On the grapeshot cannons: No, the rune of burning is not why they are overpowered. They are overpowered because they are REALLY overpowered. That Ammo train mission was hard carried for me with just the cannons. Single target the big stuff, and then when they tried to cross the bridge I switched to grapeshot and took out the entire army in about 2 or maybe 3 salvo's with 4 cannons.
Cannon adventure was the first adventure I took because it made the most sense objective-wise. I quit the campaign at turn 15. I was playing as aggressive as possible and was under no threat ever, it was the least challenging campaign I've ever tried. In most of the battles 90% of the enemies were dead from cannons by the time Spirit of Grugni was summonable. At least with Ikit or Elspeth I felt like those upgrades got stronger over time so i got something to look forward to. With Malakai's cannons I didn't feel like playing anymore when at turn 7 I'm getting a doomstack. Maybe if I went Gyros i would've had more fun
Sorry, but not sorry, you see, clearly saying sorry did not work. When it does not work, the pain then arrives. Do not push us past the sorry stage. lol
I love how derpy autoresolve is, it looks at an army of mostly orc laborers against the fucking royal air force and is like best I can do is a valiant defeat.
@@roslolian11 Its actually remarkably fair on any difficulty in WH3, if anything it favors the players some. Its hard for them to judge some though because all gun armies in the AI hands are very very bad, they get rushed down quickly. Traditionally gunlines get shut down by a single unit breaking through, and require a lot of careful planning on laying them out. So if it runs a quick battle sim without seeing any frontline units it just assumes they'll get rolled over and cant fire. Malekai is barely a campaign anymore though he's so overpowered.
One thing I learned, I believe it was from LegendOfTotalWar, is that spells like regen spells/abilities that are on a timer still trigger on the 0th second. So in actuality, you gyrocopters should be getting 30% extra hp since it heals 30% total from that adventure bonus.
Malakai: *kills every surrounding neighbour, both friend and foe, Kislevite and Chaos, using just his brains, brawn and technological innovation* Khorne: *begrudging nod of respect and approval*
Malakai was never a coward. He just thought the Slayer Oath was a relic of a different time and a symptom of the decline of the Dawi. He took the Oath because he was forced to, but he never intended to follow through because he thought it was wrong for ANY Dawi to seek death. There's few enough of them already and he wanted them to grow with the times. Hence why he and Franz got along so well
"I feel like our people are a dying breed because of relics like the Slayer Oath." "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR TRADITIONS? THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!" "The book is also an outdated relic that holds us back by not allowing us to move on from the past." "THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK _DOUBLE!"_
How so? A gun is anything man portable that ejects a projectile unless it engages a self contained propellant system, then its a launcher. Doesnt explicitly require explosive propellant because railguns, BB guns and bowguns (crossbows without the cross part just a compacting spring and rail) are still guns. They arent a rifle or a firearm, but they are a gun and an arm that fires fire.
@@deathninja16 they are literally drakeGUNS tbh they are a sort of napalm or phosphorous like projectile. yes they are alchemical based, but blackpoweder is that too.
Gun- "a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise" so as long as there is a projectile with mass and something akin to an explosion to propel it, its a gun
4:04 the only downside for the airship encamp is that it doesn't provide ambush protection; however, an airship doomstack doesn't care late game about ambushes
Having played this campaign myself a few times, the cannon doomstack is STUPIDLY OP. However, it's outpaced by the Thunderbarge doomstack. You literally cannot lose. Four full stacks of dragons? Ignored. Four full stacks of max level doomstacks of anything? It will win, handily.
Facts. I once sent around 6 of those things into a settlement and within moments of reaching firing range three enemy units were routing, another was half-dead, and the wall had been knocked down by complete accident. I didn’t even know their main guns could damage walls until then. Honestly, they could use a nerf, but you won’t see me complaining to CA about it. The only weaknesses I can see from them are their cost, their autoresolve performance, and the fact they can’t land, which isn’t really that bad compared to their damage output. Honestly, all you really need are 3 or 4 before your army becomes nigh unstoppable.
Props for using the Fodlan Winds theme towards the end. Really tied the whole ‘demolishing enemy armies with almost zero effort while listening to epic music’ thing together.
Ikkit on a nearby mountain with a stack of scribes: 'write-scribe that down, we take-steal and make even better yes-yes' In other news people are finding empty shipwrecks on land now.
finally a video showcasing what ive been saying since tod dropped. everyone was complaining about the thunderbarge, but the campaign is over long before you get to recruit them, gyros just destroy early to mid game.
I'm gonna wait for the Skulls for the Skull Throne event to see if I can grab it on a sale but I can't wait to try this campaign. Malakai, Gotrek, Felix and Ulrika are gonna save the world baby. Shame that Max and Snorri aren't around to help but, oh well, I'm sure they will make an appearance when Thanquol rears his ugly head from... wherever he is hiding it.
I found your channel back when you did your empire guns only campaign. Wow you've grown a lot since! Happy to see you doing well and to watch another based gunpowder campaign haha
18:25 this army was spawned by the khorne adventure, where you can either kill the champion of khorne or the other 3 champs, but yeah if you don't complete it or clear them they just vibe, probably the nicest chaos fellas out there
Some ideas (since was browsing the different rosters) kislev - spiders grand cathay - sky lanterns nurgle - flies slaanesh or dark elves - daemonettes empire - flagellants tzeentch, beastmen, norsca or high elves - chariots dark elves - animals only skaven - plague monks tomb kings - carrion vamp coast - syreens or mournguls vamp counts - mortis engines
So just to clarify; Flame throwers do count as guns. Sure they may spray a type of flammable liquid at the target, but that is still in the classification of a gun. Though in the case of Flame Cannons, it's a much easier sell. Cause it has the word "Cannon" in there. That is just a big and angry gun. In short, even if it belches flame it's a gun all the same!
Lorewise it kinda makes sense that malakai, and by extension the other ranged slayers, use powerful guns, as the skayer oath states that you must die fighting a worthy foe, but you must do so by giving it your all and fighting your best, so if say a thunderer or artillery team had to take the oaths, their all would be turning the enemies into swiss cheese while hoping one is strong enough to endure and kill them Actually kinda sad when you rhink about it
the whole slayer oath itself is kinda sad. like becoming a dragonslayer, or a demonslayer, may come with a level of prestige and awe for any other race, but its a massive mark of disgrace for a Dawi, cuz it means even a damn dragon or demon wasn't enough to let you fulfill your oath.
“That might be part of why they’re overpowered.” No, that’s just kinda how the Grapeshot Cannons work. It’s balanced out by their value also usually coming from turning your own frontline into paste as well.
True, your front line is either hero's (which will get hit) or none at all..... cause if you had one, the cannons just fire "To who'm this may concern" volley's be it your front line, the enemy, and they have grudges against air in general too.
I'm always shocked how similar the music choices you have in these videos is to my typical vibe. More than once I had to check if I had my music playing in the background lol.
Fun fact, Malakai's adventure units have special effects different from normal units, the cannons have the "Dig in" abbility that increses their range if they stay still and the Thunderbarges have 0 upkeep for example
"As long as I have all the territory and all the gold, I don't care what they think." Bro's dwarf straight up turned into Putin, only he's actually winning battles (for now).
I got a few ideas for my own dwarven campaigns now: 1) ranged only with grombrindal (including artillery and war machines) 2) slayers only with ungrim (can take the goblin hewer as well) 3) regular rangers and bugman’s rangers and miner’s (+satchel charges) only challenge with grombrindal (again). Try to restrict myself to using only lords and thanes
Love seeing this guy's content! Always a great day when I wake up and see what new silly shit he's been working on ❤ Can't wait to see what new Warhammer 3 shenanigans you come up with next!
Airship encampment: Although the airship may stay in the air perpetually, I reason that they still need to drop boots on the ground to gather local supplies, food, and fuel.
Malakai is the only Dwarf to ever look at the slayer oath and go "doesn't say I can't just shoot everything before they get close enough no does it."
if it cant tank a bullet it wouldn't be strong enough to end him anyways...
@@sunshinekreu7684fill something with enough metal and sooner or later it’ll stop moving
He takes his slayer oath as more of a suggestion
Mostly how the slayer oath works for him is he makes really dangerous weapons that he used to kill monsters
"A death from a mechanical mishap is a worthy doom! And if it isn't my doom, at least I get to slay the enemies of the Karaz Ankor."
“Gotrek and Felix may not have guns”
That’s a grudge. You seen Gotrek’s arms? Nothing but guns
Wp
Have another like
That’s it, he’s going in the book.
gotreck aint got gun, that drwaf got cannons for bizpes and not any old normal ones no them arms are called big bess.
Every single instance of mispronunciation of Malakai Makaisson or Spirit of Grungni is going straight into the book.
Better get a new book, the old one is getting full.
@@melle4390 TIME FOR A RECKONING!
@@melle4390 There's no such thing. They'll keep adding pages.
We need a bigger book!😂
Malakai literally says his name lol.
Fun fact! Emergency repairs is actually 30% health restored! It tics at second 0 as well as 1 and 2
On the grapeshot cannons: No, the rune of burning is not why they are overpowered. They are overpowered because they are REALLY overpowered. That Ammo train mission was hard carried for me with just the cannons. Single target the big stuff, and then when they tried to cross the bridge I switched to grapeshot and took out the entire army in about 2 or maybe 3 salvo's with 4 cannons.
Cannon adventure was the first adventure I took because it made the most sense objective-wise. I quit the campaign at turn 15. I was playing as aggressive as possible and was under no threat ever, it was the least challenging campaign I've ever tried. In most of the battles 90% of the enemies were dead from cannons by the time Spirit of Grugni was summonable.
At least with Ikit or Elspeth I felt like those upgrades got stronger over time so i got something to look forward to. With Malakai's cannons I didn't feel like playing anymore when at turn 7 I'm getting a doomstack. Maybe if I went Gyros i would've had more fun
The grape shot cannons were bugged with projectiles having 3 size instead of .3 like the empire does, in the latest hot fix they fix the cannons.
@@robertcerniglia2616 They're still super strong
They still ruin anything they target
To be fair that's very faithful to the tabletop game. Cannons were always sort of bullshit.
Malakai isn’t OP he’s just smart enough to use a gun, and if that doesn’t work… he uses more gun!
For the rare cases where that doesn't work either, he uses a big friggin gun. With axeblades.
Practical solution to practical problems.
the chaos dwarves are just red team
"they've just been vibing for 10 turns"
My brother in Grungni, that's a Slaanesh army, you know what they've been doing for 10 turns.
Yeah, they's usin' their vibes
@@nyx7694
Yeah they were. 😂
guns hurt who wouldve thunk it
you thinked it? i thunk you thoughted it.
", carpet bombed by the entire Canadian Airforce,"
We just stopped sayin' sorry, budd.
The Geneva checklist is ready.
😆
That moment when someone insulted ice hockey?
Sorry, but not sorry, you see, clearly saying sorry did not work. When it does not work, the pain then arrives. Do not push us past the sorry stage.
lol
We have two settings: "Sorry" and "Warcrimes".
The grapeshot on the cannons is one of the funniest things i've used in the game
Oh yeah and it's not just the rune of burning. They can do that kind of damage from turn 5 when you unlock the adventure and then never fall off.
I love how derpy autoresolve is, it looks at an army of mostly orc laborers against the fucking royal air force and is like best I can do is a valiant defeat.
It's because he is playing on hard difficulty.
@@roslolian11 Its actually remarkably fair on any difficulty in WH3, if anything it favors the players some.
Its hard for them to judge some though because all gun armies in the AI hands are very very bad, they get rushed down quickly. Traditionally gunlines get shut down by a single unit breaking through, and require a lot of careful planning on laying them out. So if it runs a quick battle sim without seeing any frontline units it just assumes they'll get rolled over and cant fire. Malekai is barely a campaign anymore though he's so overpowered.
"Everybody shoot the K'daai Destroyer because it will fucking K'daai destroy you."
As America, anything is possible. Just be careful of talking trees.
Drycha: HAH
trees talk? napalm. no geneva convention in warhammer
@@russmanYTIt didnt exactly matter back then either
@@vikingsundlof9040 it’s not war crimes if it’s being committed against people that are a different color than you
@@vikingsundlof9040 doesn't really matter now, either. no one has the authority to enforce them.
One thing I learned, I believe it was from LegendOfTotalWar, is that spells like regen spells/abilities that are on a timer still trigger on the 0th second. So in actuality, you gyrocopters should be getting 30% extra hp since it heals 30% total from that adventure bonus.
Malakai: *kills every surrounding neighbour, both friend and foe, Kislevite and Chaos, using just his brains, brawn and technological innovation*
Khorne: *begrudging nod of respect and approval*
Second before Khorne gets 60 grapeshot cannisters to the face
25:33 Giving respects to the gunner unit that had been there since the beginning, dying to give the short campaign victory.
thank you for your service
BrilliantStupidity: *Says "Grugni." 724 times.*
Thorgrim: "That's going in the book!"
FOR ROCK ANS STONE
Rock.And.StooOOne!
Did I heard a Rock and stone?
FOR KARL
STRICK THE EARTH
from another good dwarf game
Rock and Stone Brother!
24:25 - I think this was everyone's reaction to pre-nerf Dwarf grapeshot. Simply glorious.
"Campaign's haunted."
"What?"
Grabs shotgun.
"Campaign's haunted.'
Malakai was never a coward. He just thought the Slayer Oath was a relic of a different time and a symptom of the decline of the Dawi.
He took the Oath because he was forced to, but he never intended to follow through because he thought it was wrong for ANY Dawi to seek death. There's few enough of them already and he wanted them to grow with the times. Hence why he and Franz got along so well
"I feel like our people are a dying breed because of relics like the Slayer Oath."
"HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR TRADITIONS? THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!"
"The book is also an outdated relic that holds us back by not allowing us to move on from the past."
"THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK _DOUBLE!"_
"unfortunately no guns"
IRONDRAKES ARE RIGHT THERE
he said he wasnt using flamethrower units later in the video
@@Mugetsu542 He should have said it sooner then.... Or just stopped being a female canine and used em.
Flamethrowers aren't guns technically.
How so? A gun is anything man portable that ejects a projectile unless it engages a self contained propellant system, then its a launcher. Doesnt explicitly require explosive propellant because railguns, BB guns and bowguns (crossbows without the cross part just a compacting spring and rail) are still guns.
They arent a rifle or a firearm, but they are a gun and an arm that fires fire.
@@deathninja16 they are literally drakeGUNS tbh they are a sort of napalm or phosphorous like projectile. yes they are alchemical based, but blackpoweder is that too.
The Dawi cannons in the final battle against Khorne be like: "Yes, please, hold up your shields. That just gives us a nice target to aim at."
Gun-
"a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise"
so as long as there is a projectile with mass and something akin to an explosion to propel it, its a gun
Gotrek and Felix plot armor so thick you can't even tell them to fuck off from your army.
Felix' plot armor eventually wares off though.
"its just a gun, that has a propeller on it"
So it is a dwarven A-10.
4:04 the only downside for the airship encamp is that it doesn't provide ambush protection; however, an airship doomstack doesn't care late game about ambushes
Both Gotrek and Felix uses guns throughout their books so it still counts.
7:55 Welcome to Estalia gentlemen!
The darven gods woke me up to watch this video
Having played this campaign myself a few times, the cannon doomstack is STUPIDLY OP. However, it's outpaced by the Thunderbarge doomstack. You literally cannot lose. Four full stacks of dragons? Ignored. Four full stacks of max level doomstacks of anything? It will win, handily.
Facts. I once sent around 6 of those things into a settlement and within moments of reaching firing range three enemy units were routing, another was half-dead, and the wall had been knocked down by complete accident. I didn’t even know their main guns could damage walls until then. Honestly, they could use a nerf, but you won’t see me complaining to CA about it.
The only weaknesses I can see from them are their cost, their autoresolve performance, and the fact they can’t land, which isn’t really that bad compared to their damage output. Honestly, all you really need are 3 or 4 before your army becomes nigh unstoppable.
"So is this dwarf...... one of my people?"
- Balthasar "Kilgore" Gelt
*blasts "Fortunate Son" in the background*
That moment you ACCIDENTALLY make a doomstack! 😂😂😂
Props for using the Fodlan Winds theme towards the end. Really tied the whole ‘demolishing enemy armies with almost zero effort while listening to epic music’ thing together.
Ikkit on a nearby mountain with a stack of scribes: 'write-scribe that down, we take-steal and make even better yes-yes' In other news people are finding empty shipwrecks on land now.
ROCK AND STONE FOREVER
Ohhhh,furi music slaps,dude never fails to deliver
0:17 Hail Omnisiah!
This is the total war Shogun 2 fall of the samurai experience, I love it
"I am a dwarf weapons are part of my religion" -
Malakai Makaison
24:19 that was the most satisfying artillery shot ive ever seen in any total war game
What did you mean when you said "SHORT" victory?
You have the best challenges type of videos on warhammer 3 man
Best there is!
I love that you only discovered the grapeshot cannons right at the end. Imagine the campaign if you had 4 of them right at the start of the run.
I haven't watched a second of the video yet, I just need a little loop of dwarven slayer stomping his feet to Death by Glamour.
finally a video showcasing what ive been saying since tod dropped. everyone was complaining about the thunderbarge, but the campaign is over long before you get to recruit them, gyros just destroy early to mid game.
the dwarf bringing fighter jet warfare to fantasy I see
The...'short' victory?
That ones going in the fucking BOOK.
duuuuude, I've just finished Daemonslayer, didn't know they made Madlad Makaisson into an actual character. Peak dwarven engineering, this is
would love to watch this campaign in real time, great vid.
There's a mod for greybeard's expedition in wh2 that I love for EXACTLY THIS. Guns, guns, and more guns!
"One wrong put right... but the Great Book of Grudges remains full."
settlin grudges ye say? THATS A GRUDGIN!! GET THE BOOK!
I had so much fun playing Malakai. The gyrocopter changes feel amazing. Love them to pieces.
"I have no idea how to classify guns" the most ATF statement I've ever heard lol.
Been beating total war with gunpowder dwarves for a long time. Been waiting for a Lord like Malakai for a long time. He was a BLAST!
By the ancestors. It's Malakai with the peoples shotgun!!
DWARVEN ENGINEERING! RAH!
I'm gonna wait for the Skulls for the Skull Throne event to see if I can grab it on a sale but I can't wait to try this campaign.
Malakai, Gotrek, Felix and Ulrika are gonna save the world baby. Shame that Max and Snorri aren't around to help but, oh well, I'm sure they will make an appearance when Thanquol rears his ugly head from... wherever he is hiding it.
I found your channel back when you did your empire guns only campaign. Wow you've grown a lot since! Happy to see you doing well and to watch another based gunpowder campaign haha
18:25 this army was spawned by the khorne adventure, where you can either kill the champion of khorne or the other 3 champs, but yeah if you don't complete it or clear them they just vibe, probably the nicest chaos fellas out there
Some ideas (since was browsing the different rosters)
kislev - spiders
grand cathay - sky lanterns
nurgle - flies
slaanesh or dark elves - daemonettes
empire - flagellants
tzeentch, beastmen, norsca or high elves - chariots
dark elves - animals only
skaven - plague monks
tomb kings - carrion
vamp coast - syreens or mournguls
vamp counts - mortis engines
So just to clarify; Flame throwers do count as guns. Sure they may spray a type of flammable liquid at the target, but that is still in the classification of a gun. Though in the case of Flame Cannons, it's a much easier sell. Cause it has the word "Cannon" in there. That is just a big and angry gun. In short, even if it belches flame it's a gun all the same!
The real joke is he considers the steam shooting gyrocopters a gun but not the fire options
Brilliant, your continued pronunciation of Makaisson's name is earning you a spot in The Book.
24:18 The real crime here us the fact you have only one unit of cannons.
BRING 10
Watching the bonuses are great
that khorne massacre made khorne happy, blood for the blood god!
A rare video where you do not suffer 70-80% of the video. A fresh sensation. Let's not abuse it.
Grapeshot go boooom, dwarf laughing sounds intensify 😂
those cannons on that bridge was beautiful such a satisfying sight to see
Just finished rereading the first set of G&F books. Makes me happy to see Malakai and the spirit appear 🖤
"war crimes! War crimes! War crimes!"
There battle anthem of the dwarves
This might be your best video yet bro
Gotrek and Felix is and always exceptional. Specially for Malakai Makaisson army.
The tears of Joy of a psycho 24:26
"Respectable". Resplattable. Glorious moment.
Wanna say man you're one of my favourite TW Warhammer youtubers. Missed your uploads, would love to see more frequent videos!
Great application of the second rule of knife fights.
Rule 1: Bring a gun!
Rule 2: Bring friends with guns!
I’m impressed Boris is alive and actually has more than 2 settlements
Lorewise it kinda makes sense that malakai, and by extension the other ranged slayers, use powerful guns, as the skayer oath states that you must die fighting a worthy foe, but you must do so by giving it your all and fighting your best, so if say a thunderer or artillery team had to take the oaths, their all would be turning the enemies into swiss cheese while hoping one is strong enough to endure and kill them
Actually kinda sad when you rhink about it
the whole slayer oath itself is kinda sad. like becoming a dragonslayer, or a demonslayer, may come with a level of prestige and awe for any other race, but its a massive mark of disgrace for a Dawi, cuz it means even a damn dragon or demon wasn't enough to let you fulfill your oath.
“That might be part of why they’re overpowered.”
No, that’s just kinda how the Grapeshot Cannons work. It’s balanced out by their value also usually coming from turning your own frontline into paste as well.
True, your front line is either hero's (which will get hit) or none at all..... cause if you had one, the cannons just fire "To who'm this may concern" volley's be it your front line, the enemy, and they have grudges against air in general too.
It cannot be a true gyrocopter experience without the supreme patriarch himself welcoming you to estalia
today i learned that even khornes units can feel fear as seen on the bridge
I was waiting on this.
Now.... now "wizards only"
I'm always shocked how similar the music choices you have in these videos is to my typical vibe. More than once I had to check if I had my music playing in the background lol.
Good job on releasing this video literally hours before they made big changes to the dwarfs
Fun fact, Malakai's adventure units have special effects different from normal units, the cannons have the "Dig in" abbility that increses their range if they stay still and the Thunderbarges have 0 upkeep for example
Loved your reaction to the grapeshot cannon doing so much work at the end. I think you'd enjoy LegendofTotalWar's Grapeshot Cannon doomstack video
Video ends with SHORT victory? This one goes to the book!
"As long as I have all the territory and all the gold, I don't care what they think."
Bro's dwarf straight up turned into Putin, only he's actually winning battles (for now).
vladolf putin lost that war before he started it.
Crazy how it seems most of the casualties this army takes is from friendly fire.
Wait till you make an army of Dreadquake mortars, most broken thing in the entire game IMO.
Love your video's!
I got a few ideas for my own dwarven campaigns now:
1) ranged only with grombrindal (including artillery and war machines)
2) slayers only with ungrim (can take the goblin hewer as well)
3) regular rangers and bugman’s rangers and miner’s (+satchel charges) only challenge with grombrindal (again). Try to restrict myself to using only lords and thanes
That laugh at 24:30.
No one should ever give this man power.
Love seeing this guy's content! Always a great day when I wake up and see what new silly shit he's been working on ❤
Can't wait to see what new Warhammer 3 shenanigans you come up with next!
10:41 actually 30% since the second 0 counts, so 0s - 10% 1s - 20% and 2s - 30%, thx LegendofTotalWar ^^
Looking like a command and conquer hero with all the whirly birds
Never in my life would I expect a song from Furi on a video about Warhammer but here we are. Excellent taste.
Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again - Great book of Grudges
And here at 24:20, we see the exact moment BrilliantStupidity fell in love with the dwarves.
20:43 the WHAT victory? That's a grudge.
Airship encampment: Although the airship may stay in the air perpetually, I reason that they still need to drop boots on the ground to gather local supplies, food, and fuel.