Mirage 4k, is a lootbox of a plane. You either will get everything, but most likely nothing as gaijin hates french for whatever reason. It should get 4 fuelsage mica/530d slots, 2-4 wing slots depending on configuration, and 2-4 also for ir missiles, either magic 2, or mica ir. Would be happy with 4 530d, and 6 magics, both competitive, and usable... One can dream lol
I think either 4/4 or 4/6 is actually feasible. The Eagle will have 8 missile hard points and the flanker has 10, so only Gaijin hating France would prevent that.
I highly doubt they would do the f16A treatment to the f15. It wouldn’t make since f15e would me introduced for cas. The f16 had a reason for the different versions because it needed a bigger elevator to be able to handle the bigger sparrow missiles
If they add an F-15A or an early F-15C, russian bias is confirmed! (coming from a russian main myself). While they could add an early (1985) Su-27, closing the gap between the Flanker and an early Eagle, they added the later 1987 version of the Su-27 with almost the double of the amount of flares of the initial variant. I hope at least it's mid-80s F-15C (although I would reather to see a late F-15A and an early Su-27 coming first....)
It’s a F15 MSIP mixed with another variant with a mid CAS load out. Fox3’s are more than likely not coming. If they did the aim 120A / r77 wouldn’t be cracked as people think. The 120A according to test pilots was worse than the aim 7M in terms of tracking and maneuverability. However, you can carry 8 -10 missiles on the MSIP IF gaijin allows the f15 to. So many people are crying about fox3’s but these don’t need fox3’s. They do not..
@@jordancourse5102They don’t, but at the same time MiG-29s already absolutely *dominate* the BVR meta with only a pair of R-27s. Sparrows just can’t compete. And the flanker gets up to *six* R-27s. As of what we have seen right now between in-game weapons and what’s in the trailer, the SU-27 will dominate without comparison. It’s a plane a decade newer than the Eagle, using weapons technology three decades newer, and missiles themselves a decade newer. Now one point that must be made; I saw elsewhere that apparently the Flanker in the trailer was not carrying R-27E variants; merely R-27s. And that could be a decent way of balancing it as the base 27s are much more comparable to the late model sparrows. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not crying that the Flanker is op, simply stating factual info. I will be flying all of these planes, and expect to love them all. I also expect we will see a lot more info tomorrow with the dev streams and then dev servers that may change everything; that is why at the start I based everything on current in-game weapons and what we saw in the trailer.
@@seniorspaz8754 I didn’t expect US to get the f15C. A lot assumed it would be the C because they have the block 50 but my assumption was correct on the f15A MSIP. Yea the flanker’s loadout is cracked the f16C will still be too dawg in flight performance. Not to mention radar missiles just hug the deck.. The low deck meta isn’t changing anytime soon. Allied Jets have far more countermeasures as well.
its the F-15A in the trailer idk how you CC gents did not notice that the this F-15 still have the engine petals, while in the F-15C they were removed completely because of the issue that they kept falling off
I was so hyped for f15. I thought ''surely there's no way they could gimp the legendary f15 right?'' Then I saw the trailer and the fact that the f15 we're getting is likely an F15A MSIP ( a 70s aircraft with 70s avionics and a 90s upgrade package probably without most of the major upgrades from said package) that is getting a loadout of 4 9L and 4 7M. Whereas the likely SU27P (a late 80s/early 90s variant of the su27?) will be getting a loadout of 4 73, 2 27et, and 4 27er along with (rumored) double the CM its capable of carrying. No bias here komrade. We fr need to scream at gaijin to at least give us 9M just like we had to do with the F16 Block 50.
@@Silent_WT i wrote this before the dev dropped and i was only wrong about the 9Ls being the IR missiles the f15 got. the f15 is still heavily underperforming without its actual engines that have 5000 kgf more thrust and its FM is still incorrect which would hugely help it in dogfights, as well as the su27 slightly underperforming in the rate fight. they should be way more competitive with each other, but the f15 is getting the SMT treatment for some reason.
i guess i also missed the german 2a7?:D edit: the leopards you can see in the trailer are the swedish one. You can see it at the gun. Its still the l44.
i hope the gripen gets some kind of decent missiles, this is the possible missiles it can equip: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen#JAS_39C/D 6 × IRIS-T (Rb.98) or AIM-9 Sidewinder (Rb.74) or A-Darter 4 × MBDA Meteor (Rb.101), AIM-120 AMRAAM (Rb.99) or MBDA MICA it has to get some kind of missiles other than the aim 9L. if it doesn't we just have a more agile viggen with good situ awareness Edit: Just watched the dev stream, it gets 6 aim9M (rb.74(M)) and the skyflash missiles. (rb.71)
I really hope they decrease the number of players in top tier air rb, otherwise this is gonna be mayhem. God forbid they add amraams and r77s in this state lol
@@blume3516 That's the idea, a modified EC that starts functions the same as Sim but in RB with the same length of time. BVR just isn't all that useful at the moment so it mostly comes down to what plane has the best agility
Yeah if this is what Germany is getting after@@kingivar6315 3 years of just the 2a6 and 2a5 variants, when both American and Russian are literally getting 2a7 comparable tanks then this update fucking sucks for them, and I myself might not be touching the corpse that is the German nation ever again in WT.
My only hope is that it just wasnt shown yet and so far that with the big leak list getting every single tank right, that the 2a7 is coming and just wasnt in the video
That wasn't a 2A7, the barrel is too short for it to be a 2A7. I've seen people saying it's some variant of the Strv 122.
strv122B+
Imagine strv 122B but with more armor
it was a 2A7 though
Dev stream confirmed 2a7.. so ur wrong
hes not wrong tho, 2a7 wasn´t shown due to not having a texture@@Knip__
Mirage 4k, is a lootbox of a plane. You either will get everything, but most likely nothing as gaijin hates french for whatever reason. It should get 4 fuelsage mica/530d slots, 2-4 wing slots depending on configuration, and 2-4 also for ir missiles, either magic 2, or mica ir. Would be happy with 4 530d, and 6 magics, both competitive, and usable...
One can dream lol
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I think either 4/4 or 4/6 is actually feasible. The Eagle will have 8 missile hard points and the flanker has 10, so only Gaijin hating France would prevent that.
that is going to be my title for the 4K! it is sooooooo true!
4:10 that was one cluster fck to say semi active radar missles 😂
hahahahaha its too hard for me to say xDD
Those SU 27 rockets look like laser-guided ones
Yes, they have access to laser rockets and regular.
between 2:21-2:23 there is a tor radar spinning and shooting its rocket. i hope it is the new tor-m2.
@Silent that wasn't the Leopard 2A7 that was the Strv 122B with the evolution package
we still got the 2a7 though which saved me some face 😂
I highly doubt they would do the f16A treatment to the f15. It wouldn’t make since f15e would me introduced for cas. The f16 had a reason for the different versions because it needed a bigger elevator to be able to handle the bigger sparrow missiles
If they add an F-15A or an early F-15C, russian bias is confirmed! (coming from a russian main myself). While they could add an early (1985) Su-27, closing the gap between the Flanker and an early Eagle, they added the later 1987 version of the Su-27 with almost the double of the amount of flares of the initial variant. I hope at least it's mid-80s F-15C (although I would reather to see a late F-15A and an early Su-27 coming first....)
All of this is irrelevant for all other nations, both aircraft are way too OP on the battlefield unless the AMRAAM gets added
How does any of this confirm Russian bias? More flares?
It’s a F15 MSIP mixed with another variant with a mid CAS load out. Fox3’s are more than likely not coming. If they did the aim 120A / r77 wouldn’t be cracked as people think. The 120A according to test pilots was worse than the aim 7M in terms of tracking and maneuverability. However, you can carry 8 -10 missiles on the MSIP IF gaijin allows the f15 to. So many people are crying about fox3’s but these don’t need fox3’s. They do not..
@@jordancourse5102They don’t, but at the same time MiG-29s already absolutely *dominate* the BVR meta with only a pair of R-27s. Sparrows just can’t compete. And the flanker gets up to *six* R-27s. As of what we have seen right now between in-game weapons and what’s in the trailer, the SU-27 will dominate without comparison. It’s a plane a decade newer than the Eagle, using weapons technology three decades newer, and missiles themselves a decade newer.
Now one point that must be made; I saw elsewhere that apparently the Flanker in the trailer was not carrying R-27E variants; merely R-27s. And that could be a decent way of balancing it as the base 27s are much more comparable to the late model sparrows.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not crying that the Flanker is op, simply stating factual info. I will be flying all of these planes, and expect to love them all. I also expect we will see a lot more info tomorrow with the dev streams and then dev servers that may change everything; that is why at the start I based everything on current in-game weapons and what we saw in the trailer.
@@seniorspaz8754 I didn’t expect US to get the f15C. A lot assumed it would be the C because they have the block 50 but my assumption was correct on the f15A MSIP. Yea the flanker’s loadout is cracked the f16C will still be too dawg in flight performance. Not to mention radar missiles just hug the deck.. The low deck meta isn’t changing anytime soon. Allied Jets have far more countermeasures as well.
its the F-15A in the trailer idk how you CC gents did not notice that the this F-15 still have the engine petals, while in the F-15C they were removed completely because of the issue that they kept falling off
Where are you seeing that?
Some F15Cs in history also had them.
How about the countermeasures?
I'm no expert but I hear that the F15A didn't have them and we can see the one in the trailer using them
@@kitsu6834 MSIP upgrade gave them CM
Guess we just gotta wait
I was so hyped for f15. I thought ''surely there's no way they could gimp the legendary f15 right?'' Then I saw the trailer and the fact that the f15 we're getting is likely an F15A MSIP ( a 70s aircraft with 70s avionics and a 90s upgrade package probably without most of the major upgrades from said package) that is getting a loadout of 4 9L and 4 7M. Whereas the likely SU27P (a late 80s/early 90s variant of the su27?) will be getting a loadout of 4 73, 2 27et, and 4 27er along with (rumored) double the CM its capable of carrying. No bias here komrade. We fr need to scream at gaijin to at least give us 9M just like we had to do with the F16 Block 50.
they are perfectly good against each other, I have flown both now and they have different playstyles but competitive against each other.
@@Silent_WT i wrote this before the dev dropped and i was only wrong about the 9Ls being the IR missiles the f15 got. the f15 is still heavily underperforming without its actual engines that have 5000 kgf more thrust and its FM is still incorrect which would hugely help it in dogfights, as well as the su27 slightly underperforming in the rate fight. they should be way more competitive with each other, but the f15 is getting the SMT treatment for some reason.
i guess i also missed the german 2a7?:D edit: the leopards you can see in the trailer are the swedish one. You can see it at the gun. Its still the l44.
haha, i have the same opinion on the f15
Gripen gets aim 9m
That aint a 2a7, it's an strv 122
Thank you for the correction
i hope the gripen gets some kind of decent missiles, this is the possible missiles it can equip: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen#JAS_39C/D
6 × IRIS-T (Rb.98) or AIM-9 Sidewinder (Rb.74) or A-Darter
4 × MBDA Meteor (Rb.101), AIM-120 AMRAAM (Rb.99) or MBDA MICA
it has to get some kind of missiles other than the aim 9L. if it doesn't we just have a more agile viggen with good situ awareness
Edit:
Just watched the dev stream, it gets 6 aim9M (rb.74(M)) and the skyflash missiles. (rb.71)
I really hope they decrease the number of players in top tier air rb, otherwise this is gonna be mayhem. God forbid they add amraams and r77s in this state lol
Think the number is fine, but with AMRAAMS and R77s they'd need bigger maps to make BVR actually the main kind of fight
@@spitfyrevii933 they need a completely different gamemode in order to make that work. EC would maybe work for that
@@blume3516 That's the idea, a modified EC that starts functions the same as Sim but in RB with the same length of time. BVR just isn't all that useful at the moment so it mostly comes down to what plane has the best agility
Su27 smash
It has to be a 2a7. There is no other variants of the Strv 122 aside from the A&B model UPDATE (NVM this update is dead to me now)
It’s the strv 122b evolution
It has upgraded armor on sides and turret
Yeah if this is what Germany is getting after@@kingivar6315 3 years of just the 2a6 and 2a5 variants, when both American and Russian are literally getting 2a7 comparable tanks then this update fucking sucks for them, and I myself might not be touching the corpse that is the German nation ever again in WT.
My only hope is that it just wasnt shown yet and so far that with the big leak list getting every single tank right, that the 2a7 is coming and just wasnt in the video
Pog
no u
SU-27 is like russia said hey copy F-15 in every way just put different skin on it its trash
just no... go back to your tanks, you don't know anything about fighter jets
@@IllustriousUnknown416i agree coz wtf was that statement
According to your logic, the F15 is a copy paste of the Mig25
SU-27 is better in a dogfight wdym , its not a "copy" 💀
they are not, they are made with completely different doctrines in mind.
Please stop saying fox 1, 2 , 3.....
Why? It’s simple and saves time
just complaining about anything atp
Fr, its annoying "15 days no shower" dcs tryhard lingo
Cry harder dude holy shit. @@Q...........-
@@Q...........- So because you cant understand the lingo of a game you play, people that do use it are sweats? you sound uneducated lol