My friend have in 1999. GVX210 when I have Matrox G400. On these years we work together on video production. He work on 3D graphics and I work on video editing. On these days both card was best solutions for our work. Great days.
when testing Oxygen VX1 (single Glint R3 chipset), i saw that the card doesent like "high quality" textures or fast texture loading/movement or trilinear filtering, actually nothing with textures :) . I did see a nice speed improvement when using bilinear textures or lower texture quality or both...
Been looking at the results for 3DMark 99 and 2K, you get allmost exact same scores as the single glint R3(i get a bit higher in 3D99, you get higher scores in 3D2K and quake). Maybe this card isn`t exactly a multi gpu card(no "SLI") and is more of a multi monitor card(one chip for each monitor) ? . I`ve tested on a P3 1Ghz, i815 chipset, 512mb pc133 cl2 ram.
The Texture Filtering seems superb on the 3Dlabs. Ists crisp to the end. The VOODOO 5 does not use the same quality settings. So thats maybe the reason the 3DLABS card does not takeoff that much.
good comparison, I wonder if 3dlabs invested more into drivers and game optimization if they could compete more. But again, a completely different market and completely different prices. Now you can't buy a 3dfx v5 for cheap, but the oxygen cards are cheap
@@UA-camTookMyNickname.WhyNot no it was just a bit later once the nVIDIA GeForce 256 came out & then the first graphics accelerator with GeForce DDR memory. This was the card to fight the VooDoo 5 & VooDoo 6 (that never made it to the public). The TNT 2 Ultra was fighting the VooDoo 3. Great time for hardware & most important for enthusiasts!
Unbelievable Voodoo 5 in a box i have two voodoo 2 but they are broken, they are showing artifacts but still i admire how awesome they are but Voodoo 5 and in a box crazy
I might be wrong but oxygen look much better in quake 3 next to the voodoo. The textures look crisp and sharp when on the voodoo they look blurry and washed also to much contrast on the voodoo (hides some of the problems). With this sad i still love the V5 5500 :D!
Yeah because pci and agp couldn't deliver enough power. Their max was like 25w. So it's not a case of these cards used so much power, just too much for the slots. Even the 6000 just had a consumption of around 70w
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Hello retro hardware. I will have a question for you. I want to find a 16gb ram supported motherboard with 775 socket xeon processor and overclock the processor, fill all the ram slots on the motherboard. I want to install gtx 1050ti on this computer. Do you think I would have done anything good? thanks for your answer.
Merhaba! Not the guy who made the video, but I had a computer just like that. It is a very fun combination, but keep in mind that even a heavily overclocked 771 Xeon is somewhat underpowered for a 1050Ti. But yeah, go for a P35, X38, P45, X48 chipset, get low density (usually double sided) 4x4GB DDR3 RAM, and it should be a rather fun system to overclock. If you're just going for a cheap gaming rig, a much better choice would be a socket 1156 or 1155 system.
Voodoo 5 brings back memories as it was my first ever GPU. PCI variant. I wish I still had it as it served me well and then Nvidia began to take over and 3DFX was gone.
Can I ask you a question? What is the best socket 370 motherboard to use? I have a Compaq 187498, when I try to turn it on, the fan goes for one second, then stops.
sehr schön gemacht hab selber eine 3dlabs gmx 2000 agb 16 mb + 80 mb von 1998 mit ein pci-agp adapter auf ein asus p5p800 bord mit p4 640 mit 3366 mhz als alltags rechner für internet !
Do you know that nVIDIA at the timev said that SLI & multiple GPU's is bad design but then after years they implanted the technology them selves. They also said that it's bad that the graphic adapter needs extra power & now I need to connect my nVIDIA Cards to my PSU 😀
@@johnnychang4233 i thought the same, but if its bottlenecked, the v5 may be bottlenecked too. But more important to me would be a final chart and a conclusion at the end of the vid. So everyone can classify use cases for the oxygen. To be honest, i didnt know much about the card. Would love to see more such comparisons in the future :-)
Both cards are year 2000. With Oxygen you are limited by AGP Pro interface. Not so many setups with this AGP slot revision. Boards like Asus P4C800 s478 has AGP PRO but 8x.
great video can you tell me what is the key to activate the boot menu on a winfast k8s 755m motherboard ? because i would like to install ibm os / 2 warp 4 on it . MY build : winfast k8s 755m , amd athlon 64 3000+ , 2 gigs ram ddr , 320gb maxtor hard drive , nvidia geforce 5500fx and psu kolink 500w
3DFX VooDoo for games 3D Labs Oxygen for HIGHEND 3D GRAPHICS This is a bad comparison.. Do VooDoo VS Oxygen in Softimage 3D 3.7 | Extreme.. You would not be able to do it, because VooDoo would not even run in this application. VooDoo is NOT A FULL SPECIFICATION OPENGL CARD. These cards have SPECIFIC purpose, one is for gaming, the other for highend 3D graphics software (Softimage, Alias, Wavefront etc..).
man i remember that 3D mark 99 racer demo. it was so cool! i always wished it was a real game. speaking of which, did you notice that the port / waterside area of the 2000 demo looks eerily similar to the area in the thief remake in the overworld city? i wonder if the thief level designers got inspired!
Did''nt they had a video card codename WildCAT something? i remember it vaguely i live in the netherlands such stuff becomes more rare even simple voodoo 2s... i cannot find those anyways thanks for sharing awsome video of hardware i didnt knew they're were existing
I had voodoo 3 2000 @183MHz and i had better or close results to this voodoo5. So or you have win xp or bad drivers, maybe need instal glide for voodoo.
Hi my friend, i was searching for weeks for a liquid cooler or cpu waterblock for 478, where did u bought it and for how much, also good vid, i didnt know the existence of that grafics card
You're just gonna have to hope to find a used one, or take an existing CPU water block and modify it to fit, or somehow make your own, those are your only options.
Did a game existed and exploited every aspect possible & offered by this generation of card. In glide or in direct3d. Which game use all effects and top the pixel rate offered by this generation ? Which game can saturate a voodoo 56000 only sized in 1024x768 ? Is a game has ever used all the effect, the arts offered by this generation ? lol
@@Pidalin LS3D engine is bad optimized. Ok it can be launched without problems even with a Pentium 2 Slot1 with Riva TNT 2 M64... but performance? Even with Pentium 4 478 or Athlon Barton 462 there are stuttering problems. Old but high-end hardware are now cheap. So there is no reason to play it with lower end hardware.
@@Stermy57HW Have you tried another LS3D games like Vietcong? That engine has big problem with mod for unlimited draw distance, but without mods it's ok, but I can imagine in 2002 it needed really good HW, I was playing it on FX5200 and PIII 550 MHz which is crap and it was playiable without problem. But I was 12 years old, I really don't know how much FPS was there. I remember only that FarCry was unplayable.
I used to work in a UK factory where we built & tested GVX210 cards back in 1998 or so. Fun times
My friend have in 1999. GVX210 when I have Matrox G400. On these years we work together on video production. He work on 3D graphics and I work on video editing. On these days both card was best solutions for our work. Great days.
Nice test, good work my friend. Saludos de Argentina 😊
vodoo 5 for gaming / oxygen gvx210 for drawing
Voodoo's were throwing Full HD and 1440 before it was popular, amazing!
Full HD? Definitely not. Maybe the 6000 can do closer.
I was waiting for this comparison! You are the best man! :D
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thanks retro hardware for showing me the retro computer world well
when testing Oxygen VX1 (single Glint R3 chipset), i saw that the card doesent like "high quality" textures or fast texture loading/movement or trilinear filtering, actually nothing with textures :) .
I did see a nice speed improvement when using bilinear textures or lower texture quality or both...
Been looking at the results for 3DMark 99 and 2K, you get allmost exact same scores as the single glint R3(i get a bit higher in 3D99, you get higher scores in 3D2K and quake).
Maybe this card isn`t exactly a multi gpu card(no "SLI") and is more of a multi monitor card(one chip for each monitor) ? .
I`ve tested on a P3 1Ghz, i815 chipset, 512mb pc133 cl2 ram.
This card is triple GPU on paper. Second thing if and how any game/bench can use these GPUs. Yep also it is dual monitor like Matrox for example.
The Texture Filtering seems superb on the 3Dlabs. Ists crisp to the end. The VOODOO 5 does not use the same quality settings. So thats maybe the reason the 3DLABS card does not takeoff that much.
Whenever all valuable ressources will be exhausted, they will fore sure going to knock onto your door. Awesome...
good comparison, I wonder if 3dlabs invested more into drivers and game optimization if they could compete more. But again, a completely different market and completely different prices. Now you can't buy a 3dfx v5 for cheap, but the oxygen cards are cheap
Tenhle test krásně ukazuje, že každá karta má úplně jiné zaměření a v čem je dobrá. V každém případě obě jsou to krásné karty.
I remember my Intel Pentium2-450Mhz, 128Mb Ram, with a Creative nVIDIA Riva TNT 2 Ultra 32Mb would score 1600 in 3D Mark 2001 on Windows 98SE
@@UA-camTookMyNickname.WhyNot no it was just a bit later once the nVIDIA GeForce 256 came out & then the first graphics accelerator with GeForce DDR memory. This was the card to fight the VooDoo 5 & VooDoo 6 (that never made it to the public). The TNT 2 Ultra was fighting the VooDoo 3. Great time for hardware & most important for enthusiasts!
@@UA-camTookMyNickname.WhyNot 1024x1024 on TNT and 2048x2048 on TNT2. Matrox G400 already had 2048x2048 textures and environment mapped bump mapping
Unbelievable Voodoo 5 in a box i have two voodoo 2 but they are broken, they are showing artifacts but still i admire how awesome they are but Voodoo 5 and in a box crazy
Is there any way to repair those Voodoo 2?
I might be wrong but oxygen look much better in quake 3 next to the voodoo. The textures look crisp and sharp when on the voodoo they look blurry and washed also to much contrast on the voodoo (hides some of the problems). With this sad i still love the V5 5500 :D!
Yep this is true. Oxygen looks little bid different, I don‘t know if better but different :-)
kámo, opět TOP videjko :-)))) jen slintááááám :-)
Interesting how the Voodoo card needs external power, just like on a modern GPU.
Yeah because pci and agp couldn't deliver enough power. Their max was like 25w. So it's not a case of these cards used so much power, just too much for the slots. Even the 6000 just had a consumption of around 70w
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Awesome now GeForce 2 ultra vs voodoo 5500?
Geforce2 Ultra is faster.
GeForce 2 Ultra obliterates the Voodoo 5 5500. more than 80 fps at 1280x1024 in Quake 3
hell that voodoo 5 looks great
3dlabs oxygen has T&L capacity, not 3dfx ! Why this is not activated in 3dmark2001 ?
I had a Voodoo 5000. I miss that time!!! :')
Hello retro hardware. I will have a question for you. I want to find a 16gb ram supported motherboard with 775 socket xeon processor and overclock the processor, fill all the ram slots on the motherboard. I want to install gtx 1050ti on this computer. Do you think I would have done anything good? thanks for your answer.
Merhaba!
Not the guy who made the video, but I had a computer just like that. It is a very fun combination, but keep in mind that even a heavily overclocked 771 Xeon is somewhat underpowered for a 1050Ti. But yeah, go for a P35, X38, P45, X48 chipset, get low density (usually double sided) 4x4GB DDR3 RAM, and it should be a rather fun system to overclock.
If you're just going for a cheap gaming rig, a much better choice would be a socket 1156 or 1155 system.
Hello friend, did you need to configure an AGP voltage jumper for the voodoo 5 to work?
Voodoo 5 brings back memories as it was my first ever GPU. PCI variant. I wish I still had it as it served me well and then Nvidia began to take over and 3DFX was gone.
Would the GVX 210 perform better under Windows NT or Windows 2000 since it's a professional card?
64MB??? That's like... all that I have in terms of system memory on my Windows 98 machine!
The Glint Gamma 2 should allow you to enable Hardware Transform and Lighting in 3DMark 2000 and 2001, right?
Can I ask you a question? What is the best socket 370 motherboard to use? I have a Compaq 187498, when I try to turn it on, the fan goes for one second, then stops.
sehr schön gemacht hab selber eine 3dlabs gmx 2000 agb 16 mb + 80 mb von 1998 mit ein pci-agp adapter auf ein asus p5p800 bord mit p4 640 mit 3366 mhz als alltags rechner für internet !
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Could the Oxygen graphic card be bottleneck by the CPU and should it performed better if you have switched to an AMD Athlon 64 platform?
Do you know that nVIDIA at the timev said that SLI & multiple GPU's is bad design but then after years they implanted the technology them selves. They also said that it's bad that the graphic adapter needs extra power & now I need to connect my nVIDIA Cards to my PSU 😀
@@johnnychang4233 i thought the same, but if its bottlenecked, the v5 may be bottlenecked too. But more important to me would be a final chart and a conclusion at the end of the vid. So everyone can classify use cases for the oxygen. To be honest, i didnt know much about the card. Would love to see more such comparisons in the future :-)
@@Left-Handed-Cat Bottleneck in the sense that OpenGL 1.1 was software based by that time and the drivers wasn't that much developed.
Both cards are year 2000. With Oxygen you are limited by AGP Pro interface. Not so many setups with this AGP slot revision. Boards like Asus P4C800 s478 has AGP PRO but 8x.
great video can you tell me what is the key to activate the boot menu on a winfast k8s 755m motherboard ? because i would like to install ibm os / 2 warp 4 on it . MY build : winfast k8s 755m , amd athlon 64 3000+ , 2 gigs ram ddr , 320gb maxtor hard drive , nvidia geforce 5500fx and psu kolink 500w
3DFX VooDoo for games
3D Labs Oxygen for HIGHEND 3D GRAPHICS
This is a bad comparison.. Do VooDoo VS Oxygen in Softimage 3D 3.7 | Extreme.. You would not be able to do it, because VooDoo would not even run in this application. VooDoo is NOT A FULL SPECIFICATION OPENGL CARD. These cards have SPECIFIC purpose, one is for gaming, the other for highend 3D graphics software (Softimage, Alias, Wavefront etc..).
Hmm,but is this "Mafia" run was on DirectX,or was ir OpenGl/Glide????
DX
@@RETROHardware
Oh,guessed so....
Btw,do you,by chance,have any spare FX 5900 XT ??????
good lord its majestic
You should test the graphic cards with an EPoX EP-D3VA ! The dual socket motherboard can handel 2Gb memory.
this EPOX doesn‘t have AGP PRO slot and 512MB is good for WIN98
@@RETROHardware I think AGP Pro is specifically for professional workstation cards, am I wrong?
@@matchmakerchris7617 Yes, it is for power hungry cards, it delivers more watts.
Keep that TUV4X motherboard safely away from Janeway!
why not just do timedemo on quake 3
Colors seem more crisp in 3dfx. Oxygen a little faster.
@@UA-camTookMyNickname.WhyNot No, the texture limit of 256x256 was from Voodoo 1 to Voodoo 3, Voodoo 4 and 5 can handle up to 2048x2048 textures.
man i remember that 3D mark 99 racer demo. it was so cool! i always wished it was a real game. speaking of which, did you notice that the port / waterside area of the 2000 demo looks eerily similar to the area in the thief remake in the overworld city? i wonder if the thief level designers got inspired!
@Jeroen are you thinking of wipeout?
@@cheater00 Wipeout didn't really have the colour vibrancy of the 3Dmark99 demo and Wipeouts pace is frantic
is like comparison lawn mower with watering can. both do care about grass
woow great test great contect!!
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many times I'm comments your almost all videos! please tell me where and how you get like this staff?
I answered you two times for sure ... again ... lot of normal ways, pickups, auctions, exchanges and other deals
Good old times
Did''nt they had a video card codename WildCAT something? i remember it vaguely i live in the netherlands such stuff becomes more rare even simple voodoo 2s... i cannot find those anyways thanks for sharing awsome video of hardware i didnt knew they're were existing
Wildcat is more modern. I have some too.
Product of Mexico wow now that is interesting!
Randomly opened your video. Let me guess. You are Czech, right?
1996 i play with 3dfx and Quake
2020 i play with 2080ti and quake RTX???🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I had voodoo 3 2000 @183MHz and i had better or close results to this voodoo5. So or you have win xp or bad drivers, maybe need instal glide for voodoo.
you could make a PC with this motherboard: legend qdi advance 10f.
Hi my friend, i was searching for weeks for a liquid cooler or cpu waterblock for 478, where did u bought it and for how much, also good vid, i didnt know the existence of that grafics card
You're just gonna have to hope to find a used one, or take an existing CPU water block and modify it to fit, or somehow make your own, those are your only options.
@@madmax2069 thx btw i was searching in ebay for an used 1 and its really hard to find a 478 cpu block and harder to see it cheap
Please add a story at the beginning of the video as context... it would make the video much interesting!!!
Why, most dont come here for stories, we come here to see the comparison in retro hardware.
@@madmax2069 it would make the video complete and it work as an encyclopedia in the future, like LGR does
that is an ooooold halo ce picture on the voodoo box.
Mohol si aspon pouzit supervzácne Pentium III-S 1,5 ES co mas v trezore! :P
3dfx voodoo5 5500 making for gaming .The 3DLabs Oxygen GVX210 making for cad end 3d apps
Did a game existed and exploited every aspect possible & offered by
this generation of card. In glide or in direct3d. Which game use all
effects and top the pixel rate offered by this generation ? Which game can
saturate a voodoo 56000 only sized in 1024x768 ? Is a game has ever used all
the effect, the arts offered by this generation ? lol
Item for collectors. It can run Doom3 😁... Can it run Crysis 😁
I knew it wouldn't take long before someone asked that question.
@@euclideszoto997 its possible. Just little driver magic hehe
Mafia needs more CPU and GPU power.
Mafia is running on everything, you only have to lower details and resolution. I was playing it even on integrated GPUs.
@@Pidalin LS3D engine is bad optimized. Ok it can be launched without problems even with a Pentium 2 Slot1 with Riva TNT 2 M64... but performance? Even with Pentium 4 478 or Athlon Barton 462 there are stuttering problems. Old but high-end hardware are now cheap. So there is no reason to play it with lower end hardware.
@@Stermy57HW Have you tried another LS3D games like Vietcong? That engine has big problem with mod for unlimited draw distance, but without mods it's ok, but I can imagine in 2002 it needed really good HW, I was playing it on FX5200 and PIII 550 MHz which is crap and it was playiable without problem. But I was 12 years old, I really don't know how much FPS was there. I remember only that FarCry was unplayable.
astrals liquid sun would fit
Voodoo= GTX-RTX Radeon
Oxygen= Quadro Firepro
Mafia 1 runs shit even on my 8800 GTX SLI build haha.
если я правильно понял что voodoо5 для игр а длинная зелёная видеокарта для рендора.
Intel GMA 950 vs. Geforce 2 Ultra :v
привет классное железо
SPECviewperf 6.1.2
3dlabs is old turkish trade mark.
What? It is an american company.
3Dlabs made in Turkey
i swear if 3dfx were alive today they'd have fronted a Socketable Video solution. gpu on a socket.
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