You’re Using Pull Through Knife Sharpeners Wrong - A Closer Look At Pull Through Knife Sharpeners
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- A CLOSER look at the pull through knife sharpener under the microscope.
We look at what a pull through carbide knife sharpener does to a knife edge under a microscope.
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Chapters:
Intro 00:00
00:29 SHOWING High vs low pressure
02:32 Pull through sharpeners edge close up
02:49 Using the ceramic “Fine”side of the pull through
03:09 Use a piece of wood to clean up the edge
03:57 As good as I can get an edge (close up) on a pull through sharpener
04:05 Why close up edges matter
04:29 Pull through sharpeners work! The argument…
05:40 CLOSE up of a brick sharpened edge
05:52 The “illusion of sharp”
06:12 Visualizing sharp how sharpness works. TONS of close up examples
10:03 What’s the alternative? - Навчання та стиль
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Basically the entire country of Finland swears by the Fiskars rollsharp knife sharpener. Would be interesting to know how that works, it uses a ceramic roller stone thingy.
Lol i love your videos. You're funny af
I’d be curious to see what you think of the selectool sharpener. I’ve had good luck with it
I have the Smith's Tri-hone. It has served me well for years. I need to make some strops now because I never thought about the burr. I just used light passes on the fine stone to remove it.
Planning to order the Sharpal as soon as I save enough $. Have wanted some diamond stones for years but until now they were so expensive. Do you have a code for your referal? 😁
I don’t know about cheep but I bought a worksharp hand held that has 2 diamond plates adjustable ceramic round bar with a built on strop and I can put a empty toilet paper roll on the table and slice into it from the side on an angle without touching the roll and complete the cut like it was butter. It’s a great addition to a back pack or camping gear as well and has a built in 20 degree guide as well. Great small investment for someone with bad eyes that can’t seem to keep the same angle on a regular flat stone 🫠
I love that you can pick up a random brick off the side of the road and it will still sharpen better than a $10 pull-through sharpener
In my home town, the ground floor window sills were all hollowed out from years of having been used for knife sharpening. The upper storey sills? Not so much, if at all...
Where's the close up video of brick sharpening? We wanna see how the brick works.
@@dchall8 theres close ups of the brick edge in the video. I forgot to label them on the side by side but it should be easy to tell when listening to the voice over 🙂
@@OUTDOORS55 Sorry, I went through it twice more and can't find an ultra closeup of the brick sharpening. I'm thinking of a shot showing removal of blade material like you have with the blade pulling through the carbide.
I'm an engineer (oh, God, not another one), and we learned about making tools with carbide treated steel in school. I never used that knowledge again, but the carbide pull through sharpeners always seemed like a pretty good tool. Thank you so much for the explanation of why they are not. I have a lot of sharpeners to throw away, now, and one or two to buy.
the bottom ring of a ceramic coffee cup will work even better than the brick, if there's a spot of exposed ceramic that is not glazed.
“This is knife sharpening. We’re not splitting atoms here” - we’re splitting hairs.😅❣️
well maybe if we got it really really sharp, and tried it on an extra big soft atom...
@@daemon1143 Obsidian Blade for the win! I heard that edge can be down to a single atom thin!
@@mcbrite they can be made by pressure flaking to one molecule which, from memory, is about 42 angstrom. However, you can get the same performance from ordinary soda glass like coke bottles etc, if you learn the pressure flaking technique. Surgical obsidian scalpels are made by laser oblation and this gives a more even blade, but doesn't make it any sharper.
We're separating atoms.😅
This was a beautiful ending.
I don't care about knives too much, but I love macro photography. Your work is truly some of the best. Holding the contact points with in such a thin DoF and adding slo-mo, so amazing... You are under appriciated as an artist.
Thank you I appreciated that! It's definitely challenging to say the least. Working on it everyday and still have a lot to learn. Thanks again 🙏
I used a pull through knife sharpener recommended by American Test Kitchen for about 3 years. I stopped shortly after it started chipping the edge off my chef knife. They are garbage. The diamond steel I have now is so much better. I appreciate the videos you made that changed my perspective.
well i love my cheap ikea one. works on all knifes. its stone still good after 5 years
That's what I use too and it's great@@Djuntas
Baffles me how you just keep getting better and more detailed closeups, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if I see a video titled "Physicists, You're Splitting Atoms Wrong". Great video!
Thanks! My close up video and picture set up is super capable but requires a lot of practice to use. So as I get better i am able to use higher magnification as well as some video shots. 👍
@@OUTDOORS55 APPRECIATED, AND MY LUCK OF BIRTH TIMING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET AS IT IS.
This... Is just a FANTASTIC video! Your editing and composition skills have almost caught up with your knife making and sharpening skills... Your sense of humor while correcting your doubters still reigns supreme though.
Thanks my friend 🙏
OldTantoGuy-well said!
@@OUTDOORS55You can explain, give proof, and explain even more. However, those who think a pull through sharpener is awesome will never understand.
Your videos are just great! Your humor always cracks me up. Keep up the great work!
Incredible video. Thank you very much. Should be mandatory watching for every knife user.
You put it perfectly 👌
It amazes me how some people are simply unable to hear the truth and are unwilling to accept that they unfortunately weren't aware of the big picture behind knife sharpening. The fact that you back up every theory that you bring up and they still can't accept it... it's just mind-boggling. 🤦♂🤷♂
Amazing work, as always!!!
Plenty of stupid people in the world
You haven't spent much time talking to creationists.
You make a point my metalworking and technical drawing teacher made nearly six decades ago, in that the striations caused by sharpening a tool (knife in this case) ought to be parallel to the direction of travel of the cutting tool, perpendicular to the cutting edge, and that the "micro serrations" that arose were beneficial. Milling cutters sharpened on a surface grinder, with striations running parallel to the cutting edge will blunt quicker, too...
In another one of his videos he did talk about the edge retention of horizontal scratch patterns too.
Once again: I'm still admiring your macro skills
Working on it🙏
Working IT rather!
It shows ! Footage is on a whole new level 😮
Im admiring his patience to debunk silly myths more tho. The amount of time needed to explain something in this way is insane vs the time it takes for ppl to come up with silly/wrong information!
@@OUTDOORS55 You've improved by lightyears, before i couldnt make out what the hell I was looking at, now I'm just mesmerized.
Literally no channel but yours manages to get such nice and clean shots of what's actually happening to a knife when it's being sharpened. Your videos are an invaluable resource, thanks for sharing all your knowledge so freely and putting in so much effort to do so
Those that don't understand why the blade is viewed under a microscope can have their entire brain viewed under a microscope. Love that you have patience with these "smart" people. Thanks for the content!
Not only did I get to watch an expert dunk on "experts" without being rude or condescending, but also gained a new interest, learned something new, and got to see some really cool macro photography.
W vid.
You know what will happen next: Some will think you recommend sharpening with a brick, the meme will spread and pretty soon bricks will cost $200 a piece. Thanks a lot!
😂
And all those reviews will be piling up on Amazon saying IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING!!
Nooo, not the bricks on Amazon graze again.
SHARPEN WITH ( THE BRICK ) the new innovation in sharpening. Available only at OUTDOOR 55. That’s OUTDOOR 55. Get yours today while supplies last. 29.99 + shipping. Again that’s THE BRICK @ OUTDOOR 55. 😂😂😂. Alex could make fortunes. Free pet rock travel sharpener with every order. I should have sent this to Alex
That would be the Supreme Brick
Enhance...enhance...enhance... EXTREME CLOSE UP! We're not worthy! We're not worthy! Listening to you break it down and watching your camera work is too damn good. Impressive work Sir.
One of the most important things that I learned about knife sharpness it that it's not about what it's going to cut but about what it should NOT be cutting.
It makes easier to do first aid and subsequent medical treatment to a wound that suffered a sharp cut than it is to a wound that suffered a dull cut.
great point to the scratch pattern. makes the use of strops even more important as the refine the edge to be essentially perpendicular to the edge
"in layman's terms this means it's not doing anything"
Lmfao 🤣 I lost it there …. Ugh pull through sharpeners are trash 🗑️
Unless you get the WorkSharp disc - pull through sharpener
😂😂😂
Ya, it is in a way. It's destroying your blade.
Your macro shots are something else
You mean micro
I love the detail of the macro shots. It really shows what's happening where it counts.
One of the best video explaining what sharp means. Thank you so much. I finally made use of my cheap sharpening whetstones.
I’ll get a new one once I outgrow them. Thank you so much for the video.
Yess, I love these technical detailed vids that clear up confusion!
Im always confused 🙂
Love the slight cut off before finishing "It doesn't do any..."
You're awesome, thanks for all this information you find out
Thank you for finally showing us why and how a knife is properly sharpened. With your explaination i only now at 30 years old understamd how to sharpen my blades correctly
The thing is even an incorrectly sharpened blade will cut a tomato better than a dull blade
This is why pull through sharpeners are used. 99% of people want something that helps cut their food better not something that is sharpened "correctly"
So pull through is 100% fine as it gets the intended result even if it is wrong
Your closeups are really beautiful. It's very satisfying to watch knife edges go through stuff!
Another thoroughly enjoyable, edu-muh-cational video endeavor.
The micrographic details of what's actually happening are fascinating.
Oh, and thanks for your sense of humor. I needed that.
Thanks my friend 🙏
I really appreciate the content here. Like a lot of things that I get into; I can't remember how I got started. Here, I am reminded that I once saw a discussion on pull through sharpeners that started me on free hand sharpening. Thanks for the clips. It's hard to understand, at first, what happens on an edge. Knowing how it works and on what sort of scale has been very helpful to me.
Thank you for these videos. I love expanding my knowledge about knives. Now I can be even more of a knife snob than I already am
You captured some beautiful close ups in this one. Your retorts to the haters were funny too
You not only provide great explanations, but incredible and breath-taking macro shots. Outstanding quality.
About the scratch pattern, in the same manner the roof tiles of a house has that pattern is because it gives it its strength. Same as in the edge of a knife, having a good uniform scratch pattern is important because of that.
Awesome video! The detailed analysis and abundant closeup views are amazing. Nicely done!
Man I have been on a BINGE of all your videos as of lately. Awesome content and I've made recent purchases of the shapton stones based off of your reviews and using your links. It'd be really cool to see you dive into or make videos on sharpening larger items too like machetes and ax and explaining whether or not "sharp" is the true goal for these types. As always love the great work
Some of that closeup work is legendary 7:12 is superb churrss mate!
I could watch stuff like 8:33 all day. That could be a whole thing. Kind of like ASMR videos.
@@4saken404 Yep me too its like when someone peels the film off of a screen of some sort sooo satisfying!
I got the Sharpal on your recommendation and its transformed a few of my problems steels, thanks. Stuff like Rex 121 that i could never get really sharp despite forming burrs etc are now screaming sharp.
The angle guide really helps while I'm learning too. Well worth the money.
Do you diamonds strop after coming off your Sharpal stone?
@alfredopampanga9356 yes on 3 micron for burr removal then 1 micron to finish. Lightest pressure possible as per Mike Stewarts' (Bark River) recommendations.
@@rbreiff73 Thanks for your reply. But my question was what grit do you use BEFORE moving to stropping ? 1000 grit? 2000? 8000 grit?
@@alfredopampanga9356 I'm not them, but in my personal experience I don't really ever bother going up from 1000 grit to strop, but I'm just using my knives for to much to justify going higher. To give you a better answer though to your question on their finishing grits, 3 micron is 8,000 and 1 micron is 14,000 grit. They finish with 14,000 before stropping by the sounds of it.
@@MegaBuster777 Thanks. Very helpful. If I understand you correctly you’re saying you sharpen with 1000 grit and don’t strop ?
Loving the macro video!
My wife's pull-through sharpener does get the knives sharper than they were, but I miss my dad's Tormek.
Very professional reviews I like how you throw in some humor. Plus using magnification that's going above and beyond, keep up the good work.
Thank you for documenting your slow descent in to madness, it has entertained many of us.
You are getting better and better in close-ups. Good work!
This man’s footage is absolutely stunning
I have watched a lot of your videos over the years, very good and useful stuff, and this one got me subscribed lol have a great day.
Great photography!
I like how they said you need to get a life. To you know, the dude who makes youtube videos that thousands of people enjoy and learn from. Wonder what they bring to the table, or how many people they make happy or entertain on a weekly basis.
Not being a d*ck, but you do realize there are a multitude of ways to contribute to society that DO NOT involve youtube. For instance, all the fine people that work so hard to provide you with the power you use to watch these videos and make comments on them? The unappreciated individuals that design the devices you watch them on? I could go on and on, but I hope you get the point.
Fantastic video in any aspect. I now see my pull through sharpener differently and will probably use my sharpening stone more often from now on instead of the pull through. Thanks for all the interesting information and the wonderful makro scenes.
Your sense of humor really cracks me up, great video!
Dude you should make a video of "if you can sharpen a knife decently with a river rock", or some other common easily found on the ground rock. It would be interesting to see how sharp a rock you find on the ground can get a knife. And what it looks like under a microscope.
Yes, some people can use a rock. Some can even use a pull-through sharpener.
@@Old_Sailor85 we know lol. we want him to make a video like that though. make the brick or a rock the star of the show. i use a rock to sharpen my flooring chopper a few times a month. any flat rock off the ground is fine. then i dont have to remove the blade fully.
rocks are great for sharpening, its one way people used to/still do it. i dont know the details, but rock composition and shape are really all that matter.
@@TheShizzlemop Yeah I agree. Depends on the rock, but it just would be interesting to see in macro, and i also think it would make a great video.
Bottom of ceramic cup, a piece of sandpaper, the edge of a piece of glass (car window), cement steps...the world is full of knife sharpeners.
You have earned your way into notifications being turned on to 'All'. Keep up the good work and debunking myths.
I spent a few hours last night trying to cut a cake with some jokes (my wife says I have razor sharp wit. Always with a 'tone', but she still says it), but the cake remained uncut. Tonight, I shall apply more pressure in my attempt to cut the cake by employing sarcasm. If this doesn't work, I may starve.
I am taking your advice. Don't let me down 😂
The key is to eat the entire cake hands-free, starting in the center.
Glad to see your sense of humor is alive and well!
IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING
IT DOESN'T DO ANYTH
Love the closeup footage. Really nice! And the whole video was great overall
Watching the edge go through the "sharpener" reminds me of my work as a planer operator. For 7 years I ran a planer making switch points, crossings and frogs for the railroad companies. What an amazing experience watching steel shavings curl and turn cobalt blue. The shavings came off so hot they would nake 30 weight oil burst into flames. 😄😂🤣
Thank you for you videos and don't let the negative folks get to you. I hope your health is improving. 👍🙏❤🤗😁
The Santa Fe RR had a shop in my town that made switch points, crossings and frogs, too.
@@krazmokramer we had a few contracts for Santa-Fe RR. Most were for Burlington Northern (later combined to BNSF) and ConRail. We lost Illinois Central due to management's promised delivery dates. Many thousands of miles of tracks are the same but managed by different companies. It has been 29 years and I can still picture the blueprints, machine set-ups, measurements and angles.
So, was that light pressure or heavy pressure? 🤣🤣🤣
@@jasonmartin1668 😄😂🤣 OMGosh! That was Super Heavy Pressure to shave 1/32 X 3 inch steel. Those machine kept me amazed the whole time I operated them. 👍😁
You are awesome my internet friend! Thanks for all of your productions and test results.
In the UK, we can be arrested if our knives are too sharp and they have to be taken by the Ministry of Defence to be destroyed.
I know you're half joking but my policeman mate literally had to explain to me that sharpening something more than it was sharpened when new is actually 'adapting' an improvised weapon and places a higher presumption of guilt/malicious intent on us if we're stopped carrying it in public. Amazing country to live in.
Great work! One of your best videos. The quality of info was tops and will be helpful to educate the naysayers.
🙏👊
Found your channel looking for tips on sharpening. I keep watching because of the cool shots and good humour.
WE LOVE THE MICROSCOPIC VIEWS
Dude, some of those shots are just too epic😅
Loved this video (like almost all of yours)
Thanks I appreciate the support 🙏
The constant “ It DOESN’T DOO ANYTHINNG” 😂
Its so nice to see the cut on your hand while talking about sharp knifes 😊
Wow! Your photage is mindblowing! This is one of your best videos.
Keep it up! 🙏👌
Man! I love all of your videos, and have been a fan of your for years! Keep up the amazing work man!
Now that's not fair... You somehow found the world's flattest brick
Amazing macro videos! Thanks for using facts and humor to educate on the truth of pull through sharpeners.
Wonderful job Sir! Been enjoying your videos for years! Thank you.
Well, there ya go. Even a brick is better than a pull through sharpener and the brick is actually a multi tasker. Just think of all the other things that you can do with a brick. + Many of us already have a brick HA HA HA!😃
I was never really happy with my pull through sharpener so I bought a Work Sharp thanks to your videos, and after only a couple uses I can say its a big difference.
Hey great to hear!
What an awesome video... The amount of time you put into your editing style and these camera shots is captivating. Keep it up mister.
Very thorough, very clearly explained, and very helpful.
Thank you
Super cool closeup shots ! Do you think would it be possible to include the magnification or some sort of scale on these shots ? I think it woulde be great to better put them in perspective.
Unfortunately I cant really scale them super accurately, since my optical microscope camera set up, and range of magnification optics isnt rated on the same system as traditional microscopes. Plus every image (and video) is processed through photoshop and video editing software so everything is cropped slightly, or a lot, depending on image and optics used.
Could you do a test with a Sharpensbest sharpener? Like this test?
Great video - great close-up photography!
Confirms my suspicions about pull-through sharpeners!
Nice work!
I like the explanation of the scratch patterns. The microscope videos are also very interesting!
I have tried some macro photography before and it was a lot harder to do than I thought.
Whats up broski!? Hope your doing better man!
please stop torturing knives on camera
He does it so others don't.
I'm going to go torture some knives now.
😂
I agree, do it right like the rest of us, in the privacy of our homes!
Knives are people too 😢
This is the most entertaining knife sharpening video I’ve ever seen. I’m LOL. Your humor is on point! Well done and great information. 👍🏻
So satisfying. I do use those little tiny carbide ones in emergency bags and such. It's easy for kids, light weight.
Yes. The clif stamp brick sharpen. Yeeeah buddy.
Good technique makes huge differences there though.
His video basically was that. Good technique can make a huge difference regardless of how expensive your sharpening tools are.
But better to start with decent stuff and learn. Vs trying to use these gimick sharpeners
I can't believe you had to explain a bunch of really elementary ideas because there are adults, who've gone through school, who still cannot grasp these concepts...
They do not, in fact, teach knife sharpening in school.
Not even in High School.
*will not* grasp these concepts...
I missed every single knife sharpening classes in school sorry
@@teabearchurchill5600 If you feel like you need specialized classes on knife sharpening to understand how varying application of pressure could mean deterioration, or lack thereof, of different materials, I'm not exactly sure if you've ever been to school at all (not you the person I'm replying to, just making a general statement. Apologies if it sounds offensive). These are things we're all taught in physics classes.
The comments about not having attended knife sharpening classes speaks volumes about their own intelligence skills.
Did they attend classes to use their phone? I wonder what mechanisms they employed to accomplish that task without attending formal training?
This low level of intellectual engagement is emblematic of a particular political party’s persona today that has thrust its backwardness onto our country. A country that at one time used to reward intellectual engagement instead of denigrating it.
Americas intellectual standing worldwide has placed itself outside of the top 20 countries.
America has the best educational institutions globally. But if you notice, the student population is increasingly more non-citizen and the result shows right here.
Excellent and informative video. It is fascinating to see the cutting edge(s) microscopically close as they do their work. Thank you for videoing this.
I'm actually starting to get better now. It took me about a week of following your instructions before I started to notice my technique increase. It's still not perfect but I can definitely see an improvement and it's so satisfying. FINALLY getting somewhere. The thing is, right now I'm actually better on a diamond stone than I am on a whetstone. The whetstone seems like a totally different monster
I bet he's paid from band-aid industy trying to force us to sharpen our knifes
I'll take the brick thank you.
Thanks for doing these. That was really cool to watch and informative.
There were some awesome cutting shots in this video, great job!
sorry to say that, but my pull through from lansky do work very well! 😅
YES, finally someone else that knows how to use one, I use the Blade Medic, I have MANY different pull throughs and they are basically trash, been using the blade medic for oh,,, about fifteen years, can you get it hair whittling, no, but sharp enough to fillet your fingerprints off, how many how much sharper do you need a knife for everyday use, I just last night put a lengthy comment on this very video explaining how to use and for some reason it didn't show up, figures. I explained that I understand about the micro abrasions and these guys are insanely amazing at what they do BUT the right pull through used the right way works and I can carry it without obstruction in my front pocket, try that with the WORK SHARP FIELD SHARPENER, just takes practice and patience to learn like anything else. Stay safe and God bless.
*iT dOeSnT dO aNyThInG* 🤣
Unbelievable footage dude! The close up on the cutting was ace!
Man those are some beautiful shots. Well done!
!!! Maybe you are splitting Atoms !! Or are you just pushing them apart ??
Great video photography. You have really come a long way. Keep up the good work.
Always interesting stuff Alex. When I'm on the road, I strop my work knife on the top of rounded edge of the drivers window.
This is motivational material to watch before I make a 2nd attempt at sharpening one of my kitchen steak knives for the first time. Learning freehand sharpening doesn't look or feel impossible, but it turns out that acquiring a new skill is not instant and effortless. Who knew?
Love your close-up shots ! They bring another perspective. 😮
I'm a pull through sharpener guy still. My brother gifted me one 10 years ago, I've modded it to a tiiiny thing of 8 to 10 grams. Easy enough to use while traveling, at camp by the fire, etc. The edge is okay for my use, I don't need razor sharp for most tasks. I need to get into stone sharpening and stropping though, as you showed in an earlier video, edge retention would be far better, to the point I wouldn't need to re sharpen during my outings.
The only guy talking about such a serious topic in a funny way
i have to say, this is amazing video footage! keep up the awesome work!
Thank you very much for this video, it really opened my eyes to how important and useful the correct sharpening is. Especially the close-ups were amazing.
Subbed as soon as i saw you sharpen on a brick. I learned to sharpen on sandstone bricks around my grandparents flower beds when i was around 8 years old. All those hours with a cheap pocket knife and a brick through my younger years were well spent.
Oh my, I loved literally everything in this video!
Very cool to see what I was taught in leatherworking class about keeping your tools sharp in such detail!
I really like your sense of humor. Right on.