My Top 3 River Trout Fly Fishing Rigs - BEST Dry & Nymph Tactics For Beginners
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- A great guide for beginners and more advanced river fly anglers alike, Andy breaks down his three favourite river fly fishing rigs and explains how to create these outfits yourself. There's plenty of technical information here, so if you don't know your furled leaders from your french leader, or your duo from your euro then watch this one closely and carefully!
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French Leader Rig:
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Absolutely love all your videos mate.. very clear instruction, keeping it very simple to follow. I have only been river fishing for about five years, and still have difficulty with fishing styles and equipment, but you have simplified it and explained it all beautifully, and for this I thank you very much. tight lines to both of you. Paul-C.
A wonderful presentation much appreciated. Thanks from down-under in NZ.
Great info andy thanks mate 👍
Some great advice and set-up tips. Cheers Andy LTD
Very good and helpful. Thank you
Thanks Andy so much information 👍👍
Nice one Andy, lots of useful info, thank you
Thanks Andre, hopefully there was something useful in there!
Interesting video Andy, nice to see how fellow fly fishers rig their kit 👍
Hi Andy, i am at the stage in my fly angling where not only have i taken many of the steps you talk about, but also everything you said made perfect sense to me as well through trial and error. Top Stuff Top Angler. #HardwonKnowledge
Good advice again.stay safe.
Thanks James, you too!
*I bought these and used them at the river where I get snags often they have done a **enjoyable.fishing** recommend great job of not breaking along with some strong line I purchased as well. They are super durable and easy to use.*
10/10 again andy.
Thanks James, much appreciated!
Great video Andy
Well done Andy. Very clear, priscise and willing to give out honest information. I have virtually the same size and weight rods,just a different brand so happy days. Iil try your ideas on my last outing here on the Tawe in Swansea before the little Brownies have a well earnt rest. Thanks again.
Great video and I cant wait to get on the water with you at some point Andy.
Sounds great Neal, hopefully we can all get out soon!
Super informative video as always :-) Couple of questions if i may? On the duo setup (which i have struggled with in the past, so hopefully copying yours may help) what size Fulling mill indicator klinkhammer would you suggest ? and what knot do you use to attach the 12ft tapered leader to the end of the Brook fly line?
Thanks
Great explanations as always. Your clients are lucky to have you guiding them , I can tell you are a good teacher. I was advised last year as a noobie to overload my 3w rod to aid my casting. Just wish I could practice now lol. PS have enjoyed the streams. ATB
Thanks Kenton, that's really kind! Hopefully we'll all be allowed out soon!
Great video again Andy, very informative and well explained. I'll be contacting you for a guided day once the lockdown is over.
Thanks Chris, much appreciated!
I still have some of the old timers telling me I'm crazy using a a 10ft 2wt nymph rod and a 10ft. 4wt. for dry, but you are actually right about the great drift with the longer rods.
Ohh I'm going to enjoy watching this. Love the grayling cushion I have the same one! Hope the both of you are doing well.
Hope you enjoy it, and tight lines for the 4th!
Thanks for the tips. Interesting stuff. I've gone to a 9ft 4wt for dry fly fishing. I've tried to use my 10ft 3wt nymph rod, but find a lot of the places I fish have too much bankside vegetation for it to be practical. The 9ft is a good compromise. A shorter head line enables you to use a longer rod for close work/small rivers without over-lining. I built a 7ft 3wt on a fiberglass blank that I use for tiny streams. I do like a slightly heavy reel to balance a rod. They're much cheaper than the super light ones and sturdier, so if you drop them, it isn't so expensive... Let's hope we can get out there soon. Tight lines.
Yeah I guess if your spot is really over grown then the 10' will just be too much, sounds like the spot for your glass rod!
You're not kidding, I'm starting to forget what a fish looks like!
I like furled leaders, but always found them bit "splashy" on pick up... with potential spook fish. Clear and informative video, btw. 👍
Very interesting Andy. Some things we do the same and some quite different. I fish Pine Creek over here in Pennsylvania, and it is quite a big piece of water. I usually use a 9' fast action 5wt for dry fly as often the river is too deep to wade everywhere and sometimes you have to get the fly out there some distance. For what you call a Duo (we generally refer to as a Hopper Dropper rig) I like to use a 10' 3wt medium/fast nymph rod. I use a 4/5 size reel (for balance) and 4wt fly line which casts really nicely. This set up is also a blast for pond fishing catching Perch and Pan fish which has gotten my kids interested in fly fishing (squirmy wormy on the bottom and Chernobyl Ant on top is a killer combo). For Euro nymphing I use an 11" 3wt medium action 5 piece rod. I have and old 5wt reel on that rod with a bunch of Maxima Chameleon so the old fly line never comes off the reel. Again I am using the over size reel to balance out the 11" rod. I will also take this rod when I fish the small and tight side streams where there is no room to cast. Sorry for the late comments but somehow I missed this video. I'm looking forward to the next one!
New subscriber and I'm really enjoying watching the videos 😊
I'm learning loads and beginning to realise why I'm not catching as many fish as I should!!!! 😜
Really glad you're enjoying the videos!!
Hi Andy, I tried your dry fly setup yesterday and really struggled with turning over the leader. I used an old Scientific Angler line that I think is not really a WF line. I’m guessing that’s my issue.
Loving your work, as an all round angler that’s not done masses of small river trout fishing you are great at very clear explanations. Keep up the good work.
Another very informative video. I especially like the duo setup, I can see the possibilities of using this on my club's brown trout river. I also recently watched your French leader vids, which I'm particularly going to try for Coarse fish and Trout on my local River Ribble (lower reaches have allsorts, from Chub, Barbel to See and Brown trout, but hard fishing). Could be a good method in the fast water.Thanks Andy.
great video, i hardly know anyone using scierra rods so this was great, i currently use a scierra surge for lochs which i love, have you ever used the 10.6ft 3w for euro nymphing ? i currently use a shakespeare agility 2 10ft 3w for nymphing.
Andy great videos as usual. I have the Scierra Brook #2 10ft based on your recommendations. I've enjoyed using it for nymphing and had good success on the same beats as you (Dove). I'd like to use it for dry fly. Would you recommend over-lining this particular rod for that purpose? I also use a 6ft#3 with #4 line and that works well.
Great videos Andy, I'm looking at getting into fly fishing but not sure where to start with the rods. What do you recommend? Will probably be on still waters mainly. Do you know if the Grey's GRC combo are any good? Thanks
Great video! Just a quick question, would you go for the same furled leader and tippet set up if you only had an 8ft 4wt rod?
Very interesting the equipment you choose Andy.
Never tried french nymphing but thinking of trying it after watching you in action on the Wye and Dove.
Would a 10ft 3 weight be a good choice and give the flexibility of a 10ft rod for dries..
Keep up the good work.
I think wedenday yeah definitely wedenday good video very enjoyable
Cheers Stephen! Quite a lot of info in there but hopefully it makes sense!
Really enjoy your videos and live-streaming. Very good video and great information. Just wounding if you have done any videos on streamer fly fishing?
Great vid Andy really enjoyed watching it and learned a lot from it. I only wish I could get hold of a Scierra Traxion 1 LW Fly Reel 3/4 wt, they are just not available at the moment due to some guide saying how good they are ;-)
Hi Andy. Keep the lockdown vids coming. They are a great tonic ! I was looking at buying a new rod for Euro nymphing, and was fascinated to see you using a 10ft for the dry fly fishing too. Could I double up and use the 10ft 4wt for both or is there a real advantage to the 2wt on the Euro rig? Thanks.
Great question Nick, I think the answer is yes you. Presenting the frenchie at distance would be harder work and you'd probably bump off a few fish, but if I could only carry one of them it'd be the 10' 4# I think.
Phenomenal video! I really appreciate the way you describe techniques and explaining your thinking. Feels like I get a good chunk of knowledge. Really excited for the spider chat too. Is there an easy way to know when y'all are going to do the live videos? I've stumbled across one in progress when I was already on youtube but would like to catch more in progress.
Hey Chef!! We usually do it at 8pm on a Saturday, but best way to see the updates would be on Facebook or Instagram. Either Andy Buckley or ieva Breiteryte
If you can only afford one 10ft rod at the moment , would a 4wt dry fly rod be ok as a french leader rod or would I be better with the 2wt french leader rod that I would overline to a 3wt and use for dry fly as well ??? Thanks
Andy would you use a slightly lighter outfit for dries say a 10ft 2 weight with a 3 weight line & furled leader combination? I use the same line but shorter furled leader on a 7.6ft glass rod but as you say the drift is much shorter with a shorter rod
In your other videos you have a floating net that is attached to your back some how, I am a older feller and need a net I can easily get to without a lot of twisting and bending, can you tell me more about the one you have?
I've no idea what you were on about but I enjoyed it :D
I must have a go at wafting stuff at these tiddlers one day;)
That makes two of us Nick!
Be careful, you might never go back 👀👀
After watching your euro nymphing videos I morphed into an older version of you . I got the scierra 2 wt rod and the caged reel the line and got a set of your recommended scirera waders but as yet haven’t had a chance to use them lol . Although I think my waders fit me better than yours and leva would find me too attractive to resist . How do I order some flies ? Cheers Dave
Hi Andy, great video and very useful. I have tried to get the brook II short belly fly line but it is not available any more, is there a alternative fly line I could use for duo fly fishing. ?? What would be the best.
Andy,
After watching I bought an 8' and 12' Hemingway leaders. But they seem to twist up badly. I've got thread furlies and have no problems. Any tips?
Completely agree with you re rod speeds, there is a place for fast action rods but I sometimes think the big manufacturers are in an arms race to produce faster n faster rods with super "tippy" actions just because they now can and not because they're better to fish with. Possibly not as big a problem as it was a few years ago but still an issue.
I 100% agree, at one point Sage had the TCR/TCX, Loomis had the crosscurrent, Scott had the S4 and Hardy had the Angel TE, all little or no use to your average fly angler because they were just too fast!
Also agree that things seem to have changed, and I think it's for the better 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing It was actually the TCR which sprung to my mind as the perfect example, it was an exercise in engineering and not a river rod, I've used a SP490 for 20yrs now for rivers, I still wobble the rods in the tackle shops but I've not found anything that makes me keen to want to trade up.
I used a 9' 5# TCR for 3 years, 36 months wasted! I guess it did sharpen my casting up a bit but I lost a lot of fish with it.
Those SPs are sweet sticks, no need to buy anything else after that is there?
It’s an issue with manufacturers. They employ champion casters to develop casting tools rather than Mr Average Angler to develop a fishing rod. I am back to glass for the rivers and Guideline Farios for streamers and still water. The fast casting tools are in the shed.
Would you use a yarn indicator much? Alot of people feel they frighten spooky fish
Great info as usual Andy....thanks man.....please let me know where I can get some of the klinks with the tippet ring on.....😁
Let me know how many you need and they'll be ready for our next session!
@@IBandAndyFishing ..... 3 different sizes and 4 of each ???
I'll crack on!
Any other place to get a furled leader? Your link has sold out unfortunately. Thank you
Interesting in using the over sized line to get good turnover on long leaders 🤔might be where i’ve been going wrong
Could i ask do you find your self adding weight to leaders when say nymphing or wet flys ? I seem to get alot of bunching when casting so my leader lands in the water bunched up is this just bad casting? I use a 9ft leader 4wt rod and real setup size 16 - 18 flys
Trout @25:50 looks like a fresh run Steelhead 👍
Great video as usual, cheers! I bought one of the 10ft 2wt brooks rods after watching your videos on euro nymphing and love it. I get the feeling this video is going to cost me another couple of rods! Now the million dollar question! If you were only allowed one of the three, which one would it be? I suppose you can choose something else but you are only allowed one rod!
Thanks Matt, really appreciate it! I think if I could only have one it would be the 10' 4#, as it could just as easily be used with the duo, and though it would be a heavy frenchie rod it would be just fine. Plus I think I place a higher value on the dry fly rig, I want that one to be zeroed in perfectly for those 'one shot' fish!
What do you think about Tenkara rods?
I've tried it a couple of times and never got on with it. Designed for catching tiny little trout in Japanese mountains and great at that, we're fortunate to have much bigger fish around here, I got broken off too often
@@IBandAndyFishing believe it or not they sell rods that can handle big stripers and even Salmon and Steelhead! You just use a bigger weighted rod and add 30-40 feet of regular fly line. I sat through a 4 hour PowerPoint on them through Zen Tenkara and ended up buying 2 one smaller and one about a 7 / 8 weight i used the smaller one only a couple of times and put it away and went back to my spey and conventional rods. I quess some people especially back packers like them for their size. Also do you do any spey fishing?
Can you download fishbrain it's like instagram for fishing you upload your catch, and you get to see other peoples catches from all around the world and to get to go on a map and see what fish have been caught there and all that lovely stuff
Andy, hi. Quick question why do you use fluorocarbon on a dry fly rig when coupled with furling leader?
I really like the properties of fluorocarbon- low diameter, low-ish stretch, high abrasion resistance. It's personal thing, but I much prefer fluoro
@@IBandAndyFishing does it not naturally sink , hence pulling the dry under?
Nope, this is a big misconception. Scientifically, Fluorocarbon is more dense than water, but this doesn't take in to account surface tension. Next time you're out on the water, cut off a foot of 5x, 6x, or 7x Fluorocarbon and throw it on the water - it won't sink. And because it doesn't absorb water (monofilament does), it'll continue to not sink 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing thanks Andy, I’ll try that! My euronyphing has come on leaps and bounds after our lesson! Pays dividends with the grayling - Jan
would there be any good rod thats not overly expensive the river i fish is small with usually small trout but salmon also run through so i need something decent incase of one
What's your price range Darragh?
@@IBandAndyFishing £100 max really can go little over
Can you say which river so I have an idea about rod size and weight?
@@IBandAndyFishing would it be better if i emailed you pictures and talk there
Feel free bud, andy@abangling.co.uk
OK, so here's a question I'd love to see answered! As a newcomer to fly-fishing, is it more important to invest in a broad range of different flies, or a narrow range of flies in different sizes and weights? (Specifically thinking nymphs, after seeing your recent French leader into videos). As an addendum to this question, how important is quality of fly, (cheapo Chinese/Amazon flies vs. Fulling Mill). How many flies makes a good starter box?
There you go. UA-cam Video fodder for you!
Patrick, definitely a narrow range of flies in different sizes.....you don't need to purchase a multitude of thousands of different nymphs for river fly fishing...a box of nymphs including say the Sawyers pheasant tail, gold ribbed hares ear, black, olive and natural hares fur nymphs, in bead/weighted nymphs and unweighted nymphs in different hook sizes from #12-16 would see you for most trips, these represent anything and everything in the river, from shrimps to small tadpoles, to hatching nymps and so on. My advice would be don't go for what you the fisherman like and think the fish will absolutely love your choice and taste!..find a few pictures on the internet of real underwater nymph species and see what they look like then match your imitations as closely as possible to those real pictures. You don't have to be absolutely exact, just a close representation will do. For me movement of any fly is the most paramount important thing...lets face it a living insect moves, whether it is on the surface or underwater, it will have movement e.g, legs, wings or body movement so any imitation has to be able to suggest that movement, so for example say a tied nymph which has a few fibres sticking out from the thorax/wing case might suggest legs, whereas say a hackle of soft cul du canard waving around the thorax/wing case in the water flow might suggest wings opening or a shuck etc.
Pah! Trying to convince us you know what you're talking about, when you have a size 2 mouse fly caught in your collar all the way through the video.
Dammit! Guilty as charged, all you need is the mouse fly, all the other stuff is just a con! 🙈😂
Don't be stupid, anyone can see it's a hedgehog fly!