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  • Online dating has completely changed the way we date, but dating can be a dangerous business and with dating moving online and now onto apps like Tinder and Grindr it's becoming more perilous than ever. Connecting people who would not ordinarily get on with each other in real life, crimes involving dating apps have risen sevenfold in the past 2 years. In December 2015, 26-year-old Carl Langell began exchanging messages with 23-year-old Katie Lock via plentyoffish.com. Katie was a a beautiful young girl who clearly had her whole life ahead of her, and Carl Langell presented himself as being a very upstanding young man, however that was far from the truth.
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  • @KelluyPowell-1985
    @KelluyPowell-1985 9 місяців тому +392

    It's not that online dating is more dangerous than meeting a stranger in a bar like we did 30 years ago. Sadly there have always been lots of dangerous men out there. The problem is that online dating gives woman a false sense of safety. "We've been texting/talking for months!" They think they "know" them well and they feel safer. We were just always scared in the 1990s... I think the constant texting creates a false sense of intimacy and it makes women feel safe when they still need to be super careful and unfortunately wary.

    • @jenna-a-gogo
      @jenna-a-gogo 9 місяців тому +28

      Dating apps are definitely not any more dangerous than meeting people in physical locations. The only notable difference is that you can meet more people online more quickly. Meeting more people increases risk, however it is that you met them. It's all in the numbers.

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому +6

      I don't think there is any evidence that people are going on more dates thank they were in the 90s and 2000s. I would guess less as wages have been constantly decreasing vs inflation since the 70s causing people to work more and have less leisure time

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому +2

      Sorry my phone has terrible autocorrect issues but I think what I said was intelligible enough for a UA-cam comment lol

    • @masterofwit339
      @masterofwit339 9 місяців тому +26

      This comment is so spot on. That false sense of “knowing” someone bc of (possible pre-meeting up) communication plus being able to search people easier on (the fake world that is) social media which may or may not yield info…. This world is nuts and the people who inhabit it have just gotten more mad. Dating, period, is terrifying more than not.

    • @jenna-a-gogo
      @jenna-a-gogo 9 місяців тому +16

      @pandamandimax You could be right about that. I'm referencing predators specifically, who certainly have the ability online to meet a larger number of people and potentially set up more in-person dates than they otherwise could. I still think that the number of "psychos" in real life and online are proportionately the same. Dating apps just bring their victims to them more easily.

  • @amilllion1
    @amilllion1 9 місяців тому +169

    Him being a liar isn’t the take away, women have been groomed to “take care “ of others especially men even in uncomfortable situations. Nursing a date isn’t your duty ladies!

    • @Zanne11
      @Zanne11 9 місяців тому +11

      THANK YOU! I couldn't agree more!

    • @janecarolbaldivia1430
      @janecarolbaldivia1430 9 місяців тому +9

      even if the guy had been vommitting she should have just had the taxi bring the man to his hotel alone. that is enough a sense of responsibility. this is first date anyways, plus never get drunk on first few dates, first few months...

    • @marydungan6748
      @marydungan6748 9 місяців тому +15

      If I was on a first date with some guy and he drank himself sick, I would be gone in a New York minute. I'm a kind person, but I sure wouldn't have done what she did. RIP Katie.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 місяців тому +5

      I agree but I feel she most likely fell for his "plan" & was concerned. She definitely made a really misjudged decision. She was trying to help him. He's sick. I do agree tho to not go privately with anyone until u really get to know them. He was playing a game with her & wanted control. Unfortunately she lost her life being "too genuine" Sad.

    • @patmcstuff671
      @patmcstuff671 9 місяців тому

      The common denominator is violent men

  • @marydungan6748
    @marydungan6748 9 місяців тому +73

    I used POF about 20 years ago. One guy I met-the first thing he told me was he had lied about his age. I got up and left. I think now it's even more dangerous.

    • @rescuepetsrock9880
      @rescuepetsrock9880 9 місяців тому +11

      I was on POF about two weeks ago. I can attest to the fact that it's a cringy, hot mess.

    • @Lonerstoner86
      @Lonerstoner86 9 місяців тому +12

      I had a guy lie abou his age to I deleted them apps I rather be single shit weird out here

    • @saynotohookups
      @saynotohookups 8 місяців тому

      @@rescuepetsrock9880 My subscription was recently over. It's terrible.

    • @juanitafox9906
      @juanitafox9906 8 місяців тому +5

      I KEEP HEARING PPL SAY THAT SITE IS FREE! MAY HAVE BEEN WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED BUT NOT ANYMORE. UD BE SURPRISED AT THE NO OF MEN IN HARDCORE PRISONS DOING LIFE ON P.O.F...PARADING AS BEING AVAILABLE TO MEET...JUST SAD!

    • @KelluyPowell-1985
      @KelluyPowell-1985 8 місяців тому +4

      because it's physically impossible for a guy in a bar to lie about his age?

  • @leigha2814
    @leigha2814 9 місяців тому +154

    Weird they're making this about the apps/sites and not about the fact that the courts just let violent men walk away with barely a tap on the wrist.

    • @flooferwoofenschnizz3858
      @flooferwoofenschnizz3858 9 місяців тому +3

      Seriously 😒 💯

    • @marilynvallance
      @marilynvallance 9 місяців тому +1

      Do they ? I don’t think so. Bit of a sweeping statement.

    • @leigha2814
      @leigha2814 9 місяців тому +7

      @@marilynvallance did you watch the video?

    • @flooferwoofenschnizz3858
      @flooferwoofenschnizz3858 9 місяців тому +7

      @@marilynvallance Yes actually they DO!!! Do you live under a rock!? Wow

    • @flooferwoofenschnizz3858
      @flooferwoofenschnizz3858 9 місяців тому +1

      @@marilynvallance I think your statement is rather sweeping as well don’t you think? You think we live in a safe world? Oooooook ha

  • @btstakescareofmewhenimsick4892
    @btstakescareofmewhenimsick4892 9 місяців тому +47

    Online,.or in person, there s always a risk in meeting strangers

  • @lahueramasgabrona
    @lahueramasgabrona 8 місяців тому +17

    I would have left him at the bar.
    I'm so sorry she lost her life. What a sweet, beautiful young lady. Huge loss this world has taken.

  • @melissamorton1282
    @melissamorton1282 9 місяців тому +57

    I'm fortunate to have met a wonderful man online in 2017. We dated for several years and got engaged. Sadly, my fiance died last year from complications from Type 1 Diabetes. I don't think I'll ever get over it or ever feel like even dating anymore.

    • @LauraHawkins-j7t
      @LauraHawkins-j7t 9 місяців тому +10

      I'm so sorry for your loss. My sweet boyfriend died of covid

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 місяців тому +5

      Awee. I'm sorry to hear that. 🩵

    • @amberpearce222
      @amberpearce222 9 місяців тому +4

      ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Rest in peace

    • @gleech3442
      @gleech3442 8 місяців тому +6

      I am so sorry. Diabetes has robbed us all in one way or another.

    • @donnaleehinds2514
      @donnaleehinds2514 8 місяців тому +1

      May your heart heal my dead! ❤

  • @donnafuller3029
    @donnafuller3029 9 місяців тому +116

    If i met a guy for the first time and he got falling down drunk that would of been the end of that date right then and there. Booking a room also, umm no way. Poor girl was to nice for her own good. Sad.

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому +8

      I think she wanted to get him home to his room safely and had a good time on the date prior to that. Probably thought it was funny but he just got nervous and drank too much (that's what I would think if everything else had gone fine). I Seriously doubt she thought That he'd present any threat at all as he literally couldn't even stand without help.
      She probably helped him back to his room and was laughing her a-- off, but had a good time on the date. He strangled her the first chance he could catch her facing the refrigerator/whatever caught her unawares. Worry about the actions of the murderer, not innocent victims.
      That's good on u that you never helped a falling down drunk person back to their room. But lots of people have, and nobody is in the wrong for that..
      In fact I've seen a very drunk murder victim get left behind by their friends because they were too drunk, and later get murdered, and everyone b-ched at the friends for NOT helping the drunkard back to their room.
      So it seems you can't win either way with victim blamers. Always gotta find a way to put blame on anyone BUT the murderer

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 місяців тому +9

      That's exactly what happened:( He lured her in & planned all that. She had no intention to go anywhere but a public date & sent her family a photo of him also. He did that & she fell for it. Just being helpful. Sad.

    • @belle9184
      @belle9184 9 місяців тому

      Would have

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 8 місяців тому +1

      @@amandalidey329 agree

    • @janet5846
      @janet5846 8 місяців тому

      ​@belle9184 Am pretty sure they know how to write it gramatically correct, a bit like gr8... I know how to write great
      It's YT, give your obtuse take on this serious matter about murder, a fogging rest

  • @lottewied1937
    @lottewied1937 8 місяців тому +34

    Danger looms in online dating …you meet a stranger . Psychopaths are everywhere …

  • @issievdhorst
    @issievdhorst 9 місяців тому +53

    The guy gets mad drunk and VOMITS on their first date!!! RUN GIRL RUN

    • @yellop
      @yellop 8 місяців тому +3

      He wasn’t actually drunk, it was a setup to get her back to the room….

  • @carpediem9718
    @carpediem9718 9 місяців тому +67

    She should’ve just called a cab for him to take him to his hotel and that would’ve been the end of it.

    • @janecarolbaldivia1430
      @janecarolbaldivia1430 8 місяців тому +3

      yes

    • @goldkhw
      @goldkhw 8 місяців тому

      I would have called a cab for myself and just got out of there. A vomiting drunk? Bye.@@janecarolbaldivia1430

    • @jewlz1960
      @jewlz1960 8 місяців тому +3

      That was my thought also.
      Very sad….

    • @melissastreeter22
      @melissastreeter22 8 місяців тому +3

      Better yet, do what I should've done numerous times in my earlier, naīve years-- excuse yourself "for a moment," as if going to the ladies room, and just keep walking without further word. Of course I wouldn't know that now had I not had those awful experiences then.

    • @אילייןלוי
      @אילייןלוי 8 місяців тому

      ...exactly..
      But the psycho was banking on her going back with him
      Maybe he even pleaded with her to go back with him,making her feel " guilty" for leaving him in such a horrible state
      She couldnt have seen this coming,but " hotels" are a red flag too,if you meet for the first time at least,staying a public place,you dont owe hom.anything,if you're uncomfortable,dont go..

  • @kiela1732
    @kiela1732 9 місяців тому +27

    Why these people don't do a background check is beyond me.

    • @pntbtr
      @pntbtr 5 місяців тому +1

      too much trouble for only a date!

    • @kiela1732
      @kiela1732 5 місяців тому +1

      @@pntbtr Guess it would also be too much trouble for the cops to look for you when you go missing.

  • @giorgismama8024
    @giorgismama8024 8 місяців тому +11

    Online dating can be great. My husband and I met 12 years ago and have been married nearly 11. Initially, we emailed for a couple months, then talked on the phone before meeting for lunch in a town 90 miles away from my apartment. I did take security precautions to make sure he worked where he said, etc. We both worked on military bases so it was easy to verify. There is nothing wrong with paid online dating sites, but one has to use common sense and verify things. I know many people who met their spouses online.

  • @Brembelia
    @Brembelia 9 місяців тому +43

    I can't believe the courts are so irresponsible as to put this murderous psychopath back out on the streets again in 26 years. What ,in heaven's name, do they think he'll do, stay home and knit jumpers? Or is it more likely he'll pick up right where he left off only then he will be older, wiser, and will go after younger girls. I envision this character as becoming a kidnapping serial killer. He needs to be remanded to a penitentiary for the criminally insane for the rest of his life so all of his future victims will be allowed to keep their lives. What are these courts thinking???

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 місяців тому +3

      I agree 100% He will definitely do it again imo. & he's given that chance. He should get life/no parole.

  • @shelleymeritt6960
    @shelleymeritt6960 9 місяців тому +15

    I'm so glad there was no internet when I was growing up, the way I was young stupid and trusting just out to have fun...I'm sure I would b dead...

  • @samsong24
    @samsong24 9 місяців тому +12

    The Katie Locke case is almost exactly like the Grace Millane case. So eerie and sad.

    • @erinloo8921
      @erinloo8921 8 місяців тому

      Milane was exceedingly foolish

  • @leneo1731
    @leneo1731 9 місяців тому +34

    Emotional Unstable Personality Disorder!
    I was diagnosed with this Disorder some twenty years ago.
    I've read a lot of psycology, i've studird two years health care into a Bachelor degree and I've also had my share of meetings with health care professionals.
    But I've NEVER ever heard that being violent is a trait in Emotional Unstable Personality Disorder!
    Quite the opposite, in fact.
    The people I've been in contact with whogot this diagnosis are shy, fragile, withdrawn people who never would hurt anyone.
    The fact that this Disorder gets mixed together with the trait of this person who obviously is a sociopath, is really provoking.
    It's also scary and unfair.
    If I'd recently been diagnosed with this Disorder and seen this video, I'd been terrified!
    Hearing what's being said here about this Disorder clearly would upset everyone suspecting they have the Disorder.
    Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder have NOTHING to do with being a psycopath or having ANY form of anti social personality traits.
    NOTHING!

    • @havestrength5802
      @havestrength5802 9 місяців тому +4

      thank you!

    • @theopinionisthighqualityopinio
      @theopinionisthighqualityopinio 9 місяців тому +1

      If you're in any way familiar with Freemasonry, you'll notice that the Port story is chock-full of numbers that are extremely important to that group of people. That's a clear sign that this is 🎭🎭 and that's why your personal experience and the experience described in the story don't jibe. The author of the story didn't take enough time to get the details right. He /she figured that no one would notice.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 місяців тому +3

      I can understand that.

    • @marilynvallance
      @marilynvallance 9 місяців тому +4

      I live with someone with this diagnosis. He is emotionally unstable and he does have ‘tantrums’ but he’s not dangerous. What can make it dangerous is if there is also narcissism present.

    • @KelluyPowell-1985
      @KelluyPowell-1985 8 місяців тому +2

      I agree that was ridiculous

  • @maureenstevens6824
    @maureenstevens6824 9 місяців тому +88

    Im sorry but ANYONE who thinks ANYONE online is telling the truth is dreaming. They are looking for a hookup or victim.
    Be patient and meet someone on your own that you know or at least someone you know knows him.

    • @suelandriault8137
      @suelandriault8137 9 місяців тому +31

      I met my now husband on an online dating site. We had a 'blind date' after talking for a week or two online. We've been together since that day in 2005!

    • @ennds4636
      @ennds4636 9 місяців тому +29

      How can you meet someone you already know? This is pretty unrealistic.
      If you take reasonable precautions, online dating isn't any more or less dangerous than any other kind of dating. Anyone looking for love is going to take some risks, it's impossible not to. Katie actually did a lot of things right. She got murdered because she went out with a murderer, which she couldn't have known.

    • @PamelaGlasgow-ll5ur
      @PamelaGlasgow-ll5ur 9 місяців тому +1

      I agree with you 💯🤷‍♀️😡

    • @truenorth7949
      @truenorth7949 9 місяців тому +4

      i would agree and say a majority are on there for a quick hook up/fwb and the percentage of relationships that actually come out of these scenarios that last are low in general

    • @AWJ-zf8cf
      @AWJ-zf8cf 9 місяців тому +7

      I agree. What has happened is more people just want hook ups they don't want to put in any effort because there are so many to choose from. It's completely different now

  • @ellybean5868
    @ellybean5868 9 місяців тому +11

    Wow, it took the cops that long to figure this out.? Unbelievable

  • @starwyn7
    @starwyn7 9 місяців тому +28

    That poor dog walker!

  • @breathnstop
    @breathnstop 8 місяців тому +7

    You cannot create a false commitment to a first date. If they get sick on alcohol call EMTs and get your butt home. He's not your responsibility.

  • @breathnstop
    @breathnstop 8 місяців тому +4

    Even the parents had less cautiousness than they should. Why would you confront this guys family without the police.

  • @susanwilliams4953
    @susanwilliams4953 9 місяців тому +34

    Sad cases, may the victims rest peacefully.

  • @mfi-cf7sp
    @mfi-cf7sp 9 місяців тому +35

    16:08 I’m sorry but how could ANYONE see this face and not run like hell? 👀 that’s not even a face a mother could love 🤢

  • @non-ya228
    @non-ya228 9 місяців тому +53

    Man, I thought American cops were lazy, but these police officers take the cake on not giving 2 fu!% alls

    • @shannon4811
      @shannon4811 9 місяців тому +4

      Came to the comments to say the exact same !!

    • @Lily-gs9iv
      @Lily-gs9iv 5 місяців тому

      A lot of male police officers are redpill and hate women. So they don’t care what happens to women.

  • @ritadoran5039
    @ritadoran5039 9 місяців тому +25

    Scary enough to keep me off any apps Thank you God

    • @laurids2007
      @laurids2007 8 місяців тому

      Good for you.
      Dating apps is where all trash of the Universe offer themselves with false propaganda.

    • @maysamj2004
      @maysamj2004 8 місяців тому

      I have the same view as you. These dating apps are all fake.

  • @SumKnight-iw4rw
    @SumKnight-iw4rw 8 місяців тому +3

    Love the confidence of the psychologist. She’s psychic too.

  • @ecinatm8391
    @ecinatm8391 9 місяців тому +6

    That neighbor is so bold faced now, u knew the monster he was and said nothing!

  • @Myglowtips
    @Myglowtips 8 місяців тому +3

    I‘d rather knit myself a jerzy or learn how to play a sonata on the piano than, go on cesspool dating sites. You literally take your life into your hands with a smile.

  • @mikaylaburton3695
    @mikaylaburton3695 9 місяців тому +4

    Crazy to hear a lot of stories about POF. When I was in highschool there was a super senior that took all my photos off Facebook and made a profile then solicited me as a prop. Trying to get them to remove the fake profile was so difficult!

  • @karenmartin4221
    @karenmartin4221 8 місяців тому +4

    Meeting up with a stranger at 3:00am after communicating online for 4-5 minutes? Yeah, nothing could go wrong with that plan…

  • @janetduncan87
    @janetduncan87 8 місяців тому +3

    I met the man I am with now on POF. It's almost 8 years now. We connected on the first date and gradually moved towards something we both wanted. He was very upfront about what he wanted in a relationship. He wasn't the kind to hit it and quit it. I fell for him because of it. He wasn't in it to play games. He was a tough shell, but I wanted his heart. I have it, and he has mine. God truly answered my prayers.

  • @joeymatthysen5105
    @joeymatthysen5105 9 місяців тому +15

    I have never believed in online dating!!! Never been that hardup for a unknown partner!!!

    • @saynotohookups
      @saynotohookups 8 місяців тому +4

      The dating apps are awful.

    • @carlahenry1011
      @carlahenry1011 8 місяців тому +1

      So sad but this is one hell of a risk meeting stranger's online

    • @pollytopps3540
      @pollytopps3540 8 місяців тому

      ​@@carlahenry1011one risk im not willing to try

  • @northerngirl4666
    @northerngirl4666 9 місяців тому +19

    Assume that the info presented by an individual on a dating app is suspect. Do the research first and dig and dig and dig. There are so many places from which you could get information. Go to the building to check out if her really has an office there; where he lives and his criminal record. It sounds horrible but when you watch videos where women have been strung along for years by a person’s lies. If someone, after a year of dating, never invites you to their home after a couple of weeks, INVESTIGATE.

    • @truenorth7949
      @truenorth7949 9 місяців тому +1

      so many lie on these apps and have zero shame. Lot of them are married yet lie about their status cannot trust them

  • @PamelaTenn
    @PamelaTenn 9 місяців тому +16

    What a Horrible Monster Carl was.
    So sorry Katie died bc she was a good person..
    May Katie REST IN HEAVENLY PEACE..PRAYERS FOR KATIE'S FAMILY AND FRIENDS .
    🎉PAMELA🎉

  • @te2393
    @te2393 8 місяців тому +4

    The detective that interrogated him should be a prosecutor, exceptionally good.

  • @TheJapanChannelDcom
    @TheJapanChannelDcom 9 місяців тому +42

    You cant blame the app any more than blaming a bar because someone met a psycho there.

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 9 місяців тому +13

      There's no way to screen for psycho.

    • @Trix897
      @Trix897 9 місяців тому +6

      There have to be ways for the operators of these apps to screen people who use these apps and barring criminals from using them.

    • @TheJapanChannelDcom
      @TheJapanChannelDcom 9 місяців тому

      @@Trix897 So, should bars do that too? Not practical.

    • @lamented-musings8932
      @lamented-musings8932 9 місяців тому +10

      No we can’t 100% blame the app but we should probably have them regulated better. Also you’re ore likely to get murdered via online dating than meeting people at a bar because online dating is more accessible to predators especially ones who are normally introverted.

    • @missperfectfeet
      @missperfectfeet 9 місяців тому +3

      I think these adds shouldn't allow people to advertise themselves. One real and recent pic is enough and some questions about their interests, personality, hobbies... specific questions with specific answers, and that's it.

  • @TerryFord-sr9nr
    @TerryFord-sr9nr 9 місяців тому +52

    Y'all can have that online dating!! Hell-to-the-naw!!🤦🏾

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 9 місяців тому

      Yep
      Scammers
      Pervs
      Psychos
      Players
      No thanks

    • @marniekilbourne608
      @marniekilbourne608 9 місяців тому +7

      It does really suck. I did meet a psycho or two on POF specifically. I'm just lucky I didn't end up dead. SMH.

    • @TerryFord-sr9nr
      @TerryFord-sr9nr 9 місяців тому +3

      @@marniekilbourne608 I'm glad you were able to walk away from that too! ENJOY YOUR LIFE!!!❤️🙏🏽❣️

    • @truenorth7949
      @truenorth7949 9 місяців тому +2

      been there done that in the past and swore off dating apps...nothing but junk and low quality people

    • @saynotohookups
      @saynotohookups 8 місяців тому +1

      @kilbourne608 I met a guy on there who was charged with stalking a girl. He was never interested in meeting or chatting on video phone. In fact he told me that he was not interested in me romantically even though he said that I was beautiful. HIs pics looked like they were from the nineties too.

  • @nilsanarvaez7947
    @nilsanarvaez7947 9 місяців тому +26

    Wow how could the police not check Ports laptop? 😔😡 damn! Police are a bunch of bumbling idiots!

  • @yaa63
    @yaa63 9 місяців тому +3

    ALL SCAMMERS...AVOID THEM PLEASE...THEY ARE THE WORST OF THE WORST...voice of experience HERE!!!! PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THEM

  • @juanitafox9906
    @juanitafox9906 8 місяців тому +9

    THAT PLENTY OF FISH DATING SITE MIGHT HAVE BEEN FREE IN THE BEGINNING...BUT NOT HERE IN CALIF! GOT ALL KINDS OF "PRISONERS DOING LIFE" BEING ABLE TO ACCESS AND CONTACT PPL LIKE THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO MEETUP! JUST SAD ON ALL LEVELS OF SANITY....

  • @sweetzangel7501
    @sweetzangel7501 9 місяців тому +14

    Never have I seen such incompetence displayed by police officials. This criminal wasn't even the smartest psychopath, by far. Yet and still he ran circles around these people. Like wow!!! Did they even try? This is the Law and order that represents your country? I'm embarrassed for them. This did not have to get as far as it did. My heart absolutely goes out to the victims and their families. Yes dating apps can do more, but ppl are going to do what they want, be attracted to what they want and pursue what they want. Nothing and no one can stop that. But when something is reported it absolutely falls in the hands or law enforcement and we rely on them to protect us and connect the dots at least if nothing else. Dating apps or not, criminals will never cease to exist. The rest is up to them to do their job. We are play a part I suppose, but police vowed to protect n serve. So do that!!

  • @AlpineSprinkles
    @AlpineSprinkles 8 місяців тому +6

    Shouldnt plenty of fish be checking the backgrounds of these people???

  • @smnvo1129
    @smnvo1129 8 місяців тому +2

    The online world can be dangerous and deceiving.

  • @deniseackermann7116
    @deniseackermann7116 2 місяці тому

    At 75 years old, the thing that has saved me repeatedly is that if it sounds too good to be true... IT IS... No one and nothing is perfect... and it never will be... 😊

  • @patienceumajie3983
    @patienceumajie3983 8 місяців тому +3

    Why would she go with a drunk that she just met for first time. Why didn’t she just find him a cab to the hotel? So sad!

  • @raoh8096
    @raoh8096 9 місяців тому +4

    Apps are not to be held responsible for this it’s people who are lacking in common sense.

  • @skiewalker1033
    @skiewalker1033 9 місяців тому +5

    Psychopath + narcissist which also means sociopath. All of these in his sick mind. This is very prevalent. NOT rare at all.

  • @ariloves10
    @ariloves10 9 місяців тому +34

    Online dating is not sustainable.
    Any couples who met online deserve an award for overcoming the odds.

    • @lamented-musings8932
      @lamented-musings8932 9 місяців тому +9

      I never used dating apps because most people are looking for a hookup. I found my bf on reddit. So yeah we had no expectations of looking for a date. It just kinda happened naturally. Now we been living together for years. He's amazing.

    • @jenna-a-gogo
      @jenna-a-gogo 9 місяців тому +10

      I guess my cousin also deserves that award then. The woman he met online became his wife and the mother of their children. "Dating apps are dangerous" is such a false narrative. You can just as easily meet a killer in the bar, at school, in the park, or wherever.

    • @TiffTheTyrant
      @TiffTheTyrant 9 місяців тому +6

      I met my husband from a website. His brother met his wife from same website.

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 9 місяців тому +3

      @lamented-musings8932 congratulations on your love! Awesomeness 💕

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 9 місяців тому +7

      @@jenna-a-gogo dating apps ARE dangerous. Do the research for yourself. The failures outweigh the successes, so your cousin overcame the odds.

  • @dr.barrycohn5461
    @dr.barrycohn5461 9 місяців тому +5

    The commenting woman should become an actress. She was way too dramatic.

  • @minervagalvez4748
    @minervagalvez4748 4 місяці тому +2

    EVERYONE ON A DATING ONLINE WEBSITE ARE EXTREME LIARS.

  • @sandralauzon9416
    @sandralauzon9416 9 місяців тому +5

    It is not the responsibility of dating agencies to "babysit" people using their site.
    COMMON SENSE and awareness. These bad situations are known. Meeting a stranger at 3am?....er....casual hook ups.....????

  • @Libertas4Ever
    @Libertas4Ever 9 місяців тому +7

    You can never rebuild trust. You rebuild the illusion of the trust you once had. That's the mistake that people always make. I'm guilty of it myself. Once you break trust it's broken. PeriodT.
    So therefore based on what this person said, don't leave the website because you have more safety there. But the website didn't protect them even with their own measures that they put in place, and then they released rhetoric, saying we take safety very seriously. But after he was reported they did nothing. Right.

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому +1

      It's true but it takes life experience to learn to cut someone off after a red flag. The first time, the manipulative person will come up with every appeal in the book to make you feel sorry for cutting them off and swear they'll never do it again, and most of us are raised to give people a second chance because no one is perfect.
      Eventually she did learn that the man truly was toxic and cut him off. He flew cross county to try to kill her because that's what a loser he was.
      All of us go through a manipulative relationship at some point and learn from that experience not to fall into the forgiveness trap. When you're young you still have to learn those lessons

  • @Nonhlanhla-f1f
    @Nonhlanhla-f1f 9 місяців тому +21

    The things that people do for love🙌🙌

    • @PamelaGlasgow-ll5ur
      @PamelaGlasgow-ll5ur 9 місяців тому +1

      😏

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 9 місяців тому

      They murder love.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 місяців тому +3

      I don't believe she loved him. It was way too soon to "be in love" it was their first date. She was being nice, trying to help him & he took advantage of that. He had it planned the entire time. She probably never even thought that was like a "stage act" to get her alone. He seemed sick & she fell for it. I don't think she loved him,,,, yet.

  • @mssramsunker4820
    @mssramsunker4820 8 місяців тому

    the last case, Coffey, that is like EXTREME ANGER to fly to another country just to attack the person!!! scary!!

  • @KelluyPowell-1985
    @KelluyPowell-1985 9 місяців тому +8

    "Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder?" Is that British? Any other psychologists from the USA out there? What do you think that translates to for us? Intermittent Explosive disorder? He is clearly a sociopath and a narcissist but that can't be described by a personality disorder. I'm sure he had multiple diagnosis. RIP Katie. This is heartbreaking. And this psycho told so many people how sick he was. I wish we could do more as a society about these warnings

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому +3

      I'm wondering maybe BPD? (stands for borderline personality disorder NOT bipolar- before some dipstick embarrasses themselves)
      I also have never heard of that diagnosis

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому

      There's a dude diagnosed with it upthread. I'm going to ask him lol

    • @KelluyPowell-1985
      @KelluyPowell-1985 8 місяців тому +1

      @@pandamandimax yeah I thought borderline too but he seems more like a sociopath

  • @paradise6606
    @paradise6606 9 місяців тому +5

    Turn back ground music off. It's hard enough to make out what you are saying.

  • @Nikisright
    @Nikisright 9 місяців тому +6

    In the second case, if it were young women found, I'm sure the police would've done very differently.

  • @Stacy-
    @Stacy- 8 місяців тому +1

    In the case of Steven, it shouldn't have taken the victim's parents to get the police to investigate these deaths. It was incompetent police & they should be sued for not doing their job. It was obvious that they were all connected, in the same area, under the same circumstances, & killed after a date from an online App. 🙄

  • @sweetmissypetuniawilson9206
    @sweetmissypetuniawilson9206 9 місяців тому +4

    7:46
    Wow Wee!
    It's like the British version of Linda Blair!

  • @GlamGam1964
    @GlamGam1964 9 місяців тому +20

    I saw the British mini-series called The Barking Murders about Steven Port. He is truly evil. But I have to say, what are you expecting by meeting someone on Grindr and meeting up in a train station at 3 am? Is this how relationships or sex or dating are supposed to work? I’m fairly sure the young men were expecting money, but that wasn’t mentioned in this documentary.

    • @jlongino51823
      @jlongino51823 9 місяців тому +5

      Victim blaming is also a problem.

    • @astrialindah2773
      @astrialindah2773 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jlongino51823victim responsibility..... See we're all responsible for picking up on Q's around us in order to keep ourselves safe.....

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому +1

      The gay dating scene is unique. thru history they have had ways to find one another for hookups at odd hours when they'd be out of the public eye. Before the internet it was cruising spots.
      They aren't doing it for money lol. (of course there are male sex workers but on the whole gay men looking for a mate are not doing it for money.)

    • @pandamandimax
      @pandamandimax 9 місяців тому +4

      @jlongino51823 A major problem. The worst thing about it is people actual think they are being clever when they victim blame. But in reality they're appealing to the most base insecurities - there can't be evil people who'd just murder me for no reason - there can't be police and courts that are completely incompetent - therefore what makes me feel safer in my little bubble is to say the victim did something to deserve being murdered. Ahh, now I can go back to my nice safe bubble where nothing ever happens to someone who doesn't "deserve" it.

    • @astrialindah2773
      @astrialindah2773 9 місяців тому +3

      It's actually should be called victim responsibility..... We are all responsible for keeping ourselves safe and that includes not putting ourselves in positions where we are not safe......

  • @criticRN
    @criticRN 8 місяців тому

    My condolences to the victims. I don’t see how anyone can expect the dating apps to “take responsibility”. The first poor victim didn’t sense any danger and went right to his place - how would any changes to the app change that?

  • @rebeccanguyenasher8427
    @rebeccanguyenasher8427 9 місяців тому +2

    How is the app being criticized🤣🤣😳😳 ??? It's the "justice" system that knew he was a clear and present danger that is mostly to blame!

  • @Goodie2shoes-lb9jf
    @Goodie2shoes-lb9jf 8 місяців тому +2

    On line dating is the Devils Playground.

  • @Марго-ц4о
    @Марго-ц4о 8 місяців тому

    Спасибо, что выпускаете такие программы! Это очень важно понимать в настоящем времени!

  • @commonsense2680
    @commonsense2680 9 місяців тому +7

    What has happened to people? Since the year I was born in the 60s until this year 2024 the sexual social behavior of human beings, especially in western countries, has gone from playful but respectable banter to outright animalistic, crass, deviant, BDSM, and acceptance of every kind of sex that was once listed in the DSM as "deviant" behavior. Promiscuity was always predictably high risk especially to women. But now modern technology has taken this sexual obsession to unbelievable perverted heights (and lining up some rich capitalists coat pockets). Some laws that have gone into effect in the last 50 years that have furthered society, but there are also some laws that should never have gone into effect because the ultimate consequence was to remove free will from the citizens, and are otherwise unconstitutional. Then there are laws that have proven to be disastrous on society, that even more horrible laws needed to try and solve the huge problems the horrible laws created. This utter chaos has been growing over the last 50 years. Am I the only person seeing this? The current generation "in charge" seem to be too incompetent or distracted to deal with the complexity of these issues, or cannot even comprehend the issue. Starting with the over obsession with sex in every aspect of our culture, the obsession with material looks and accumulation of "stuff" with no real value. Can anyone name a single leader from ay party that would be a role model to lead this country back before it goes over the brink???

    • @brianal7143
      @brianal7143 8 місяців тому

      Society has pushed this "anything goes" mentality so people think everything is acceptable. It's not. There is a moral code we must follow, many people don't want to believe that anymore.

  • @ieligo7693
    @ieligo7693 9 місяців тому +3

    Seriously!!!!! Noone is making these ppl hook up. Its them putting themselves out there.

    • @DonnaMayStanish
      @DonnaMayStanish 4 місяці тому

      I quite literally just responded this thought. Thank you!
      My moronic sister is on POF for the past ten years. If she's on it, I know it's trash. 😂
      These MEN, not teens, not children, made the conscious decision to hook up with a complete stranger they just met on a hook up app?? SMH. It is beyond disgusting. Why not just take care of business in the shower as a more normal man? 😂. If they wish to meet a decent, good person, become involved in decent, good activities.
      Their behavior was downright foolish and dangerous. Risky, stupid behavior. Of course, I feel bad for them as well as their families and friends. Yet, is it any surprise how it ended for them?
      I also am extremely annoyed with these pathetic excuse for police in this frustrating as all hell video. What is wrong with them??
      It's just sad overall. Just sad.

  • @Elisabeth-l2d
    @Elisabeth-l2d 9 місяців тому +3

    What a sick guy😢😢😢

  • @helie4279
    @helie4279 8 місяців тому +1

    Many fakes and nuts on dating sites..and the pressure to meet after only one message, is immense. You think you find your catch on Plenty of Fish and other sites....and the hunters have you...hook, line and sinker.

  • @tinahochstetler2189
    @tinahochstetler2189 8 місяців тому

    Two weeks isn't long enough even in real life (not online) to meet up alone with a man. 😢
    Please be very cautious and be safe out there. Single people used to go out on double dates or group dates so they were always with a friend or two or more. I think dating has just changed so much over the years and turned into something that's very dangerous.

  • @lavendergal2508
    @lavendergal2508 8 місяців тому

    Many of us remember before that was the Internet that people used to put classified ads in the newspaper to try to meet people. This online dating is exactly the same as what was done pre-Internet. It was just a scary back then as it is today and Just as dangerous

  • @bquietsouhear
    @bquietsouhear 8 місяців тому +1

    "She didn't just meet him for a hookup. This was planned over a period of two weeks".
    Oh, well that's different!🙄

  • @theoryofpersonality1420
    @theoryofpersonality1420 8 місяців тому

    8:27 the definition of submerged. descend below the surface of an area of water.
    "the U-boat had had time to submerge"
    He should have said covered with leaves as she was not buried nor submerged.

  • @tawneealexander7125
    @tawneealexander7125 8 місяців тому

    I love the intense woman doing the commentary 😂
    Shes SO intense when TALKING EMPHASIZING every OTHER word 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    I like her 😊

  • @ellybean5868
    @ellybean5868 9 місяців тому +15

    Brits accent is so much nicer than how we talk in the US

  • @nothingworksworks3511
    @nothingworksworks3511 8 місяців тому +1

    That poetry would have been a red flag. I mean...

  • @nettiea9384
    @nettiea9384 8 місяців тому

    I dated before social media existed and I found it difficult to mk connections. SM expands ur options and I wd hv loved that but like so many things in the world today u can’t let ur guard down. It is like a job. Everything is like a job! Nothing is effortless or organic. U hv to run criminal and financial checks u hv to meet ppls family’s and investigate their past relationships and interview their associates.

  • @mssramsunker4820
    @mssramsunker4820 8 місяців тому

    I have been off and on dating sites in the past (and no, did not have the LUCK of finding the one, did not go past the 1st date 🙂) gosh the strange ones in the past; but not dangerous men! I followed protocols, met in public spaces etc I think on many dating apps today, this has turned into a nightmare for many as there are predators on it, sadly! Carl what a monster!! RIP beautiful Katie! Greetings from South Africa!

  • @auriculares02
    @auriculares02 8 місяців тому

    Wow, in the case of these perpetrators, what’s outside really reflects what’s inside - ugliness.

  • @KathyMeza-l9s
    @KathyMeza-l9s 8 місяців тому +1

    Yes I did plenty of fish site and I thank my luck that nothing horrible happened but the people were a bit scary when you met

  • @MadamSmith-vr1dy
    @MadamSmith-vr1dy 6 місяців тому

    PoF is definetly the worst of the dating sites, though all of them are terrible. Not only do you have to worry about sickos you gotta worry about cops catfishing, among other monstrosities. IT'S INSANE.

  • @MaryFaulkner-r3k
    @MaryFaulkner-r3k 8 місяців тому +1

    It was because of social media that this diabolical individual was caught
    It’s a delicate balance

  • @SatieSatie
    @SatieSatie 8 місяців тому

    That psychologist always talks with such an intensity in her face that it's hard to watch anything with her in it.

  • @coderlicious6565
    @coderlicious6565 8 місяців тому +1

    Minimum of 26 years for someone who admitted to just deciding to strangle someone on a whim. Why someone lives in a country that kind of useless criminal justice system, don't know.

  • @travelwithtony5767
    @travelwithtony5767 9 місяців тому +9

    If you’re looking for love online, you’re looking for love in all the wrong places.
    Malls or grocery stores are ideal, and whenever you go on the date, turn your phones off and don’t turn them on again until the date ends.

    • @marniekilbourne608
      @marniekilbourne608 9 місяців тому +8

      Nobody goes to malls much anymore and I've never once met anyone at the grocery store.

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 9 місяців тому +8

      Go to the dog park.
      Go outside.
      Go places you are attracted to like bookstore. Events. Seminars. Anywhere with people.
      Even a bar is better than online anything.
      Stay alive.

    • @jenna-a-gogo
      @jenna-a-gogo 9 місяців тому +6

      I'll have to tell my cousin that. I guess he'll have to divorce his wife and the mother of his children, since they first met online. 🙄

    • @travelwithtony5767
      @travelwithtony5767 9 місяців тому +2

      @@jenna-a-gogo
      No don’t do that, if you don’t tell him that will mean this is no chance whatsoever that he will ever divorce his wife.
      Please don’t.

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 9 місяців тому

      @jenna-a-gogo good for all the lucky ones that met online.
      Some people prefer real life and are not online types.
      People deserve options. And choices. Everyone I know only went online because they thought it was the only way..which is a lie.

  • @janiebarber5772
    @janiebarber5772 9 місяців тому +2

    Hi Emma! Great to see you on here in your psych role!

  • @JessicaLerma-b1q
    @JessicaLerma-b1q 8 місяців тому

    All the things they listed he could exactly well be.When people get into relationships or move in together people will display if they have anger or rage issues.Sometimes they themselves can’t see they have behavioral issues until in a relationship

  • @octavianr526
    @octavianr526 8 місяців тому

    She should leave him instantly after seeing him drunk or pretending to be drunk. How can educated women stand such men is beyond understanding. A man who overdrinks in his first meeting is a field of red flags and no-no-go.

  • @207BLCKBER
    @207BLCKBER Місяць тому

    "Police however, didn't like the death's"
    It's literally inpossoble not to lonk them. In fact they're so similar that one that's aware of both death's would have to question if the reports were mistakenly crossed over with a wrong name identifying the second victim.

  • @kostasvrionis781
    @kostasvrionis781 9 місяців тому +4

    Να ερωτευτης από το ίντερνετ !! Πολύ επικίνδυνο το λέω αυτό γιατί πέρασα μια τρομερή ιστορία με μια γυναίκα 4 χρόνια πίσω..ευτυχώς που είμαι τέσσερις χιλιάδες χλμ μακριά..

  • @deborahroberts2777
    @deborahroberts2777 9 місяців тому

    What level of consciousness..he knew he will be believed by using that narrative

  • @aceshigh5157
    @aceshigh5157 8 місяців тому

    omg emma kenny! what a surprise to see her here!

  • @lisytrinh5231
    @lisytrinh5231 8 місяців тому

    The word ”hopeful” is very MISLEADING in all these stories. I also came to the impression that this was ONLY ONE story, not a few 🙄

  • @bridgetamato6182
    @bridgetamato6182 8 місяців тому

    When you are young under 40 meet people out and about at University or friends. End of Story. The best you can do for your child is teach them to be street smart and protect themselves.

  • @carmeldelaney1086
    @carmeldelaney1086 9 місяців тому +1

    Poor girl!

  • @combatduckie
    @combatduckie 8 місяців тому +2

    you cannot seriously look for true love on a page such as "plenty of fish" IMO....it s just for xes now, but maybe back in 2015 it was different....

    • @dabsallday9938
      @dabsallday9938 8 місяців тому

      I met my husband on POF back in 2010 when it was an actual dating site! 😂From what I hear, it’s turned into sex workers paradise!

  • @breathnstop
    @breathnstop 8 місяців тому

    You can't just accept a person's credentials as fact. You have to get to know them in public with their friends family where all their lies fall apart. And excessive drinking is a huge red flags. She had no obligation to this man. Call an ambulance for him and go home.

  • @אילייןלוי
    @אילייןלוי 8 місяців тому

    ...He REPORTED this psycho to the App,twice!😡..he may have been alive ,if theyde have listened

  • @JessaLynn8
    @JessaLynn8 9 місяців тому +2

    What GARBAGE detectives! They not only need to be FIRED, but they need to be charged themselves! They have ONE damn job ffs. And these are Young Kids we're talking about! Lives WOULD have been SAVED if they would have actually done their damn jobs.

  • @smnvo1129
    @smnvo1129 8 місяців тому +2

    A monster.