my sueño
Be thankful for whatever tools you got we got none except a few canbus diag tools prob $100 worth and we are a bigger manufacturer so anyone who doesn’t have to pay for all your tools be grateful sounds like Sloan has it down right training atmosphere tool help everything… my only gripe with what I heard about them is $100 a year for boot especially in the field ain’t enough most decent boots are between 200-250 and that’s a year bc how they get tore up and your feet are your vehicle then your hands and mind are the blood and guts of your ability to work but feet being messed up demoralizes you for sure
ZK when you took that axle apart do use any kind of sealant other than the gasket? I have a 9510R that was seeping oil where the axle housing bolts to the center part of the housing.A dealer took it apart and replaced the seals but I think it’s still leaking. I won’t know for sure till I get it in the field this spring.
There’s just a big o ring seal. No other sealer
Is it just me or do those front tires on that service truck look slick
on the 6430 and the 20
Series Are they also one time use oil pan bolts??
Must be common for those pans to crack around the bottom drain, I replaced one the same way but that was 5 years ago and it cracked again. Tig welded the fucker this time.
I did a crankshaft bearing bolt replacement on a JD 6250 due to recalls. The tractor had front hitch and hydraulics. Was a pain in the a.. to get the pan out of there with the lines in the way. Someone at JD should known better when designing the machines.
What is up with the rear wheel weights on the driverless Deere tractor. Is it a new configuration/part number peculiar to the driverless tractor?
here is a thought, remove the bolts that hold the axel on to the tractor, but replace each one with a longer bolt as you take each one to to give you even more room if needed.
After you are done, simply replace the longer bolts with the correct bolts.
Didn’t need to. I said in the video I would get longer bolts if I needed to.
Yipe! What year machine is this, and how many hours on it? Seems fairly young to have axle bearings shot and a reman engine already in it unless it never stops working year round!
Hi bud. Did you watch the video? 2:03 - He says practically everything you asked - a 13.5l tier 3 JD, so go look that up and you get what JD calls a '6135HF485'.
At the same time of the video you can see the oil filter is recent at the 3,500hr mark, it is a JD 9630 which they made from 2007-11.
3,500hrs isn't really new at all, about the same as a 100,000 mile car. That paint sure holds up good.
You used the flowlater 3000, I believe
ZK, a question from a novice, arm chair video watcher. Why does JD specify a specific torque then add 90 degrees?
To stretch the bolts to a specific clamp load.
What kind of pliers are you using?
Maybe you did. But I would have made sure the drain plug was not cross threaded or somehow stuck at the factory before painting it and installing it. 40 years ago my sister had a Subaru. I forget the exact circumstances. The oil drain plug could not be removed. I helped my old man to remove the pan. He brought it to work. Heat didn't work. They ended up drilling a hole in the plug to release any pressure. The thing came right out nice and easy.
The plugs are fine.
Maybe next time parts will lend you a few longer bolts for a few more safety threads
Zeth, what caused the original engine to fail and require a reman? Looks like the unit has around 3500 hours+/- My guess was water pump failure damaging front gear train🤷♂️
I’m not sure. It didn’t come from our shop
How often does a repair like this happen? Great video.
We do a few oil pan gaskets on this specific engine every year but we usually already have the engine out for another reason.
That oil pan did not look big enough to hold 15.8 gals. I was surprised when you said that.
Is it still possible to order a new door on an 96 john deere 7600?
How much does one of those things weigh and cost ???