Suzuki s40 650/ Honda shadow 750 comparison

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  • Опубліковано 3 лис 2024

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  • @csj9619
    @csj9619 Рік тому +3

    I've got a 2005 S-40 I bought brand new. After it was paid off I turned it into a chopper. She's got 50K on the clock and I still like it as much as the day I bought it. It's been the most dependable vehicle I've owned.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  Рік тому

      Awesome! I hope mine goes as long as I do. Or I go as long as it does!

  • @jasonmartin747
    @jasonmartin747 4 роки тому +19

    Nice view of the grass.......a lot of grass lol

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому +1

      I am "FEILDING" a comparison.

  • @jess7819-z3d
    @jess7819-z3d 5 років тому +7

    I like your taste in bikes. I love the simplicity of the S40 that you don't get with most modern bikes.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому +2

      YOU GET IT! I also appreciate that. my Honda is much more complicated.

  • @Grimexperience62
    @Grimexperience62 2 дні тому

    I really enjoyed this video. I have really learned to appreciate my S40. Bigger is NOT always better..

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  2 дні тому

      THANK YOU. my arthritis tells me bigger is not better. I can enjoy motorcycle riding as insurance cost for smaller displacement bikes is more affordable here in B.C. Canada. i can plate 2 bikes for less than one 1600 cc $40,000 bike.

  • @alejandroochoa3541
    @alejandroochoa3541 3 роки тому +4

    Theres something about the slim, minimal look of the S40. Its very attractive to me when a bike is like this

  • @billytscherne4643
    @billytscherne4643 4 роки тому +5

    Engines are designed around the octane they recommend , higher octane means it has faster igniting time . If the manufacturer calls for 87 then 87 is what it is .

  • @industrystandard6858
    @industrystandard6858 3 роки тому +4

    Great video, thanks. I'm literally choosing between these 2 bikes so this was perfect for me.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому

      which one will you choose? both?

  • @psalm2forliberty577
    @psalm2forliberty577 6 місяців тому +1

    Phil, what do you consider a long (overnight ?) tour on either bike ?
    Do any Moto Camping ?
    I'm wondering how mid size cruisers fare in touring scenarios.
    I'm just beginning to plan my several smaller or 1 large summer tour.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  6 місяців тому +1

      I have not done a lot of touring, but 2 yrs back I did a 1800 km trip with friends, vids are on this channel. My saddle bags are soft-side removable, they fit both bikes. I like being able to quickly remove them, to take into restaurant or room with me.it was a good trip. i would have done a trip last year, but wildfire threat kept me home b/c evac was likely. I did a 700km on the s40, it was fine, 12 liter tank requires frequent refuel. I may do a run thru okanagan this summer. s40 gets 55-60 mpg and 750 shadow gets 60-65 mpg has 14 litre (350+ km range). both on regular gas. Both bikes easily tour at posted speeds. I did hit 120 kmh on the freeway, but I prefer cruising at 100-90 kmh to give myself more time to observe traffic and respond. where there is light traffic and great scenery i slow down to 80 kmh. My largest consideration = fuel cost, insurance cost, reliability. These 3 things forged my choices. the s40 is belt drive, the honda = shaft drive. No chains to clean, oil, adjust. Im 5'8" and 210 lbs, i get around effortlessly on either bike. The HONDA has a nicer seat, but frequent stops are necessary because numb bum is real. expensive seats may or may not reduce numb bum circulation rest frequency. Im a BUDGET conscious rider, I know bigger faster bikes burn more gas, get more speeding tickets. Personally, getting speeding tickets ruins the entire trip.
      i hope that helps. ride safe.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  6 місяців тому +1

      I realize I did not answer all your questions. I do not CAMP much, I get a room. For some reason, biting bugs love the flavor of me, so I avoid camping in bug season . if i camp with others, i get eaten alive, they get ignored. I guess I am delicious.

  • @jeremycbarnhart2305
    @jeremycbarnhart2305 3 роки тому +2

    BEST VIDEO EVER!!!!!!!!
    So I walked into our local dealership to snag a jacket and I saw the 2013 S40 Boulevard.......
    I was FLOORED!
    "What is this..." I wondered.....
    Because I own a 2006 Shadow Aero that the S40 looked IDENTICAL to shocked me.
    So now I'm considering DOWNGRADING just to enjoy and maybe use a little more to get into smaller places, camping, etc.
    But anyway...
    DANG!
    Seeing someone else with both makes me happy!

    • @jeremycbarnhart2305
      @jeremycbarnhart2305 3 роки тому

      Ps. My 2006 shadow is quiet and was part of why I bought it.
      It starts and idles without raising a voice.
      I HATE loudness from a bike and I was surprised it was so quiet.
      Maybe the years affect it?

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому

      i'm not sure downgrading is accurate, I would say, you are diversifying. Having options ROCKS. A lighter, nimbler, more manageable bike for close to home transport or leisure cruises is very satisfying. similar acceleration performance is confidence building. s40 motorcycles are a lot like a very comfortable walking shoe. Every time I ride mine I am once again glad I did.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому +1

      @@jeremycbarnhart2305 My Son's 2011 is louder than my 2014, I suspect corrosion may be the reason, but I HAVE met guys who think every bike should cause earsplitting migraine headaches always and forever. One guy offered to drill out the baffle for me with his home-job extra-long drill bit. He was shocked when I declined. It is nice to have a bike that you can have running WHILE conversing, and still hear every word spoken. I LIKE the quiet base thump of the large single cylinder. (AND that occasional backfire) adds character.

    • @jeremycbarnhart2305
      @jeremycbarnhart2305 3 роки тому

      @@PhilHewkin Amen!
      Yeah, The description of starting the boulevard is how my '06 sounds. Gentle rumble, but can still talk without yelling at all.
      Great bikes!
      I'm SO TEMPTED to buy the Boulevard. Beautiful bike.

  • @Christian-sd8fe
    @Christian-sd8fe Рік тому

    Great review and comparison. I had an Aero a couple years ago, and just purchased S40 (thanks btw). However, I couldn't help but think that you sound alot like Bob Ross: "There are no motorcyle crashes, just happy accidents!"

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  Рік тому

      HA HA! That is funny. BOB ROSS. maybe i should mimic his style when i make vids. i am an artist, after all. "if BOB ROSS rode motorbikes...

  • @normandauphin1066
    @normandauphin1066 3 роки тому +2

    Great comparison, enjoyed your video. I roll with the S40

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому

      Thank you, Norman. ride safe.

    • @Zero0806
      @Zero0806 8 місяців тому

      Looks a lot like my 88 shadow

  • @dougest6578
    @dougest6578 5 років тому +5

    I’ve had both bikes, the Hondian (Honda ) was more relaxed, heavier and had more room to sit and move around. The Suzuki was smaller and easier to ride and maneuver around. Acceleration seemed about the same. The 650 better around town and the 750 better on the highway. You are lucky to have both at the same time.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому +1

      Thank You, Doug, you are correct, I am fortunate. I have a ways to go until the Shadow is paid off, I plan to keep both bikes. I had hoped maybe one day my wife might ride with me, but that is unlikely. I cant figure out which bike I like best, As long as I have ability to ride, I mean to keep both. Summer is short here, and a breakdown or wait for parts can take months. This way I should be able to ride the other in any event.

    • @dougest6578
      @dougest6578 5 років тому +1

      @@PhilHewkin I live in the central valley of California so can ride all year long, except for a few rainy days in the winter. (12 inch annual rainfall) I went thru a number of bikes in- cluding FZ6 and Harley before my current ride. A Honda 300 Forza scooter. works well in town and on Highways. The automatic twist and go is great. quick on takeoff but slower acceleration at speeds over 60 mph. is a great compromise for all around and can haul a ton of stuff under the seat or in the tail box. I keep thinking of getting a motorcycle again, but hate to lose the automatic transmission. The DCT's are not as quick off the line. LOL Ride safe and sound.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому +1

      @@dougest6578 There is some big scooters, Yamaha and SUZUKI make, MSG motovlog has a 600cc he doubles his girlfriend at hiway speed! Does anyone tease you about riding a scooter? I know I have received criticism for riding my s40, I guess my appearance and attitude cause people to think I should be riding H.D., truth is, They are over priced in Canada, my son won a 2016 soft tail slim, they retail at $20,000.oo cdn, the insurance on anything over 1100cc here in British Columbia is about $300 per month for basic coverage.

    • @dougest6578
      @dougest6578 5 років тому +1

      @@PhilHewkin I can out run most bikes from 0-30, if that doesn't work I will race them for MPG. LOL Most people I ride with have no problem with my scoot. The bigger scoots, like the Honda 600, are not as good in town. I always ride solo as my wife won't ride, so the 300 works well for me. I'm also 71 years young. I'm old enough to have bought a Kawasaki 500 Mach lll new. At the time it was the quickest vehicle made.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому +1

      @@dougest6578I hear you, weight is an issue for me, my arthritic joints don't like heavy bikes. The s40 is easy to maneuver. I really notice the difference when im sore, the Honda's extra 185 lbs. Im 57 but my joints say im 85.

  • @fine2dreamw618
    @fine2dreamw618 Рік тому +1

    Boulevard single cylinder, Shadow V twin?

  • @joepogiest
    @joepogiest 4 роки тому +1

    getting mine this Sunday!! s40 NiiiiiiiceeeeeeEEEE!!!!!

  • @wolfmanrebel874
    @wolfmanrebel874 5 років тому +1

    As for the gas comment unfortunately I believe you are right, I have an engine that will ping like all hell if not high grade,their is a couple places around here I get premium and it pings under load just like low grade,getting fuel at my local mom and pop station don't do this

  • @glenmaher438
    @glenmaher438 5 років тому +1

    Great job mate, I enjoyed it emencely... From Aussie...

  • @bradmacdonald7983
    @bradmacdonald7983 3 роки тому

    Interesting comparison. S40 was my first bike. Missnit

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому

      thank You. I plan to keep mine!

  • @khodam881
    @khodam881 3 роки тому +1

    It was one of the best reviews I have seen. If it was about grass

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому

      hee hee . They legalized grass here in Canada. a popular move. I don't smoke it.

  • @ABCDEFGHIJKELA...
    @ABCDEFGHIJKELA... 2 роки тому

    The S40 definitely beats the shadow from light to light, I've tested it several times, it's mainly because it's a much lighter bike. The Shadow is the one I'd pick if I was riding more than 30-50 miles for sure, it's by FAR more comfortable on the open road.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  2 роки тому

      I bet that isaccurate, I would like to test that theory. I raced my youngest son one telphone length on the 2011 s40, he was on his2000 savage. I took lead on both bikes. The rider makes a difference. I use to ride a 1980 yamaha exciter 250 for about 10 years starting in 1980. I know how to make them go. I could probably use the yt video counter to confirm it. Will have to try it next year, insurance ran out on the shadow aug 30. Im falling in love with my s40 all over again.

  • @58landman
    @58landman 3 роки тому +1

    I doubt you're gonna win any Oscars for your camera work.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому +1

      And that is, What I call, A compliment.

    • @SaintsPurgatory
      @SaintsPurgatory 3 роки тому

      Oscars? When you have two very cool bikes in your stable why is an Oscar necessary?

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube 2 роки тому

      @@SaintsPurgatory His comment went over your head

  • @raydownes3289
    @raydownes3289 5 років тому +1

    Ah the two bike problem, which one do I ride today. I had this problem last summer, I owned a S40 and S50. Got a great deal on the S40 and sold it for a profit of $200.00.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому

      its a good problem to have. I plan to ride it out and enjoy it as long as it lasts.

  • @andrewp6314
    @andrewp6314 2 роки тому +2

    Might wanna point the camera at the motorcycles instead of the grass next time 😉

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  2 роки тому

      that was the plan , newcamera + bright sunlight + gopro back screen shuts off after a few minutes. most ly better at running it now.

  • @hildtonmcconnell5626
    @hildtonmcconnell5626 5 років тому

    Great Video I just got a S40 to go with my Versys X 300 the Versys X I have 33 liter hard bags, engine guard and lights as well as heated grips and hand shields. and a power outlet. The Versys x will be for long distances and shopping and keeping the S 40 2019 stock just the back rest and rear carrier, from Suzuki . The S40 will be for day rids and my 100 km + rides witch I try to do every day when the weather is good. 2 different bikes love them, one as much as the other just.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому

      what year, and color is your S40? To my eye, the S40 is a great looking bike. im stuck in my reclining arm chair till march or april, winter is upon us in the frozen north of British Columbia. No snow yet, but its subzero temperatures these days. I got the blues.

    • @hildtonmcconnell5626
      @hildtonmcconnell5626 5 років тому

      @@PhilHewkin The S 40 is a 2019 gray tank the rest of the bike black. Went for a ride yesterday only got 140 Km on so far. To me it is the best looking bike out there. Going to put a back rest and rear rack from Suzuki on. Want to keep it stock been wanting one from the first year they came out with the yellow one, but had just bough another bike then so hard to go for a second bike with in 2 weeks. Have ridden a few over the years, and always put a smile on my face. I will use the Versys X for touring and shopping and the S40 for those 100 Km day rides.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому

      @@hildtonmcconnell5626 I sure know my way around town better due to casual riding. I have explored all the new subdivisions and construction. Now, if I could just remember the names of the roads!

    • @hildtonmcconnell5626
      @hildtonmcconnell5626 5 років тому

      @@PhilHewkin I am a country boy, try to stay away from towns, Love the back roads but get lost a lot, and the map is always in the other bike of at home. When I was younger had a sense of direction but at 70 seam to have lost it. It is raining hear so sitting at home dreaming of getting on the bike, Hope to get some more riding in this year. Have heated grips on the Vesersy but want to keep the S 40 stock and the control just would not look good on that bike. The more I look at the S 40 the more I like the looks, thinking of bringing It in the living room for the winter. But worried about the cats doing in the seat, they love to get there claws in to every thing,

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому

      @@hildtonmcconnell5626 I was tempted to bring my bikes in to the house also. My wife would go nuts. So I built a nice add on shelter to my garage. I have to cover them up, but I need to run the honda some to get the seafoam into the injectors. I like to look at them, that iswhy they haven't been covered up yet for winter. This city is about 65.000 I live in, I like that I can drive 20 minutes and be out of town.

  • @justinwallen2911
    @justinwallen2911 3 роки тому

    Nice bikes I have a 2003 Suzuki Boulevard. I go to Wawa and put ethanol free gas just easier maintenance on the carburetor have a good day

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому

      The farm gas here use to be ethanol free, they mark it with color dye. If they catch you on the road with color dye in your carb, they will give you a big fine here in canuckistan. I think the chainsaw shops sell ethanol free fuel here but it is not cheap.

    • @justinwallen2911
      @justinwallen2911 3 роки тому

      @@PhilHewkin I live in Florida it's almost $3 a gallon

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  3 роки тому

      @@justinwallen2911 $3 a gallon US = $4 a gallon in Canada. that is what regular gas (87) with ethanol costs here.

    • @justinwallen2911
      @justinwallen2911 3 роки тому

      @@PhilHewkin 2.65

  • @renniey
    @renniey 4 роки тому

    I have had both bikes and always use Amsoil 10/40 both ran quieter and shifted better:)

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому

      have you tried the HONDA brand oil?

  • @PhilHewkin
    @PhilHewkin  5 років тому

    damn go pro can view screen shuts off after a moment, so you cant see what you are aiming the camera at. you can touch-screen to turn it on again, which I did. I might put some text on the lawn eventually, some specs on those bikes. future stuff to do.

  • @hammy4949
    @hammy4949 4 роки тому

    Most S40's I've seen have a discolored exaust pipe. How did you avoid this on your bike? Or was a new pipe installed after your crash? Thx.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому

      That is the orignal pipe. My Son's 2011 has the discolored pipe. Apparently, the discoloration depends on the nickle plating. Some bikes had better adherance and thicker chrome. I got lucky. You might find a chrome shiny pipe online, if someone is parting an s40 out. re-chroming may be an option, but i bet it is not cheap.

    • @hammy4949
      @hammy4949 4 роки тому

      @@PhilHewkin Thanks for the reply. Has your son tried polishing the discoloration out of his pipe? I had a Virago 750 that had a blued pipe when I got it and I was able to remove all of the discoloration with a polish that was designed specifically for that problem. I've been considering a S40, but must admit I find the discolored pipe somewhat unattractive. I don't know if using a polish frequently might eventually do more damage than good.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому

      @@hammy4949 No, My Son never tried that. We polished his s40 with plexus last week, he was impressed, he said he is ordering some. I thought the colors looked kind of cool, like a warning not to touch, it looks hot even when it is not. I bet a used one is the best option cost wise.

    • @dwbiggly6907
      @dwbiggly6907 3 роки тому

      Wear the discolored exhaust pipe like a badge of honor. Looks beautiful to me!

    • @csj9619
      @csj9619 Рік тому +2

      Drill out the brass plug covering the air/fuel mix screw on the carb then turn the flathead mix screw counterclockwise about a quarter turn to a half turn to richen up the air/ fuel ratio. These bikes all came lean from the factory to pass emmissions, that's what turns the exhaust blue or gold. If this isn't clear, just search "Mikuni BS40 air/fuel mix screw".

  • @willstorm8331
    @willstorm8331 4 роки тому

    The s40 looks a lot lighter more of a sportster feel in comparison to an ACE or an AERO. The shadow 750s might be a better comparison with a closer weight balance.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому

      The 750 honda spirit is probably a closer match style, with the skinny front wheel, I think the spirit is 20-40 lbs lighter than the aero. However, I do not have a spirit, so I did the best I could with what I have.

  • @antondahl8945
    @antondahl8945 5 років тому +1

    I have both of these bikes too!

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому +1

      cool! same color? -first time I owned 2 bikes at the same time.

    • @antondahl8945
      @antondahl8945 5 років тому

      @@PhilHewkin no 2004 Aero 750 is a burgundy and the 2006 S40 is black. Was just riding the S40. Love the torque and effortless acceleration! I don't need a bike to get going any faster than it does. It is just right. So nice and light,as well as narrow. Controllable too. A great looking bike. Your two bikes are beauties.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому +1

      @@antondahl8945 nice. I almost bought an 07 shadow, red, when this 2014 came up, same price. every time I hop on my s40, I am impressed with the maneuverability. I strive to keep within posted speed limits, my most enjoyable rides include not stressing about speeding fines.

  • @KUBBI7488
    @KUBBI7488 2 роки тому

    I have both bikes! Shadow is way heavier bike in town ! I like s40 way better!
    My s40 is same color lol

  • @CMFOT
    @CMFOT 4 роки тому

    I broke my tailbone when I was a teenager just doing stupid stuff, it never feels the same after.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому +1

      2nd time for me, first time healed up after 5 years or so, Its been 2 years now, I doubt it will ever be the same, as you say. Still got to ride, just not much over an hour at a time.

    • @58landman
      @58landman 3 роки тому

      Ha, just wait until you get older and arthritis sets in.

  • @zipidachimp
    @zipidachimp 5 років тому +2

    Your S40 will benefit from a higher zinc content oil, such as Shell Rotella 15w40, due to an older cam design. Come and join us Thumpers at Suzukisavage.com. Lots of help, advice and some nonsense, ps; seems I live your neck of the woods, Surrey!

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому

      You are only 900 km away! I have been using synthetic AMSOIL 15-40 metric. Its about $15 per litre, I am hoping I am using adequate quality lube, I will look into that shell product though.

    • @zipidachimp
      @zipidachimp 5 років тому

      @@PhilHewkin here is the oil discussion. Bear in mind it's been going on for a decade or so, but Rotella is the consensus favorite; suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565 Also, with a compression ratio of 8.5:1, any regular gas is OK.

    • @alejandroochoa3541
      @alejandroochoa3541 3 роки тому

      I’ve got a few questions for my S40 that i’m planning on getting

  • @Legendary-Ant
    @Legendary-Ant 4 роки тому

    I have a suzuki boulevard and a honda shadow amc

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому

      what year, color? Do you mean a shadow ACE?

  • @manocornuta5970
    @manocornuta5970 2 роки тому

    Big Single is awesome.

  • @dynamoz5191
    @dynamoz5191 5 років тому

    Would you reccomend the s40 for a beginner?

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  5 років тому +1

      YES, very much so! Even intermediate skilled riders can enjoy this bike, I would recommend twisty, curvy roads for them. you can lean hard before you make contact with the foot pegs. The weight factor, I think, the S40 is very nimble easy handling, and a lower first gear for easy starts, better for beginners.

    • @benringenberg2367
      @benringenberg2367 4 роки тому

      I bought an s40 as my first bike, and I love everything about it. It is enough speed to enjoy without getting in trouble and just a blast to ride.

    • @tomspaulding4321
      @tomspaulding4321 4 роки тому +1

      I got the S 50 as my first bikeright now and I love it I believe the only difference is it my get up to 60 a little faster in my TopSpeed will probably be 140 instead of 120 oh whatever yours is basically all things that don’t matter they’re comfortable bikes I probablyShould have gotten the S 40 I’m only 5footfive 125pounds By the way my bikes get in there early 50 miles to the gallon but I mean I Drag race for a Weather since I was 16

  • @edbiernot4852
    @edbiernot4852 2 роки тому

    It's called un-leaded

  • @BEEBEE159
    @BEEBEE159 4 роки тому

    CORRECTION: The recommended fuel grade has to do with the IGNITION TIMING, NOT THE CARB SETTINGS.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому

      Good to know, and, Thank you! I burn regular (87) works for me.

    • @Big_John_C
      @Big_John_C 4 роки тому

      Higher octane does NOT cause lean burn, just easier to ignite in a higher compression engine like the S40 has ( they come from the factory running very lean) hence the bluing of the header pipe.

    • @BEEBEE159
      @BEEBEE159 4 роки тому

      @@Big_John_C I think what I really meant to say is that it affects the ignition timing. I'm not sure how ignition is adjusted on motorcycles; but, on old cars, using higher octane fuel would require adjusting the distributor.

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому +1

      @@BEEBEE159 sounds like it is just cheaper, more practical to stick with regular gasoline.

  • @joshuaherring7246
    @joshuaherring7246 4 роки тому

    My s40 isn’t as shiny as urs wow

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  4 роки тому +1

      PLEXUS! stuff works great.

    • @klassinator
      @klassinator 3 роки тому

      Where do you get Plexus in Canada?

  • @frogman1055
    @frogman1055 2 місяці тому

    Why are you filming the grass. Thumbs down for you

    • @PhilHewkin
      @PhilHewkin  2 місяці тому

      Who invited you, frogman ? If you don’t like my video content, then I recommend fuck off.