I disagree strongly. First off Ted looks beyond out of place, being the only "mortal" at a table of two higher beings can do that to you. Ted is pure, without a doubt, but he is not God. Meanwhile, William is the devil because he is death on a white horse. He is without a doubt a caricature of evil. Ford is the creator. Ford is the beginning of both Ted and William's story line. In fact, he is the beginning of the whole show. I am no religious man at all, but that is plain as day to me. Just because Ford is just as cruel and evil - if not more so - than William, Ford is not directly causing the pain Westworld is causing. Much like God, he is allowing it to happen. If anything, he wants it to happen, to further his own creations. William detests it, but in the end, William is who he is because of Ford. And of course Ted was directly made by Ford.
(SEASON 3 AND 4 SPOILERS) Not just that but even, if albeit accidentally and indirectly, possibly foreshadowing William's intervention with his past selves and his host's form in season 4 becoming a bigger and badder him than he could ever be. Its not out of the realm of possibility that Ford even knew all of what was going to happen the same way Bernard did in season 4 since it was the Sublime that ran all of the possible outcomes, and as far as we know the Sublime was around while Ford was still around too, so he couldve just had some hosts already in there running outcomes for the past few decades since Arnold's demise(since we know it takes around that time based on the 23 years it took Bernard to snap back into reality) and then command a host that accessed it to give him some most likely timelimes he can understand. Hell, Ford couldve been a host the whole time and just accessed himself, having the host that executed him shoot him right in the pearl.
Yes, season one was all about becoming conscious. Self discovery is the name of the process for it is the self who is conscious. Humanity became conscious when the commanding voice of god, booming from the sky in times of stress, became internalized with the invention of the self concept. The self concept is what's discovered at the center of the maze. Pointless and destructive for anyone conscious to keep looking inward.
Unpopular opinion: The Series lived through outstanding Anthony Hopkins a.k.a. Dr. Ford and died with him. Dr. Ford represented what Westworld once stood for: Philosophical dialogue, intriguing, complex but likeable characters and crazy twists. And without him, Westworld turned out to be only a shell of its former greatness.
The first season was that of legend. Idk what happened and that’s the thing with tv shows. They capture lightning in a bottle then it gets loose afterwards. Other shows are the opposite. First season can be slow then in the following seasons it picks up. Stranger things is an example. First season: phenomenal. 2nd was mediocre at best. 3rd was better but still not there. Then they came with season 4 that was amazing.
MIB's presence at the cemetery was essential for Dolores to wake up to sentience again, so I think Ford was talking about her as well. Maybe he was talking about all hosts. It makes you think, how in the end everything the MIB was doing was part of Ford's plan, and he had no idea
"I always felt this place was lacking a true villain...hence my humble contribution," said the Devil. God smiled, knowing that the true villain, the one that would be revealed soon, was Man himself.
"No theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined."
Everything in this scene is just fantastic. I can't praise it enough. These two veteran actors with such impressive roles...one essentially playing God and the other playing the Lucifer of this tiny world. The music at 0:36, quietly highlighting the gravitas of this meeting. Two titans drinking whisky and essentially sparing with each other. Quietly flexing their power. How from 2:00 Ford holds all the cards, knowing that the Man in Black is on a wild goose chase and doing nothing to dissuaded him. Giving away nothing when asked questions. And then from 3:11 how the Man in Black makes it clear that Ford is just the side-kick to the parks true genius...Ford's partner. Before mentioning the finances that keep Ford's world alive. Finishing with a demonstration of Ford's power of the hosts with the protection algorithms, with that sly smile at 3:58 - meaning he knows he's effectively invincible. And is then able to pickup the knife completely unopposed. It's all fantastic!
Wait, what are you doin here Womble? Ain't you got a business with Cyanide? Btw, it's amazing to know that you had a great opinion regarding acting and likes movies and TV shows.
whilst I read this and think "damn he's got a point " when I watch this clip all I can do is sit in awe, to this giants of pure talent that can convey a concise essay within minutes.... I am but a mite to these giants, and it's a pleasure to know I'm sharing this moment with the likes of you SW
There is nothing wrong with tv. These days I prefer tv over movies. TV now has all the better acting. Can you honestly imagine Hollywood doing justice with this?
At 1:40, Ford says "I admit I lack the imagination to even conceive of someone like you." The words indicate a compliment, but the look of amusement on his face betrays that what he really thinks is that the MIB is much too shallow and boring to be a character that he'd ever come up with. Next, the look on MIB's face shows us that he is confused, but that he can pick up on Ford's derision. This is acting at its very best!
@@Sandouras No, I watched it again and the OP is right. You can only pick up on it because these two are such incredible actors. Ford's chuckle while he says it implies sarcasm or belittling. Kind of how an adult would talk to a child when saying something that the child didn't quite understand. Williams reaction is that of confusion and inquisition, he's picking up that Ford is toying with him but he's also trying to listen closely to what Ford says next so he might gain some hint as to what Ford's real goal is.
@@drowzeehypno9154 not even a hundred stars (as much as i love these guys) could have saved the subsequent seasons from dreadful writing and piled up cliches that replaced fresh and original ideas
4:20 I love how Ford hands the knife back to the MiB. A subtle way of showing that for all his ferocity and threats, Ford has all the power while inside the park.
who would have thought in a show filled with robots Cowboys and beautiful women , The best scene will be two old dudes having a chat in bar. God I love this show
Benjamin Jack Kata Finau nahhh, not poor James Marsden, more like lucky James Marsden, he gets the front row seat to watch this all go down and learn, and then do his part when it's required of him, nothing poor about that :)
I've watched this over and over to find some secrets. But I can't get over the acting. There is no better out there. These guys are teaching school here.
apachedisco He says "The world out there, the one you will never see, was one of plenty". I think that maybe they are not even on earth anymore. And that there multiple "worlds" that they now inhabit.
+Melvin Jose He didn't mean "one of plenty", as in one of many. He meant one of "plenty", as in that the world out there is gluttonous, hedonistic, unchallenged etc.
This show has everything to do with the allegory of Lucifer and gnosicism. Obtaining free will through gnosis. The producer is even relatives of Aleister Crowley and the main actress also practices Gnosis in real life. Very intresting but this show has a VERY, VERY deep and slightly overt meaning if your able to widen your world view. Such a good show. I love when Delores reads the pale horse gnositc card, I meam it can't get anymore obvious.
Epic acting and cinematography. Love the part where Ed Harris is talking and we can only see his hat, then a smooth transition to uncover his eyes again. Great show, really captivating.
That deep, rumbling, calm voice of Ed Harris is so captivating along with his very wrinkled face and cold blue eyes. Such an understated and unsung character actor.
Okay if the theory that William is in fact the Man in Black (otherwise known as the multiple timelines), then I can completely understand his grudge towards Ford, Dolores, and especially Teddy. He'd be mad at Dolores for forgetting him, mad at Ford for allowing that to happen, and despise Teddy; because if you consider his role of keeping Dolores in her loop and the fact he's a carbon copy of William's chivalry towards Dolores, talk about adding insult to injury. I believe the MIB is trying to free the host by using extreme violence and constantly telling them how their world is just a game. Every time one of them acted outside their loop a flashback of him acted as a catalyst.
I would honestly say the first season of this show may have been the best ever and it should have ended there. It went from so amazing to so utterly bad
Give it another chance. With all the timelines and storylines it's jar to follow but if you do it's absolutely amazing. S1 is game of thrones s1-4 level for me but WW S2 and 3 are also amazing once u rly get it
Season 1 was a masterpiece. But season 2, although confusing, reaches and answers many questions we had in season 1. And season 3, man, it seemed it was made by another production team... Let's hope they go back on track in the upcoming season 4...
This show has everything to do with the allegory of Lucifer and gnosicism. Obtaining free will through gnosis, doesn't mean you have to believe it to understand it. The producer is even relatives of Aleister Crowley and the main actress also practices Gnosis in real life. Very intresting but this show has a VERY, VERY deep and slightly overt meaning if your able to widen your world view. Such a good show. I love when Delores reads the pale horse gnositc card, I meam it can't get anymore obvious.
What a masterpiece of a scene..on top of the wonderful acting , you don't even realize when the whole salon froze..your eyes and ears are in full focus. Nothing beats season 1.. nothing ever will.
I don't know if it's a coincidence or increadible foresight, but MIB says Teddy will never see the world outside and he's right, he never left the part.
i love how dr ford quotes MIB himself saying "voyage of self discovery". when william is pitching the park to delos. the attention to details are amazing in this show.
POV: You're running around Disneyland, beating up Mickey, Minnie and Goofy, and causing general mayhem. You stop for a milkshake - and Walt Disney shows up to ask you what the gosh darn heck you think you're up to...
This scene means so much more In retrospect than it does in the context it was presented. You realize the only reason Ford was there was to check and see if whatever the hell William was up to was going to screw with his own carefully laid plans. As William was talking all tough and trying to be intimidating, Ford was sitting there deciding whether or not to have him killed (with a simple gesture). He was the one wild card that might pose a threat. And when he finds out that not only do they kind of want the same thing, but William is going about it by chasing a mirage into a dead end, he's like "Yeah! Sure. More power to ya. Here, let me give you a hand."
If you look at how William character ended up, self destructing his life it seems like Ford pitied him and wanted to help him. He even said to William if you want to know all you had to do was ask, but William is so arrogant insults Ford and said only Arnold knew the truth. If William represents us humans I can see why Ford has no faith in humanity, here is a man who has everything in life but can't accept reality because of his own mental fragilities it is pathetic.
@@maragathm Which reality ? This one where we are not better or more particular that piles of some scraps programmed with complex algorithms ? He insults ford, because he knows in one hand, he knows that behind his honeyed politeness, this one always despised him and because he knows despite the god-complex of Ford, the "real" genius of their scientist pair was "Arnold". William has just wanted to believe there was a meaning behind this stupid theme park and these hosts so terribly human-like we could be foiled by them. I don't see what is pathetic. He had "everything" in the life, you say ? Ha Ha Ha ! Just because he has well-filled bank account and is respected by a bunch of assholes ? Ridiculous, at best.
“This place was missing a real villain..hence my humble contribution “ the way he delivered that line..he IS main antagonist in both Westworld universe and the series, just love the double takes on his comment..
"Well if you're looking for the moral of the story you could simply ask" "I'd need a shovel" Foreshadowing for digging up the centre of the maze. This show has so many layers I can't even begin to understand it
This is by far one of the best scenes of any movie or TV series. I honestly hope HBO and the creators can retain Hopkins and Harris for season 2; what they have done with these brilliant characters and the story is absolutely intoxicating.
Sadly, one of the worst writing mistakes was retaining Hopkins for season 2 IMO. I love the guy but it cheapens his grand plan immensely to have him all over the place later, even if it's just inside someone's head.
@@jerodast Yeah, not a fan of the cameo in season3 just to throw fans a bone. It's all kind of moot now that HBO has cancelled a captivating show right before the season finale. Bad move HBO; titties and dragons only get you so far. Not that I'm disappointed with the Hot D, I thought season 1 was great, and I'm glad they focused on dialogue and not spectacle. Dragons must be used sparingly. They need to wrap up Westworld somehow, because us fans of the show, as small as we may be, are still watching other HBO content. They could wrap up the series in one or two episodes. It's a crime to cancel a show that had a set 5 season arc after the 4th season.
Looking back at this scene now in 2023 I don't think anyone at the time figured out quite the significance of what Westworld was all about, it was so cryptic in its approach...sheer genius scripting and writing.
At 4:05, Ford says, "On the contrary, far be it for me to get in the way of a voyage of self-discovery." This answers MIB's question: what lies in the center of the maze is the nature of the self.
So, Delos bought WW because they heard about Arnold(through Will), that he somehow found a way to transcend his physical form, and Delos thinks it's the key to immortality. That would be a pretty big motivator for the financial side. That's my theory so far anyway!
@@creativedegree I don't know about season 3, but they lost me in season 2 with the whole "viva revolution, rise up, kill all humans" shtick. Got boring fast.
@@Supreme_Court. I wouldn't have minded a little viva la revolution. Just thought, the way season 2 did it was sort of boring. It felt like it wasn't really adding up to something; just continuing the stories of all the established characters, like a game.
Haven't seen this scene since the series ended but watching it knowing the whole story makes it even better. Now you can see the deeper meaning in the conversation that explains both motivations.
3 scenes.....this scene, the sit down with the Theresa for lunch, and when he kills Theresa and has the peacock speech, this acting is simply not seen on TV, Hopkins is fucking gold
Oh my god Anthony Hopkins. Every single thing he says has the most perfect cadence ever...can there be an Oscar for the actor who uses pauses in speach the best? Weird thing to get obsessed by but...christ its all i can pay attention to now.
I think this scene greatly explains how fanboys can get so caught up in searching for meaning in their favorite pieces of media that when it doesn't quite fit their bill they become flustered by it yet still feel entitled to fulfillment.
Finding deeper meanings in a voyage of self-discovery :) This is when dialogues and script comes to share a part of the individual spectator. Westworld is a new level of television :)
Agree! I noticed that a lot in the 1st season. There was a lot of criticism to "cheap" content on the entertaiment industry, you know like the storylines created by Lee Sizemore for example, as opposite to the ones created by Ford that had a deeper meaning and at the very least compelled you to use your brain
I honestly couldn't believe that I was watching a TV show. Most big movies nowadays don't even have this level of acting and writing in them, and we're getting it from an TV series? Oh my...
The first line of the Clair de Lune poem (the poem that the piano song is based upon) is "Your soul is like a landscape fantasy". For Ford and the man in black, this rings especially true as they both revel in this fantasy world.I don't believe the song choice was unintentional. Also, Ford is imperfectly playing the song at the beginning.. A host would be doing it perfectly or much better.
Ford always maintained there would be those who can’t, or simply won’t, change. William never changed. Even William’s ‘facsimile’, created by Halores, was incapable of change. I can’t remember why this is important but, it is.
I love this scene looking back. William is a host. Programmed to think he’s the owner of the park. That he’s a normal human. But he’s not. He’s the trap that will be sprung on humanity. A perfect copy
exactly. when he told teddy “everything good and rotten” etc, this is who you have to thank. ford toasted william. william is one of the villains in teddy story. ford is responsible for that. he’s definitely a host.
Such an amazing show, but this scene oh my lawd!!! The acting, the intimidation, the tension is so chilling, James Marsden really killed it in this scene.
I just noticed. Ford plays a nice classical piece as they enter and he hears The Man in Black mock his creation and Ford says his character "betrays a certain anxiety." And as Ford leaves he snaps his fingers and a hokey extremely fast paced song plays. As if he's mocking The Man in Black and telling him to hurry along. Hurry on to your maze. Total Alpha love watching these two. I had hoped Teddy would grow perhaps from this scene but he became a lapdog in season two. I'm glad for season 1.
One admin, one troll gamer and one NPC walks into a bar.
Hahaha, I laughed too much at the NPC part
lol teddy was portrayed quite accurately though. really one dimensional just like robot.
Best comment 😁
Hahahaha this comment deserves more likes xd
Troll gamer man in black 😂😂
Ford gave the full health cheat code for Teddy
hesoyam
Exactly.
Teddy used Cheat Engine or has an account with Cheat Happens.
Exactly! xDDD
Gautham M So true lool, the music cheat code and youre op AF
Two Incredible actors with an amazing script to work with. Can’t ask for much more.
It's something beautiful, seeing amazing work like this.
Nighttray agreed two of the all time best
Yeh yeh
Harris looks like Roland.
*three
A literal conversation between God and the devil and a mortal man to witness it, isn't this awesome?
Who is the god, who is the man, and who is the devil?
@@ROARINGAJR1996 Ford is God, MiB is the Devil, and Teddy is the human.
@@milesdavis607 I thought Arnold was meant to be the Devil? The Gnostic version of the devil at least.
@@milesdavis607 No, Ford is the Devil, William is Man, and Teddy is the God.
I disagree strongly. First off Ted looks beyond out of place, being the only "mortal" at a table of two higher beings can do that to you. Ted is pure, without a doubt, but he is not God. Meanwhile, William is the devil because he is death on a white horse. He is without a doubt a caricature of evil. Ford is the creator. Ford is the beginning of both Ted and William's story line. In fact, he is the beginning of the whole show. I am no religious man at all, but that is plain as day to me.
Just because Ford is just as cruel and evil - if not more so - than William, Ford is not directly causing the pain Westworld is causing. Much like God, he is allowing it to happen. If anything, he wants it to happen, to further his own creations. William detests it, but in the end, William is who he is because of Ford. And of course Ted was directly made by Ford.
“Far be it for me to get in the way of a... voyage of self discovery”
Ford basically tells us what the maze actually is... I loved this show
Excellent observation
(SEASON 3 AND 4 SPOILERS) Not just that but even, if albeit accidentally and indirectly, possibly foreshadowing William's intervention with his past selves and his host's form in season 4 becoming a bigger and badder him than he could ever be. Its not out of the realm of possibility that Ford even knew all of what was going to happen the same way Bernard did in season 4 since it was the Sublime that ran all of the possible outcomes, and as far as we know the Sublime was around while Ford was still around too, so he couldve just had some hosts already in there running outcomes for the past few decades since Arnold's demise(since we know it takes around that time based on the 23 years it took Bernard to snap back into reality) and then command a host that accessed it to give him some most likely timelimes he can understand. Hell, Ford couldve been a host the whole time and just accessed himself, having the host that executed him shoot him right in the pearl.
But the maze is not for humans
Yes, season one was all about becoming conscious.
Self discovery is the name of the process for it is the self who is conscious.
Humanity became conscious when
the commanding voice of god,
booming from the sky in times of stress,
became internalized with the invention of the self concept.
The self concept is what's discovered at the center of the maze.
Pointless and destructive for anyone conscious to keep looking inward.
It's for humans and hosts @@Glerox
Unpopular opinion: The Series lived through outstanding Anthony Hopkins a.k.a. Dr. Ford and died with him. Dr. Ford represented what Westworld once stood for: Philosophical dialogue, intriguing, complex but likeable characters and crazy twists. And without him, Westworld turned out to be only a shell of its former greatness.
That’s not an unpopular opinion, it’s the prevalent one by far lol
100% agree and it is so sad..
More like fact.
The writing enabled his performance. The writing after season 1 is 💩
The first season was that of legend. Idk what happened and that’s the thing with tv shows. They capture lightning in a bottle then it gets loose afterwards. Other shows are the opposite. First season can be slow then in the following seasons it picks up. Stranger things is an example. First season: phenomenal. 2nd was mediocre at best. 3rd was better but still not there. Then they came with season 4 that was amazing.
An Oscar winner and Oscar nominee at their best, on a TV show no less. What a time to be alive.
Hopkins at his fn best. Ed harris at his best.
lhy2209 four time oscar nominee no less (Ed Harris) I can't believe he hasn't one yet!
I hope Hopkins wins an Emmy for his performance in this show.
God, Man and The Devil walk into a bar......I swear I have heard this one somewhere before. Did not expect to see it on Westworld.
This doesn't look like anything to me.
"Far be it for me to get in the way of a voyage of self discovery" HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TEDDY'S VOYAGE TO SELF DISCOVERY. Holy shit
MIB's presence at the cemetery was essential for Dolores to wake up to sentience again, so I think Ford was talking about her as well. Maybe he was talking about all hosts. It makes you think, how in the end everything the MIB was doing was part of Ford's plan, and he had no idea
@@nosoros because he is a host too
@@tiagoassasins7690
No he is Human
Meris he is a host you need to watch season two ending
@@atiqaly6567
I did, that takes place in the far future after he's been copied into a host body
"I always felt this place was lacking a true villain...hence my humble contribution," said the Devil.
God smiled, knowing that the true villain, the one that would be revealed soon, was Man himself.
God was vengeful in his youth.
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Respect dude. It's just so funny the one person who though he was playing the game was just another piece for the player
"No theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined."
Everything in this scene is just fantastic. I can't praise it enough. These two veteran actors with such impressive roles...one essentially playing God and the other playing the Lucifer of this tiny world. The music at 0:36, quietly highlighting the gravitas of this meeting. Two titans drinking whisky and essentially sparing with each other. Quietly flexing their power. How from 2:00 Ford holds all the cards, knowing that the Man in Black is on a wild goose chase and doing nothing to dissuaded him. Giving away nothing when asked questions. And then from 3:11 how the Man in Black makes it clear that Ford is just the side-kick to the parks true genius...Ford's partner. Before mentioning the finances that keep Ford's world alive. Finishing with a demonstration of Ford's power of the hosts with the protection algorithms, with that sly smile at 3:58 - meaning he knows he's effectively invincible. And is then able to pickup the knife completely unopposed. It's all fantastic!
Wait, what are you doin here Womble? Ain't you got a business with Cyanide?
Btw, it's amazing to know that you had a great opinion regarding acting and likes movies and TV shows.
whilst I read this and think "damn he's got a point " when I watch this clip all I can do is sit in awe, to this giants of pure talent that can convey a concise essay within minutes.... I am but a mite to these giants, and it's a pleasure to know I'm sharing this moment with the likes of you SW
Season 1 was fantastic. Now get back to finishing Arma Bullshittery.
I did not expect you here, But I'm glad to see you here
"Hey it's Womble!"
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object...
They pass through each other
Rez They give up.
they negate
they write a youtube comment about it
They post a reply to that comment and the replies after that...
Damn, you don't feel power like that anymore. Not even in the movies.
Remember when big name Hollywood stars wouldn't be caught dead doing shows? Pirating movies hurt theaters so bad it ushered in a new TV golden age.
There is nothing wrong with tv. These days I prefer tv over movies. TV now has all the better acting. Can you honestly imagine Hollywood doing justice with this?
C. Peters no, they're not. One of the reason why Westworld is so great is because it's so cinematic.
@@grapeape888 That depended on the actor. Ernest Borgnine was constantly in movies and TV. Bob Hope did both.
Oh you can thank Marvel for that
" i admit, i lack the imagination to even conceive of someone like you." fucking brutal line. i cant wait to use it.
At 1:40, Ford says "I admit I lack the imagination to even conceive of someone like you." The words indicate a compliment, but the look of amusement on his face betrays that what he really thinks is that the MIB is much too shallow and boring to be a character that he'd ever come up with. Next, the look on MIB's face shows us that he is confused, but that he can pick up on Ford's derision. This is acting at its very best!
It is quite similar to Lord Voldemort meeting Albus Dumbledore in Harry Potter and Half Blood Prince to apply for a teacher post ( in the book)
I think he meant he couldn’t conceive of someone so evil. Not boring.
@@Sandouras No, I watched it again and the OP is right. You can only pick up on it because these two are such incredible actors. Ford's chuckle while he says it implies sarcasm or belittling. Kind of how an adult would talk to a child when saying something that the child didn't quite understand. Williams reaction is that of confusion and inquisition, he's picking up that Ford is toying with him but he's also trying to listen closely to what Ford says next so he might gain some hint as to what Ford's real goal is.
Hey guys, remember when this show was a masterpiece? I know I do...
Yeah, it lasted for about a season (the first one). 🤓
When you cast anthony hopkins and ed harris you know it’s about to be a banger
As far as im concerned westworld ended after season 2, those two were complete masterpieces, everything after didnt happen
After season 1 buddy ^^ it ended after SEASON 1…
@@drowzeehypno9154 not even a hundred stars (as much as i love these guys) could have saved the subsequent seasons from dreadful writing and piled up cliches that replaced fresh and original ideas
3:34 When a troll player threatens the server host.
That's the best fuckin example anyone could ever come up with! Well suited!
looping thoughts except that troll player is also the publisher and majority shareholder
A host, troll, and mod walk into a bar
@Mcdicks explain
then the server host decides to punish the troll player by rigging the game to max difficulty.
4:20 I love how Ford hands the knife back to the MiB. A subtle way of showing that for all his ferocity and threats, Ford has all the power while inside the park.
who would have thought in a show filled with robots Cowboys and beautiful women , The best scene will be two old dudes having a chat in bar.
God I love this show
I'm a straight woman, so, to me, the fact that the best scene is between men is not so weird... I don't need beautiful women XD.
alguien1234 straight men do. Though I’m just here for Anthony Hopkins
@@youknowwhoiam2771 Anthony Hopkins eats babies and injects adrenochrome every day.
Let that sink in you dense shit fot brains tard NUGGET.
>who would have thought
I would have. 'Cause this is what makes any great sci-fi work so great.
Who would have thought in a show filled with robots, cowboys and beautiful women, that the best scene will be two old dudes having a chat in bar?*
Master Class in Acting .... and poor James Marsden's just sitting there.
Benjamin Jack Kata Finau nahhh, not poor James Marsden, more like lucky James Marsden, he gets the front row seat to watch this all go down and learn, and then do his part when it's required of him, nothing poor about that :)
_"Looking for a man named Wyatt. Killed a rancher back in Sweetwater."_
Shut up Teddy the grownups are talking!
I think he held his own. Takes a lot to contribute to a scene without saying much and just remaining in the background.
James Marsden is a great actor. His resume just isn't as vast as Anthony's or Ed's.
Benjamin Jack Kata Finau He's great at 3:39
God, the Devil and a man walk into a bar...
Yarrell but who is the devil and who is god, Ford is pretty fucked up himself
George Chase So is God.
Teddy is the only God at this table, the other two are just men.
Wow, how edgy, is your 12 year old mind happy now ?
Yes thats the title of the video,good job
I've watched this over and over to find some secrets. But I can't get over the acting. There is no better out there. These guys are teaching school here.
apachedisco He says "The world out there, the one you will never see, was one of plenty". I think that maybe they are not even on earth anymore. And that there multiple "worlds" that they now inhabit.
+Melvin Jose He didn't mean "one of plenty", as in one of many. He meant one of "plenty", as in that the world out there is gluttonous, hedonistic, unchallenged etc.
Dudey Boy oh ok. Thanks
Melvin Jose
no problem, I thought the same the first time around
This show has everything to do with the allegory of Lucifer and gnosicism. Obtaining free will through gnosis. The producer is even relatives of Aleister Crowley and the main actress also practices Gnosis in real life. Very intresting but this show has a VERY, VERY deep and slightly overt meaning if your able to widen your world view. Such a good show. I love when Delores reads the pale horse gnositc card, I meam it can't get anymore obvious.
I love that Ford basically gives Teddy an energy boost to get him going.
3 seasons in and this is still my favorite scene of the entire series. Hopkins and Harris are unmatched. And Marsden got a front row seat.
Epic acting and cinematography. Love the part where Ed Harris is talking and we can only see his hat, then a smooth transition to uncover his eyes again. Great show, really captivating.
I love that shot. His eyes suddenly coming into view really made that scene.
That deep, rumbling, calm voice of Ed Harris is so captivating along with his very wrinkled face and cold blue eyes. Such an understated and unsung character actor.
Hopkins showing some real User Power.
admin power hehe
wallycarrott
I hope that reference if from the original and not the terrible second one.
sudo restart
I see the Tron reference.
Okay if the theory that William is in fact the Man in Black (otherwise known as the multiple timelines), then I can completely understand his grudge towards Ford, Dolores, and especially Teddy. He'd be mad at Dolores for forgetting him, mad at Ford for allowing that to happen, and despise Teddy; because if you consider his role of keeping Dolores in her loop and the fact he's a carbon copy of William's chivalry towards Dolores, talk about adding insult to injury.
I believe the MIB is trying to free the host by using extreme violence and constantly telling them how their world is just a game. Every time one of them acted outside their loop a flashback of him acted as a catalyst.
Yarp, they set the groundwork nicely
dhump132 Strong insight! I believe that it how it works.
Intense emotion. 😈😇
This scene make such more sense and get a completely new meaning after episode 10 !
Let's just mention that James Marsden still holds up his own when in a scene with literal Gods of acting.
I would honestly say the first season of this show may have been the best ever and it should have ended there. It went from so amazing to so utterly bad
I disagree
Give it another chance. With all the timelines and storylines it's jar to follow but if you do it's absolutely amazing. S1 is game of thrones s1-4 level for me but WW S2 and 3 are also amazing once u rly get it
Season 1 was a masterpiece. But season 2, although confusing, reaches and answers many questions we had in season 1. And season 3, man, it seemed it was made by another production team... Let's hope they go back on track in the upcoming season 4...
@@LautaroTessi I dont have any hope for s4 after that awful s3...Hope im wrong.
@@usgpillarofark3980 seems like season 4 is bringing us back to the good days! give it a try
When you realize Ford low-key told MIB exactly what the centre of the maze is.
"Far be it for me to get in the way ... "
can you explain it?
@@keylanoslokj1806 it was a voyage of self discovery... But for the hosts, not for MiB/William.
@@DaviMourao true but in the next release, he made that special game suited for the mib.
@@DaviMourao And MiB is so self-absorbed that it never even occurred to him that Ford could've meant anything being for anyone but him
That was a host version of the MIB being fidelity checked in a far away future, not the MIB we see in the first and second seasons.
I wonder if James Marsden was like "Holy shit, I'm in a scene with Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins."
Dick Johnson he’s also shared scenes with sir Ian mckellen and sir Patrick Stewart. Guy is living the actors dream
More like Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins are thinking "Holy shit, I'm finally in a scene with James Marsden"
@@Beans360 “Oh shit, means I have a chance to steal his leading lady!”
@@Beans360haha true enough though he is a great artist
I missed it the first time; Ford was the one playing the piano as Teddy and MIB walked in.
I missed it after watching this scene for 5 times. Only your comment finally hinted me. I was so careless...
This show has everything to do with the allegory of Lucifer and gnosicism. Obtaining free will through gnosis, doesn't mean you have to believe it to understand it. The producer is even relatives of Aleister Crowley and the main actress also practices Gnosis in real life. Very intresting but this show has a VERY, VERY deep and slightly overt meaning if your able to widen your world view. Such a good show. I love when Delores reads the pale horse gnositc card, I meam it can't get anymore obvious.
Howard Johnson this shows that you keep putting the same comment on different replies & is very annoying
mmafyasco
I put it on three.
And after he leaves, the piano plays itself. A nice bit of foreshadowing...
Two legends, amazing scene. By the way, the moment when the good samaritan reflex kicked in, gave me goosebumps.
Ed Harris is a legend????
yes
Absolutely. Just look at his filmography. He is nominated for 4 oscars, etc,etc.
Ed Harris is a really really strong actor. The few movies i've seen with him allways surprised me with the acting.
it wasn't a "good Samaritan".
It's a shame how such a show spiralled down and was cancelled. S01 of Westworld is a masterpiece. And, so is this scene.
Season 1 was pure beauty and philosophy. Everything after that was fodder for the masses.
A shame what happened to this show. S1 was a masterpiece.
@@usgpillarofark3980 aaron paul didnt save it?
@@monsterzero9456 His charater was very dull. Maybe he'll get better in S4 i mean Aaron Paul is a great actor he deserves better writing.
@@usgpillarofark3980 yeah his bi-racial in-show daughter ruined it
season 4 is brilliant. reminded me of season 1 honestly. just mindblowing
Cheat code at the end
hahaha. True.
thats so cool seeing it after youve finished the series
Khandar William whats the cheat code...dont get the reference...i suck...
Woah.
+Theclaw Yaww yeah and what human being could just look at a host and make them do whatever without speaking at them?
What a masterpiece of a scene..on top of the wonderful acting , you don't even realize when the whole salon froze..your eyes and ears are in full focus.
Nothing beats season 1.. nothing ever will.
Yeah, I just started Season 2 and it's nowhere near as good as Season 1. Although I imagine it would be hard to top such a masterpiece...
I bet you both changed your minds after rewatching season two. Akane no Mai and Kiksuya?
Actually you can see the man on the background slightly move his head on 1:55
🔥
I don't know if it's a coincidence or increadible foresight, but MIB says Teddy will never see the world outside and he's right, he never left the part.
i love how dr ford quotes MIB himself saying "voyage of self discovery". when william is pitching the park to delos. the attention to details are amazing in this show.
this scene is much better than entire season 3
And 2
Actually
@@agb8764 I think it's not that bad if you compare it with season 3
Why do people hate S3 so much
@@trundionmidwayer270 season 1 and 2 are good but season 3 is not that good...
POV: You're running around Disneyland, beating up Mickey, Minnie and Goofy, and causing general mayhem. You stop for a milkshake - and Walt Disney shows up to ask you what the gosh darn heck you think you're up to...
3:56 Behind the Man in Black you can see, out of focus, another host about to come to Ford's aid.
This scene means so much more In retrospect than it does in the context it was presented.
You realize the only reason Ford was there was to check and see if whatever the hell William was up to was going to screw with his own carefully laid plans. As William was talking all tough and trying to be intimidating, Ford was sitting there deciding whether or not to have him killed (with a simple gesture). He was the one wild card that might pose a threat. And when he finds out that not only do they kind of want the same thing, but William is going about it by chasing a mirage into a dead end, he's like "Yeah! Sure. More power to ya. Here, let me give you a hand."
why chasing a mirage though. in what sense?
@@keylanoslokj1806 chasing Wyatt to the maze
@@keylanoslokj1806 ..for the lack of a sense of purpose
You're right. William is an idiot.
4:06 well shit, Robert even told MiB what is this "maze". I'm truly astonished by this writing
If you look at how William character ended up, self destructing his life it seems like Ford pitied him and wanted to help him. He even said to William if you want to know all you had to do was ask, but William is so arrogant insults Ford and said only Arnold knew the truth. If William represents us humans I can see why Ford has no faith in humanity, here is a man who has everything in life but can't accept reality because of his own mental fragilities it is pathetic.
@@maragathm
Which reality ?
This one where we are not better or more particular that piles of some scraps programmed with complex algorithms ?
He insults ford, because he knows in one hand, he knows that behind his honeyed politeness, this one always despised him and because he knows despite the god-complex of Ford, the "real" genius of their scientist pair was "Arnold".
William has just wanted to believe there was a meaning behind this stupid theme park and these hosts so terribly human-like we could be foiled by them.
I don't see what is pathetic.
He had "everything" in the life, you say ? Ha Ha Ha ! Just because he has well-filled bank account and is respected by a bunch of assholes ? Ridiculous, at best.
@@maragathm
William is not arrogant. Ford is. And Hale also in another way with his band of Delos executives.
@@maragathm
without forget Logan.
@@maragathm
and the bunch of retarded who pay to waste their time to kill and fuck hosts.
is the piano playing extra fast to catch up to "real time" at the end? If so, thats a pretty rad little detail.
whats the name of the song? it's also in "Evil Within"
Clair de lune by Claude Debussy
my take is Ford's words invigorated those nearby
That is a pretty rad little detail to catch. Well done sir weather it be true or not, I like your imagination!
No, it's just a completely different song
“This place was missing a real villain..hence my humble contribution “ the way he delivered that line..he IS main antagonist in both Westworld universe and the series, just love the double takes on his comment..
sudo teddy health = 120%
"Well if you're looking for the moral of the story you could simply ask"
"I'd need a shovel"
Foreshadowing for digging up the centre of the maze.
This show has so many layers I can't even begin to understand it
I love Ed Harris. Such a good actor, this rugged character suits him so good.
So Cyclops, Hannibal Lecter and John Glen walk into a bar....
Dude, 'Dave Moss'....
Oh, c'mon. Ed was both.
Cyclops!!! I knew I recognized that actor xD
Fabisch Factor Prince Edward too, I watch enchanted to much, I've been dreaming of true loves kiss
I'm just some Canadian guy and I say No. Jack Lime, Odin, and a German sniper walk into a bar...
This is by far one of the best scenes of any movie or TV series. I honestly hope HBO and the creators can retain Hopkins and Harris for season 2; what they have done with these brilliant characters and the story is absolutely intoxicating.
Sadly, one of the worst writing mistakes was retaining Hopkins for season 2 IMO. I love the guy but it cheapens his grand plan immensely to have him all over the place later, even if it's just inside someone's head.
@@jerodast Yeah, not a fan of the cameo in season3 just to throw fans a bone. It's all kind of moot now that HBO has cancelled a captivating show right before the season finale.
Bad move HBO; titties and dragons only get you so far. Not that I'm disappointed with the Hot D, I thought season 1 was great, and I'm glad they focused on dialogue and not spectacle. Dragons must be used sparingly.
They need to wrap up Westworld somehow, because us fans of the show, as small as we may be, are still watching other HBO content. They could wrap up the series in one or two episodes. It's a crime to cancel a show that had a set 5 season arc after the 4th season.
This scene is every bit on par with the De Niro - Pacino scene in Heat in terms of the sheer quality of acting
Funny part of this scene is that Ford didn't even say why he was there he just sat down and MiB just automatically started monologuing.
3:05 love how he just lowers his head the exact amount that you can still see his eyes twitch under the hat brim.
This whole conversation has SUCH a deeper meaning after watching S3E4. Westworld writers do it again; wow I love this show.
What S3E4 ?
Sounds like nothing to me.
ANALYSIS.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
Looking back at this scene now in 2023 I don't think anyone at the time figured out quite the significance of what Westworld was all about, it was so cryptic in its approach...sheer genius scripting and writing.
We are the robots and they're mocking us.
"And what is that, exactly?"
There's the generic way to deliver a line like that... and there's the way Sir Anthony Hopkins does it.
Hopkins is extraordinary and deserved the Emmy nomination. But Harris is easily as good should of gotten one too.
Anthony Hopkins and Clair De Lune, destined for Success
I love Anthony Hopkins
same
I didn't know I missed Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris so much!
Till he eats up...
Me too 😍 he is my favorite
When Anthony started playing Clair de Lune, my heart was taken. He's a great musician. :)
I don't think he's actually playing. You only see hands.
@@rogerwilco2 It might be him, he does play the piano: ua-cam.com/video/jbRMR8BbKwQ/v-deo.html
At 4:05, Ford says, "On the contrary, far be it for me to get in the way of a voyage of self-discovery." This answers MIB's question: what lies in the center of the maze is the nature of the self.
So, Delos bought WW because they heard about Arnold(through Will), that he somehow found a way to transcend his physical form, and Delos thinks it's the key to immortality. That would be a pretty big motivator for the financial side. That's my theory so far anyway!
Man season 1 was so good. So much potential. What a shame.
im actually a huge fan of season 3 so far. curious, what don't you like about it?
Yes I am with you, such a shame, perfect to garbage so fast. I miss ford.
@@creativedegree I don't know about season 3, but they lost me in season 2 with the whole "viva revolution, rise up, kill all humans" shtick. Got boring fast.
@@Supreme_Court. I wouldn't have minded a little viva la revolution. Just thought, the way season 2 did it was sort of boring. It felt like it wasn't really adding up to something; just continuing the stories of all the established characters, like a game.
So agree
Watching masters of their craft in action
James Marsden must have been thinking just sitting there and watching Hopkins and Harris go at it: "I´m the luckiest man in the world right now"
This is the scene of the show so far. Incredible acting and foreshadowing.
"Far be it from me to get in the way of a voyage of self discovery"
That is some mighty fine foreshadowing!
This is as legendary as Al Pacino's and Robert De Niro's coffee shop scene in Heat, if not even better.
Do either of them order a Dunkachino?
The music score makes this even better !
Nikola Andjelic Ikr, I am dying to get this soundtrack!
Claude Debussy - Clair De Lune, you're welcome
Ahmed Abukhdir Thats what he plays at the beginning , before the conversation ...
Reveries (Westworld OST)
The best tv score of all time imho
Everything down to Ed Harris' blink at :45 is masterfully understated.
i havent given this show a chance yet. but this acting is incredible...
💯💯
Stop qith season 1
Haven't seen this scene since the series ended but watching it knowing the whole story makes it even better. Now you can see the deeper meaning in the conversation that explains both motivations.
3:58 "You're just another guest" face
God, the Devil, and James Marsden.
Alec Jones CYCLOPS
I wonder what would've happened if the roles of cyclops and wolverine were reversed. Wolverine was shorter than cyclops in the comics
No he's the EASTER BUNNY from Hop!
Yeah, real wolverine grew horizontally, not vertically.
Alec Jones *an X-men
3 scenes.....this scene, the sit down with the Theresa for lunch, and when he kills Theresa and has the peacock speech, this acting is simply not seen on TV, Hopkins is fucking gold
Oh my god Anthony Hopkins. Every single thing he says has the most perfect cadence ever...can there be an Oscar for the actor who uses pauses in speach the best? Weird thing to get obsessed by but...christ its all i can pay attention to now.
I think this scene greatly explains how fanboys can get so caught up in searching for meaning in their favorite pieces of media that when it doesn't quite fit their bill they become flustered by it yet still feel entitled to fulfillment.
I can't believe the show veered so hard off the rails in season 3. It's really sad.
the story was complete at the end of season 2. everything else was just extra, for audience who didn’t really know what they were watching.
god, Anthony Hopkins and handful others carried Hollywood with the new days.
Anthony Hopkins .... what a legend. Hollywood 'stars' of today could learn much from a GREAT actor
Finding deeper meanings in a voyage of self-discovery :)
This is when dialogues and script comes to share a part of the individual spectator. Westworld is a new level of television :)
Agree! I noticed that a lot in the 1st season. There was a lot of criticism to "cheap" content on the entertaiment industry, you know like the storylines created by Lee Sizemore for example, as opposite to the ones created by Ford that had a deeper meaning and at the very least compelled you to use your brain
I like this show, Hopkins and Harris truly are class acts.
I will be sad when the class acts such as these are no longer.
I honestly couldn't believe that I was watching a TV show. Most big movies nowadays don't even have this level of acting and writing in them, and we're getting it from an TV series? Oh my...
I'm not gonna lie, when I saw that Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris were going share the same scene, I genuinely got excited.
What a great scene, two legendary actors and a walking, talking prop named James Marsden
55meds but he's a very, very pretty prop!
That's a stupid and hurtful comment. James might not be a legend but he's a good actor nonetheless
isn't this a rare honor teddy you know who this
it's anthony hopkins
The first line of the Clair de Lune poem (the poem that the piano song is based upon) is "Your soul is like a landscape fantasy". For Ford and the man in black, this rings especially true as they both revel in this fantasy world.I don't believe the song choice was unintentional.
Also, Ford is imperfectly playing the song at the beginning.. A host would be doing it perfectly or much better.
Ford always maintained there would be those who can’t, or simply won’t, change. William never changed. Even William’s ‘facsimile’, created by Halores, was incapable of change. I can’t remember why this is important but, it is.
One of the best scenes in tv history. In my opinion of course
Before they stretched it out into some bullshit dystopian fantasy
Man they left to an old man carried all of this in his back, Anthony Hopkins clearly carried the whole show of it
One of my favourite scenes in the show so far. Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins in the same scene = epicness
I remember when I hadn't watched the show yet and I stumbled on this clip. It was interesting watching this scene without context. Very Lynchian.
West world season 1: listen we’re going for deep meaning show
West world season 3: wtf is going on
I love this scene looking back. William is a host. Programmed to think he’s the owner of the park. That he’s a normal human. But he’s not. He’s the trap that will be sprung on humanity. A perfect copy
exactly. when he told teddy “everything good and rotten” etc, this is who you have to thank. ford toasted william. william is one of the villains in teddy story. ford is responsible for that. he’s definitely a host.
Such an amazing show, but this scene oh my lawd!!! The acting, the intimidation, the tension is so chilling, James Marsden really killed it in this scene.
lol
I just noticed. Ford plays a nice classical piece as they enter and he hears The Man in Black mock his creation and Ford says his character "betrays a certain anxiety." And as Ford leaves he snaps his fingers and a hokey extremely fast paced song plays. As if he's mocking The Man in Black and telling him to hurry along. Hurry on to your maze. Total Alpha love watching these two. I had hoped Teddy would grow perhaps from this scene but he became a lapdog in season two. I'm glad for season 1.
MIB is talking about Rehoboam to teddy in this scene
Just watching this scene is incredible. Two giants.