100% Historically Accurate Napoleon in Warhammer 3.
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2023
- In this Gelt Campaign. We shall attempt to do things Napoleon style using only guns, cavalry and artillery, with some napoleonic style tactics and strategies. What could go wrong!
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One of the reasons that Napoleon was able to climb the ranks so fast was his early mastery of the Searing Doom spell
He did lose to the British because they had access to more powerful spells (those damned tea drinkers)
British empire has Bright Magic!! That’s why they were so challenging!! 😂
@@averagelyabnormal904 No, they had tea magic.
@@geneandreyev458They also had the Spiffing Brit who is the master of exploits
@@catodes1295 Kinda makes sense, he exploited time into into becoming a major part of the Napoleonic wars
Not bad; the only big Napoleonic thing I can think of that you missed was going into the Chaos Wastes and losing all of your troops to attrition.
Best comment 🤣
He needed to attack Kislev/Russia
if you want 100% accuracy for that , you attack kislev, they use the attration thing with their factions mechanic while you'r moving towards kislev and the turn before you beging the siege, they destroy the city and run to the chaos wastes while you get attrition from anything , could be Vampire or Rats
CHAOS DWARF DON'T KNOW
CHAOS DWARF DON'T CARE.
HASHUT! HASHUT! HASHUT!!!!
or going to desert and losing badly
Fun Fact!
in Total War: Napoleon, the Voice actor of Napoleon is Stephane Cornicard, who is also Louen Leoncoeur in Total War: Warhammer.
Fun fact: He is also the voice of one of the French generals in Medieval 2: Total War and Charlemagne in Total War: Atilla
I knew I picked the right Lord to command my blessed trebuchet "doomstack"
Damn, Stephane really on a streak of voicing Fr*nch and Fr*nch inspired characters, heh?
@@mekingtiger9095i mean, he he's french so i guess it's normal for him.
@@mekingtiger9095A Frenchmen voicing Frenchmen and fantasy not Frenchmen, what is the world coming to.
My enemies are many. My equals are none.
In the shade of Olive trees, they said Tilea could never be conquered.
In the land of pharaohs and tomb-kings. They said Nehekhara could never be humbled.
In the land of forest and snow, they said Kislev could never be tamed.
Now? They say nothing. They fear me, like a force of nature, a dealer in sorcery and death.
I say, I am Balthasar Gelt! I am Sorceror!
I am the Supreme Patriarch!
You missed out on simply ending on "I am supreme." But I respect that.
Napoleon DID have horse Grenadiers! The Grenadiers a Cheval de la Garde Imperiale. Neither them nor the foot Grenadiers used actual grenades, though.
they didnt very much but the origins of those troop types did, thus the names.
also, the outriders would very much be dragoons : riflemen on horseback who dismounted to fight, and remounted to move around the battlefield ;7
@@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
oh i used them in empire total war! cool unit but i didnt like them very much.
@@pierre-mariecaulliez6285 By Napoelons time Dragoons fought mostly on horseback. They were just Heavy/medium infantry.
Nice video! Next time use Oppenheimer tactics with Ikit Claw
“Gelt, just like Napoleon, starts with the Searing Doom spell” This joke was enough to knock me out of my seat lol
Looks like someone enjoyed the new Napoleon movie trailer lol
Epic History TV is one of the best to the Napoleon saga
I know I did. Firing up Empire total war darthmod lol.
who dey?
It's a pretty solid trailer, convincing enough that I'm going to see it in theaters.
Historical Ridley Scott with Joaquin Phoenix. What can go wrong?
Won’t lie we literally all love these kinda videos where you give yourselves cool challenges and or themes like the Mongolian one. One province. This one. Keep doing them
Napoléon's artillery was highly mobile at the time and was horse drawn. Light 4 and 8 pounders could be moved quite easily with the infantry for support. The bigger guns, which have a longer range, were more often "in the back", which doesn't mean super far back either. Battles would mostly start with an artillery exchange, and you would try to "soften up" enemy troops or positions while they were advancing.
Also, most cavalry men had two pistols and a musket. So they could fight on foot (like dragoons) or fire from horseback. Although cold steel was mostly used in cavalry charges to be sure.
This is cool, but Napoleon had bayonets, that your troops lack. Historically, until someone figured out that you can put a spear head in a musket and turn it into a spear if needed, most armies had 1/3 of the infantry composed of spearmen. So the gunmen would retreat behind the spearmen when meleé ensued. Also pistol cavalry was very napoleonic.
Thats what I always go for when I play Gelt: Gunpowder only!
Except for a Warrior Priest/Life Wizard as "Medic" for example, or Fire Wizard as "Flame Thrower" =D
That square formation looked amazing and ambitious and it totally paid off.. it was bloody epic !
What would have been really Napoleonic is having 3-4 half stacks moving together surrounding and dividing enemy armies
square formations like that were actually used in Napoleonic wars
mainly against cavalry charges
so that no matter where the enemy is charging from, they gonna meet a wall of bayonets
Yep Infantry formations were rock paper scissors: Line formations protected against gun fire and artillery, but left them vulnerable to cavalry. Whilst squares protected against cavalry but left them vulnerable to gunfire and artillery
@@dragon12234 Don't forget the classic French column attack which would usually overwhelm the enemy by sheer intimidation power alone.
You did take the "They can't stop me, I can lose 30 thousand men a day" to heart.
Gelt, a "wizard" whose magic consists of inventing smokeless powder, percussion cap and electrolysis. Because you can't drop "al" from alchemist until it's 1700's :D
the going straight for the enemeies major settlements and bypassing their armies is very napoleon.
Hate to be that history buff, but Napoleon did not know searing doom. He was actually a bright wizard and only lost to Russia due to a tactical miscasting of burninghead.
Tip for people doing this or heavy missile army comps: Infantry rotates WAY faster when in box formation rather than line formation. Also you dont need to worry about LoS for models within the same unit, they ignore themselves when checking for LoS.
we NEED more challenges like this!
This and Genghis Karl are two of the best Empire videos I have seen. It would be great if you expanded these into full campaigns. Great work.
Thats the thing thats really good when it comes to TW games, you can make the army that you like and still be victorious and TWWH offers the greatest range of units.
Nobody told Napoleon at Waterloo that the British were actually immune to final transmutation on account of them already being iron hard bastards.
That classic Napoleon tactic of sticking his commanders out front on their lonesome 😂
Lead by example after all
fun fact, i was a weird kind of kid. in 4th grade at age 10, everyone in my class had to make a presentation about a famous person of their choice. while my classmates came up with hannah montana,, elvis presley and a bunch of other celebrities, my weird nerdy ass was stood there telling a bunch of 10 year olds about napoleon, his rise to power and his military campaigns
Had a simlar thing, but in 8th grade. Tried to do a presentation on Hannibal. After about 30 minutes the teacher stopped me.
I mean definitely easier to make an interesting presentation about some war figure, rather than a singer etc.
Of course not everyone is interested in that stuff
I feel like you could make pretty good Napoleonic army as Kislev. Streltsi make a good frontline and Wnged Lancers are almost a perfect fit for Napoleon's Polish Lancers. Unfortunately the only way to get cannon batteries is to ally Empire or Dwarves and Kislev doesn't have Napoleon Geltaparte, but what can you do.
masterclass concept. Came from the Rome's one and you're nailing this "historical in TW3" idea. Had so much fun watching it. Thanks for the content.
Top tier! I love fun challenges like these :) So many cool unique formations and tactics to try
Great creativity, loved the formation and terrain use!
Keep this style of content coming! These are great to watch
Vlad: "YOU KILLED MY WIFE!!"
Bathapoleon Geltnaparte: "Look man, she just flew right into my gunline, what did you expect me to do, NOT shoot at her?"
I usually play this way allthough I use the bayonetts and reload animations mod for guns so it becomes a bit more interesting
I'm really enjoying this series, it's given me some ideas for campagins to try, thanks!
This popped up in my recommended. Definitely enjoyed it! Keep it up man!
Great video. I love the idea of themed armies in TWW3. Love Napoleon Galtaparte! Now I am going to check out Karl Franz with Mongol tactics.
I love your creative campaign ideas!
Totally aware you do this mostly for fun, so no serious intention to nitpic history facts here, expecially since you showed a good share of knowledge about the Napoleonic era in your comments. But I cannot resist making some comments ;-)
So use of high ground always was a good thing, even in this period. Shown several times by Obi-Wan Wellington, like at Waterloo or back in Spain, like at the ridge of Bussaco. Also the Austrians defendet well at Wagram, using the Russbach heights. Finally, key element of the victory at Austerlitz was the capture of the Pratzen height by French troops. So high ground was important back then, I say.
On the other hand, you nicely managed a 'manouvre sûr les derrières', a march behind enemy lines to cut supply and communications with your strike against the vamps capital. Reminds me of the manouver at Ulm 1805 when Boney encircled an army of a "large AI Empire" (the Austrians) and made them surrender :-)
Also, your box formation reminded me massively on marshal MacDonalds 'giant infantry square' of corps strengh at the Battle of Wagram ;-) - probabyl the biggest square ever formed in the Napoleonic wars.
And since you asked: Use of cavalry in the napoleonic age had many varieties. Light cav would be indeed in front of the army, screening their advance, scouting, skirmishing. The heavies (like your empire knights) would indeed be in reserve, waiting for an opportunity to punch big holes in the softened up enemy formations. So indeed in your vampire battle around min. 5 you did quite accurate! Of course there were exceptions from the rules, just one example being Espagnes Cuirassier division literally holding a 2 mile frontline at Aspern-Essling just by repeatedly charging the advancing Austrians (and bleeding out while doing so).
By any means, it is a highly entertaining video! Thanks for the awesome content!
These themed challenges and play throughs have been very refreshing and enjoyable to watch.
It's kind of surprising when reading about most Napoleonic battles as they tended to end with the infantry charging into the enemy lines.
And the calvalry at the time did use firearms, including flintlock pistols.
Actual bajonet charges were rarely carried through as one or the other side usually lost the nerve and at the last second
Bayonet charges were common but actual contact was rare. Most of the time the attacking force was either cut to pieces or the defending force lost their nerve and ran.
@@Reaper08 These battles from early modern period and earlier are always so interesting. How most deaths actually didn't come from the fighting, but from the routed troops being run down.
"Napoleon style tactics" is giving the same vibes as when they have to write "juice style drink" on things that, for legal reasons, cannot be called juice. Great vid as always :)
3:58 Besides not being at war with them yet, even this is accurate to the playthrough because that's pretty much how napoleon defeated austria the first time around. their army was distracted so he kinda just went around them and kicked in the door to vienna
Another awesome video. Loving your content at the moment! Keep it coming.
Nice. Now Oppenheimer tactics with Skaven?
Over the hills, and far away ...
Through Gobbos, vampiers, and pain ...
King Zerk commands, and we obey ...
Over the hills and far away!
I've been enjoying the HELL out of these themed campaigns!
Baltholean Geltapart made me laugh far more than it should have, great video
Love the sound of imperial handgunners letting loose a volley. one of the most satisfying sounds in tww, next to a chorf train going choo-choo
Great video love the campaign videos.
Balthasar Gelt's golden hat, when subjected to a rigorous mathematical analysis involving the square root of his total spell-casting energy and the gravitational pull of the Warp, surprisingly yields a figure precisely equal to Napoleon's hat circumference during the Battle of Austerlitz. The mystical number 42, often associated with the secrets of the universe, emerges as a crucial factor. By dividing the sum of Napoleon's horse shoe sizes by 42, we inexplicably arrive at the exact number of feathers on Balthasar's hat. Coincidence? Doubtful. By dividing the average height of a French baguette by the number of days Napoleon spent in exile on Elba and then multiplying by the speed of light, we surprisingly get a figure remarkably close to Balthasar's preferred temperature for spellcasting. So, it's very clear, they are the dual convergence of weird hats in one personification.
Loving these random little mini campaigns
Your first battle is just the battle of waterloo the guns of that time weren't that inaccurate with some armies even deploying rifles to sniper units. If i'm remembering right the average shot radius for a musket was four inches at 40 yards.
Infantry often only had a few chances to have practice shots, and even that was not generally on a proper range. The guns lacked sights so you had to use your intuition to fire. Add to that the adrenaline of battle, exhaustion from long approach marches and the blinding smoke which stopped you from seeing more than a few feet, plus hangfires and you can see why friendly fire was very easy.
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They Had sights though.
@@vinz4066 The Brown bess didn't- I mean you can use the bayonet lug to give yourself some idea but you had no rear sight.
I can tell you for a fact layering troops and shooting past/over each other was a common napoleonic era tactic
This is how I play Empire every time.
The Guns of the Empire mod really helps.
Clicked for the gameplay, stayed for the Napoleonic military lessons. Have a big fat like, my dude!
BROOOOOOOO!!! Now I want to see more!!!
I love Vamp Coast ,going full Gunline with about 5 carronades . unless you get bad terrain ,only rare few armies can get to you .
"Zerkovich, if you wanted to play as Napoleon, why don't you play Empire: Total War?"
Zerkovich: "Napologelt go brrrrrrrrrr"
I absolutely love gun only campaigns in Warhammer. Empire, dwarfs, and Cathay are all a… blast with this limitation.
you forgot skaven
@@silvanmoses9122 I haven’t played a single turn of a skaven campaign in my life
Please make more of these. Love it. 😂
polish Free state wing huzzar used shotgun axes and were some of nep most trusted unites
so gun cave checks out his horses though would uses many pistols to fire faster
This was fantastic!
I just watched the new Napoleon film and by learning from your videos I quickly realized that Napoleon lost at Waterloo because he didn't do what you would do. His cav to run past the silly infantry who are stacked up in tight formations and masacre Wellington and the artillery crew. To use his artlillery to blast into pieces the enemy cav and the silly infantry stacked up in those tight formations. To finish the runners with the infantry and the cav. Then take the British cannons too, and when the Prussians arrive to just mop them up. Thank you strategos :)
Pretty good! Although you forgot to try to invade Khemri and parts of the Badlands only to scarper back home in a small fast ship, leaving your army to die in the sand while blockaded by the mighty Albion navy. Khemri was as you obviously know a puppet under the once mighty Greenskin Empire, and although Albion didn't reaaaaally like the Greenskins, they absolutely hated Napoleon. So they helped the "Sick man of The Old World" chase Napoleon out of Khemri.
This reminded me of a mod made by Snek, "Guns of the empire", basically adding new gunpowder units and artillery. I like it, The units are not OP and not too shit. There's also some gun units that work like musket on Napoleon: Total War, it can be pretty decent in melee but still would be outmatched by high tier melee infantry.
10:46 This is the part at which the tides turn for Balteon Bonagelte, because now he has the legendary invincible Lord named Gottfried *van Vonvolkvanvolkvanvolkvolkvonvonvanvonvolkvan* on his side.
Now one can beat this legendary dude of a man of the Vanvonvolks clan.
Glad to see good old van Vonvolkvan is leading the troops.
Chasseurs a cheval were a thing as well they were essentially light infantry on horseback
Love this vid !!
This was back in WH2 and I haven't tried the same in WH3 yet, but in my Wulfhart campaign Free Company Militia were amazing value, even though 99% of the time they were fighting Lizardmen. Used them both as frontline infantry and later a few as flanking units to go around the lines and pepper their infantry with pistol shots from the back while they were stuck in melee.
I've always liked to use Free Companies as flanking infantry. There's something about their stats and even visual design with them handling a blade on other hand and a pistol on the other that screams "aggressiveness". And so aggressive I became with them. I think it's their hybrid stats and above avevare mobility as infantry that got my attention. I first started playing empire precisely because I saw those guys for the first time when I first started the game. Now I've got to test them with Volkmar....
As a side question, don't units get a penalty in their armor from being attacked from behind? I remember reading or seeing that somewhere, but J can't find it anymore. Now only the MD penalty is being found.
@@mekingtiger9095No armor penalty from direction. Armor does decrease from extreme fatigue tho.
@@mekingtiger9095 shield is the one that's directional
I really enjoyed this
16:55 In Germany if you do some sins in traffic while driving a car, you receive a nice fee and get some points - They are collected in Flensburg, didn't know it's in the Warhammer Universe as well. I hope my points are got destroyed while the siege.
Most of the Empire is based on the Holy Roman Empire of the 15th century I think, so many of the places have familiar names. Marienburg is a real world place, while Warhammer's Praag is obviously Prague.
@@rubz1390like Prague was invaded and destroyed that much..
@@czukarpathian6621 well not in that sense but the name is obviously the Warhammerified version of Prague. I'm surprised that I have to explain this.
"sins in traffic" I love the way you put that XD
Funnily enough, i currently have a break from tww3 since one of my friends is on holiday so we can't continue our campaign, and instead i've been playing the hell out of tw napoleon, so this video is just what i didn't know i wanted, but needed.
And yes, terrain is waaaaay more important for napoleonic warfare than the average tww battle(which in part is why i actually have started preferring napoleon over warhammer)
And btw, there actually IS a better line infantry unit in tww3:
"the black spot", the zombie pirate gunnery mob with handguns(i believe that was how they were called) RoR.
They are a musket infantry unit with high entity count, but also have bayonets, giving them charge defence and bonus vs large, and are one of my favorite RoRs.
Although i'd loooove to see a skeleton line infantry, simply because skeleton units are always perfectly synchronized and in formation, which would look absolutely awesome i'd believe.
Maybe in a vampirate dlc introducing "bone-apart" as the new LL...
yes, more please! Give us pike & shot tactics next! ;)
The socket bayonet is the missing ingredient. Itl it let handgunners double as spearmen, which is why they replaced all other infantry weapons in the 17th and 18th centuries
8:12 😂 funniest joke I’ve heard in a while
The box works well for dwarves, make it more anvill shaped and use slayers or ally recruited cav as the hammer.
Faith, steel and GUNPOWDER!
Wellington did the three ranks thing at Waterloo
I hope this becomes a new series , this was fantastic
16:06 there is a handgunner unit that fires here thats oh so satisfying. highlight of the video.
But seriously, these videos are very enjoyable, the same as the Genghis Karl video.
my guess would be that the empire gunpowder infantry use rifled weaponry, which didn't become common place until well after the Napoleonic wars, hence why they're so accurate and have a much bigger range than the gunpowder cavalry, who don't care about range as much as they care about ease of reloading so they would be using smoothbore guns, hence the smaller range
Something very Napeleonic is to strike deep into enemy territory when and where your enemies least expect it and move very fast from one source of resistance to the next, which he used very effectively especially in his campaigns in Italy against the Austrians and Germany (against the 4th Coalition, I think?) So, your blitz into Sylvania was actually text-book Napoleon
Love this and Genghis Karl so much!! Can you do a crusader king or leader for Volkimar the Grim? Like Baldwin of Eddessa, Geoffrey of Buillon, or Louis VII.
Dragoons were intended as infantry men with guns but on horses. So the idea was to move them around, dismount and start shooting. But this practise kind of stopped by the time of napoleon. So ranged cavalry was indeed not really a thing. Also lances and spears were very rare in comparison to just sabers and heavy sabers.
And cannons would probably be best of on a hill somewhere, in a grand battery shooting at the enemy line. Although the could also be among the line but I would say that was probably considered very dangerous. One of the things napoleon did well was placing and moving his guns throughout the duration of a battle to get good shots. Many generals just placed them on a hill and hoped some infantry would get inside the killzone.
I remember this part of the movie!
14:08 I see Festus has two of the same RoR in his army (the Nurgling one). Thought it was only one of each ever.
This pretty much ended as a LegendOfTotalWar video with the ranged spam 🤣
You are right about Napoleon knowing searing doom, generally cav were on the sides of the army, not the bad, otherwise, v. accurate.
Also, you're correct, skirmishers in Napoleonic times were foot infantry in loose formation whereas cav was either melee (mostly sword-armed) or dragoons, who road on horseback but fought on foot.
I know the Indians often put their guns in front of the line infantry to poor effect (Battle of Assaye). I believe the most common tactic was artillery on the flanks. As another comment said though a lot of artillery was horse drawn. I definitely heard though that Napoleon was a potent pyromancer
They had skirmish cav in the napoleon area. They’d have short barrelled muskets and/or pistols with a melee weapon
First thing should be declaring war with Frantz
I remember reading about Napoleon in school, raining fireballs and searing shards of metal on his enemies while riding on a pegasus
You could have also done this with the dwarves, as most people might know Napoleon was a real life Dawi, as evidenced by his vertical issues and homeland of Corsica essentially being just one big mountain.
"How dare you? Joséphine, write that down in the Book of Grudges!"
i like the simple logic behind this whole equation
You earned my like after spitting on the elves.
It's actually wild how strong real Napoleonic infantry unit would be in TW:WH, imagine handgunners with a bonus vs large in melee! I think that's an ROR for some faction - maybe VampCoast?
Napoleon also used a Gunpowder and Smoke Mod too get off once his Old Guard fires a Salvo
"Welcome to Estalia gentleman" -Napoleon.. probably
i find the grave guards in total war such chads because they're a beast for melee tanks.
how do you move them while in the formation you set them in?
I think that Chaos dwarfs would be a better choice to recreate Napoleonic tactics. Infernal guard with fireglaives are basically bayonet infantry