It blows my mind ancient man said, "let's melt this green rock and see what happens?" LOL! Consider using the spidery looking smelted copper, polished up, in some sort of inlay project. You do a great job presenting and always fun to watch. Keep up the great work. 🙂
It is definitely an interesting discovery from our ancestors. I just picture someone bored... Throwing rocks into the fire. And then, eureka :) Using the copper for an inlay project sounds cool. Got any particular ideas in mind? It definitely has an eye catching factor to it. Thanks for the nice comment. I appreciate it! :)
That's called granulation, mix ore or fine metal shavings with charcoal and heat it in a low oxygen environment, it makes round beads of different sizes. It was and still is used to make jewelry, there are lots of videos of it. If you'd continued to heat it you likely would've got a small ingot, the copper would have eventually flowed together under higher heat.
Im two years too late for addi g insight, but my ameteur experience is that you can basically cook any copper ore/nased material in rhe oresemce of a reducing agent (carbon is often the agent of choice) and it will yeild a purified base metal. My experiments are converting copper sulphate because its cheap and easy to get, into its carbonate and directly smelting just by heating, or comvert it to its oxide with heat and adding carbon to steal the oxygen.
The coal used for pull oxide from copper , malachite is cu2co3 , with heat the co2 will go out , and the coal will take the oxygen from cu2 then we get pure copper , thanks for this video
Yes the more oxygen that the presses is exposed to the less effective ; the best results are in a sealed crucible with 1/4 the amount of charcoal ; the exchange happens in an oxygen free Environment the charcoal drives the oxygen out of the sealed crucible and the best way to shape that axe is by cold hammering; copper hardens with cold hammering it compresses the molecules so hammering that thing into shape would harden it which is what’s needed to make an axe head
I didn't weigh it unfortunately. I had that same question afterwards. I'm going to keep my bigger stones intact at this point but I still have enough smaller particles for one more melt, so on that iteration, I will get that data. Thanks for the comment and for supporting my channel :)
Malachite is cu2co3 , with heat co2 will out then we get cuo , then we need to pull oxygen from oxide copper , the coal ash its need oxygen cuase he cover the curcible , and its take the oxygen from oxide copper , then we got metal copper , thier is other way it by let the hydrogen gas pass through oxide copper when it heated the it will take the oxygen and be h2o and we get pure copper
Yeah copper is definitely valuable these days. I don't think you'd make a lot of money converting malachite to copper in current times but I definitely agree if you mean copper scrap. Malachite is such a beautiful stone that I think people can make more money selling the stone than they can converting it to copper. That being said it is a really fun experiment and neat to watch copper resulting from the process. Thanks for the comment! :)
Maximus you make a good point. Malachite is beautiful when it's tumbled and I have a tumbler for some other rocks I've found on my adventures. I'll likely save the rest for doing just that. This was one of those experiments though that I'd heard about and just had to try myself. Thanks for the comment.
Wow. No go look up some Mississippian Indian artifacts found in Alabama and Indiana and try making one of those art pieces out of what you have! 😂 good luck. Crazy how much spare time having no technology gives ya!
There is definitely some beautiful stuff made of malachite. I felt bad smashing it up. When I travel overseas the shops always have some really cool malachite trinkets.
Please don't use gloves with power tools . Once the tool grabs the glove it'll pull it in with your flesh and bones . 43 yrs in heavy industry, my hands and fingers are still with me . Thanks for the video I'm currently collecting ore to refine .
That's cool! The copper from the second melt looked great. Nice copper shot.
Thanks! I thought you might enjoy this one. I appreciate the continued support on my channel :)
It blows my mind ancient man said, "let's melt this green rock and see what happens?" LOL!
Consider using the spidery looking smelted copper, polished up, in some sort of inlay project.
You do a great job presenting and always fun to watch.
Keep up the great work. 🙂
It is definitely an interesting discovery from our ancestors. I just picture someone bored... Throwing rocks into the fire. And then, eureka :)
Using the copper for an inlay project sounds cool. Got any particular ideas in mind? It definitely has an eye catching factor to it.
Thanks for the nice comment. I appreciate it! :)
Really? I’ve spent a lot of time in the woods alone with fire. It’d be the first thing I tried lol. Maybe it’s the male brain vs the female brain 😂
So cool man thanks for sharing. and I really appreciate how you showed that you can smelt larger chunks of copper ore.
Awesome job! Straight forward and very informative.
Thanks! I try to get to the point. I appreciate the comment and support on my channel :)
That's called granulation, mix ore or fine metal shavings with charcoal and heat it in a low oxygen environment, it makes round beads of different sizes. It was and still is used to make jewelry, there are lots of videos of it. If you'd continued to heat it you likely would've got a small ingot, the copper would have eventually flowed together under higher heat.
Wow was surprised how good that ingot looked.
Interesting! What a great skill to have!
Thanks! It's been a fun way to handle some of the scrap metal I have left from other projects.
I bet that copper is very strong😮
great vid mate
Thanks Jamie I appreciate that. 🙂
@@SustainableCraig i had a go at it myself the other day, i managed to get 192 grams of copper out of 700 grams of malachite,
What a cool project 😎
Thanks! Been wanting to do this one for a long time!
I think that's an atz. Those kind of axes were fitted to a '1' shaped branch as the handle.
Ya in hindsight I didn't install it correctly. 🤦♂️
That would be very dangerous
But I love it😊
It's really cool though even though it's dangerous
Awesome job 👍
Great
That looks cool
And I am a rock expert❤
It's really cool try it out
This was cool
Thanks! I appreciate the nice comment.
Dear reader,any idea what is the mixing ratio of malachite to charcoal?
So cool I love it❤❤❤
Five stars excellent
Im two years too late for addi g insight, but my ameteur experience is that you can basically cook any copper ore/nased material in rhe oresemce of a reducing agent (carbon is often the agent of choice) and it will yeild a purified base metal.
My experiments are converting copper sulphate because its cheap and easy to get, into its carbonate and directly smelting just by heating, or comvert it to its oxide with heat and adding carbon to steal the oxygen.
The coal used for pull oxide from copper , malachite is cu2co3 , with heat the co2 will go out , and the coal will take the oxygen from cu2 then we get pure copper , thanks for this video
Great explanation! :)
Yes the more oxygen that the presses is exposed to the less effective ; the best results are in a sealed crucible with 1/4 the amount of charcoal ; the exchange happens in an oxygen free Environment the charcoal drives the oxygen out of the sealed crucible and the best way to shape that axe is by cold hammering; copper hardens with cold hammering it compresses the molecules so hammering that thing into shape would harden it which is what’s needed to make an axe head
@@shedmanstephen8725 thank sir for this info , so the better way is putting 1/4 of charcoal and 3/4 of malchiate ?
Good,,,
Sir u use crucible use?
Did you weigh the malachite before and the copper after? What was the conversion percentage?
I didn't weigh it unfortunately. I had that same question afterwards. I'm going to keep my bigger stones intact at this point but I still have enough smaller particles for one more melt, so on that iteration, I will get that data. Thanks for the comment and for supporting my channel :)
Malachite have about 30-40% pure copper , and thats depending on rock
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what temperature does it have to be
can i do it in a bunsen burner
I don't think you'll be able to do it with a bunsen burner. Copper melts around 2,000° F
That looks dangerous of the lava
What is the purpose of adding the coal ash?
Malachite is cu2co3 , with heat co2 will out then we get cuo , then we need to pull oxygen from oxide copper , the coal ash its need oxygen cuase he cover the curcible , and its take the oxygen from oxide copper , then we got metal copper , thier is other way it by let the hydrogen gas pass through oxide copper when it heated the it will take the oxygen and be h2o and we get pure copper
The price of tonne of copper about 11k usd , it good business
Yeah copper is definitely valuable these days. I don't think you'd make a lot of money converting malachite to copper in current times but I definitely agree if you mean copper scrap. Malachite is such a beautiful stone that I think people can make more money selling the stone than they can converting it to copper. That being said it is a really fun experiment and neat to watch copper resulting from the process. Thanks for the comment! :)
If I were you, I wouldn't melt the malachite and I would tumble it instead
Maximus you make a good point. Malachite is beautiful when it's tumbled and I have a tumbler for some other rocks I've found on my adventures. I'll likely save the rest for doing just that. This was one of those experiments though that I'd heard about and just had to try myself. Thanks for the comment.
Im a newb, but why would you adulterate the malachite with ashes?
You need the coal for the reaction to occur.
Sir i am using the same method
Malachite is Expensive.... Copper is Cheap.... What Gives?
Exploring the process if extraxtion?
Wow. No go look up some Mississippian Indian artifacts found in Alabama and Indiana and try making one of those art pieces out of what you have! 😂 good luck. Crazy how much spare time having no technology gives ya!
There is definitely some beautiful stuff made of malachite. I felt bad smashing it up. When I travel overseas the shops always have some really cool malachite trinkets.
Please don't use gloves with power tools .
Once the tool grabs the glove it'll pull it in with your flesh and bones .
43 yrs in heavy industry, my hands and fingers are still with me .
Thanks for the video
I'm currently collecting ore to refine .
Great
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting on my channel. :)