how to cope with 0 viewers 🥴 || twitch tips for beginner streamers
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- hi everyone!! today i'll be chatting with you about mental strategies to deal with the small view count that is inevitable in the early stages of new streamers' journeys.
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0:00 - intro
0:15 - dont give up
1:30 - why you should stop streaming (momentarily)
3:40 - networking tehehehe :)
6:10 - ask friends + family to lurk
7:05 - stop obsessing over numbers
8:35 - don't sweat the water weight
9:30 - it's ok to suck
10:15 - do you think you're wasting your time?
10:45 - no matter your size, you always need to talk to yourself
12:44 - change how you visualize the view count
13:35 - the advantage of being a small streamer
14:46 - set small goals
15:55 - learn to manage the concern of fluctuating view count
16:40 - the pattern of view counts (personal anecdote)
18:35 - outro
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Good mental health practices definitely go a long way for streaming, and coping with low numbers/discoverability. It's ok to take breaks if streaming starts to feel frustrating or exhausting, and it's ok to end a stream early and try again another day if that day just isn't working out for one reason or another. Meditation at least a few times a week also really helped me with patience and delayed gratification.
I am still under 5 average viewers after 2 years and 3 months of streaming, and that's ok, because I genuinely enjoy my time doing it, and the company of the people generous enough to give me their time. I think my streams are pretty enjoyable to watch, but I still try to improve them over time with anything I can think of to add to them without taking away anything. My streams aren't for everyone, but no stream is.
Adopting better mental health practices kept me from quitting at multiple major breaking points where I felt a lot of self hatred and disappointment in myself for not achieving what I perceived as success at the time. I would love more chatters, or bigger numbers (like 15-20 big, but not bigger than that, because my primary reason for streaming is to talk with people and have conversations), but that number on its own wouldn't give me a sense of fulfillment. Those nights where I raid and I see 10+ people have stuck around to the end, even after I mention that I'm ending stream and that I'm about to raid, still feel really nice. I might be in the same spot in a year, or even 5 years, where my average view count doesn't grow, so I hope it's still just as enjoyable as a hobby to me then.
When I'm stubborn, neglect my mental health, and don't put my depression, anxiety, or aspects of autism like sensory overload or potential breakdowns/meltdowns from stress first, then it becomes much harder to stream, much harder to deliver enjoyable streams, sours the experience for me, makes it much harder to connect with people, and everyone who watches can easily read the atmosphere. I deleted the vod each time it happened. It felt awful every single time. And I don't want the people who care about me to have to see me that way when they're just trying to relax and vibe. I wish I learned that much sooner, but I'm glad I know now.
Main takeaway I'm trying to impart is that neglecting mental health by ignoring burnout and frustration, not only makes it much easier to quit much sooner, but it also makes being able to achieve goals a lot harder by making every single step more difficult. It can also push people away if it's too frequent by making them feel like nothing they do is good enough for someone, or by making them feel like it's their responsibility to constantly take care of a person and risk a bad outcome if they don't.
This would make an amazing youtube video in itself! Thank you so much for sharing, absolutely agree... mental health comes first 🧡👏
Turning off the viewcount is something I 100% co-sign on. It makes it one less thing to think about while on stream, and it makes it easier to get in the mindset of trying to entertain the viewers, even if they don't exist in certain given moments. If the mystery of "How many people are watching" isn't answered, then there is no reason not to go all-in and entertain to the best of your ability.
(I'm just speaking for myself right now, of course.)
SAME,once I get the view count turned off, I exist in the moment so much better... it removes a ton of stress
The ‘set yourself small goals’ is such good advice. I keep bringing myself down that I only have 25 followers on twitch but all of these advice videos are really helping out. You’re truly great and keep up what you’re doing ❤️
hey, just wanted to say thank you for all ur videos, theyve been very helpful as im thinking of streaming next month or so! keep up the great work :D
Thank you for watching and for the kind words! 🥺😊🧡
It's criminal your videos don't get more visibility on UA-cam. I just started streaming this summer and a lot of your other videos helped me get started! Thanks for putting the time in making more guides for us small-time plebs lol.
Appreciate you 🥺🧡❗
I’ve been having such a fun time streaming. At first i was so discouraged after my viewers went down. Now i just have a blast and am so happy when people come say hi. I hope I can get a strict schedule when i go back to school in the fall. 💜💜
Scheduling has always been such a tough thing for me 😩
lol that B-roll of entertaining a bunch of kids is sooo accurate xD
The analogy you made referencing viewer counts' is extremely vivid. It is also viable for any new streamer. Imagining views like weight goals is a brilliant way to remain spirited on your journey to become a full-time streamer.
Thank you so much for creating all of these videos! I love how real you are!
Hey! I just wanted to say thank you! I'm in the process of rebranding my brand to be more inclusive of what I want to do, and this has been so incredibly helpful! your videos are thorough, approachable, kind, and welcoming! Each day I come home from work and get so inspired to continue working on making my brand so that i can begin offering up all the ideas in my head, and your content is beyond helpful for that. :) So glad for these videos!
I love your content! Thanks for all the good advice.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thanks for this video, that was really helpful. Also OMG your cat is too adorable 😻😻😻
Glad I found your channel, I was just learning about Twitch for my niece who just started streaming however I've been toying with the idea of streaming myself. I've watched a few of your videos to get familiar and I feel like I now know what to expect. I'm brand spanking new to the platform, so very foreign to what I'm used to. Appreciate the value you provide!
Im just starting out on twitch and I must say your videos is just the guidance I needed to understand it all!!! Great content!!!
Thank you so much, glad I can help! 🥺🧡
Your videos are super helpful, thank you so much, for taking the time to do them! May the goddesses bless you with happiness and warmth ❤
Thank you so much 🥺🧡
Definitely needed this 💜 I’ve gotten really good at talking to myself
We're just getting started and were a bit in our head about watcher count, but realized that as long as you're having fun it's still time well spent!
Hihi thay miau was so perfect! Your cat is so cool. These videos apply to life in general, I watch them even though I'm not on Twitch. Thank you for being an inspiration and steering people in the right direction
Thank you so much 🥺💜
The way I cope with 0 views in my streams (1, because I open the stream on my phone) is by just having fun with the game, I know I gotta network, I have tried, its hard, still not there but there I keep trying.
Networking can quickly become its own full time job 😩
@@HeyShadyLady Oh, definitely, I wanna cry lol
@@HeyShadyLady can you do a video on how to network? What does that look like exactly? I would like some tips
Just wanted to pop in and thank you for all the resources/tutorials you’ve shared. I’m a beginner steamer and just started my channel. I feel so much more confident about starting and excited to see where it goes.
I'm so glad to hear that, you're welcome! 🥺💖🧡
Excellent Video as always, Ty!!! Thorough answers and terrific delivery as well! ✌😊❤
Awww, thank you; appreciate you Doug 🥺🧡
Thank you so much for these videos, they help a lot!
You're welcome! 😊💖
I have never thought about the “two hour lull” you mentioned but its such a real thing!! I typically need to take a little break near this time because my brain gets to me a little. 🥺 This reminder about audience fatigue will be helpful to keep in mind so thank you! Also appreciate you using my comment! The friends I made when I started streaming were so important for my mental health and I may have quit hadI not met them honestly. Great video. ❤️❤️
Honestly same! The friends I made early on were free crucial for me being able to stick through all the ups and downs
Thank you for your videos, honest advice, and encouragement !
I always hide all of my views, likes, and everything from myself lol.
I think the "look at the analytics after" is a good compromise though, so I can see what I did but also not obsess over it lol
Thank you so much for the video it help a lot for new streamers to have a stress free stream for them selfs
Hey ShadyLady
Thank you so much for the kind words, I’m glad I can help even in the small way of just encouraging and cheering from the sidelines 👏👏. Being a duo definitely helps since you always have each other to bounce off of, that’s one of the reasons why I love collab so much!
Im literally in tears rn bc i've been beating myself up for transitioning to twitch from fb gaming. It's been hard to get my pep back and it's definitely been showing in streams
You're basically starting over on a new platform, be gentle with yourself and take it easy :) little steps every day to reach mini goals that add up to your big goals!
@@HeyShadyLady This means the world coming from you love. I've literally been writing down notes and making jots here and there, on how to better myself, to better my content. Thank you for putting all the jumbled thoughts in my head, into goals that I can work towards achieving!
thank you so much !
Hey Everyone, I Hope yall Are Doing Good. I Just Wanted To Stop In & Stay Hey. Your All Awesome 😎
8:00 that literally happened to me the other day a fellow streamer raided me and for a few mins I had about 12 people in chat and I was welcoming and tried to be entertaining and within a few minutes the number dropped down to 4 and it literally made me almost cry FR
Love Toasty's little meow lol
so helpful ty!
Thank you for this! 💕 Really needed this bcos I’m about to start my first ever stream soon & I’m sure I’ll have 0 viewers 😂 I gotta put myself in this mindset.
Thanks for all the advice.
Thanks I'm in my late 30s and am super busy but been thinking about doing twitch streaming on the side for a few hours a week just for fun. Hope to apply what you've said here to my own streams
❤️❤️Enjoying what you do, yes, agree 💯
Excellent as always
Thank you Jupiter 🥺🥺🥺🧡
Yoo I’ve been watching all your vids cause I want to start streaming. Thanks for all the help!
You're welcome! Thank you so much for watching 😊🧡
I'm going to start my streaming career come Monday for World Of Warcraft. I know and understand this is going to be hard and there will be moments where I want to quit, but...like Zuljin said, it takes time. Which I'm going to focus on having fun even if no one is watching.
Networking is a HUGE thing here! Amazing video girlie! What kind of video editing software do you use?!
I edit with Adobe premiere!
Keep grinding never give up!
Turning the view count off helps me all the time. I'm more focused on seeing the chat being active. If it's not, that's fine, but it does help knowing that at least one person is there. Some of us have a hard time with a schedule, but looking at your numbers after stream might help what's a better time for people (regulars or not) usually come around. Hell, lately a certain game night is doing okay in my book even if I don't know who is there lurking.
I personally still need to work on videos for the hell of it (my friend keeps telling me to just post the dumb/crappy videos as much as possible), but i'm usually drained after work. Easier for me to just chill and play games that I've been wanting to play. Slowly trying to balance everything. Need to stop with the "why work on things when you can be playing video games?" mindset.
Awesome advice 😊
how do you pull yourself out of the downward spiral when you're live?
I have to move
viewer count off, I just write my stream "plan" out and if I feel lost on what to say I just look at it haha. Or keywords, helps me cope when I have a dead chat sometimes.
View count off, but if I start to get nervous for any reason, I take a BRB!
Makes a lot of sense because I prefer to watch small/medium steamers because of the interaction
yes, if you mute the stream itself it doesn't count as a view and you don't receive points too, so I always mute the tab, because I love collecting points from streamers I like even if I can't fully engage in their stream at the moment. redeeming those points can also give some exposure, especially if there some good options, like some streamers have "gift you a sub" or "became VIP" or some other really noticeable and more personal rewards.
Hi Shady Lady - I think you are the greatest. I just started streaming a few weeks ago. I've learned so much from you. I did subscribe to you on fanhouse. & I'll check out your Offbeats Community. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for the support 🥺👏❗
That toasty cameo at the end tho
Shes such a lush 😂😂
I started a little before one of my friends and they have really taken off. They have more availability since they don’t work and I do. It’s been really hard on me to see how well they’ve done as compared to how terribly I’m doing. I’m happy for them but also very jealous…I don’t like this feeling.
thanks for the tips! i'm also going to follow your vlog! i'm also on a weight loss jouurney!! do you have any thoughts or opinions on streaming on youtube vs twitch?
I'm actually gonna do my first youtube stream later this month, so maybe I'll make a video comparing the two!
@@HeyShadyLady awesome!! Definitely going to keep an eye on on that because of your experience steaming on twitch. 😎😎
IMO. the discoverability on UA-cam is head and shoulders above twitch. However, building on twitch is still extremely profitable and valuable if you are able to ride out the storm. (and if you are talented enough)
I’m a very analytical person. I do see the value of turning off the viewer count, but it’s so hard to commit to lol
I FEEL THIS 😂
I've been watching your videos for awhile now and just realized I never subbed. So, sorry -- I'm subbed now.
And as a guy who likes horror and true crime, I'll definitely be checking out the new channel too. Great stuff!
Aw thank you for subbing! Welcome in 🥺🧡
This has been nothing new to me. I turned off my view ages ago. Makes me feel much better.
I have been at this 9 years and I have been up and down with streaming/content creating.
I am the "we will never know" person.
having the view count off makes me feel so much less stressed, and lets me just chill in the moment!
also, 9 years in the game!! you probably have some tips yourself, that's def not what i would classify as a "beginner streamer" :D
@@HeyShadyLady I can share so much with people. I have lots to offer. I have been thru the very good periods and even the very dark ones.
@@HeyShadyLady I play video games I love rather than forcing myself to play games that I won't enjoy at all
@@thepaladinofthelight1991 dark ones, have you had like a lose friends and lose community, go years with no streaming Then coming back?
@@Struzzylive I have lost a lot on the way. Long story
How can I watch the chat while streaming? I've had very few comments that I've missed because I'm streaming a game
I enjoyed this. You made some great points. I recently had to start from scratch. I was part of a DJ duo where we live stream our DJ sets. We were growing and we also played at gigs. My former DJ partner decided to leave without a warning. He took our website down and cut off all communications with me. I rebrand myself as a solo act. My saving grace was I already had my logo and my own twitch channel. I already live stream and was part of a Raid train as mentioned before. Both have been a success. I have been coming to videos like yours to either add things to my channel or refresh my mindset. I decided to add things various music to play on my show and took things out. Note: I am not a full-blown content creator. This is a hobby and a labor of love. With that said, I still take it serious. It's my name and my brand. Asl a former blogger on House music, I built a reputation, to be honest, and having fun. When I got into this, my purpose is to let people know that I am a DJ and I love playing music and hope people will enjoy it. For me is that simple. Anything else is a plus. Each month, I broadcast 4 shows (3 on twitch). At times, I will get viewers, and sometimes none or 1. I try to keep the same energy. Why? Because I do this because I love DJing. Twitch allows me a platform to play the music I love and experiment with another Underground music genre.
I just started trying to stream and I have no idea what I’m doing? I am streaming from Xbox. I don’t have any chat working yet, still trying to figure how to get it to work. How long should i stream? Is it better to stream for 3 hours.
Thanks for the positive advice! (I'm Alikour on Twitch btw! Be sure to follow all content creators you enjoy!)
Wow I am honored you used my comment to be fair I forgot I commented that
LMAOOO I know I meant to make this video months ago, closer to when this thread actually happened (january) 😂😂
@@HeyShadyLady I was wondering why my phone started to blow up I'm like wtf is going on thank you for using my comment
i m coping just fine....thank u
I want to try streaming but I'm hesitant because I dont like the sound of my voice nor how to be entertaining.
I dont like thr sound of my voice either, and a lot of content creators don't like theirs
.. thats something I hear a lot 😂 but your voice isn't for YOU .. its for others to hear 😌👏
@@HeyShadyLady that's true! But how can I force that thought that thr viewers may hate the sound of my voice?
You'll never know until you put yourself out there! And if people are being mean to you, don't humor them, just ban them. Everyone has the ability to form a supportive community around them, you just gotta take the first step
@@HeyShadyLady thank you so much for the advice and taking your time out to comment. This made me feel better to try to take the next step and actually stream while keeping these thoughts in mind.
Im a new streamer and i think my bad habit is doing reeeeaallly long streams. Ive been playing horizon zero dawn for like 6,7,8 hour chunks but i cant help it cuz im loving this particular game but i think its becoming a problem because my playback numbers are very low because who the heck is gonna sit through multiple 6,7,8 hour streams? 😔 i do only stream once a week though and i dont cheat and play without the 4-5 viewers i do fortunately get. Sometimes i do get 0 views for chunks of time during my streams so this video is super helpful. anyone have any advice for my chunky stream problem?
Not me clicking on and off this video to watch adds to help you noooo that's not meee 💀💅
OMG ILY 😂😂🧡
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Are you open to having one on one conversations like a zoom meeting or giving feedback (watching my stream for a couple of minutes)? I’m really interested in what you have to say about my stream. I know my stream is a bit different and probably isn’t everyone’s cup of tea which is normal. I just really want a meeting with you. I am also open to emailing you to set up times.
Hi! ❤️
You have Dakota Johnsons’ smile and laugh. 🥰
aw i love this; she has such a vibrant smile
i feel like these tips are too general, i for one stream for myself, since gaming is both my job and my hobby, but most people already know that the easiest way to go anywhere is by either buying in the 'clout' or using any 'wow-factor' or 'bait' there is out there, just to take off, that's why most of those, also either make it or loose that 'clout' for the same reasons in the long run. but meh, i really like the way you do these videos ^^
I'll be honest... Twitch is MUCH harder to build an audience on..
UA-cam is much better. My channel took off on UA-cam with relative ease.(Granted I'm not a gamer livestream) but i watch all my livestream gamers on youtube
to heck w that half a pound of water weight tho fr
lmao why does it gotta torment us 😭😭
Streaming since 2016, and I think this flower may have been watered for too long. 😔 I feel like my content has been steadily gotten better, but...
What if u hate ur voice? Lol.
Yes i need help with how to narrate to myself better, I am a low talker and I’m self conscious about how loud i am and my voice, I don’t have a nice voice lol, I don’t have different tones of my voice.. I am way too shy for a camera..