Nissan LEAF 62kwh Battery Swap
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2021
- In this video, we swap a "new" 62kwh battery into a 2012 Nissan LEAF.
When this car first arrived at our shop, it had a highly degraded battery with only 6 capacity bars remaining (it would only go about 30-35mi on a charge). We were able to swap in this new 62kwh battery, and give the car a new lease on life with over 220 miles of range. That's triple what it's range would have been when new in 2012, and 6x what it would do when it first arrived here!
We learned a lot throughout the process of doing this swap, and we look forward to doing more swaps like it in the future! While it is possible to swap this battery into a 2011-2012 LEAF, it is a much better idea to do the swap using a 2013 or newer LEAF, as they share more hardware in common which makes things work a lot better.
If you are interested in upgrading the battery in your Nissan LEAF, or have any other EV repair questions, feel free to get in touch with us here at QC Charge.
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$10,000 for just the smallest battery? $17,000 for the largest battery? Does that include installation? Seems hardly worth the cost.
@@velocityacoustics Unfortunately id be in at around $3500 at the most. Chevy Bolts can be had for a bit over $10K
The holy grail, if only we could source more 62kw batteries!
Levon: "now barry baby, i got one question? Where DID you get a 62kwh battery pack?" Barry: "shhhh, dont worry your pretty lil' head about it!"
This is fantastic. As battery technology advances I can't wait to see aftermarket refits and upgrades available for all EVs. That will be a great service business. Maybe kits will begin to show up at SEMA every year.
The problem with the Leaf is that they have no cooling system for the battery, it's just cooled by ambient air. Because of this, they can get very hot and degrade very fast. They are restricted to one DC Fast Charge per day, too.
Nailed it
Now THAT will be awesome.
How about a pricing estimate for this upgrade. What do you do w the old battery, can the customer keep it to build a powergrid w if they want? Where is your shop located, great video thank you
@@charlesball6519 that makes me wish that Chevy didn’t stop making the spark EV because I think people would be doing this with that car too
This is the future of all EVs.
love the workshop safety footwear
I noticed that as well. Sandals in a garage. Lol
Great video. Thanks for showing all the parts required.
Great video!! thanks for sharing. Nissan Leaf is a special car. Really nice to see companies offering this services for "repair" of batteries of Leaf.
The Nissan dealership near me has offered to install a 40kWh battery for US$12,400. I may have to wait for the battery to get shipped, but the alternative?
Some guy in Dallas offered to sell me a 62 kWh battery for $16K, and then $1K for the adapter rails, $400 for a "Dala" CAN bridge, and another $3K for installation, he doesn't install the new rear springs (for a battery that weight half again as much? Are you nuts? They're $100 from Nissan, and you can do it with a screwdriver!) and that's before I have to rent a tow rig to get it there...and no warranty. That's north of $21K, and we only paid $26K for the car when we bought it new from Nissan.
It's a 2011 with 80K miles, SOH about 70% (9 bars). I can still go more than 70 miles when fully charged.
Exellent this is a proper mechanic they make it simple job.
I would like to see more used Leaf battery upgrade videos. I have a 2014 s and I would like to do a battery upgrade (and charger port). Also, a video with a heat pump upgrade would be cool too!
I know this is a year old video but Nissan has made their Leaf battery open source. Should make it easier for aftermarket battery packs to be made with no errors, increasing range and longevity of the car.
Did anyone notice how clean the underside of this car was after nearly a decade on the road? These cars don't get filthy or age like gasoline vehicles do. My 2015 is only 6 years old and I live in a state with slushy nasty winters and yet the car is nearly this clean. Amazing ultra dependable little machines. I agree however, with the need to upgrade the 24kWh packs. These were just too small and required recharging far more often than a larger battery would. Recharging everyday, and sometimes two or three times a day, quickly used up the available charge cycles and accelerated the degradation. My wife's newer 2019 has the 62 kWh pack and only needs to be plugged in once a week. With over 200 miles of range and with at least 1000 charge cycles we should easily cover 200,000 miles before seeing significant battery degradation. I'd consider this upgrade service offered by QC Charge if I wasn't living on the opposite coast. Maybe these guys will offer a transportation service soon😃
My leaf is 9 years old, same clean if you live in southeast United States
No petroleum residue to attract filth.
@@tonyperone3242 Ive seen a few oily ones they can get oily 🙄 eveything is just concealed well for aerodynamics, but yeah for the most part a gasser with 200k miles or one thats 16 years old can look unsightly underneath.. buy it still moves.
@@Mark_conoroil from the suspension?
Problem is the cost of the upgrade will be almost prohibitive that you might as well put the used value of your car and the cost of the upgrade towards purchasing a used [newer generation] EV.
That is a very clean shop! Informative video and no annoying music, thanks.
No oil, no mess 🙂
Great video! Will be nice to see a KIA Soul EV from 2015 getting that battery.
If only some Chinese company started making 62 kwh Leaf replacement batteries there will be many orders. Batteries need to be interchangeable to push EV revolution along
There's a company in New Zealand that is started to make new Leaf battery.
They only need to make the cells the BMS and stuff would still be good.
How about US made batteries. Screw china.
Fantastic video!
Absolutely Magnificent INSIGHT 👌🏿
like putting a new battery in my old Gameboy. Glorious!
Great video ⚡❤⚡
Hello. Thanks for your video.
Great news 👏👍
Glad to see someone in the US that finally performing swaps. That's amazing to see that high of estimated range. I miss my 2015 and the only reason I got ride of it was due to the battery issues. Best of luck guys! BTW, I have the JDapter Stub and love it. It's saved me a few times while staying at hotels.
We are not the first in the US to do these swaps, but we are one of only a handful of companies doing it.
The car actually showed 280mi of range with the A/C turned off! Realistically though, 220-230 is pretty close to what the actual usable range should be.
Glad you like the JDapter!
I done my leaf 62 kwh in hitechautomodule about a year ago, in LA. So far so good. I'm getting about 240 miles per charge. Its feel like competly different car!
Where are you guys located? Did the quick charging issue resolve its self?
@@pashko90 hey man can you tell me how much it cost I’m in la too
@@robertp9370 62 pack is about 9k$, plus about 1-1.5k$ to install it.
I'm just wondering if there was a follow up on this particular car that just had the upgrade on how it did after a couple months or maybe a couple hundred miles! is it really giving you what it tells you with the new upgraded battery! Have to see if there's any different changes in the way it drives or anything else hopefully you guys can do a follow-up and let us know and if you have send me the link thank you!
Impressive that you can do this in under 10 minutes! I should find somewhere in New Zealand so my aunt can get hers replaced.
All thanks to the power of editing! In reality it takes "a bit" longer than that, but with all the parts on hand, the swap can easily be done in less than a day.
EV's Enhanced in NZ actually specializes in Nissan LEAF service and repairs, including battery upgrades!
There are 2 companies in New Zealand but I don't remember there names
salute to you, sirs
223 miles ...Yeah baby .Now were talking .We are getting completely shafted by the oil companies here .Its disgusting.Best move I made was buying a leaf .Great video guys .Keep it up.
Does a 2013 nissan lead take oil
How much
@@snowwhite6882 no oil changes needed
I think this is brilliant, given new life to an older EV. I hope the norm will be an ability to swap your tired battery for a new one or a newish one. thanks for sharing.
We actually are now making new aftermarket batteries available for the LEAF, in sizes starting at 42kWh. We expect our first volume shipment to arrive sometime in the first half of October.
@@QCCHARGE - That's awesome. Might be worth the 14 hour drive (tow) to get there, when I eventually need an upgrade.
Awesome is that you can swap battery between each model of Leaf but also quite pity that Nissan didn't go for liquid cooling on present-day models..
Excellent point
Look forward to the Evsenhanced solution which isn't available yet. 16 Blade. With active thermal management. Several UA-cam videos on their site.
You need to turn it off and on again! I love it..
Wow! No oil puddles on the floor! 👍
My Honda CRZ has a ~900WH battery.
It'd be awesome to add a 96v 28kwh battery pack above the factory battery, and drive each rear wheel with a 20kw motor.
It would be cool to just swap the old pack out for a custom larger pack that takes up the old space and raises the load floor of the trunk, but the factory system is not very efficient, requiring the engine to be running for the motor to work, and i think the motor has to run through the CVT instead of being direct drive.
Driving FLT with open toed sandals -nice
I want this on my 2015 SL!
awesome! Cant wait to own an electric hehe
Oooooh… damn. I wish you had started up this kind of service years ago. I would have kept my 2012 LEAF instead of transitioning to a Model 3 in 2018. I loved my LEAF, as it was more comfortable and practical, but even with a battery replaced under warranty its range was insufficient for long distance road trips. I now have… seller's remorse. 😣
These 62kWh batteries have only been around since 2019 in the LEAF+!
It was about a year and a half ago now that we did this swap, and we haven't done any 62kWh batteries since (they are VERY hard to get ahold of).
I wonder what you'd charge for that replacement with 62 kwh batterypack. I'm owning a Nissan Leaf ZE, built 2015, SOH is with 82% - but better mileage is wellcome!
233 Miles....sweet. I was happy when my 2013 charged up to 90.
Was wondering about DC fast charging. That 62kwh pack can handle the 100kwh of the newer Chademo standard in the leaf +. Very cool! I’d love to be able to afford doing one as I like the first Gen body style best.
if thats the case Im jealous, my 2019 Chevy Bolt only charges at a max of 55kw (highest Ive seen it is 51) it takes about an hour 15 to get from 15-80%
I hope the owners are still able to have access to a CHAdeMO station, I know a lot of EVGo, Electrify America, and ChargePoint stations are swapping their CHDMO cables with NACS as Nissan, the last holdout for the standard in the US, pledges to swap to CCS (Probably NACS if Ford, GM, etc. live up to their word and swap next year)
My 2011 lead needs this bad! 7 of 12 bars. Will trade my GTI gasser for a 62kwh pack…
This is cool but.... 22 hours for a full charge with the 3.3kw factory charger 😳
Im still looking for a battery w active thermal management. EVs enhanced did a video about it.
Purchased my 2012 Nissan Leaf 6 years ago and I LOVE this car with the exception of the range, especially since the battery has degraded. I now get (shows) 60 miles on a full charge without ECO mode and no fan (AC or heat) running. If I could put a 62kwh battery and have mine get 200+ miles on a charge I would be so happy. How do I get this done? Is there someone remotely close to me that can do it?
@B Witness Dude, the guy in the video said "that wraps it up, thanks for watching" so he probably stopped the video. No need to be an internet d*ck about it.
@B Witness Apparently you didn't take the time to finish reading my comment. "is there someone remotely close to me..." I live in Ohio and QC Charge is in California. Sending my car 3000 miles across the country is not cost effective. I was asking THEM, not YOU!
You're lucky. Mine gas just gone to 37 on an 80 fast chsrds
I get 75kms to a full charge in my 2013!😂 I’ll be upgrading to 62kWh soon. Bloody expensive though - I heard it might cost $30K😮😵
@@dddeathmannnn buy new car better than
Awesome
Have you guys at QC Charge heard about the new liquid-cooled Leaf battery packs being developed by EV's Enhanced in New Zealand? These new third-party packs could be used for your retrofits instead of using salvaged packs from wrecked Leafs.
So cool! I live in San Diego. How much to install this on a 2018? I have about 92k miles and am thinking about what that will cost vs buying a new car.
If motor manufacturers are seeking to further reduce their carbon footprint, why do they not offer a full recondition service for older BEVs that includes; uprating the batteries, a mechanical overhaul and addressing paintwork issues by deep polishing and touch-up (where possible) in preference to churning out brand new cars? I believe that Renault may be commencing this with their Zoe range but only for very limited numbers.
Because they are seeking to increase their profits more.
Manufacturers don't upfit,, recycle, or overhaul ANY vehicles, not just EVs.
@@tehbonehead Since I posted that comment two years ago, Renault completed their Refactory in Flins and had refurbished 12,000 vehicles as at September 2022, with a target of 45,000 for the end of 2023. But that is the only manufacturer that seems to be doing this.
Oh snap going up against Dala's EV repair UA-cam 💪💪💪💪💪
I'm from Long Island New York
This is the way to go. Use an existing car and put a new battery in it. I do suppose it would be even better if you could put a new and more efficient motor in there aswell. But that would be a huge job
Notice the safety shoes, sure hope those sandals protect his toes from damage.
I love to know what the cost for the upgrade is! I'm very interested in Nissan Leaf. I need to be able to justify the cost. 220 miles sounds good.
What was the cost of the battery and associated fitting?
Great question
???
What we really need is a protocol converter between Chademo and NACS so the Chademo port can be switched out with a NACS port...
where can i get the interface module and hardware used for a DIY swap?
Who’s system were you using to convert the battery? Because I know there’s two people who do it two different ways
Would like to understand if a newer internal charger is an option for the 2011 Nissan leaf and the total cost to install a 62 kWh pack. Exciting progress towards extending the life of our Nissan Leaf.
Sorry, we don’t have anything like that at this time.
@@QCCHARGE Thanks for the quick reply. So when installing a 62 kWh into a 2011 Leaf, the 3.3 kWh charger still remains as the primary charger.
Are there aftermarket battery coolant systems?
My first leaf had this older dashboard, and I like it. What is the newest year that would still have the old dash? And I have seen at least one video about an older model leaf with a newer bigger battery giving it over 200 miles range. That sounds like a USED car I could be interested in
2017 is the newest of the first generation LEAF body.
I want this done to my 2012 Leaf! It has 10 bars, how long would it take to drive itself out there? Can a Rivian tow me?
What were the costs of the battery and associated fitting?
hello QC Charge!! Martin here from deepest wilds of North Yorkshire, UK - curious question re this certainly excellent clip - can you tell me what the v cool track is at 3m 10s to 3m 37s? Strange but true . . .
I wonder if it is possible to change the chademo to ccs ? That would open up. More options on electify america if the chademo is down.
Mark, look up Dala in Finland, he has a project under way to add CCS to a Leaf, using hardware from I believe the BMW EVs.
What's the cost to upgrade a similar model but 2014???
With my 2013 Leaf and just 70%SOH 24 kwh battery I still get 100 kms by careful driving and 8.5 kms per kwh. I think range for lots of Leafs will improve if not going over 90 km per hr..and little revving up and down.....and using regen wisely.
I am already on a second battery - replaced under warranty. After 5 years it is at %70/9 bars and it serves me just fine.
@@alternatereality7713 I just starting getting 8.5 kms per kw power ..by steady driving and ECO and not going over 80 km per hr
How much does the whole process costs? I just bought a nissan leaf 2011 and the battery goes away pretty quickly very annoying
great
Was the mounting hardware for the battery made in house or is there someone who sells this for the conversion? Please share.
I recently replaced my 40kw LEAF with a 62 kw LEAF E+.
One the changes was uprated suspension. Do you intend to do this?
I have a 2015 leaf. Where do I go to get a 62 kwh battery swap??
Hello my friend i want to ask you how much the battery cost and if i want to transport it to different country how much it will cost me?
What is the cost? Still no cooling?
Will it be possible for you to share the mounting kit dimensions, this will help full for me to fix my car replacement battery.
Hi. What is the total cost to upgrading to the 62kWh battery pack for the Nissan Leaf 2012 EV?
This is the same question I have.
Ditto
Same! I prefer the spaceship like interior of the old ones over the more conventional new ones
Ditto
Same.
Do you guys sell the kits to do this? I believe I'm located far away and so wouldn't be able to travel there. If not we're do you get the parts?
Any updates 2 yrs later..?? Cost of swap? Said issues worked out or not..??? Thanks 👍
Thanks for the video, how much is upgrading to the 62kwh battery? Did it work without pairing it with the software?
The total cost is dependent on the cost of the battery itself. The way we do it here, is the customer buys the battery separately (we are willing to help source it, but ultimately the customer makes the purchase), then our cost for the installation is ~$2,500.
The communication module that we use does the pairing with the car (hence why it needs to be programmed while the old battery is still in place).
@@QCCHARGE does this customer ever check in to give an update on how well the Leaf accepted the new battery?
@@QCCHARGE that’s a little pricey for the labor. Not trying to dis your business but that’s a little much. It’s not that hard of an install and can be done in a day correct? Really a few hrs. So what’s y’all’s hourly rate? $600 an hr??? Just sayin.
@@tjblackartist people like him can’t exist if people like you try to tell him he’s overcharging. He has the mind, a shop, guys to pay. Come on man.
@@LncGmz I own my own shop as well. And $600+ an hr is outrageous. Come on man
I hope upgraded pouch cells will be available for Chevy Volts to go from 17.1KWh to 20+
The 2nd generation Volt (2016-2019) used an 18.4kWh battery, so that would be a slight upgrade. I'm not sure if that's been done before or not, so it may or may not be possible to swap one in...
It's pretty unlikely that an aftermarket solution for a larger battery will come to market for the Volt, but anything can happen.
@QC CHARGE that would be ideal, the open source community has a group on Facebook, trying 2 unlock the firmware then it ... may be possible not sure if a 2nd gen would match up!. There has been discussion of buying pouch cells of the right dimensions from Alibaba then doing QC from those.
Luckily the packs seems to hold up well. Increased internal resistance is main issue, have to keep at 5 miles range in hold mode so it doesn't dip too much and peg at 290V where it throttles power to keep it there. 286K miles on my 2013, but I live in a coolish climate Portland Or area so I guess that evens things out
Hey. I’m ready to upgrade my 2015 leaf
How much did the new battery cost and how much did it cost to do the swap ??? Or “job “?
Can you post an update whether you were able to resolve the software problems? Did the overall controller "adjust" to the new battery or no?
Unfortunately this is a limitation of putting the large (62kwh) battery into a 2011 or 2012 LEAF. In a 2013 or newer, the instrumentation should work like normal, but the older ones basically were never designed to work with this much capacity. The car is fully functional, but it just won't really show the correct SOC on the dash.
A 40kwh battery on the other hand could be swapped in and work with no issues in any LEAF (2011-2017).
i have a 2012 nissan leaf car and i need change the battery and i live in north bergen N J.do you know where can i rchange it?
MY 2013 Nissan Leaf NEEDS THIS ASAP! IM GETTING ABOUT 50-60 MILES PER CHARGE ... I HAVE A 24 KW IN MINE ... I LIVE IN Jacksonville Florida /CLOSE TO ORANGE PARK / ANYONE IN THIS AREA DO THIS SWAP ?
So was there any change in the ground clearance with the bigger battery? I had a hard time interpreting any dialogue to this point. Thanks for any response!
There is a 40mm (~1.6") reduction in ground clearance due to the required spacers. Alternatively a 40kWh battery can be installed with no penalty to ground clearance.
The battery isn't being actively cooled and the price of $9500 for the battery and $2500 to replace it means $12,000. That amount of money is a fair amount of money that can go towards a new electric car with greater range and active cooling systems.
True but the older Leafs have 2 advantages. 1 insurance is cheaper and 2 most have dings and dents so you can park them anywhere and blend In.
@@en3rgy187 I'm thinking the same thing. I want more range from my existing Leaf. I only paid $18K for my 2013 Leaf new. New EVs are $40K minimum. $12K for 62kw upgrade doesn't seem that bad.. I'd like brand new cells for that price however..
That’s to much I have replaced a Chinese vw id4 battery 82kw due an accident and it cost me just $8k
@QC CHARGE - Great Video, very detailed, just wondering if you found a national supplier of the Nissan Leaf 62-kwh battery, the actual Manufacturer Part Number for the battery possibly. The video you did here was AMAZING. Additionally, do you have any options to getting the battery at a Wholesale cost, any listed discount that are not available to the general public that you can divulge as well....? THANK YOU guys, keep up the great work and videos
Almost all batteries that are currently available on the market to do these swaps are used batteries out of wrecked cars, which makes sourcing them quite difficult, especially since there is such high demand and they tend to sell in a matter of hours... So far, we do not have any real "supply chain" for these batteries (new or used), and neither Nissan nor AESC seem interested in selling them to 3rd parties.
In the case of the particular battery used in this video, it was actually a near-new battery (never installed in a car to our knowledge) that was part of a small batch of packs used as part of a research project at a university. This one was definitely an outlier, and it would be unlikely to ever find another one like it again.
@@QCCHARGE awesome reply, I've spent 6 days looking for a Japan connection, now I'll just research the exact parts entirely to making the 62-kwh battery itself and see if I am able to piece one together myself entirely ..... 100% appreciate your honesty in the reply back and I do agree the battery suppliers are not interested in 3rd party purchases. It's too new of a market and until China recreates it 100% we're being held back at the mercy of corporate greed..... thank you again guys
The batteries don't come from Japan (at least not for the LEAFs sold in North America since 2013) .
The AESC battery packs used in LEAFs here are actually assembled in Tennessee (not far from where the LEAF itself is manufactured).
@@QCCHARGE can replacement 24kWh Gen 1 batteries be bought from Alibaba and shipped over by sea? I see some China companies making them on Alibaba.
In Portugal, Nissan told me that was not possible to replace the batery of a 24 kw/2015 Leaf. They should learn from this video :)
Nissan dealers will not swap a larger capacity battery.
Was the DC Fast Charging still limited to 50 kW after the retrofit? If so, how long on a 0-100% charge would it take vs the newer leaves which can go higher?
Brandon, yes, the 50kW is limited by the car, not the battery.
Is this car still showing the same range almost a year later
can i use your communication module to build my own battery from lifepo cells ?!
You can do that on a 2011 Nissan leaf yet how much will it cost ....
I wonder how that extra weight (did you weigh both of them?) Affects performance and suspension. Makes me want to buy second hand Leaf even more.
The new battery only weighs about 220lbs (100kg) more than the original, so it's well within the rated weight capacity of the car.
If you're upgrading from 24kWh to 62, it weighs almost half again as much. The Leaf Plus has hardier rear springs because of this; they only cost about $100 from Nissan. Dala (Daniel Oster) recommends upgrading the rear springs, and I wouldn't consider the upgrade without them, even if I have to do it myself (it's not hard, you can do it with a floor jack and a screwdriver.)
how much does it cost and is there a place in los angeles?
What about suspension upgrades?
I have a 2013 24kw leaf that is down to 9 bars remaining. I am getting about 110km out of it. Can a larger battery legally be fitted to it - it still has type 1 connector, but I have a type 2 to type 1 adapter. Still has ChadeMo connector and I have noticed that a lot of new chargers near me are only installing CCS2/Type 2 so probably still got a few years left until CHAdeMo is phased out.
Legality might depend on where you are at specifically. I know that some countries are very strict when it comes to vehicle modifications. Here in the U.S., it is perfectly legal to install a larger battery as long as the car still meets its GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating).
As far as CHAdeMO goes, while there are not as many NEW stations going in around the world, there are certainly not many stations being removed. There are over 600k LEAFs alone that use CHAdeMO (in addition to hundreds of thousands of other cars), so it's unlikely to "disappear" anytime soon. At last count, there were nearly 50k CHAdeMO stations worldwide with about half of those being in Europe, and nearly 9k in North America.
@@QCCHARGE I am in Spain.
Where can I buy battery pack for these vehicles? Is there a website?
What would be the cost of a 62 Kwh replacement?
How much would cost for the swap and your labor ?
Hi there!!! I want to swap my battery but i an from Dominican Republic, i wish to know about the price of 62kwh battery, my battery is 24kwh but has 10/12 bars someone can help me ?
i have a car nissan leaf2012 an i need replaceme the baterry but i dont know where to go i live in new jersey please can you help me