Guys, the point of this video is not WHY is Garam not there. We know why. The point is the caption, how do you think Garam feels being cropped and edited out. My opinion:I think she's probably realllyyy proud of her friends. But I also would imagine she's incredibly hurt- she worked just as hard as them. And she deserves to be there with them. A 'mistake' she made as a literal child destroyed her life. 💔
Just stop it! why would you care how a bully feels that she got cropped out from the video? What's the point of wondering how she feels anyway? It's not like anything will change.
@@Krishna_7791 Stop lying. There's no proof that she's innocent, it's just fans trying to "debunk" things. She received Degree 5 disciplinary action from the school! How do you even call that innocent if it was degree 5??
She's not part of the company anymore nor don't have any contract. Including her on the documentary will need her consent. Though I understand the frustration, me myself felt sad about this but this is reality..
Correct. it's illegal to include garam in the video because he has left the agency and has no contract with hybe. while haruka is still a hybe trainee & still under a hybe trainee contract. and most likely she will join ILAND2. that's why she is not blurred. cause if she left the agency like garam, she definitely wouldn't be in the video / her face would be blurred.
@@RichGoTech wdym? this video uploaded when she was leave the group. even tho she’s still in the group when this video was taken, HYBE STILL CANT INCLUDED GARAM IN THIS VIDEO CAUSE SHE HAS NO CONTRACT & LEFT THE COMPANY. as example, if you watch a video when idol doing a trip and there’s so many people around there, all the company should blurred their face cause they can’t included them in the video WITHOUT A PERMISSION. so if hybe want to include garam in this documentary, THEY MUST GOT A PERMISSION FROM GARAM & PARENTS CAUSE SHE’S HAS NO CONTRACT WITH HYBE & ALREADY LEFT THE COMPANY. understand?
@@gracilliaainsley2217 then that other girl was also not a member of lesserafim but why was she shown? I don't remember her name but she was going to be a part of the group but couldn't at the last moment
since she isnt apart of the company anymore, hybe legally cant show her face in the documentary. thats why her face is never in the frame. if they dont crop her face out, blur her face out, etc. garam could sue hybe and hybe doesnt want to get sued. people are saying hybe planned it so they cropped/blurred her face out ahead of time.
ikr i cant stand some of these garam stans istg 💀 i feel like theres no point of explaining why she cant be shown on the documentary but they would still say "yea but they could've just show some of her sides" MF NO- THAT WOULD MEAN THE CONTRACT WOULD BE BREACH AND HYBE COULD GET SUE??
Let garam in peace coz she still study at her school. If hybe post video le sserafim that garam in that video after terminate contract HATTERS & ANTIS will said : HYBE use garam for increasing marketing about LE SSERAFIM's comeback.
It's not about antis nd haters it's the marketing strategy... Ntg can be said that it's really a media play ... But still i just have a question 'didnt hybe know her past before her debut'? And I'm a neutral person not a hater
@@Yayaya_ya-j8l What are you even saying??! What Marketing strategy, what media play??! Garam WAS in the group and she had to be removed because of the pressure from the netizens. And for Garam's own mental peace. Where the hell is marketing or media play involved??! If anything, HYBE lost SO much money, reputation because of the whole controversy. Le Sserafim was literally being boycotted until Garam was removed. Y'all be making any random weird theory-
@@Orion22810 I'm not saying it's the truth... But it's my opinion with no hate! If I'm wrong please disagree me respectfully... And we can't really say what's the actual truth behind...
For those not caught up on the Garam case: This case was resolved 2 months ago when Garam released the full School Violence Committee Document (Eunseo, the "victim", had previously shown the public only the first 3 lines of the document). Turns out the person who called themselves the "victim" (we call her Eunseo) and said she got bullied by Garam was actually Garam's friend in middle school, but they decided to stop being friends because Eunseo kept talking behind all of her friend's backs. Eunseo was salty she lost all of her friends and decided to hack into an ex-friends Facebook account (to make it look like it wasn't her who did this) and post pictures of another ex-friend (12 y/ o at the time) where they were only wearing their underwear. This was very traumatic for the girl whose pictures were posted because she still had to attend school after students saw her half naked so she called Garam and asked for help. Garam tried to reach Eunseo,but she wouldn't pick up so frustrated Garam cursed a couple of times over text and when they eventually met up Garam coursed and yelled at Eunseo some more and asked her to delete the photo and apologize. Eunseo later went to the schools violence committee and asked them to punish Garam for the cursing over text and Garam got the Iv15 punishment (most common punishment in her school). It was never bullying, because before that incident they were literally friends. Oh yeah and also, to avoid punishment, Eunseo transferred schools and then continued to spread rumours about Garam in the new school. So yeah, Garam's career got ruined by a jealous person and a former (fake) friend who couldn't stand to see Garam achieve her dreams. If you wanna read the SVC document, here's the link: twitter.com/oncemimosa /status/1557479971052048384?t= Ax61xNOSisxuGWDa4F9NsA&s=19 Also this document is helpful if you wanna read more about the case: docs.google.com/document /d/108cJs2GeHfWbn919 -yzMEYvkXMJA3UExd7aH67skXaY/edit?usp= drivesdk Edit: There has also been a website made to make it easier to access all the information on the case. sites.google.com/view/garam -scandal/home
@@bubblesbubbles7988 2 protagonists with equal power fight = conflict 1 dominating person abusing (physically, psychologically or verbally) a weaker person is bullying.
its just business things. SM even removed all Jessica's 7 years achievement in SNSD 15 years Anniversary. we never know behind the camera. i believed some of them even still reaches Garam someway.
@@unknowngirl8243 She was kicked out of her group(Lesserafim) because of bullying accusations which turned out to be fake. Netizens are sooo heartless that they could really cyberbully a teen without knowing the truth behind it💔
@@celestial._.celinee I get that people who were following them since ot6 are sad. But you all have to face the fact that she's not in the group anymore. There's 2 things that would prevent them from releasing the documentary with her. First, it's not legally correct. They could be sued since they used her face and name for a documentary they don't have a legal contract on. Second, it would definitely spark controversies again and theories. the issue wouldn't have died down had they released the documentary with garam in it.
@@celestial._.celinee Well they can because before they upload a video with Garam, they need Garam's permission first since Garam is not a part of hybe anymore. I think they decided to just edit her out.
Imagine youre the adult editor and you know youre stabbing a girls dream of being an idol in a group by cropping her out. Damn. All her idol memories are all painful now. Young girl dont deserve this. Even Netflix serial killers gets love. What a cruel world
@@iambarryallen you can't blame the editor he was ordered by HYBE also I saw somewhere that Garam can sue HYBE if they put her in the video since she is no longer part of group or company overall it's just business things that's how companies work 😔
The editor prolly felt bad but it's their job. If not edited out garam could use it against hybe legally. Also, netizens would be in uproar saying hybe used garam for marketing. So the thing is, what hybe did here is the best choice and the right one. The avoided taking risks that might affect the grp and the label.
I feel so sorry for her she got to fulfill her dream but her dreams were ruined by the "victim" who was actually the real bully who became her "friend" but then betrayed Garam and Garam's actual friend. Yes it's true that Garam got a level 5 punishment but why did she got the punishment? it's because she just freakin cursed at the real bully. And also the bully secretly took a picture of Garam's true friend who was naked and hybe officially said it but the "fans" decided to ignore it until Garam said the same thing on a letter but with more evidence on her friend's insta account. The bully also got a punishment and (I think it was level 9?) but they just focused on Garam's level 5 punishment, but remember Garam and her friend weren't the only victims. But Garam forgived the bully and they became friends but what did the bully do? She betrayed Garam. And also Eunseo was attempted su*c*de(idk I only saw this somewhere) not because she was bullied but because of the hate she received when she accused Garam, (I'm not really sure about her attempting tho). Some of y'all saying that why would I believe a stranger then what about Eunseo? why would you believe her in the first place when she is also a stranger, the accusation was strange because why would the victim say that but if it was her friends then I would believed the "bully" but fortunately I did not because I learned my lesson from Mina&Jimin, Soojin and Woojin
But I don't think she should debut as a kpop idol, I'm not saying this because I hate her(infact I love her) but because I'm sure she was traumatised from all the hate she got and if I was in her place I would not go out of my house and will probably stay in my bed 24/7. But I do want to see Her comeback saying she is happy, healthy and is already enjoying her life
Yess we want garam to move on if we would like to debute as a solo artist we all will support her She had nicee voice which i wanted to hear from after hearing their debute songs
I hope she has a nice life out there. Whether she is innocent or not, the truth will appear one day in the future. What is important now is to move on and live a life as happy as possible.
I know she couldn't be in this documentary but it would have been interesting to see what it was like behind the scenes from debut to when the allegations surfaced, then when she was removed. That kind of thing would never be shown but it would be very interesting. I always wonder what happened with Garam, just like I wonder what happened with Soojin from (G)I-DLE.
That’s what I thought too. When I heard a documentary was coming out I hoped they would talk about it (tho I knew they wouldn’t I still hoped). Cause that’s what people really wanna see. If you’re gonna release a documentary then I feel like you should show everything not just the parts that are pretty and nice
@@pjm875 it isn't illegal, it just opens up potential grounds for a lawsuit. Garam's lawyers could argue that they're profiting off of her image without properly compensating her, and depending on how well they did arguing that and what HYBE/Source lawyers presented as their counterargument, they may or may not end up having to pay her a portion of the profits. it's also likely her parents wouldn't want her appearing in anything else moving forward, because it'll just keep the controversy brewing and make it harder for her to continue school and start a career later. so it's possible that this wasn't just a matter of editing her out to avoid lawsuits, but also that her parents requested her to be edited out.
@@pjm875 calling it illegal is going to greatly confuse people and think that someone at HYBE could face charges or jailtime. that's not how it works. this is about HYBE limiting liability and covering their ass in case of lawsuits, not following the letter of the law.
people need to realize that garam is not in hybe anymore, so they can't use garam footage. also these 5 girls just starting their career, bullying is sensitive topic, put garam part just make it worse for the girls
I feel like they should've at least kept her in the documentary. Cuz if they wanted the documentary to be real and honest, they should've included Garam.
they rlly do! first says garamout with hastags in every le sserafim post and when they learned she's not the bully they switch up so fast like they were always on her side 💀💀 that's why I was neutral from the beginning, cuz most of the kpop idol bullying case happens out of jealousy
@@jiminonfloor exactly! like the aoa jimin and mina thing?? everyone was at jimin's throat until the truth was revealed. ppl need to learn how to stay neutral and keep their noses out of things that don't involve them.
@@wiwayale1559 i dont remember much about the situation anymore. i just remember that suddenly, the tables turned on mina. dispatch revealed texts proving that mina made everything up. as far as i know, mina's been kinda quiet. i haven't heard much about her since. and jimin released a song. the whole situation is fricked up. i biased both of them so the whole thing really broke my heart 😭
That's really painful, but I think it would be one of her best moments in life because she happen to experience what she dreamt of even just for a little time.
Everyone knows why she isn't there. To think how Garam would feel, I think she would feel so hurt and also sad. She worked hard just as the other girls although she had done something that is not good in the past. I think the bad thing to be an idol is that you cannot be forgiven easily with the mistake you make or made.
Y'all are surprised by this? I am Monbebe and Wenee and let me tell you I spent the whole Monsta X movie angry because they edited Wonho out perfectly. The magic of editing can definitely do this (and without any weird conspiracy theories that say that she was meant to leave even before they debuted)
you guys are dumb? there are contracts, and if a person is no longer part of the group the company is legally obliged to cut off the former member's parts.
Imagine training so hard for your debut that when the documentary comes out they cut you out of the viewer's eye, they detract from all your work, poor Garam, she deserves better, and I hope she's okay now
@@yaymilko Sued? why? for putting a former member who gave all her effort to debut, who was possibly happy to see the documentary, and that in the end she was removed from the group, and to top it off cut from the documentary in which she would show that she worked very hard
@@naeunleftgofficial because she wili not be getting paid anymore!!! Why are people finding it hard to understand? Are you sure you don't just want someone new to hate?
Imagine editing out all the progress and hardwork of a young girl because of a fake rumour 💀💀💀 I know she's not in the company but at least they could have asked for her consent to be in the documentary
I’m really glad I never partook in the bullying and wanting Garam out. I was in the middle, but now that the truth is out. I wonder, Just how many times has this happened to idols? I’m always hearing scandals left and right that dates back way into middle school and high school. It’s crazy. There was Hyujjin from StrayKids too. My god. I hope Garam is doing okay. She’s only 16. Only able to live her dream for 2 weeks. :(
Let's just not talk about garam anymore,I understand why the company cropped her out but if we keep talking about her the scandal will be going on and on and not end,if we just give garam peace she will hopefully recover from this
Ya’ll Garam stans should really leave the girl alone💀 She is finally happy again and preparing to apply to uni(?), one of her friends said that. Don’t ya’ll think it’s bad for her that you keep posting clips and pictures of the life she no longer has?
Yes happy again after getting bullied to the point her mother feared she would take her life, "leave her alone" why didn't y'all do that when she was getting bullied online?
@@beomoa15 i didn't bully her, don't even try to blaming me for something i haven't done. I'm just saying a bunch of people have an unhealthy obsession with her, she is not a celebrity anymore and probably wishes to live like her friends now, in private.
Deep down I actually wanted atleast they put garam in the documentary, cus its the part of their process and experience during debut days, they still had so much memories tgt tho 🥲
@@youngmoney1346 yes there’s ben evidence. y’all be asking for proof but won’t bother to read to school violence documents. it says she got lv 5 for cussing at the “victim” for taking naked pics of her friend while changing and posting them online. a lv 5 in garam’s school isn’t based on severity and was the most common given out while the “victim” was supposed to get a lv 8 but transferred before she could get it. bullying is ALWAYS one sided. i would know trust me. garam didn’t bully anyone
If Garam was already punished in the past for "bullying" a schoolmate, then I don't get the need to bring up the issue again since she was already punished accordingly. Now Garam is stripped off her dream of becoming an idol and her life ruined. That doesn't make the "victim" any different from Garam when she "bullied" her in the past.
Garam is innocent even her official school document says no violence or bullying and she was verbally defending a friend against a fake victim who took half naked photos of Garam's friend and posted them online. .
I think stans tend to forget how Garam was a part of all the struggles lesserafim went through as shown in the documentary and how hard she had to work to debut just for it all to come crashing down because everyone went on the hate train and kept demanding to kick her out without ever waiting for actual confirmation of her situation and when she turned out to be innocent, everyone ignored her. Can't even imagine how she must've felt seeing everything that included her all to just never exist.
I miss Garam so so sooooo much😢😢…. I was so excited when I heard abt lesserafim debut.When I first saw the members I just fell in luv with their style,music and personality I liked all the members but garam was my bias. When I heard that she was kicked out from the group trust me I cried my heart out😭😭 When I was reading abt the case I felt so angry at that Eunseo!Eunseo was just so jealous of her (garam) achieving her dreams that she put all those false accusations on her 😢😢😢 I will forever miss and luv garam😕
Now imagine how much hate the remaining members would get if she had been shown in the documentary. What happened with Garam sucks. But my focus is on the well being and growth of the members of Le Sserafim aka Chaewon, Sakura, Yunjin, Kazuha, and Eunchae.
the way y’all are painting the rest of the girls as victims is really rubbing me the wrong way. yes, they all worked hard and image of the group would have been ruined if garam stayed in the group but they aren’t victims, garam is. they still get to stay in their group and achieve their dreams while garam doesn’t. the girls don’t get hate, garam does.
It was people who hated on her.. that makes the company do her like this.. we all know she debut as centre visual of the. Group.. honestly she's a gem for hype but. .. the people who hated on her makes this happened 😖
I mean how can they crop a video so damn talented!! She's a part of Fimmies from the start. She debuted with them and a Documentary isn't what they film. It should be honest from the deepest and bottom heart. How can they ignore her completely like that. We want to see her saddest part, he hardships and her hope!! KIM GARAM😭i miss you I Love You❤
I don't think an entertainment company would be stupid enough to kick someone talented out of the group just because some bunch of wannabe detectives made these baseless statements who knows how deep this story might be..just saying maybe there was something problematic about her.
No they obviously had to because of the pressure. They tried so hard to defend her but everyone was boycotting them and slandering the whole group so they had to sacrifice her to save the other 5, as unfair as that sounds. They did their best and she did her best holding on too, but we never know she might also have wanted to stop everything because of all the hate, bullying and death threats she received. It’s nit then being stupid, it’s them looking out for the good of the company overall. They can’t keep losing money and reputation, especially when they have so many groups under them.
@@wiwayale1559 it is not the first case we have seen in many bullying cases in kpop industry idols usually come back after short break they could have done the same kicking her out of the group was unnecessary these companies are evil and just after money..the whole group got a lot of attention thanks to the rumour and now they are one of the most popular groups...just believing that a company would just kick a member out like that is stupid most of the groups have a lot of content and songs recorded an entire corrperation won't reschedule everything for just a single idol..
@@tamanna9718 while it’s true that there were many such cases, this case got the most popular and it was huge in Korea. The amount of pressure was insane,and it became even harder to keep her or protect her because she doesn’t have a fanbase of her own like the other members. She was completely new to the scene so people treated her like a punching bag to relive their stress without considering that she is human even. Even Soojin had to leave despite nit being new, so I think it really depends on the public opinion, because there is no way a company would invest so much money on a kid just to throw her away so easily. They also need to get paid back for the money they spent on forming her right? So I think this had nothing to do with a conspiracy from them to ruin her life and gain from it. Especially since HYBE are traumatized from scandals about girl groups.
their whole situation is just unfortunate but the editing of the documentary was really good and made it look like they were only 5 from the beginning. it was hard to spot garam ngl
Imagine loosing everything because some stupid fans couldn’t research and just started hating on her without any proof that she actually bullied someone. I love you Garam 💗
@@missserenity1090 Whether you like it or not, Garam's out and is a commoner now. It'll be weird if the company still includes her when she's not signed anymore. The editors did a great job~
@@mr.a9696 Okay so why are you happy about that? It sounds like you’re happy she’s no longer in the group. So it sounds like you hate her. Obviously she’s not coming back but it sounds like you’re happy she’s gone. Do I need to simplify this further for you to understand? Also a “commoner”? Why would you use a word that that, just say that she’s no longer an idol (at least for now anyways). That is such a bizarre word to use to describe someone.
It’s also good she was cropped out, and people may not agree on this but Knetz might throw more hate if they see her there (which they did before even without fact checking). I understand her fans will be sad about this but it’s also better so she can start fresh soon.
Iam so disappointed in Hybe for these reasons 1.They didnt defend Garam for something she clearly didnt do 2.Hybe ruined Le sserafim's vocals by making songs that are too low for them causing them to be the most hated groups 3.Hybe puts New jeans into hiatus for no reason 4.In the survival show R U Next?they appoited judges that only cares about visuals and not talents.
How can we even blame hybe? Hybe tried their best to make the thing calm and easy but those stupid netizens were that wild and aggressive they made all those stupid shitty theories, dramatic stories. I knew it from the first that something is fishy and smelly i mean people were making it dramatic by saying like suicide,death threads etc etc. I mean so stupid ??? Hybe was calm they even said they need time but people were so hyped to kick garam out of the group. The fact they were hyped just because of some stupid fake theories, huh they Don't even tried to understand the whole thing from the back story. Huh..human mind...people made hybe nervous and anxious that's why as soon as possible hybe let garam out of the group. To made the situation calm. Cuz hybe was literally got blamed by fake theories like "garam is hybe's secret weapon" "garam is bang pd's daughter " 💀lmao netizens are so useless. After garam left the situation got a little calm. And finally the truth came out that she was innocent and now people turned their colours by "we want garam back" "our angel " "garam deserves better poor angel" really??? Wow i'm so shocked by how fast people turns their colour. Then why did you guys aggressively bark "kick garam out of the group" "pretty but she is a demon inside " "eunchae deserves better garam needs to get out" wow so good these are the same people who are now calling garam an "angel" "poor girl" making sad videos abt garam " wow so much sympathy.. Then why did you stupid peoples barked abt her even without knowing the truth?? Huh nah plz tell me.. Never judge a book by it’s cover literally came out true
You did not just defend Hype for doing actually bare minimum when it comes to their artists' health and reputation lmao. Literally a few days she was kicked, the case was solved so I don't think Hype did anything helpful
This is so cruel to her. Especially Source Music is doing this to Garam despite they themselves kept saying she is innocent. Also it’s their fault they ruined her life. They knew her past but still debuted her against everything just to trash her out.
but isnt that happens when someone’s not in the group/company anymore? in svt’s case their predebut member who left and now a private citizen even got his face blurred out by some fan edits bc like what i said earlier, he’s a former member and now a private citizen
To all those of you accusing Garam of bullying: 1. As much as she hasn't been proven innocent, there's also no solid proof of her being guilty. 2. None of us know the full story, so stop speculating because all the photos and media could easily have been manipulated. 3. We stan idols for their music and talent, not their personal background.
I remember when B.I get in scandal back then, he is cropped out from the program but i forgot the name of the program, anyway in that program has yeri from red velvet and him to explore living in the jungle or something similar like that. And all the scene that has him is all cropped out because of the scandal
Lmaoo they cropped her out because they know she’ll 100% sue them if they didn’t. I mean I would if I were her. They failed to protect her and they have the face to use her for clout? Nu uh.
SEE GUYS IT IS NOT THE COMPANY'S FAULT SHE IS NO MORE IN LESSERAFIM SO STOP SPREADING HATE ALSO GARAM CAN TAKE ACTION I GUESS IF THE USE HER PHOTOS SINCE SHE IS NOT IN THE COMPANY ANY LONGER...
Lets just be real yo. If noone picked sides and stayed neutral this situation wouldn’t even exsist. I have mixed feelings about the documentary sometimes im happy and sometimes im just feeling like damn this is messed up. But more so im happy cause Garam doesn’t have to go through all the hate anymore. Hybe is doing the right thing though i mean look wat happened when she appeared in the japanese promos even tho she was still signed people went nuts so yea. She’s studying and if she chooses to return to the kpop world good for her i wish her the best
Ikr. People nowadays can't just pick a side and complain a lot instead. If she's not removed, imagine how people will react and it will more unfair for her since she's not affiliated with any HYBE or Lesserafim anymore. I-netz that claimed as "better" version of fans is now not any less worse than knetz since many cyber bullying towards Garam is most from international fans actually
Imagine if Hype was competent enough to defend their idols and let them speak up gor themselves lmao. Literally a few days after she was kick out, the documents came out and we knew the truth. I really don't understand how the people in that company thinks 🙄
it's crazy how well they were able to edit le sserafim into always being a 5 member group, if someone only watched this they could be totally convinced
Suddenly my thoughts about Treasure :') yedam and mashiho on hiatus but yg cropped even edit to remove them from the old content 😭 the pictures are terribly edit at least don't make it it way too obvious.. You literally can see mashiho feet that they forgot to delete/erase.. Like what the point, they randomly posting old content like last year summer pictures but removing the members
When she going to debut she should know that one day the way she did to her school mate the society will payback to her how she bullied her schoolmates then how the society will treat her back
Part of me wonders if Hybe knew from the start and were preparing for the possibility of this happening. Like, if Garam was like, "hey, this is on my record. I'm not at fault, but I'm telling you now in case it comes up later." I don't know, cause Hybe put so much effort into this concept only to be far too ready to drop her when it came time. I'm probably reaching, but it feels like they made it way too easy to edit her out.
Yup, you're reaching.. pretty sure that they have more than enough clips to insert in the documentary and they just choose which are the clips that are easier to edit Garam out. They probably have these girls be on cam more or less 15-20hrs..
Hybe tried their best to keep her and defended her.. their statements are even the same when hybe and source music defended her. It’s a huge reach and makes no sense. Netizens ran with it and ruined her reputation sadly, not hybe. Netizens can be so fucking brutal, she’s only 16! And the switch up from “kick her out” to “keep her in the group”? That was bullshit too.. statements never changed from anyone. But if she were to stay in the group, they would be haunted by this and the other members don’t deserve to be dragged into it. It’s not their problem, they didn’t do anything either. A bully started this and netizens finished it for that bully. She will be remembered for this and that’s just messed up too.
I understand that we are sad that Garam is no longer a part of the group (I am really hurt by it), but I think the best thing we can do is forget she ever existed. 😭 (alexa this is so sad play hope not by blackpink)
Guys, the point of this video is not WHY is Garam not there. We know why. The point is the caption, how do you think Garam feels being cropped and edited out.
My opinion:I think she's probably realllyyy proud of her friends. But I also would imagine she's incredibly hurt- she worked just as hard as them. And she deserves to be there with them. A 'mistake' she made as a literal child destroyed her life. 💔
Just stop it! why would you care how a bully feels that she got cropped out from the video?
What's the point of wondering how she feels anyway? It's not like anything will change.
@@timaalo154 she’s not she found innocent
@@Krishna_7791 Stop lying. There's no proof that she's innocent, it's just fans trying to "debunk" things. She received Degree 5 disciplinary action from the school! How do you even call that innocent if it was degree 5??
@@timaalo154 her friend verified it that’s it
her face legally cant be shown in the documentary since she isnt in the company anymore. if they show her face she could sue.
She's not part of the company anymore nor don't have any contract. Including her on the documentary will need her consent. Though I understand the frustration, me myself felt sad about this but this is reality..
Correct. it's illegal to include garam in the video because he has left the agency and has no contract with hybe. while haruka is still a hybe trainee & still under a hybe trainee contract. and most likely she will join ILAND2. that's why she is not blurred. cause if she left the agency like garam, she definitely wouldn't be in the video / her face would be blurred.
But that videos nor event use is when Garam is still in the group. It is a factual event.
@@RichGoTech wdym? this video uploaded when she was leave the group. even tho she’s still in the group when this video was taken, HYBE STILL CANT INCLUDED GARAM IN THIS VIDEO CAUSE SHE HAS NO CONTRACT & LEFT THE COMPANY.
as example, if you watch a video when idol doing a trip and there’s so many people around there, all the company should blurred their face cause they can’t included them in the video WITHOUT A PERMISSION. so if hybe want to include garam in this documentary, THEY MUST GOT A PERMISSION FROM GARAM & PARENTS CAUSE SHE’S HAS NO CONTRACT WITH HYBE & ALREADY LEFT THE COMPANY. understand?
@@RichGoTech But the video released after she left right so they can't show her anymore.
@@gracilliaainsley2217 then that other girl was also not a member of lesserafim but why was she shown? I don't remember her name but she was going to be a part of the group but couldn't at the last moment
since she isnt apart of the company anymore, hybe legally cant show her face in the documentary. thats why her face is never in the frame. if they dont crop her face out, blur her face out, etc. garam could sue hybe and hybe doesnt want to get sued. people are saying hybe planned it so they cropped/blurred her face out ahead of time.
ikr i cant stand some of these garam stans istg 💀 i feel like theres no point of explaining why she cant be shown on the documentary but they would still say "yea but they could've just show some of her sides" MF NO- THAT WOULD MEAN THE CONTRACT WOULD BE BREACH AND HYBE COULD GET SUE??
Imagine how her bullying victims feel seeing ppl worshipping their bully. Ppl who still stan her after knowing her true colors are pathetic💅
We know you silly dumb
@@mysticluv030 the video publisher clearly didn’t goofy
Hybe planned the controversy? I had suspected same. It builds attention and news around their company. Kinda like NJ song Cookie. Marketing stuff
she probably feels upset. but at the same time, the company has no right to leave her in either. she doesn’t work under them anymore
Let garam in peace coz she still study at her school.
If hybe post video le sserafim that garam in that video after terminate contract
HATTERS & ANTIS will said : HYBE use garam for increasing marketing about LE SSERAFIM's comeback.
It's not about antis nd haters it's the marketing strategy... Ntg can be said that it's really a media play ... But still i just have a question 'didnt hybe know her past before her debut'?
And I'm a neutral person not a hater
but the sad thing is that thats true:(
@@Yayaya_ya-j8l What are you even saying??! What Marketing strategy, what media play??!
Garam WAS in the group and she had to be removed because of the pressure from the netizens. And for Garam's own mental peace.
Where the hell is marketing or media play involved??!
If anything, HYBE lost SO much money, reputation because of the whole controversy. Le Sserafim was literally being boycotted until Garam was removed.
Y'all be making any random weird theory-
@@Orion22810 I'm not saying it's the truth... But it's my opinion with no hate! If I'm wrong please disagree me respectfully... And we can't really say what's the actual truth behind...
We don’t even know if she is in school yet
For those not caught up on the Garam case: This case was resolved 2 months ago when Garam released the full School Violence Committee Document (Eunseo, the "victim", had previously shown the public only the first 3 lines of the document). Turns out the person who called themselves the "victim" (we call her Eunseo) and said she got bullied by Garam was actually Garam's friend in middle school, but they decided to stop being friends because Eunseo kept talking behind all of her friend's backs. Eunseo was salty she lost all of her friends and decided to hack into an ex-friends Facebook account (to make it look like it wasn't her who did this) and post pictures of another ex-friend (12 y/ o at the time) where they were only wearing their underwear. This was very traumatic for the girl whose pictures were posted because she still had to attend school after students saw her half naked so she called Garam and asked for help. Garam tried to reach Eunseo,but she wouldn't pick up so frustrated Garam cursed a couple of times over text and when they eventually met up Garam coursed and yelled at Eunseo some more and asked her to delete the photo and apologize. Eunseo later went to the schools violence committee and asked them to punish Garam for the cursing over text and Garam got the Iv15 punishment (most common punishment in her school). It was never bullying, because before that incident they were literally friends. Oh yeah and also, to avoid punishment, Eunseo transferred schools and then continued to spread rumours about Garam in the new school.
So yeah, Garam's career got ruined by a jealous person and a former (fake) friend who couldn't stand to see Garam achieve her dreams.
If you wanna read the SVC document, here's the link:
twitter.com/oncemimosa
/status/1557479971052048384?t= Ax61xNOSisxuGWDa4F9NsA&s=19
Also this document is helpful if you wanna
read more about the case:
docs.google.com/document
/d/108cJs2GeHfWbn919
-yzMEYvkXMJA3UExd7aH67skXaY/edit?usp= drivesdk
Edit:
There has also been a website made to make it easier to access all the information on the case.
sites.google.com/view/garam -scandal/home
none of these links work. they're just
re-directing me to random pages.
probably because maybe some the articles were deleted
Ohk
And the part where they’re looking at their videos you see eunchae resting her head on garams shoulder 💔
🥺😭💔
ok
Aw that's really sad.. its illegal to include Garam without her consent though, idk if they asked her and she said no
she worked so hard for her dream and had it taken away...
Garam was legit my bias.... geez... i truly wants to see her somewhere in the future becoming an idol, that girl legit got the idol aura
She got the mean girl bully aura
@@bubblesbubbles7988 update ur info gurl
@@aimsobored even if the othet party is a bully garam still is one too
@@bubblesbubbles7988 2 protagonists with equal power fight = conflict
1 dominating person abusing (physically, psychologically or verbally) a weaker person is bullying.
@@bubblesbubbles7988 acting like you never cursed out of anger before
Ok but Chaewon without bangs😫😫
without bangs and short hair DAMN
@@dprdenny YES OFMG
She don't deserve too much hate
its just business things. SM even removed all Jessica's 7 years achievement in SNSD 15 years Anniversary. we never know behind the camera. i believed some of them even still reaches Garam someway.
No one knows what actually went on between SM and sica, but one thing for sure is SM did Jessica dirty
@@marvlarcShe revealed the members and SM held a poll to kick her, for being unattended on practices and preoccupied with her fashion business.
She’s not apart of the group or the company anymore to avoid legal trouble they edited her out 🤷🏽♂️
but it dosen't change the fact she did work for that documentary😔 You can't just cut off her hardwork like that😢
Why she is not in group
@@unknowngirl8243 She was kicked out of her group(Lesserafim) because of bullying accusations which turned out to be fake. Netizens are sooo heartless that they could really cyberbully a teen without knowing the truth behind it💔
@@celestial._.celinee I get that people who were following them since ot6 are sad. But you all have to face the fact that she's not in the group anymore.
There's 2 things that would prevent them from releasing the documentary with her. First, it's not legally correct. They could be sued since they used her face and name for a documentary they don't have a legal contract on. Second, it would definitely spark controversies again and theories. the issue wouldn't have died down had they released the documentary with garam in it.
@@celestial._.celinee Well they can because before they upload a video with Garam, they need Garam's permission first since Garam is not a part of hybe anymore. I think they decided to just edit her out.
tbf the editors were very good imagine cropping an entire person in every shot and making it like a 5 member from the start, it must have been hard. 👌
imagine how the editor would feel...
Imagine youre the adult editor and you know youre stabbing a girls dream of being an idol in a group by cropping her out. Damn. All her idol memories are all painful now. Young girl dont deserve this. Even Netflix serial killers gets love. What a cruel world
@@iambarryallen you can't blame the editor he was ordered by HYBE also I saw somewhere that Garam can sue HYBE if they put her in the video since she is no longer part of group or company overall it's just business things that's how companies work 😔
I don't think the editor cared for garam they just did their job
The editor prolly felt bad but it's their job. If not edited out garam could use it against hybe legally. Also, netizens would be in uproar saying hybe used garam for marketing. So the thing is, what hybe did here is the best choice and the right one. The avoided taking risks that might affect the grp and the label.
@iambarryallen it's life man,u gotta move on,like ya they don't deserve but it's just a dream,like it's not gonna be the end,but other have it worse
i hope she continues being an idol.. she was a really great center and her voice is so pretty
Garam is the only one who can sing live on this group
Ot6 will be for me even though garam got kicked out I will always miss the ot6 never going to listen to haters sbout garam ❤
She's probably understood. I hope she's will move on 😔
Great editing by the editors
People who made this to Garam,please,live in a nightmare she's been through
i have to say their editing skills are amazing
Bro she should have never been kicked out she didn’t even do anything.
The documentary would have been 1000 times more powerful if they had addressed this whole bs situation. Garam deserves an apology
Ikr😔💔i feel sad for her hope she can debut again🙌
I feel so sorry for her she got to fulfill her dream but her dreams were ruined by the "victim" who was actually the real bully who became her "friend" but then betrayed Garam and Garam's actual friend. Yes it's true that Garam got a level 5 punishment but why did she got the punishment? it's because she just freakin cursed at the real bully. And also the bully secretly took a picture of Garam's true friend who was naked and hybe officially said it but the "fans" decided to ignore it until Garam said the same thing on a letter but with more evidence on her friend's insta account. The bully also got a punishment and (I think it was level 9?) but they just focused on Garam's level 5 punishment, but remember Garam and her friend weren't the only victims. But Garam forgived the bully and they became friends but what did the bully do? She betrayed Garam. And also Eunseo was attempted su*c*de(idk I only saw this somewhere) not because she was bullied but because of the hate she received when she accused Garam, (I'm not really sure about her attempting tho). Some of y'all saying that why would I believe a stranger then what about Eunseo? why would you believe her in the first place when she is also a stranger, the accusation was strange because why would the victim say that but if it was her friends then I would believed the "bully" but fortunately I did not because I learned my lesson from Mina&Jimin, Soojin and Woojin
But I don't think she should debut as a kpop idol, I'm not saying this because I hate her(infact I love her) but because I'm sure she was traumatised from all the hate she got and if I was in her place I would not go out of my house and will probably stay in my bed 24/7. But I do want to see Her comeback saying she is happy, healthy and is already enjoying her life
i dont want to say anything and lets just wish her for a better future. love my garam
Yess we want garam to move on if we would like to debute as a solo artist we all will support her
She had nicee voice which i wanted to hear from after hearing their debute songs
I hope she has a nice life out there. Whether she is innocent or not, the truth will appear one day in the future. What is important now is to move on and live a life as happy as possible.
I know she couldn't be in this documentary but it would have been interesting to see what it was like behind the scenes from debut to when the allegations surfaced, then when she was removed. That kind of thing would never be shown but it would be very interesting. I always wonder what happened with Garam, just like I wonder what happened with Soojin from (G)I-DLE.
That’s what I thought too. When I heard a documentary was coming out I hoped they would talk about it (tho I knew they wouldn’t I still hoped). Cause that’s what people really wanna see. If you’re gonna release a documentary then I feel like you should show everything not just the parts that are pretty and nice
@@catherineyemi3391 Its illegal for them to include garam without her consent.
@@pjm875 it isn't illegal, it just opens up potential grounds for a lawsuit. Garam's lawyers could argue that they're profiting off of her image without properly compensating her, and depending on how well they did arguing that and what HYBE/Source lawyers presented as their counterargument, they may or may not end up having to pay her a portion of the profits.
it's also likely her parents wouldn't want her appearing in anything else moving forward, because it'll just keep the controversy brewing and make it harder for her to continue school and start a career later. so it's possible that this wasn't just a matter of editing her out to avoid lawsuits, but also that her parents requested her to be edited out.
@@cloudquest8006 I put it in more simple terms, You don't need to explain the law to me bud, I know it.
@@pjm875 calling it illegal is going to greatly confuse people and think that someone at HYBE could face charges or jailtime. that's not how it works. this is about HYBE limiting liability and covering their ass in case of lawsuits, not following the letter of the law.
Wish you luck Garam. We are waiting for you! ♥️✨
people need to realize that garam is not in hybe anymore, so they can't use garam footage. also these 5 girls just starting their career, bullying is sensitive topic, put garam part just make it worse for the girls
I feel like they should've at least kept her in the documentary. Cuz if they wanted the documentary to be real and honest, they should've included Garam.
aren’t y’all like so pissed that she was not kicked out like that g idle girl, like just few months ago💀💀💀 yall switched up so fast
they rlly do! first says garamout with hastags in every le sserafim post and when they learned she's not the bully they switch up so fast like they were always on her side 💀💀
that's why I was neutral from the beginning, cuz most of the kpop idol bullying case happens out of jealousy
@@jiminonfloor exactly! like the aoa jimin and mina thing?? everyone was at jimin's throat until the truth was revealed. ppl need to learn how to stay neutral and keep their noses out of things that don't involve them.
@@jiminonfloor fr 😞
@@jiminnomonroll I didn’t know it was resolved, do you mind updating me on it?
@@wiwayale1559 i dont remember much about the situation anymore. i just remember that suddenly, the tables turned on mina. dispatch revealed texts proving that mina made everything up. as far as i know, mina's been kinda quiet. i haven't heard much about her since. and jimin released a song. the whole situation is fricked up. i biased both of them so the whole thing really broke my heart 😭
That's really painful, but I think it would be one of her best moments in life because she happen to experience what she dreamt of even just for a little time.
Everyone knows why she isn't there. To think how Garam would feel, I think she would feel so hurt and also sad. She worked hard just as the other girls although she had done something that is not good in the past. I think the bad thing to be an idol is that you cannot be forgiven easily with the mistake you make or made.
Imagine the hardwork of the editor have while editing the video....
Y'all are surprised by this? I am Monbebe and Wenee and let me tell you I spent the whole Monsta X movie angry because they edited Wonho out perfectly. The magic of editing can definitely do this (and without any weird conspiracy theories that say that she was meant to leave even before they debuted)
Yeahhh that pissed me off too
That's exactly what I thought! I'm also a Sone so, i know how can they edit things even if they were filmed 15years ago
you guys are dumb? there are contracts, and if a person is no longer part of the group the company is legally obliged to cut off the former member's parts.
She don't deserved this 😞💔
Yes
I miss Garam ㅠㅠ she was just innocent girl
i never knew chaewon looks so pretty with long hair😭🫶🏻
now i just want garam to debut solo
i mean she must be sad just like anyone else. the fans made hybe kick her 🤷🏻♀️ they have no right anymore to put her in LS content
Imagine training so hard for your debut that when the documentary comes out they cut you out of the viewer's eye, they detract from all your work, poor Garam, she deserves better, and I hope she's okay now
Ofc I feel bad for Garam. But she's no longer in contract with Hybe, it's understandable to blur and crop her so Hybe won't get sued.
@@yaymilko Sued? why? for putting a former member who gave all her effort to debut, who was possibly happy to see the documentary, and that in the end she was removed from the group, and to top it off cut from the documentary in which she would show that she worked very hard
@@naeunleftgofficial because she wili not be getting paid anymore!!! Why are people finding it hard to understand? Are you sure you don't just want someone new to hate?
Slay! Hybe did a good job with the editing
It does!
Imagine editing out all the progress and hardwork of a young girl because of a fake rumour 💀💀💀 I know she's not in the company but at least they could have asked for her consent to be in the documentary
Imagine the editor happy and relieved the job's done and they go and say we need to crop someone out man
I’m really glad I never partook in the bullying and wanting Garam out. I was in the middle, but now that the truth is out.
I wonder,
Just how many times has this happened to idols? I’m always hearing scandals left and right that dates back way into middle school and high school. It’s crazy.
There was Hyujjin from StrayKids too. My god. I hope Garam is doing okay. She’s only 16. Only able to live her dream for 2 weeks.
:(
the company is just being professional
But Chaewon.... OH GHOSTTTTT SHE is SO BEAUTIFULL OMGGGGGG
I stan lesserafim.... because of garam🥲😭
Let's just not talk about garam anymore,I understand why the company cropped her out but if we keep talking about her the scandal will be going on and on and not end,if we just give garam peace she will hopefully recover from this
So glad everyone actually is using their brains. Ofc shes not gonna be in the doc.
Ya’ll Garam stans should really leave the girl alone💀 She is finally happy again and preparing to apply to uni(?), one of her friends said that. Don’t ya’ll think it’s bad for her that you keep posting clips and pictures of the life she no longer has?
fr i'd hate it if i were her
Yes happy again after getting bullied to the point her mother feared she would take her life, "leave her alone" why didn't y'all do that when she was getting bullied online?
@@beomoa15 i didn't bully her, don't even try to blaming me for something i haven't done. I'm just saying a bunch of people have an unhealthy obsession with her, she is not a celebrity anymore and probably wishes to live like her friends now, in private.
@@Rinacheese never said you bullied her tho did u read the comment?
Deep down I actually wanted atleast they put garam in the documentary, cus its the part of their process and experience during debut days, they still had so much memories tgt tho 🥲
Them: imagine how garam would feel
Me: imagine how the people she bullied would feel
Get your news updated, she didn't bully anyone, she defended her friend. YOU are the one cyberbullying her.
@@pjm875
Is their any evidence she protected her friend
You fans news to get s life
@@pjm875 she mocks at sakura appearance ,an unrespect behavior to her
@@youngmoney1346 yes there’s ben evidence. y’all be asking for proof but won’t bother to read to school violence documents. it says she got lv 5 for cussing at the “victim” for taking naked pics of her friend while changing and posting them online. a lv 5 in garam’s school isn’t based on severity and was the most common given out while the “victim” was supposed to get a lv 8 but transferred before she could get it. bullying is ALWAYS one sided. i would know trust me. garam didn’t bully anyone
@@ncyng6764 she didn’t. It was part of the program to awkwardly compliment each other.
If Garam was already punished in the past for "bullying" a schoolmate, then I don't get the need to bring up the issue again since she was already punished accordingly. Now Garam is stripped off her dream of becoming an idol and her life ruined. That doesn't make the "victim" any different from Garam when she "bullied" her in the past.
very true and garam found innocent and the fake victim is real bully . she destroyed her life because of her jealousy 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Garam is innocent even her official school document says no violence or bullying and she was verbally defending a friend against a fake victim who took half naked photos of Garam's friend and posted them online. .
Can we just stop talking about garam? She was kicked out of the group, she's living her life, let's just let her in peace
I think stans tend to forget how Garam was a part of all the struggles lesserafim went through as shown in the documentary and how hard she had to work to debut just for it all to come crashing down because everyone went on the hate train and kept demanding to kick her out without ever waiting for actual confirmation of her situation and when she turned out to be innocent, everyone ignored her. Can't even imagine how she must've felt seeing everything that included her all to just never exist.
Our Girl got that Talent! She needs to re-debut soon.
#justiceforgaram
She'll be back after completing highschool
@@IvyTheAmazingSerene I hope sooooooooooooooooooo
She would come back with a boom
I miss Garam so so sooooo much😢😢….
I was so excited when I heard abt lesserafim debut.When I first saw the members I just fell in luv with their style,music and personality
I liked all the members but garam was my bias.
When I heard that she was kicked out from the group trust me I cried my heart out😭😭
When I was reading abt the case I felt so angry at that Eunseo!Eunseo was just so jealous of her (garam) achieving her dreams that she put all those false accusations on her 😢😢😢
I will forever miss and luv garam😕
same yaar
very true i also miss garam alot!
Now imagine how much hate the remaining members would get if she had been shown in the documentary. What happened with Garam sucks. But my focus is on the well being and growth of the members of Le Sserafim aka Chaewon, Sakura, Yunjin, Kazuha, and Eunchae.
the way y’all are painting the rest of the girls as victims is really rubbing me the wrong way. yes, they all worked hard and image of the group would have been ruined if garam stayed in the group but they aren’t victims, garam is. they still get to stay in their group and achieve their dreams while garam doesn’t. the girls don’t get hate, garam does.
Chaewon long hair is so pretty omg
Garam can sue HYBE for using her image or video bc he contract is already terminated. And also she's not part of the group anymore so yeah
It was people who hated on her.. that makes the company do her like this.. we all know she debut as centre visual of the. Group.. honestly she's a gem for hype but. .. the people who hated on her makes this happened 😖
I understand they delete her because netizen would react and it will ruin the entire documentary to be enjoy
I mean how can they crop a video so damn talented!!
She's a part of Fimmies from the start. She debuted with them and a Documentary isn't what they film. It should be honest from the deepest and bottom heart. How can they ignore her completely like that. We want to see her saddest part, he hardships and her hope!! KIM GARAM😭i miss you I Love You❤
I don't think an entertainment company would be stupid enough to kick someone talented out of the group just because some bunch of wannabe detectives made these baseless statements who knows how deep this story might be..just saying maybe there was something problematic about her.
No they obviously had to because of the pressure. They tried so hard to defend her but everyone was boycotting them and slandering the whole group so they had to sacrifice her to save the other 5, as unfair as that sounds. They did their best and she did her best holding on too, but we never know she might also have wanted to stop everything because of all the hate, bullying and death threats she received. It’s nit then being stupid, it’s them looking out for the good of the company overall. They can’t keep losing money and reputation, especially when they have so many groups under them.
@@wiwayale1559 it is not the first case we have seen in many bullying cases in kpop industry idols usually come back after short break they could have done the same kicking her out of the group was unnecessary these companies are evil and just after money..the whole group got a lot of attention thanks to the rumour and now they are one of the most popular groups...just believing that a company would just kick a member out like that is stupid most of the groups have a lot of content and songs recorded an entire corrperation won't reschedule everything for just a single idol..
@@tamanna9718 while it’s true that there were many such cases, this case got the most popular and it was huge in Korea. The amount of pressure was insane,and it became even harder to keep her or protect her because she doesn’t have a fanbase of her own like the other members. She was completely new to the scene so people treated her like a punching bag to relive their stress without considering that she is human even. Even Soojin had to leave despite nit being new, so I think it really depends on the public opinion, because there is no way a company would invest so much money on a kid just to throw her away so easily. They also need to get paid back for the money they spent on forming her right? So I think this had nothing to do with a conspiracy from them to ruin her life and gain from it. Especially since HYBE are traumatized from scandals about girl groups.
their whole situation is just unfortunate but the editing of the documentary was really good and made it look like they were only 5 from the beginning. it was hard to spot garam ngl
Imagine loosing everything because some stupid fans couldn’t research and just started hating on her without any proof that she actually bullied someone. I love you Garam 💗
I think all members who left their group was cut out. imagine how they feel. Especially if they have been in the group for a long time
The editors did a great job cropping her out.
They worked hard ♥️
Why are you happy about that? Are you another one of her haters that ignores or twists evidence that proves her innocence?
@@missserenity1090 Whether you like it or not, Garam's out and is a commoner now. It'll be weird if the company still includes her when she's not signed anymore. The editors did a great job~
@@mr.a9696 Okay so why are you happy about that? It sounds like you’re happy she’s no longer in the group. So it sounds like you hate her. Obviously she’s not coming back but it sounds like you’re happy she’s gone. Do I need to simplify this further for you to understand? Also a “commoner”? Why would you use a word that that, just say that she’s no longer an idol (at least for now anyways). That is such a bizarre word to use to describe someone.
It’s also good she was cropped out, and people may not agree on this but Knetz might throw more hate if they see her there (which they did before even without fact checking). I understand her fans will be sad about this but it’s also better so she can start fresh soon.
I wish if garam can debute in a new group (feature)
Iam so disappointed in Hybe for these reasons
1.They didnt defend Garam for something she clearly didnt do
2.Hybe ruined Le sserafim's vocals by making songs that are too low for them causing them to be the most hated groups
3.Hybe puts New jeans into hiatus for no reason
4.In the survival show R U Next?they appoited judges that only cares about visuals and not talents.
Chaewon long hair+bare face💗💗💗💗
Sacry how well they edited her out like that
How can we even blame hybe? Hybe tried their best to make the thing calm and easy but those stupid netizens were that wild and aggressive they made all those stupid shitty theories, dramatic stories. I knew it from the first that something is fishy and smelly i mean people were making it dramatic by saying like suicide,death threads etc etc. I mean so stupid ??? Hybe was calm they even said they need time but people were so hyped to kick garam out of the group. The fact they were hyped just because of some stupid fake theories, huh they Don't even tried to understand the whole thing from the back story. Huh..human mind...people made hybe nervous and anxious that's why as soon as possible hybe let garam out of the group. To made the situation calm. Cuz hybe was literally got blamed by fake theories like "garam is hybe's secret weapon" "garam is bang pd's daughter " 💀lmao netizens are so useless. After garam left the situation got a little calm. And finally the truth came out that she was innocent and now people turned their colours by "we want garam back" "our angel " "garam deserves better poor angel" really??? Wow i'm so shocked by how fast people turns their colour. Then why did you guys aggressively bark "kick garam out of the group" "pretty but she is a demon inside " "eunchae deserves better garam needs to get out" wow so good these are the same people who are now calling garam an "angel" "poor girl" making sad videos abt garam " wow so much sympathy.. Then why did you stupid peoples barked abt her even without knowing the truth?? Huh nah plz tell me..
Never judge a book by it’s cover literally came out true
You did not just defend Hype for doing actually bare minimum when it comes to their artists' health and reputation lmao. Literally a few days she was kicked, the case was solved so I don't think Hype did anything helpful
This is so cruel to her. Especially Source Music is doing this to Garam despite they themselves kept saying she is innocent. Also it’s their fault they ruined her life. They knew her past but still debuted her against everything just to trash her out.
but isnt that happens when someone’s not in the group/company anymore? in svt’s case their predebut member who left and now a private citizen even got his face blurred out by some fan edits bc like what i said earlier, he’s a former member and now a private citizen
To all those of you accusing Garam of bullying:
1. As much as she hasn't been proven innocent, there's also no solid proof of her being guilty.
2. None of us know the full story, so stop speculating because all the photos and media could easily have been manipulated.
3. We stan idols for their music and talent, not their personal background.
THEY CANNOT LEGALLY SHOW HER
Ayo ayo direngkrut SM lahh😭🔥
I remember when B.I get in scandal back then, he is cropped out from the program but i forgot the name of the program, anyway in that program has yeri from red velvet and him to explore living in the jungle or something similar like that. And all the scene that has him is all cropped out because of the scandal
garam should be in this documentary, this is her eexperience
Lmaoo they cropped her out because they know she’ll 100% sue them if they didn’t. I mean I would if I were her. They failed to protect her and they have the face to use her for clout? Nu uh.
SEE GUYS IT IS NOT THE COMPANY'S FAULT SHE IS NO MORE IN LESSERAFIM SO STOP SPREADING HATE
ALSO GARAM CAN TAKE ACTION I GUESS IF THE USE HER PHOTOS SINCE SHE IS NOT IN THE COMPANY ANY LONGER...
Lets just be real yo. If noone picked sides and stayed neutral this situation wouldn’t even exsist. I have mixed feelings about the documentary sometimes im happy and sometimes im just feeling like damn this is messed up. But more so im happy cause Garam doesn’t have to go through all the hate anymore. Hybe is doing the right thing though i mean look wat happened when she appeared in the japanese promos even tho she was still signed people went nuts so yea. She’s studying and if she chooses to return to the kpop world good for her i wish her the best
Ikr. People nowadays can't just pick a side and complain a lot instead. If she's not removed, imagine how people will react and it will more unfair for her since she's not affiliated with any HYBE or Lesserafim anymore. I-netz that claimed as "better" version of fans is now not any less worse than knetz since many cyber bullying towards Garam is most from international fans actually
Imagine if Hype was competent enough to defend their idols and let them speak up gor themselves lmao. Literally a few days after she was kick out, the documents came out and we knew the truth. I really don't understand how the people in that company thinks 🙄
@@kimkardashi-un2.051 the documents only came out cause she was removed. Hybe wouldn’t allow the release of then while she was under contract.
it's crazy how well they were able to edit le sserafim into always being a 5 member group, if someone only watched this they could be totally convinced
WE DON'T CARE... LOOK HOW KAZUHA IS BEAUTIFUL ❤️
Omg your just..💀
@@Victoriarubies Garam bullying person, what should I'm doing mercy 🤔
@@KAZAKHCAT ITS confirmed that garam was complete INNOCENT.Was just stupid psycho people made her kicked out from hybe company-_-
@@Victoriarubies omg garl you just simp, wake up please 🤦🏿♂️
Why'd you even comment if you don't care about Garam, go get lost somewhere else
I'm feel so bad for her, I wanna crying...
Suddenly my thoughts about Treasure :') yedam and mashiho on hiatus but yg cropped even edit to remove them from the old content 😭 the pictures are terribly edit at least don't make it it way too obvious.. You literally can see mashiho feet that they forgot to delete/erase.. Like what the point, they randomly posting old content like last year summer pictures but removing the members
When she going to debut she should know that one day the way she did to her school mate the society will payback to her how she bullied her schoolmates then how the society will treat her back
I feel so bad for her. She must've felt very sad and heartbroken :((
Stan Garam!
Yay!
It feels like the girls are happier when they are 5
Part of me wonders if Hybe knew from the start and were preparing for the possibility of this happening. Like, if Garam was like, "hey, this is on my record. I'm not at fault, but I'm telling you now in case it comes up later." I don't know, cause Hybe put so much effort into this concept only to be far too ready to drop her when it came time. I'm probably reaching, but it feels like they made it way too easy to edit her out.
Yup, you're reaching.. pretty sure that they have more than enough clips to insert in the documentary and they just choose which are the clips that are easier to edit Garam out. They probably have these girls be on cam more or less 15-20hrs..
They didn’t even have her on the mv thumbnail so it seems plotted
Hybe tried their best to keep her and defended her.. their statements are even the same when hybe and source music defended her. It’s a huge reach and makes no sense. Netizens ran with it and ruined her reputation sadly, not hybe. Netizens can be so fucking brutal, she’s only 16! And the switch up from “kick her out” to “keep her in the group”? That was bullshit too.. statements never changed from anyone. But if she were to stay in the group, they would be haunted by this and the other members don’t deserve to be dragged into it. It’s not their problem, they didn’t do anything either. A bully started this and netizens finished it for that bully. She will be remembered for this and that’s just messed up too.
I understand that we are sad that Garam is no longer a part of the group (I am really hurt by it), but I think the best thing we can do is forget she ever existed. 😭 (alexa this is so sad play hope not by blackpink)
She isn't part of le sserafim and hybe anymore so they can't put her there
I'm literally in pain I can feel her it's so sad let's request to hybe to take her back
Aww I really felt so bad for Garam but anyways #justiceforGaram