I actually love this shorter format! I also love the two hour deep dive podcasts, but this was actually informative and fun without getting deep in the weeds. Thanks Simon!
It would be great to see Layne Norton back on the podcast for a deep-dive. He seems to care about distilling the evidence for his audience and using the science to debunk the exaggerated claims of many social media creators. He is one of the few true nutrition scientists I've been able to find providing evidence-based, unbiased, comprehensible content with ample references to published literature. I just wish he provided more long-form, deep-dive content like The Proof does, although I realize that takes a tremendous amount of time.
“Misinformation always has unintended consequences” 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 layne is a breath of fresh air. I’ve never encountered his content before but have heard him mentioned many times. Now I see why. I like his no bs attitude and his perspective on misinformation. It’s important to be as loud as the noise sometimes.
This was awesome. How this doesn't have a million subs and/or views is beyond me. Keep pushing. Simon you summarised Laynes manic delivery (of which is also awesome because we love his passion). The balance of both of you speaking together is so amazing to access. Thank you for this free and well researched content.
Thanks for the helpful perspective! Love the podcast! Speaking of dogmatic diets, I would appreciate an episode looking at the nutritional claims of the Western A. Price foundation. Their perspective (and especially Sally Fallon’s book “Nourishing Traditions”) have a big influence on several health conscious folks in my community.
YES I would love to see this as well!! I came across the Weston Price folks on my progression from vegetarian to vegan and some of it is surface level plausible, until you realize they're anti-science woowoo quacks. They also make and sell their own snake oil supplements. Would be a super fun episode.
Very interesting. Layne was informative and objective. I would like to hear what information he has on other topics around weight loss, diets, etc... The comment he made about why some people are successful on some diets and not others, brings an awareness I'd never considered.
The main issue is buckets of very attractive hyper-processed foods and fake food - that problem needs to be focused upon rather than groups, who ninety percent of the time are in accordance, battling over trivia.
I agree with the idea that there are real consequences to misinformation. I was eating so much saturated fat, making bacon, so I could save the lard for cooking...Yes, thank God, I'm Still healthy
There is a hormone called insulin that tells the fat cells what to do. When insulin is high, the fat cells are in storage mode. When insulin is low, it allows fat to be released from the fat cells to be used as energy. It is interesting that Layne never addresses or acknowledges how this works. One out of three people are insulin resistant which means often their insulin is very high. There are studies of normal people eating a low calorie diet, that were given insulin, and they all gained weight. It is true that most diet and exercise plans will work with consistency, but hormones and gut bacteria play a huge roll. It just makes it harder for some people. If you are insulin resistant, then get a continuous glucose monitor and don’t eat anything that creates a large spike your blood sugar.
This video has made it very clean that Norton has not done his research on Bikmans work. If Bikman was sitting next to him, he would agree with everything he is saying. Norton isn't proving anything. He is ony proving that he doesn't understand Bikmans work, and he probably has only watched the 5 second clip of Bikman and has taken it completely out of context. My level of following Norton just went way down becuase if this is the amount of effort he puts into his research about another scientist he is going to disprove, then I can't believe anything he is saying about any of his other videos. Norton is clearly smart and educated, however don't twist Bikmans work to make it sound like you are disproving him.
Like Layne Norton always like to mention"that is my wheel house" referring to his PHD, he should acknowledge that Professor Dr.Ben Bikman's wheelhouse is adipous tissue aka fat cells.
It is so interesting for me to hear other opinions. In Germany, low carb, a few fruits, and avoiding omega 6 are the common recommendations, in my experience. I dare to eat bananas now and then after listening to your podcasts :P
I am german as well but i have never heard of these recommendations being seen as common. By common you mean what exactly? The health ministry or doctors? These recommendations seem to come from people who follow keto/atkins type diets. I always grew up learning (in germany) that for health it is important to eat whole grain products (rice, bread, pasta etc) fruits and veggies and to not eat too much fat and processed foods and isolated sugar, that is what i would call common recommendations - in germany and i guess in most other countries as well.
@@Laura-je2uw Yes, of course, whole foods and no processed foods as well. I think everybody agrees with that. I grew up in the same way, but I have a strong feeling that in the last 5 to 10 years, people's attitudes toward fruits, Omega 6, and carbohydrates have shifted. At least in my bubble (including some doctors I visited).
Conversively, when you do liposuction, is it possible that since those hungry fatcells are gone, hunger goes down? If you despite this regain weight I suppose you are making fewer fatcells bigger. As far as avoiding fat gain it seems that fewer fatcells than what you used to have would be better, since the bigger ones are less hungry?
From what I understand, liposuction is not a "weight loss" surgery and is specifically advised against for people who are overweight, it's a sculpting procedure for people who are normal weight but want a slightly different shape. The amount of fat cells removed is very small and not enough to impact hunger levels. "Weight loss" surgeries are gastric bypass or lap bands which affect the appetite and support weight loss by limiting food intake.
@@Amshatelia88 Absolutely, but I'm not sure if the fat cells removed do not actually affect hunger, even though the amount of fat cells removed isn't great. I only have anecdotes describing this phenomenon.
What people who have lost a lot of weight are looking for is why we lost weight. I weighted 400+ I weight 175 now. I did low carb and inter fasting. Why did it work.
Lane is smart but so what when he is rude and arrogant .That's prob why bikaman won't come on to waste his time . He expects his interpretations of data to be the only ones but trashes others. That's not cool.
Very confusing discussion This Layne lacks clarity in his science overview. The recent overview from the Women health study demonstrated clearly that insulin resistance is the main driver behind many diseases. I am sad to hear that he does not believe that
Waste of 20 minutes....opening remark that you can find a mechanism to prove anything you want...goes on to use that to support what he wants. Two young guys trying to get noticed by supporting corrupt science vs successful mature adult that actually helps people reverse metabolic diseases. I'm sticking with Ben...easy to understand and his approach works!
I actually love this shorter format! I also love the two hour deep dive podcasts, but this was actually informative and fun without getting deep in the weeds. Thanks Simon!
Ya ill watch a hrs long podcast over multiple times but for some reason when its chopped into shorter bits im just more receptive to the information
It would be great to see Layne Norton back on the podcast for a deep-dive. He seems to care about distilling the evidence for his audience and using the science to debunk the exaggerated claims of many social media creators. He is one of the few true nutrition scientists I've been able to find providing evidence-based, unbiased, comprehensible content with ample references to published literature. I just wish he provided more long-form, deep-dive content like The Proof does, although I realize that takes a tremendous amount of time.
“Misinformation always has unintended consequences” 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 layne is a breath of fresh air. I’ve never encountered his content before but have heard him mentioned many times. Now I see why. I like his no bs attitude and his perspective on misinformation. It’s important to be as loud as the noise sometimes.
This was awesome. How this doesn't have a million subs and/or views is beyond me. Keep pushing. Simon you summarised Laynes manic delivery (of which is also awesome because we love his passion). The balance of both of you speaking together is so amazing to access. Thank you for this free and well researched content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the helpful perspective! Love the podcast!
Speaking of dogmatic diets, I would appreciate an episode looking at the nutritional claims of the Western A. Price foundation. Their perspective (and especially Sally Fallon’s book “Nourishing Traditions”) have a big influence on several health conscious folks in my community.
YES I would love to see this as well!! I came across the Weston Price folks on my progression from vegetarian to vegan and some of it is surface level plausible, until you realize they're anti-science woowoo quacks. They also make and sell their own snake oil supplements. Would be a super fun episode.
Very interesting. Layne was informative and objective. I would like to hear what information he has on other topics around weight loss, diets, etc... The comment he made about why some people are successful on some diets and not others, brings an awareness I'd never considered.
I like Layne as well, he is truly committed to objectivity and that's a rarity these days.
Love the shorter format!!!
The main issue is buckets of very attractive hyper-processed foods and fake food - that problem needs to be focused upon rather than groups, who ninety percent of the time are in accordance, battling over trivia.
This is a great episode! Thanks for sharing.
I agree with the idea that there are real consequences to misinformation. I was eating so much saturated fat, making bacon, so I could save the lard for cooking...Yes, thank God, I'm Still healthy
There is a hormone called insulin that tells the fat cells what to do. When insulin is high, the fat cells are in storage mode. When insulin is low, it allows fat to be released from the fat cells to be used as energy.
It is interesting that Layne never addresses or acknowledges how this works. One out of three people are insulin resistant which means often their insulin is very high. There are studies of normal people eating a low calorie diet, that were given insulin, and they all gained weight.
It is true that most diet and exercise plans will work with consistency, but hormones and gut bacteria play a huge roll. It just makes it harder for some people.
If you are insulin resistant, then get a continuous glucose monitor and don’t eat anything that creates a large spike your blood sugar.
@@Suzoebas go carnivore ❤️👍
Super interesting, also love your Cap Simon haha
I’m overdosing on seed oil misinformation overconsumption.
I'm all about the Polyunsaturated Facts
This video has made it very clean that Norton has not done his research on Bikmans work. If Bikman was sitting next to him, he would agree with everything he is saying. Norton isn't proving anything. He is ony proving that he doesn't understand Bikmans work, and he probably has only watched the 5 second clip of Bikman and has taken it completely out of context. My level of following Norton just went way down becuase if this is the amount of effort he puts into his research about another scientist he is going to disprove, then I can't believe anything he is saying about any of his other videos. Norton is clearly smart and educated, however don't twist Bikmans work to make it sound like you are disproving him.
Like Layne Norton always like to mention"that is my wheel house" referring to his PHD, he should acknowledge that Professor Dr.Ben Bikman's wheelhouse is adipous tissue aka fat cells.
It is so interesting for me to hear other opinions. In Germany, low carb, a few fruits, and avoiding omega 6 are the common recommendations, in my experience. I dare to eat bananas now and then after listening to your podcasts :P
I am german as well but i have never heard of these recommendations being seen as common. By common you mean what exactly? The health ministry or doctors? These recommendations seem to come from people who follow keto/atkins type diets. I always grew up learning (in germany) that for health it is important to eat whole grain products (rice, bread, pasta etc) fruits and veggies and to not eat too much fat and processed foods and isolated sugar, that is what i would call common recommendations - in germany and i guess in most other countries as well.
@@Laura-je2uw Yes, of course, whole foods and no processed foods as well. I think everybody agrees with that. I grew up in the same way, but I have a strong feeling that in the last 5 to 10 years, people's attitudes toward fruits, Omega 6, and carbohydrates have shifted. At least in my bubble (including some doctors I visited).
Oh this is gonna be good!
Conversively, when you do liposuction, is it possible that since those hungry fatcells are gone, hunger goes down? If you despite this regain weight I suppose you are making fewer fatcells bigger. As far as avoiding fat gain it seems that fewer fatcells than what you used to have would be better, since the bigger ones are less hungry?
From what I understand, liposuction is not a "weight loss" surgery and is specifically advised against for people who are overweight, it's a sculpting procedure for people who are normal weight but want a slightly different shape. The amount of fat cells removed is very small and not enough to impact hunger levels. "Weight loss" surgeries are gastric bypass or lap bands which affect the appetite and support weight loss by limiting food intake.
@@Amshatelia88 Absolutely, but I'm not sure if the fat cells removed do not actually affect hunger, even though the amount of fat cells removed isn't great. I only have anecdotes describing this phenomenon.
@@carinaekstrom1 it's definitely an interesting question!!
What people who have lost a lot of weight are looking for is why we lost weight. I weighted 400+ I weight 175 now. I did low carb and inter fasting. Why did it work.
Sustained calorie deficit. Well done!
Anthony chaffee, ken Berry, Shawn baker, carnivoredoctor. They will tell you❤
Looking forward to listening....Typo in thumbnail
@@TheProofWithSimonHill got corrected. Said "makes" instead of make at one point.
Who doesn't like a quickie? Hahahaha 😂🤣
Lane is smart but so what when he is rude and arrogant .That's prob why bikaman won't come on to waste his time . He expects his interpretations of data to be the only ones but trashes others. That's not cool.
Very confusing discussion
This Layne lacks clarity in his science overview.
The recent overview from the Women health study demonstrated clearly that insulin resistance is the main driver behind many diseases. I am sad to hear that he does not believe that
Lol. Wake up!
Might not want to bring up Hitler in a nutrition disagreement, Layne
dude, unblock me on Twitter!
Waste of 20 minutes....opening remark that you can find a mechanism to prove anything you want...goes on to use that to support what he wants.
Two young guys trying to get noticed by supporting corrupt science vs successful mature adult that actually helps people reverse metabolic diseases.
I'm sticking with Ben...easy to understand and his approach works!
Not for everyone it doesn't..just made my fatty liver worse