Exactly. Even though I am not from USA I still witnessed the same thing from my parents and when I started working myself. The more you do, the more they expect from you and the more work they will give you. But they will not give you more money for overtime or more time off. And in the end it is you who is overworked and underpaid. Most companies take what they can as long as they can. And then they replace you with a blink of an eye for someone who is less capable and less experienced but who asks a bit less money than you did. And they see it as a win. So no, I am not working overtime for free, my time off is my personal time.
Except they're going to the other extreme end, doing the bare minimum amount of time, the least amount of work they can put in, and being the most disagreeable employees and coworkers.
@@judyperri9496not true. we just know that we don’t matter to corporations and even the hardest workers will be let to drown if it means the company gets a dollar. The 2008 financial crisis was huge for most of genz in north america. Besides it’s not like the money i get from work goes far, might as well have fun and enjoy myself. because once i get home, it’s hard to be happy when i can’t afford to hit the same financial milestones boomers did. Homes are a million dollars unless they’re in the country or an area with poor infrastructure and social services. Meat is too expensive, there’s no where to hang out where you don’t have to spend a ton of money (third spaces). I don’t owe a company anything because apparently they don’t even owe their workers the decency to pay a fair and livable wage
they noticed their parents get overworked and they could see that they where supposed to get overworked the same but for a fraction of the pay thx to inflation. Boomers are shocked that younger gens dont work much anymore when it was boomers policies that made the dollar worthless.
not really. you don't *Have* to participate. my mental illnesses don't allow me to work, am on social security disability, claiming food stamps & section 8, and free phone service. why participate when I can just chill at home?@@noiz1762
Im gen z salary…. Im supposed to have a 40 hour week, but I work usually 70+. No OT either. And idgaf. Ive got nothin elese better to do. I could play some games- but I could also be working and learning new skills in the process, to get a higher paying job. All these stereotypes were also made in the nineties by Genx about boomers, and their forefathers. Boring af to me.
As a Gen Z, it’s perfectly fine to offer overtime with overtime pay. We all know we need the money. If you don’t wanna pay for my extra time, then you don’t really want me here.
Exactly! I’ve had hourly rate and salaried jobs and I would only do overtime in the hourly jobs. Salaried jobs, especially office jobs just _expect_ you to do overtime, with no monetary compensation.
Yep. The Gen Zs I work with work way more than me because we all get paid for doing overtime so they're happy to do it. I won't because I'm happy making enough to get by and enjoy my time off, but it's nice knowing that if they want extra out of me I'll get paid for it.
That’s what I’m saying. I was always happy to work over for time and a half. These other folks are either salary or fuckin lazy. I like money, so you won’t catch me bitching. I’m glad they make enough to not work overtime. No amount is ever enough for me.
Most of them will absolutely not offer you OT but still expect you to stay. that's why I'm the " NOPE NOPE NOPE" guy. I've seen people in the same company for years with crumbs for raises. Just give me my experience so I can move on and apply to a place that actually values me as an employee. Considering the boss in this clip said "growth opportunity," im assuming he meant work for free
@@raptor_guy2327right? A lot of those peoples arguement is also "Back in my day we worked pur ass off and were constantly tired and had no time for our family and friends, so you need to go through the same thing" Like, huhh???
@@vivi-ws9ylthis happens with so many subjects! My 45-year-old supervisor who's not even qualified to be a boomer for her age, had no empathy that our workplace implemented six month maternity leave because she never got that. She just bitches about it. It's so selfish.
Gets you zero. Even if you're a top performer, you can lose your job any day. No notice, they just hand you a box and have the security guard escort you off the property. Why would anyone be loyal to *that?*
Yep. At my last company, I was the one of a few millennials that signed off on time. Way too many would happily work extra hours. We all got laid off regardless of whether we put in a shit ton of extra time or not. Hope they learned something from all that.
If I work late one day, I work less the next. I think that’s reasonable. My boss is gen x and is very encouraging of that mindset. I won’t work more than 40 hour weeks. Prior to me going on maternity leave, she was teaching me that if I have nothing to do, I can stop working early and don’t have to find trainings to fill my time 😂
@@BrookeDoesScience I worked 50-60 hrs in my 20's for about 2 years and by the time I was 28 I got a triple promotion and a huge raise and mad respect. Hard work always pays off.
Honestly, I am German and we have a saying going "Feierabend ist Feierabend" and that is a Motto that our workers with 50+ years keep up and that is why I love those guys. I remember me working in this office job, 19 years of age, and I was about to take my Laptop with me to finish some stuff up. And this old engineer about 55 years old said: "You have worked 8 hours, leave that thing here. If it needs to be finished it can be done tomorrow, because free time is free time, go home and relax". And that is exactly what I am living by now. 😌🙌 So my working changed uttely, I give 100% at work and 0% out of work, it it needs to be done so bad, do it yourself or be patient and ask me tomorrow.
Yup. Germany has been teaching me so much about work boundaries. As an American in Germany I had to learn the hard way that closing time is really at least 15 minutes earlier than what the sign says because all the workers are walking out the door at closing time.😅
Not every family, company or coworker is like that though 😬 we also have a lot of people who think working is the only real thing to do and you shouldn't set boundaries at all otherwise you could lose your job.
@@dastubeurt6316 it definetly does not give you either of those things, at all. You can work 80 hours a week, you still go home poor, counting your money to check if you have enough for food tomorrow, you can work extra hard of course, but you'll reach the end of the month and realise that it wasn't worth it, at all, they increase your tax placement, social security payments increase and you're sacrificing your own personal time to do it only to reach the conclusion you got marginally more money, not enough to make a difference in your life at all except you are now overworked, more tired and your boss is abusing you. As for reputation... no, they don't give a F*CK about if you are willing to work extra or not, what do you think will happen? huh? that your boss decides you have been a mucho good boy and give you a promotion? no... sorry to burst your delusional bubble, but what happens is your boss will keep you exactly where you are because that is where you make him money, you are nothing but a number wake the f*ck up, this is not the 1960's anymore, it's 2024, no one cares about reputation unless you are a celebrity, your boss doesn't give a shite about you, he is not your friend and if he is, then you are the guy everyone else at the office hates because he gets preferential treatment and is skipped to the top of the line for a promotion despite everyone else being much better at your job than you. TL:DR- You are NOT getting rich or get recognition for working extra hard, that is a delusion
@@dastubeurt6316 If by money you mean increase in overall wealth, no it doesn't, at most it gives you some taxable pocket change and seriously? reputation? is this the 1940's? the only thing that bosses will do once they find out you work extra hours is keep you exactly where you are, passing you up for promotions because you make them money where you are, instead they will promote the guy next to you who doesn't work extra hours and is worse at the job because they don't make him enough money compared to you. The sooner you realize that you will always, for the rest of your life, be at the bottom and that incompetence is rewarded far more than hard work the sooner you will be at peace with your fate. You will never be rich, no one will ever give you recognition. Also, while I'm bursting bubbles, Santa isn't real, thought you should know.
@@badboycookingthen you simply need to identify when and where it is worth working overtime. Oftentimes even staying a little bit longer to help the boss will give you a great reputation and the perks that come with it.
As a millennial, this was me in my 20s. Everyone around me was telling me how replaceable I was, so *I* needed the job but they didn't need me. Now in my 30s I legit laughed at one of my bosses when they asked me to stay and walked away last April. Still going strong at this job. They can say they don't need you all they want, but they lose more money firing you and spending months on the hire than they do not getting that overtime. And I've been unemployed before (for over a year) thanks to the pandemic; I'm not scared of that anymore.
Yeah, working in IT, i only stay late if it's a DIRE emergency (I work in healthcare), or it's my turn to run patch night. If I do stay late, I go it late or leave early the next day.
@@katiekaye7481I got covid and had to cancel my birthday plans that were 6 months in the future because my job forced me to use my PTO during my 2 week quarantine :,)
As a Millennial that endured the same thing...same. My time is precious they can go fu*k themselves. I hit 10 years next month, my company got my effort these past years and now I work a crappy schedule and not even compensated enough for my time. I'm gone from my office 10 minutes before I need to punch out and decline anything that is last minute.
Makes me think of the lady that got sent an email at like 4:57 on Friday and her day ended at 5. She didn't respond, obviously, because a normal person is signed off 3 minutes before the end of their work week; and then at like 8:14 the next Monday got a "I emailed you 3 days ago" follow up when in reality, it had been sent essentially 17 "work minutes" before. And some people were siding with the idiot who thinks an email sent 3 minutes before the end of the work day requires a response. Sorry, but at 4:57 pm on Friday, if it can't wait until Monday morning, you call the person, ask very nicely and offer them overtime. Otherwise, it gets handled on the next business day. No exceptions. And I'm sure somebody will be all "you'll always be poor with an attitude like that." But I'm not poor and make six figures. Go back to your moms basement.
Oh lord, my mom had a boss like this. If my mom had something come up on her end outside of office hours, she didn't hear from her until the next work day...in the afternoon. But my mom goes to bed at six so she can be to work at six and her boss repeatedly would try to contact her outside of work hours as late as nine. I remember because she had sent out the text to my mom's work phone and when she didn't answer in five minutes, she called until it was picked up. So if my mom tries to contact her boss over a staff shortage and that's not an emergency when you don't have enough people to cover your department, what short-of-a-natural-disaster are you calling her for? And no, it wasn’t COVID.
@asadb1990 She has sleep problems but my dad works swings so she goes to bed that early also because more often than not, he will wake her up when he comes in to lay down at 2-3 in the morning. She will still go out from time to time and be up past 6pm but it's her MO during the work week.
@@wiljaxbrantley342 ? I do my job I just don’t let them take advantage and abuse me! It’s not like they would care if I just vanished and died. All they’d have to do is put up a hiring sign😂
Got advice from someone whose worked for 25 years who said showing excellence in the workplace just makes you the person to take on everyone's responsibilities. If you're going to push yourself to work hard, it's better to do it on something you're building yourself
Gen X here and I can say we are this way to our own detriment🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️. Give and give and give to companies who wouldn't hesitate to let us go in a flash.
I’m Gen X and that’s exactly how I would have and have responded when asked to get something done at the end of the day. We have been so abused by corporate America. 😩
I think it's because we don't wanna do it the next time when we know we can "knock it out in 30" lol. They thing with gen x, we do the work so we can have time to slack off lol
@@tannersharp643im millenial but it rarely ever got to me staying late. When a boss approached me after 4p, i learned to ask in a slightly annoyed tone, do you want this done before i leave, and i always got the "no its fine for tomorrow before lunch". Most times it was a small task that would take maybe 30min to 1h but i would be damned if i stayed a min late. Im from canada and in winter, if i leave 5min late, im easily 40min late to home due to commute. After many years i keep looking towards working less than the weekly 40h if possible.
As a gen z kid, its just the fact weve learned hard work gets you nowhere in life or in a job, you can give you full 100% at all times and we will always be trated as if we are just kids, and when we bring up things and try to advocate for ourselves they say we have everyrhing "handed to us" even tho we work the same amount of hours as everyone else if not extra while were in school, and weve done it since we could work
@@Jecht1221Older generations assume the younger generations have the same situation, that we’re dealt the same hand of cards. We aren’t. Our hand is much worse. Most of us won’t ever be homeowners.
I'm a millennial and I keep a sticky note on my laptop with a course of action for things like these, including when to say no 😂 because I will immediately say yes otherwise.
My paychecks only barely paid my bills for a small studio apartment in 80's and 90's. Most of the time I couldn't afford a car. I also didn't have a color TV or cable. As a Boomer I still don't have TV or cable. But I have a killer home and no mortgage after spending years working hard to pay for it while not acting like I was owed for merely existing.
You could afford an apartment and your bills with one job. Where most of America can’t afford an apartment on their own not to mention additional bills on a single job income or without roommates. That’s our point Mel. Whereas you could do all that in a job where apparently reading comprehension wasn’t a fuccing prerequisite as evidenced by your comments
@@alexanderhuezo958 yea but I couldn't have a car and a phone, let alone a computer. With a computer you have so many options available that I didn't. You literally have more computing power in your hand than NASA had when they went to the moon. But I get it. It's easier to be a victim and blame than to actually work with what you have and succeed in life. The difference between us is that I never felt entitled and didn't blame anyone but myself for my hardships. Ultimely that attitude lifts one higher. You'll stay where you are due to your negative mindset. Good luck. 🤣
i’m gen z and i can usually feel when im gonna be asked to do some over time so I always work a “prior commitment” into a conversation to make it seem like I have somewhere important to be at 5:30 or 6.
A wonderful technique! I use this too. Saying, " oh yeah, I'm planning on having dinner with my parents, they want me to help them with XYZ before they do ABC in a day or two. But I won't be able to be there to borrow because I'm already doing this tomorrow." Just, burning them in "I'm busy as heck, ask someone else."
Yup as a millenial, I work 7-3:30, you want me to do more you A. Have to give me notice, I have a life outside my job duh, B. You will pay me or I will walk out periodt
Eught hours shouod be reduced to 6 hours ... we the people csn do it ... americans can do it please for tge better future of human..corporates csn afford hiring ..but we r givibg our lives off ... so full time shiuld be reduced to 6
I’m millennial and at first when he said “no absolutely not” I’m thinking 🤔 and then he says “then I’m signing off early tomorrow” I’m like ahh ok there it is 😅 that sounds familiar
This is me and my work friend, both millennials, with one specific boomer colleague. She leaves work around noon to continue working from home, outsources everything to us that's not appealing to her and then gets angry when we won't come in early for occasional tasks because we already spend way more than eight hours per day at work. She seems to think that we're super lazy, and when we're sick she's like "cut back on your domestic duties but make sure you come to work". Like no ma'am, I'm not the one vacuuming my house while still on the clock.
I like the positivity of the Gen x representation .. he’s just like “well … life sucks, no point trying to fight it - I’ll get it done in 30 minutes” 😂
I really hope my kids fully understand that corporations are not worth your sanity or happiness. They would just as quickly see you die to cash in on an insurance payout and they would ask you to stay late “for the team”. My babies can live with me between jobs until they find somewhere that values them and meets their standards. We have one life and I will happily spend the rest of mine working to make sure they get to actually enjoy theirs.
As a millennial that gets paid by the hour. I do not care about an extra hour that I’m getting paid for. Edit: just to be clear. I already work 40 hours. It’ll be overtime or I’m not doing it. That’s the price they pay
As a Millennial myself, I have no problem with OT if I'm already there. My company already got me to come in after clocking out and are constantly trying to get me to come in on my days off. It's a bunch of garbage.
First time ive seen support from generations about younger people setting boundaries and not wasting their lives for companies. Warms my 50-80hr a weeks hear as a gen z who struggles to say no lol.
I'm a zillenial, I think? I stay late sometimes, but only because my company gives us a flexible work schedule. If we do more hours in one week, we can do fewer hours on another, or vice-versa. The total just has to match up at the end of the month, can't be too far over or under. (we have some public funding, meaning frequent audits, meaning the books always need to look good)
I’m a zillenial (1994) and me and my gen z coworker had this system where we’d trade one shift every other week, we were on a 4 10’s schedule so she’d be working 5 10’s one week but then only 3 the next while I was vice versa…..so it evened out to the same amount of time off in a pay period but with one shift of time and a half every week. Management caught on eventually but it was sweet while it lasted. We’re not lazy we just know what matters and it ain’t corporate profits
@@frogalex8915it does suck when you’re on salary. My husband is and he gets worked to the bone. The only upside is he gets bonuses but only if his stores make a certain amount of profit.
@@frogalex8915 there are literally hundreds of jobs that charge by the hour. Examples in my area: Labourers (30+/hr), mechanics (50+/hr), and freelancers (75+/hr), paralegals (85+/hr), attorneys (175+/hr). I hope your work respects your time and dedication as much as my clients do mine. 🫡
I dont get this? Millennial here, work your 8, take your breaks, your lunch, and if I'm working over 8 its time and a half. Make your employer follow the law, its there for a reason. And if your working OT take your time. Lol
I don't leave early. I walk in late. I'm a night owl, so this generally works great for me. I don't mind working late, they think I'm working hard, and I don't need to wake up before the goddamn sun.
Lol I'll work any hours you give me but don't ask me to work later than I'm scheduled. It's a NO! I remember when I worked in retail they would give other people hours and expect me to drop everything when they called out. They figured out quick to put me on that schedule!😂😂
As a Gen z this is so true! This is also the reason why I was fired lol My boss couldn't believe that I was planning leaving work at the end of my shift
As someone on the cusp of Millennial and Gen Z - setting them personal and professional boundaries is a beautiful lesson that I get better at every day 😊
I'm a gen Z and I'll sometimes stay late. But that's more because I'm a night person who prefers to work later in the day. And I usually take my time back elsewhere by starting later the next day. A couple of times I worked super late for a deadline (like middle of the night) and just took whatever hours I worked off my Friday. I love the flexibility of WFH
Gen z, and I do the same thing!! I'll stay late most of the times Im asked or need to, but then I just won't walk into the office till very late the next morning.
@@bellama920 exactly! I don't mind the flexibility but they'll never get more than 40 hours out of me per week (unless they want to start paying me for those)
As a millennial I def don't just clock out and ghost my team at a corporate job like the gen z's however I just come up with valid excuses like I have an obligation or appointment.
As someone who has literally watched dozens of my family members work themselves into the grave... Sorry not sorry. My time is MY time. You are only paying me and contracting me for my assigned work hours, anything extra is up to me to accept or decline, without pressure, intimidation or consequence. If you have an issue with that, we can discuss an appropriate change to my contract and pay package to reflect the extra workload yoh are expecting of me
I think that with many of these generational and work commitment videos, we have to remember. 1. Many of our older family members worked for a single company their entire lives that took care of them, while we have companies that pretend to be our "family but will lay off half of the company at any moment. 2. Many of our older family members were only required to work 40 hours, meanwhile we millenials, gen z, etc, etc, are basically penalized if we don't work 80 hour work weeks and stay at work at 10pm an go to all the BS after work functions, and the worst part is there is many times no incentive to work more, because you aren't paid hourly but salaried. 3. Our parents and older generations were actually paid properly to account for the 40 hour work week and company that actually valued them. The younger generations realizes that there's no point working more than the 40 hours required, they aren't being paid more, and they know they are expendable regardless if they do a good job or not.
It's the Generational agenda that is why...many of the past Gens were programmed (raised) to be the way they are especially with that fear of "will I have enough for retirement?".
These are facts, the older Generation I want to say is slowly grasping what the next Gens are seeing. Gen X I know for a fact are seeing it. Back then, times were different and it worked out for the people of that time. It is just not the same now anymore Corrorporate America is literally screwing We The People on top of the "push" for an education and the "push" to start a family so our Parents see grandkids. It's The Master Agenda and we're seeing it unfold right under our noses...they want us to be $laves to the $y$tem.
I have a 30+ year age gap with both of my coworkers and is always them saying how they dont know why they always stay late even if we dont get overtime while im packing my stuff up ready to leave bc i said no and got a side eye from the sous chef
I'm an RN so it's fairly common for me to stay a little later than I'm scheduled. I'm thankful for the overtime but I'll be damned if they expect me to answer calls to help out on my days off.
Absolutely set those boundaries! We GenXers were taught to be loyal and it would pay off, we had grandparents who still received pensions, parent who stayed at the same company for nearly their entire life after university, union workers who made more than the salaried office workers….then we got fucked so hard by corporations who shat on our work ethic. There are the few examples of it working out (engineers, the early computer geniuses, etc.), but the rest of us burnt out and were treated poorly. Set boundaries, use all your sick time, even if you aren’t sick, use all pto…or the company might fuck you out of it. When the company says no persistently to vacation time, look for a new job and leave the old with ZERO notice.
My job is a little bit like this with our cash registers during closing. They bitch and say “you’re a closer so you’re meant to have those registers open if we have customers inside” like no excuse you my shift if over by 8pm and we just closed. If you want my ass to stay longer. Change my shift to end at 8:30 and have me come in 30 mins later than usual. Problem solved.
When i worked an office job they did "mandatory overtime" and everyone had to do 5+ hours of OT. So i just didnt clock out for lunch those weeks. ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻 SEE YA i aint staying late.
Its been proven over the last oh... idk... thousands of years... that you get what you put in. If you constantly do the bare minimum, you will be the bare minimum.... replaceable. If you are always the replaceable person, you will always be replaced as soon as you screw up or you piss someone off. If you do that a lot, you have a lot of jobs in your work history. Hve a lot of jobs in your work history, it shows you have some sort of problem. If the company you are applying for thinks you have some sort of problem, you will be the last picked. Then you will bitch and moan and play victim, when it was you that did it to yourself. So no, zoomers dont have the correct attitude. I have tried that before and instantly pissed off the boss. Instantly got put on shit duty... instantly got hours reduced because others were more productive... pressed into a position where i either quit or got fired. WHen i really needed the income. So no, you dont do that.
@@kibatsf wow that was profoundly stupid. Have you heard of the productivity pay gap? It’s a scholarly article, it says that despite humans constantly growing in productivity wages have remained stagnant. Also if you’re working a at a Starbucks drive thru, it doesn’t matter if you had a really busy hour, your wage doesn’t increase for being more productive. So no, the more you put in doesn’t equate to: the more you get.
@@kibatsf yes the last 1 thousand years, famously when slaves worked harder they were compensated better, you really just say shit you’ve heard your whole life, be more critical 😂😂
As a millenial, i started taking a Gen Z approach to that question very early in my working life. It's basically how i discovered i was not meant to work for others. 😂
I tend to get asked to do overtime fairly frequently and honestly I don’t mind too much because it’s paid, but what gets me is when it’s last minute. There’s been times I’ve already clocked out, got my coat on and about to go out the door, and I’m suddenly asked to stay for a few more hours. I’ve already mentally checked out of the shift, I’m excited to go home and relax 😭 I’m also one of the few handful who will actually do overtime which gets annoying in itself. Would be nice if everyone did their part 🤷♀️
I respect your willingness to do more with pay. However, those who put in their 8 hrs, and choose not to work more, are equally doing their part. I think it’s poor planning or foresight on the part of whoever thinks it’s okay to pull you back in after you’ve clocked out already.
I enjoy my job and sometimes choose to come early or stay late. But I always make sure that it is known that this is a gift, not an expectation. When I leave right on time I always loudly and happily say goodbye to everyone in the office. We can change the culture by showing that we are not ashamed of simply doing what is asked
So true, while there are definitely some lazy entitled brats in my generation, but we all know this idea of becoming a slave and working your way up a ladder just doesn’t exist anymore. The yearly 3% pay increase doesn’t match the increase in cost of living and the second a more senior position opens up, they bring in someone external rather than promote someone internal. It’s created a culture where you’d be foolish to do more than what’s stated on your job description. Just work a job for a few years then leverage the experience for a better job elsewhere for 20%+ more pay. And if boomers think their generation had it all figured out, why are they relying on pensions and retirement schemes funded by taxes? Shouldn’t their perfect system have earned them enough to last until they die to not be a burden on the current working class?
I love how accurate this is. The old f* doing NOTHING but telling us what to do, and the kids never doing anything “uncomfortable” while us GenXers keep everything running. Sounds right.
Gen Z and I know my limits. I won’t work doubles or give myself not enough sleep but I do pick up extra hours for the extra money (hourly pay). Best believe if I was salary I’d have more strict boundaries. Life is not about working but I do understand it’s an important part to be able to live comfortably. Hopefully future generations realize this too
Yeah, thats not gen Z, thats an issue with the foreman letting gen Z do that. Milking the clock is something everyones done on an hourly job, except... we used to get fired for it.
I am a gen x. I always open to staying late if needed. Hard work pays off. My boss notices me. She's very flexible with me, when i need days off, or when i need to work from home because i always work over. And i every year i receive a good raise. In fact, i just purchased a brand new home recently. We had a millennial who just wants to work 8 to 5, and refuse to do anything that is not "what's he's hired for"..he just got fired last year. My point being is... Hardwork pays off....
I leave on the dot, I’m also a millennial. My 65 year old coworker will arrive 6am to 7:30pm including Saturdays (our hours being 10-7 Mon-Fri) and be terrified of getting fired for not working hard enough. She also still cannot pay her bills and save for retirement.
I’m a millennial, and I’m glad that gen z is starting to realize that companies don’t give a shit about their time. It’s taking us too long as millennials to come to the same realization. I’m just sick of people putting down the younger generation for because I’m not lazy in the slightest, but there’s got to be a limit. And good on gen z for making one. Time is the most valuable thing, and the one thing we cannot get back.
I hope this happens in software development. People treat developers like work mules. I’ve had a few days working 9 am - 5pm and then LITERALLY 9 pm - 4 am the same day for production support. And still have to work the next day. I’m only 2 years in and if this keeps up I’m leaving the field. It’s so bad for your health. Maybe if I was making FAANG salary but even then idt people should be worked to their mental and physical limits. Other fields do that too like nursing which is even worse imo,
Well, to be fair, the younger generations saw their parents be overworked by corporate America and have decided to set boundaries.
Exactly. Even though I am not from USA I still witnessed the same thing from my parents and when I started working myself. The more you do, the more they expect from you and the more work they will give you. But they will not give you more money for overtime or more time off. And in the end it is you who is overworked and underpaid. Most companies take what they can as long as they can. And then they replace you with a blink of an eye for someone who is less capable and less experienced but who asks a bit less money than you did. And they see it as a win. So no, I am not working overtime for free, my time off is my personal time.
Except they're going to the other extreme end, doing the bare minimum amount of time, the least amount of work they can put in, and being the most disagreeable employees and coworkers.
@@judyperri9496not true. we just know that we don’t matter to corporations and even the hardest workers will be let to drown if it means the company gets a dollar. The 2008 financial crisis was huge for most of genz in north america.
Besides it’s not like the money i get from work goes far, might as well have fun and enjoy myself. because once i get home, it’s hard to be happy when i can’t afford to hit the same financial milestones boomers did. Homes are a million dollars unless they’re in the country or an area with poor infrastructure and social services. Meat is too expensive, there’s no where to hang out where you don’t have to spend a ton of money (third spaces).
I don’t owe a company anything because apparently they don’t even owe their workers the decency to pay a fair and livable wage
they noticed their parents get overworked and they could see that they where supposed to get overworked the same but for a fraction of the pay thx to inflation.
Boomers are shocked that younger gens dont work much anymore when it was boomers policies that made the dollar worthless.
@@emma_luce_0623Good for them. Companies don't give a fuck about them. Why should they give a fuck in the other direction.
"Nope nope I already gave you 8 hrs" fuck yea gen z stick it to the man
Or don't work for the man at all?
@@sbg1911turns out we need to participate in society isnt that a crazy concept
@@sbg1911 you are not the sharpest tool in the shed
not really. you don't *Have* to participate. my mental illnesses don't allow me to work, am on social security disability, claiming food stamps & section 8, and free phone service. why participate when I can just chill at home?@@noiz1762
Im gen z salary…. Im supposed to have a 40 hour week, but I work usually 70+. No OT either. And idgaf. Ive got nothin elese better to do. I could play some games- but I could also be working and learning new skills in the process, to get a higher paying job. All these stereotypes were also made in the nineties by Genx about boomers, and their forefathers. Boring af to me.
As a Gen Z, it’s perfectly fine to offer overtime with overtime pay. We all know we need the money. If you don’t wanna pay for my extra time, then you don’t really want me here.
Exactly!
I’ve had hourly rate and salaried jobs and I would only do overtime in the hourly jobs.
Salaried jobs, especially office jobs just _expect_ you to do overtime, with no monetary compensation.
Yep. The Gen Zs I work with work way more than me because we all get paid for doing overtime so they're happy to do it. I won't because I'm happy making enough to get by and enjoy my time off, but it's nice knowing that if they want extra out of me I'll get paid for it.
That’s what I’m saying. I was always happy to work over for time and a half. These other folks are either salary or fuckin lazy. I like money, so you won’t catch me bitching. I’m glad they make enough to not work overtime. No amount is ever enough for me.
Most of them will absolutely not offer you OT but still expect you to stay. that's why I'm the " NOPE NOPE NOPE" guy. I've seen people in the same company for years with crumbs for raises. Just give me my experience so I can move on and apply to a place that actually values me as an employee. Considering the boss in this clip said "growth opportunity," im assuming he meant work for free
Yep. My company gave me a 10% raise. I work 10% harder now.
As a Gen X I'm proud of our kids setting boundaries. Don't sell your soul to the man.
Idk why more gen x ppl don’t agree, like it only makes sense lmao
Seriously, we're still killing ourselves for the company. Hopefully the next generation can set the boundaries without losing pay.
@@raptor_guy2327right? A lot of those peoples arguement is also "Back in my day we worked pur ass off and were constantly tired and had no time for our family and friends, so you need to go through the same thing" Like, huhh???
@@vivi-ws9ylthis happens with so many subjects! My 45-year-old supervisor who's not even qualified to be a boomer for her age, had no empathy that our workplace implemented six month maternity leave because she never got that. She just bitches about it. It's so selfish.
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Thank you Gen Z. As a Millennial who watched plenty of hard working people NEVER see it pay off, I'm taking ALL the hours of my life for myself.
Yep
Girl they aren't special they're learning from sacrifices of older generations
Gets you zero. Even if you're a top performer, you can lose your job any day. No notice, they just hand you a box and have the security guard escort you off the property. Why would anyone be loyal to *that?*
@@QTpatootie95 I see you are part of the problem
Yep. At my last company, I was the one of a few millennials that signed off on time. Way too many would happily work extra hours. We all got laid off regardless of whether we put in a shit ton of extra time or not. Hope they learned something from all that.
Alternative title: how each generation sets boundaries at work
If I work late one day, I work less the next. I think that’s reasonable. My boss is gen x and is very encouraging of that mindset. I won’t work more than 40 hour weeks. Prior to me going on maternity leave, she was teaching me that if I have nothing to do, I can stop working early and don’t have to find trainings to fill my time 😂
@@BrookeDoesScienceAre you still getting paid if you leave early?
So all I have to do is put in an extra hour or two per week to look better than genz employees?
Yeah, celery doesn’t change based on hours worked
@@BrookeDoesScience I worked 50-60 hrs in my 20's for about 2 years and by the time I was 28 I got a triple promotion and a huge raise and mad respect. Hard work always pays off.
Honestly, I am German and we have a saying going "Feierabend ist Feierabend" and that is a Motto that our workers with 50+ years keep up and that is why I love those guys. I remember me working in this office job, 19 years of age, and I was about to take my Laptop with me to finish some stuff up. And this old engineer about 55 years old said: "You have worked 8 hours, leave that thing here. If it needs to be finished it can be done tomorrow, because free time is free time, go home and relax". And that is exactly what I am living by now. 😌🙌 So my working changed uttely, I give 100% at work and 0% out of work, it it needs to be done so bad, do it yourself or be patient and ask me tomorrow.
Yup. Germany has been teaching me so much about work boundaries. As an American in Germany I had to learn the hard way that closing time is really at least 15 minutes earlier than what the sign says because all the workers are walking out the door at closing time.😅
Wise words!
I need to move to Germany, for real.
Not every family, company or coworker is like that though 😬 we also have a lot of people who think working is the only real thing to do and you shouldn't set boundaries at all otherwise you could lose your job.
@@courtneyperry7659Wait. What do you do after closing time, if not leave? 😅
I've learned as a millennial that if you give an inch, they will take a mile. So, for me, for most situations, I'm off at my designated time.
the younger the generation the more the cat is out of the bag that working extra hard gives you nothing.
except money and a good reputation.
@@dastubeurt6316 it definetly does not give you either of those things, at all.
You can work 80 hours a week, you still go home poor, counting your money to check if you have enough for food tomorrow, you can work extra hard of course, but you'll reach the end of the month and realise that it wasn't worth it, at all, they increase your tax placement, social security payments increase and you're sacrificing your own personal time to do it only to reach the conclusion you got marginally more money, not enough to make a difference in your life at all except you are now overworked, more tired and your boss is abusing you.
As for reputation... no, they don't give a F*CK about if you are willing to work extra or not, what do you think will happen? huh? that your boss decides you have been a mucho good boy and give you a promotion? no... sorry to burst your delusional bubble, but what happens is your boss will keep you exactly where you are because that is where you make him money, you are nothing but a number wake the f*ck up, this is not the 1960's anymore, it's 2024, no one cares about reputation unless you are a celebrity, your boss doesn't give a shite about you, he is not your friend and if he is, then you are the guy everyone else at the office hates because he gets preferential treatment and is skipped to the top of the line for a promotion despite everyone else being much better at your job than you.
TL:DR- You are NOT getting rich or get recognition for working extra hard, that is a delusion
@@dastubeurt6316 If by money you mean increase in overall wealth, no it doesn't, at most it gives you some taxable pocket change and seriously? reputation? is this the 1940's? the only thing that bosses will do once they find out you work extra hours is keep you exactly where you are, passing you up for promotions because you make them money where you are, instead they will promote the guy next to you who doesn't work extra hours and is worse at the job because they don't make him enough money compared to you.
The sooner you realize that you will always, for the rest of your life, be at the bottom and that incompetence is rewarded far more than hard work the sooner you will be at peace with your fate.
You will never be rich, no one will ever give you recognition.
Also, while I'm bursting bubbles, Santa isn't real, thought you should know.
@@dastubeurt6316situational cause yes it can or in this scenario it would get you absolutely nothing
@@badboycookingthen you simply need to identify when and where it is worth working overtime. Oftentimes even staying a little bit longer to help the boss will give you a great reputation and the perks that come with it.
As a millennial, this was me in my 20s. Everyone around me was telling me how replaceable I was, so *I* needed the job but they didn't need me. Now in my 30s I legit laughed at one of my bosses when they asked me to stay and walked away last April. Still going strong at this job. They can say they don't need you all they want, but they lose more money firing you and spending months on the hire than they do not getting that overtime. And I've been unemployed before (for over a year) thanks to the pandemic; I'm not scared of that anymore.
Yeah, working in IT, i only stay late if it's a DIRE emergency (I work in healthcare), or it's my turn to run patch night. If I do stay late, I go it late or leave early the next day.
Oh man and as a millennial being shaded for calling out sick but being shamed coming to work with a fever and runny nose when you have SO much PTO.
Good for you! I am still working on mine!
@@katiekaye7481I got covid and had to cancel my birthday plans that were 6 months in the future because my job forced me to use my PTO during my 2 week quarantine :,)
Amen, in this job market losing a job is not frightening at all! Just go down the street and get a pay bump while your at it
As a millennial who used to act like the GenX here, I got so burnt out that now there is literally nothing in the world that will make me stay past 5.
As a Millennial that endured the same thing...same. My time is precious they can go fu*k themselves. I hit 10 years next month, my company got my effort these past years and now I work a crappy schedule and not even compensated enough for my time. I'm gone from my office 10 minutes before I need to punch out and decline anything that is last minute.
God bless Gen-Z!! They are handling it right! Being a slave to work is ridiculous. Boundaries are important.
Exactly! Gen Z for the WIN!
Makes me think of the lady that got sent an email at like 4:57 on Friday and her day ended at 5. She didn't respond, obviously, because a normal person is signed off 3 minutes before the end of their work week; and then at like 8:14 the next Monday got a "I emailed you 3 days ago" follow up when in reality, it had been sent essentially 17 "work minutes" before. And some people were siding with the idiot who thinks an email sent 3 minutes before the end of the work day requires a response. Sorry, but at 4:57 pm on Friday, if it can't wait until Monday morning, you call the person, ask very nicely and offer them overtime. Otherwise, it gets handled on the next business day. No exceptions. And I'm sure somebody will be all "you'll always be poor with an attitude like that." But I'm not poor and make six figures. Go back to your moms basement.
Oh lord, my mom had a boss like this. If my mom had something come up on her end outside of office hours, she didn't hear from her until the next work day...in the afternoon. But my mom goes to bed at six so she can be to work at six and her boss repeatedly would try to contact her outside of work hours as late as nine. I remember because she had sent out the text to my mom's work phone and when she didn't answer in five minutes, she called until it was picked up.
So if my mom tries to contact her boss over a staff shortage and that's not an emergency when you don't have enough people to cover your department, what short-of-a-natural-disaster are you calling her for? And no, it wasn’t COVID.
@@EcstaticTeaTimeif your mom is sleeping like 10h everyday then when does she do anything outside work hours.
@asadb1990 She has sleep problems but my dad works swings so she goes to bed that early also because more often than not, he will wake her up when he comes in to lay down at 2-3 in the morning. She will still go out from time to time and be up past 6pm but it's her MO during the work week.
Ha cause there different funny
Exactly.
"poor time management on your behalf does not make for an emergency on _my_ behalf."
Gen Z here and I have to say,, that’s very accurate. I don’t even give them the opportunity
no pay no play
And you're awesome for doing that! Somehow we can't do it...
@@wiljaxbrantley342 ? I do my job I just don’t let them take advantage and abuse me! It’s not like they would care if I just vanished and died. All they’d have to do is put up a hiring sign😂
Gen Z here. I'll stay late, but they won't see me till late the next morning. I'm a nightowl, but I'm sure as hell not working overtime.
Gen z is on to something here. If you open the door it's open.
Got advice from someone whose worked for 25 years who said showing excellence in the workplace just makes you the person to take on everyone's responsibilities.
If you're going to push yourself to work hard, it's better to do it on something you're building yourself
Gen X here and I can say we are this way to our own detriment🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️. Give and give and give to companies who wouldn't hesitate to let us go in a flash.
I’m Gen X and that’s exactly how I would have and have responded when asked to get something done at the end of the day. We have been so abused by corporate America. 😩
I'm with gen z on this one .
im millennial i stayed too
I’m gen z and I definitely have used the gen x reply on more than one occasion.
I think it's because we don't wanna do it the next time when we know we can "knock it out in 30" lol. They thing with gen x, we do the work so we can have time to slack off lol
@@tannersharp643im millenial but it rarely ever got to me staying late. When a boss approached me after 4p, i learned to ask in a slightly annoyed tone, do you want this done before i leave, and i always got the "no its fine for tomorrow before lunch". Most times it was a small task that would take maybe 30min to 1h but i would be damned if i stayed a min late. Im from canada and in winter, if i leave 5min late, im easily 40min late to home due to commute. After many years i keep looking towards working less than the weekly 40h if possible.
As a gen z kid, its just the fact weve learned hard work gets you nowhere in life or in a job, you can give you full 100% at all times and we will always be trated as if we are just kids, and when we bring up things and try to advocate for ourselves they say we have everyrhing "handed to us" even tho we work the same amount of hours as everyone else if not extra while were in school, and weve done it since we could work
If you learned hard work gets you nowhere in life, you've learned nothing.
@@Jecht1221no kidding. Way to give in to being beholden to an entry-level job forever.
You're correct... Im a millenial though so ill probably work anyway and be miserable. Need to get out of the rut somehow.
@@Hvantmiki we all do tho, thats the point shits gotta change if we want things to be better
@@Jecht1221Older generations assume the younger generations have the same situation, that we’re dealt the same hand of cards. We aren’t. Our hand is much worse. Most of us won’t ever be homeowners.
I'm a millennial who's recently been adopting gen Z approach to work and holy shit am I so much happier lol
Millennial here: I don’t negotiate with terrorists. If it’s not a P1 it can wait till tomorrow. Your problem is not my problem.
I love your comment! I'm a millennial who will be heading to the Corporate plantation soon, and I will definitely keep this in mind.😂😂😂
I'm a millennial and I keep a sticky note on my laptop with a course of action for things like these, including when to say no 😂 because I will immediately say yes otherwise.
Milenial here too. Thanjs for the idea with the sticky note
Boomers worked when working actually paid your bills lmao
My paychecks only barely paid my bills for a small studio apartment in 80's and 90's. Most of the time I couldn't afford a car. I also didn't have a color TV or cable.
As a Boomer I still don't have TV or cable. But I have a killer home and no mortgage after spending years working hard to pay for it while not acting like I was owed for merely existing.
@@MelywoodMedialol only had to look at your profile for around 8 seconds to understand you.
@@tylrkozelisky6252 I promise everything you assume is wrong.
You could afford an apartment and your bills with one job. Where most of America can’t afford an apartment on their own not to mention additional bills on a single job income or without roommates. That’s our point Mel. Whereas you could do all that in a job where apparently reading comprehension wasn’t a fuccing prerequisite as evidenced by your comments
@@alexanderhuezo958 yea but I couldn't have a car and a phone, let alone a computer. With a computer you have so many options available that I didn't. You literally have more computing power in your hand than NASA had when they went to the moon.
But I get it. It's easier to be a victim and blame than to actually work with what you have and succeed in life.
The difference between us is that I never felt entitled and didn't blame anyone but myself for my hardships. Ultimely that attitude lifts one higher.
You'll stay where you are due to your negative mindset. Good luck. 🤣
That GenX response is so accurate. Annoyed, but responsible, and will knock it out quick.
That's what you got? I got that from the millenial response.
No, Gen x are stupid. You’re not getting paid for it and it can wait until tomorrow.
i got likes to work for free from it
The millennial immediate denial into acceptance to then self-righteous compensation really felt personal.
i’m gen z and i can usually feel when im gonna be asked to do some over time so I always work a “prior commitment” into a conversation to make it seem like I have somewhere important to be at 5:30 or 6.
A wonderful technique! I use this too. Saying, " oh yeah, I'm planning on having dinner with my parents, they want me to help them with XYZ before they do ABC in a day or two. But I won't be able to be there to borrow because I'm already doing this tomorrow." Just, burning them in "I'm busy as heck, ask someone else."
Love this! 😀
Eight for eight. Eight hours' work for eight hours pay, no less, no more.
Yup as a millenial, I work 7-3:30, you want me to do more you A. Have to give me notice, I have a life outside my job duh, B. You will pay me or I will walk out periodt
Eught hours shouod be reduced to 6 hours ... we the people csn do it ... americans can do it please for tge better future of human..corporates csn afford hiring ..but we r givibg our lives off ... so full time shiuld be reduced to 6
“Will you be compensating me appropriately for working outside my normal hours? No? I’ll see you in the morning then.”
So accurate.... I'm a millennial but I'm on that gen Z shit. I was already logged off😂😂😂
I’m millennial and at first when he said “no absolutely not” I’m thinking 🤔 and then he says “then I’m signing off early tomorrow” I’m like ahh ok there it is 😅 that sounds familiar
Right because it only makes sense 💯 And if they say no then I'm already gone 😭
The flailing and bargaining is so spot on. 😂 Why are we so awkward? I would rather be like X or Z.
@@thirstbasketAw no, I love being smack bang in the middle. Like I’m agreeable but on my terms 😂
This is me and my work friend, both millennials, with one specific boomer colleague. She leaves work around noon to continue working from home, outsources everything to us that's not appealing to her and then gets angry when we won't come in early for occasional tasks because we already spend way more than eight hours per day at work. She seems to think that we're super lazy, and when we're sick she's like "cut back on your domestic duties but make sure you come to work". Like no ma'am, I'm not the one vacuuming my house while still on the clock.
I like the positivity of the Gen x representation .. he’s just like “well … life sucks, no point trying to fight it - I’ll get it done in 30 minutes” 😂
I really hope my kids fully understand that corporations are not worth your sanity or happiness. They would just as quickly see you die to cash in on an insurance payout and they would ask you to stay late “for the team”.
My babies can live with me between jobs until they find somewhere that values them and meets their standards. We have one life and I will happily spend the rest of mine working to make sure they get to actually enjoy theirs.
Absolutely. And as a Gen Z, I salute you ❤️ Thank you for having that kind and understanding mindset
“Millennials with their anxiety” big facts 😂
As a millennial that gets paid by the hour. I do not care about an extra hour that I’m getting paid for.
Edit: just to be clear. I already work 40 hours. It’ll be overtime or I’m not doing it. That’s the price they pay
That’s the difference. Getting paid hourly makes overtime worth it.
As a Millennial myself, I have no problem with OT if I'm already there. My company already got me to come in after clocking out and are constantly trying to get me to come in on my days off. It's a bunch of garbage.
First time ive seen support from generations about younger people setting boundaries and not wasting their lives for companies.
Warms my 50-80hr a weeks hear as a gen z who struggles to say no lol.
I'm a zillenial, I think? I stay late sometimes, but only because my company gives us a flexible work schedule. If we do more hours in one week, we can do fewer hours on another, or vice-versa. The total just has to match up at the end of the month, can't be too far over or under. (we have some public funding, meaning frequent audits, meaning the books always need to look good)
I’m a zillenial (1994) and me and my gen z coworker had this system where we’d trade one shift every other week, we were on a 4 10’s schedule so she’d be working 5 10’s one week but then only 3 the next while I was vice versa…..so it evened out to the same amount of time off in a pay period but with one shift of time and a half every week.
Management caught on eventually but it was sweet while it lasted. We’re not lazy we just know what matters and it ain’t corporate profits
that sounds very fair but uncommonly reasonable for a zillennial
Gen x: will take the overtime for the hour/kudos with the boss and get it done in 30.
Sounds right.
Yeah too bad the majority of these kinda jobs are salary and don’t get overtime. Sorry you work at McDonald’s and don’t know what salary is.
@@frogalex8915yes , because only McDonald’s pays by the hour……😂
@@frogalex8915it does suck when you’re on salary. My husband is and he gets worked to the bone. The only upside is he gets bonuses but only if his stores make a certain amount of profit.
@@frogalex8915 there are literally hundreds of jobs that charge by the hour. Examples in my area: Labourers (30+/hr), mechanics (50+/hr), and freelancers (75+/hr), paralegals (85+/hr), attorneys (175+/hr). I hope your work respects your time and dedication as much as my clients do mine. 🫡
@@frogalex8915what’s the point in being a straight up prick for absolutely no reason? Sounds like someone is miserable in their sad Salary life… 🤨😒
Haha, I'm totally Gen X! Your accuracy in capturing my exact reaction is SPOT ON!
As a millennial, absolutely not. If I'm off at 5, I'm at the door at 4:59 and yall can miss me or fire me. Act your wage, people.
As an overly anxious (ie: work giving me ulcers at present) Millennial... this is so accurately painful.
Not the Snuggie 😂😂😂 I feel personally attacked!
Corporations do not deserve your time, work your hours and that's all they can ask of you
“Last time I do this” me every single time 🤣🤣🤣☠️
I love and despise how accurate this is
I dont get this? Millennial here, work your 8, take your breaks, your lunch, and if I'm working over 8 its time and a half. Make your employer follow the law, its there for a reason. And if your working OT take your time. Lol
Salaries employees are not compensated for lunch nor overtime.
You've never heard of a job that doesn't pay overtime?
You must have only worked hourly rate jobs.
Laughs in Consultant.
"I will not be extending my work hours beyond the normal schedule. Toodaloo!"
Gen X is spot on, and I'm proud of it.
"I'll leave early tomorrow" is my mantra whenever i have to stay late, that only happens sometime unfortunately
I don't leave early. I walk in late. I'm a night owl, so this generally works great for me. I don't mind working late, they think I'm working hard, and I don't need to wake up before the goddamn sun.
@@bellama920 i wish both options worked for me lmao
"Gosh danmit" 😂 Also to the fact that he was about to cook dinner for himself, very responsible
Lol I'll work any hours you give me but don't ask me to work later than I'm scheduled. It's a NO! I remember when I worked in retail they would give other people hours and expect me to drop everything when they called out. They figured out quick to put me on that schedule!😂😂
“Millennials and their anxiety.” Fair enough. 😂
GenX here. This is accurate. 😂😂
I clocked in on time, so I'm clocking out on time (me, a gen z)
Best part of a union. Forcing the OT rate. It’s amazing how many things have wiggle room to be pushed back when you make it costly.
As a Gen z this is so true! This is also the reason why I was fired lol My boss couldn't believe that I was planning leaving work at the end of my shift
😂 Absolutely Not is my favorite as a Millennial, use it all the time 😂👍
Boomers: We run the corporation
Gen X: We're the generation that works hard
Millenials: I'm a pushover
Zoomers: IDGAF cya!
😂😂😂😂 no pushover here. I clock out at the end of work and I don't answer emails off the clock. They can shut up and pay me more if they want that.
@@TinaNewtonArt Yeah I feel like most millenials are somewhere between idgaf and "will negotiate", not so much full pushovers.
Right. So GenX does all the work while everyone else is busy whining
Pushovers where? 😂
We do extra work one day, then leave early the next
Contracted hours still intact 😉
No....😂
As someone on the cusp of Millennial and Gen Z - setting them personal and professional boundaries is a beautiful lesson that I get better at every day 😊
I'm a gen Z and I'll sometimes stay late. But that's more because I'm a night person who prefers to work later in the day. And I usually take my time back elsewhere by starting later the next day. A couple of times I worked super late for a deadline (like middle of the night) and just took whatever hours I worked off my Friday. I love the flexibility of WFH
Gen z, and I do the same thing!! I'll stay late most of the times Im asked or need to, but then I just won't walk into the office till very late the next morning.
@@bellama920 exactly! I don't mind the flexibility but they'll never get more than 40 hours out of me per week (unless they want to start paying me for those)
As a millennial I def don't just clock out and ghost my team at a corporate job like the gen z's however I just come up with valid excuses like I have an obligation or appointment.
As someone who has literally watched dozens of my family members work themselves into the grave... Sorry not sorry.
My time is MY time. You are only paying me and contracting me for my assigned work hours, anything extra is up to me to accept or decline, without pressure, intimidation or consequence. If you have an issue with that, we can discuss an appropriate change to my contract and pay package to reflect the extra workload yoh are expecting of me
As a millennial (and now an employer) I absolutely love GenZ’s boundary setting 😂
Millennial with their anxiety 😂😂😂 I FELT THAT!!
I think that with many of these generational and work commitment videos, we have to remember.
1. Many of our older family members worked for a single company their entire lives that took care of them, while we have companies that pretend to be our "family but will lay off half of the company at any moment.
2. Many of our older family members were only required to work 40 hours, meanwhile we millenials, gen z, etc, etc, are basically penalized if we don't work 80 hour work weeks and stay at work at 10pm an go to all the BS after work functions, and the worst part is there is many times no incentive to work more, because you aren't paid hourly but salaried.
3. Our parents and older generations were actually paid properly to account for the 40 hour work week and company that actually valued them.
The younger generations realizes that there's no point working more than the 40 hours required, they aren't being paid more, and they know they are expendable regardless if they do a good job or not.
It's the Generational agenda that is why...many of the past Gens were programmed (raised) to be the way they are especially with that fear of "will I have enough for retirement?".
These are facts, the older Generation I want to say is slowly grasping what the next Gens are seeing. Gen X I know for a fact are seeing it. Back then, times were different and it worked out for the people of that time. It is just not the same now anymore Corrorporate America is literally screwing We The People on top of the "push" for an education and the "push" to start a family so our Parents see grandkids. It's The Master Agenda and we're seeing it unfold right under our noses...they want us to be $laves to the $y$tem.
I’ll say “if I get paid overtime. Sure”
I have the work ethics of a Gen Z! I would be surprised if I even bothered to read the email!!! I'm taking a "mental health day" right now!!!!😂
We do be having anxiety though 😂😂😂 you got us there 🤣😭😂
From the stress of the job more than likely
I just love how Gen Zers set the new norms. As a millennial I’ve always stayed late and felt guilty saying no.
I have a 30+ year age gap with both of my coworkers and is always them saying how they dont know why they always stay late even if we dont get overtime while im packing my stuff up ready to leave bc i said no and got a side eye from the sous chef
I'm an RN so it's fairly common for me to stay a little later than I'm scheduled. I'm thankful for the overtime but I'll be damned if they expect me to answer calls to help out on my days off.
Absolutely set those boundaries! We GenXers were taught to be loyal and it would pay off, we had grandparents who still received pensions, parent who stayed at the same company for nearly their entire life after university, union workers who made more than the salaried office workers….then we got fucked so hard by corporations who shat on our work ethic. There are the few examples of it working out (engineers, the early computer geniuses, etc.), but the rest of us burnt out and were treated poorly.
Set boundaries, use all your sick time, even if you aren’t sick, use all pto…or the company might fuck you out of it. When the company says no persistently to vacation time, look for a new job and leave the old with ZERO notice.
Gen x really does love beanies 10/10
My job is a little bit like this with our cash registers during closing. They bitch and say “you’re a closer so you’re meant to have those registers open if we have customers inside” like no excuse you my shift if over by 8pm and we just closed. If you want my ass to stay longer. Change my shift to end at 8:30 and have me come in 30 mins later than usual. Problem solved.
When i worked an office job they did "mandatory overtime" and everyone had to do 5+ hours of OT. So i just didnt clock out for lunch those weeks. ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻 SEE YA i aint staying late.
GenX nailed it.
I'm almost 30 my first response "is it mandatory?" Lol
Zoomers have the correct attitude
Its been proven over the last oh... idk... thousands of years... that you get what you put in. If you constantly do the bare minimum, you will be the bare minimum.... replaceable. If you are always the replaceable person, you will always be replaced as soon as you screw up or you piss someone off. If you do that a lot, you have a lot of jobs in your work history. Hve a lot of jobs in your work history, it shows you have some sort of problem. If the company you are applying for thinks you have some sort of problem, you will be the last picked.
Then you will bitch and moan and play victim, when it was you that did it to yourself.
So no, zoomers dont have the correct attitude. I have tried that before and instantly pissed off the boss. Instantly got put on shit duty... instantly got hours reduced because others were more productive... pressed into a position where i either quit or got fired. WHen i really needed the income.
So no, you dont do that.
@@kibatsf wow that was profoundly stupid. Have you heard of the productivity pay gap? It’s a scholarly article, it says that despite humans constantly growing in productivity wages have remained stagnant. Also if you’re working a at a Starbucks drive thru, it doesn’t matter if you had a really busy hour, your wage doesn’t increase for being more productive. So no, the more you put in doesn’t equate to: the more you get.
@@Imahardhardworkereveryday id never promote the zoomer mentality. more work =more pay
@@dastubeurt6316 productivity pay gap look it up
@@kibatsf yes the last 1 thousand years, famously when slaves worked harder they were compensated better, you really just say shit you’ve heard your whole life, be more critical 😂😂
As a millenial, i started taking a Gen Z approach to that question very early in my working life. It's basically how i discovered i was not meant to work for others. 😂
Good job GenZ. You guys are changing the world. Proud of you.
GenX out here holding EVERYTHING down for y’all 😆💀
Drop it.
😂 no
I tend to get asked to do overtime fairly frequently and honestly I don’t mind too much because it’s paid, but what gets me is when it’s last minute. There’s been times I’ve already clocked out, got my coat on and about to go out the door, and I’m suddenly asked to stay for a few more hours. I’ve already mentally checked out of the shift, I’m excited to go home and relax 😭
I’m also one of the few handful who will actually do overtime which gets annoying in itself. Would be nice if everyone did their part 🤷♀️
I respect your willingness to do more with pay. However, those who put in their 8 hrs, and choose not to work more, are equally doing their part. I think it’s poor planning or foresight on the part of whoever thinks it’s okay to pull you back in after you’ve clocked out already.
Exactly Gen x is NOW the movers and shakers!!!👌
I enjoy my job and sometimes choose to come early or stay late. But I always make sure that it is known that this is a gift, not an expectation. When I leave right on time I always loudly and happily say goodbye to everyone in the office. We can change the culture by showing that we are not ashamed of simply doing what is asked
I’m a millennial and I would have left 😂 I’m only here for as long as I’m paid for
So true, while there are definitely some lazy entitled brats in my generation, but we all know this idea of becoming a slave and working your way up a ladder just doesn’t exist anymore.
The yearly 3% pay increase doesn’t match the increase in cost of living and the second a more senior position opens up, they bring in someone external rather than promote someone internal.
It’s created a culture where you’d be foolish to do more than what’s stated on your job description. Just work a job for a few years then leverage the experience for a better job elsewhere for 20%+ more pay.
And if boomers think their generation had it all figured out, why are they relying on pensions and retirement schemes funded by taxes? Shouldn’t their perfect system have earned them enough to last until they die to not be a burden on the current working class?
I love how accurate this is. The old f* doing NOTHING but telling us what to do, and the kids never doing anything “uncomfortable” while us GenXers keep everything running. Sounds right.
Gen Z and I know my limits. I won’t work doubles or give myself not enough sleep but I do pick up extra hours for the extra money (hourly pay). Best believe if I was salary I’d have more strict boundaries. Life is not about working but I do understand it’s an important part to be able to live comfortably. Hopefully future generations realize this too
in construction personally from what i have seen gen z is squeezing the hours...like they are leeching that shit...
Milking the clock? Show them how to do something
Yeah, thats not gen Z, thats an issue with the foreman letting gen Z do that. Milking the clock is something everyones done on an hourly job, except... we used to get fired for it.
@kibatsf nah they ain't clock watching at least here
I am a gen x. I always open to staying late if needed. Hard work pays off. My boss notices me. She's very flexible with me, when i need days off, or when i need to work from home because i always work over. And i every year i receive a good raise. In fact, i just purchased a brand new home recently. We had a millennial who just wants to work 8 to 5, and refuse to do anything that is not "what's he's hired for"..he just got fired last year. My point being is... Hardwork pays off....
So be shackled to your desk or lose your job and opportunity to be shackled to a desk while in debt. Wow, you really cracked the code. 💀
I leave on the dot, I’m also a millennial. My 65 year old coworker will arrive 6am to 7:30pm including Saturdays (our hours being 10-7 Mon-Fri) and be terrified of getting fired for not working hard enough. She also still cannot pay her bills and save for retirement.
I’m a millennial, and I’m glad that gen z is starting to realize that companies don’t give a shit about their time. It’s taking us too long as millennials to come to the same realization. I’m just sick of people putting down the younger generation for because I’m not lazy in the slightest, but there’s got to be a limit. And good on gen z for making one.
Time is the most valuable thing, and the one thing we cannot get back.
as a 2000 kid, "Will I be compensated for this overtime?" is just about the only way I'd ever respond to something like that
I hope this happens in software development. People treat developers like work mules. I’ve had a few days working 9 am - 5pm and then LITERALLY 9 pm - 4 am the same day for production support. And still have to work the next day. I’m only 2 years in and if this keeps up I’m leaving the field. It’s so bad for your health. Maybe if I was making FAANG salary but even then idt people should be worked to their mental and physical limits. Other fields do that too like nursing which is even worse imo,
If a workplace can't get their shit done within the agreed upon 40 hours of work time per week, management is doing something wrong 😂
I've watched this at minimum twenty times because the accuracy is beyond belief 🤣
"I'll knock it out in 30, I don't even need the full hour." ❤
Was born in 96’ and I can’t relate to any of this, but I only do labor, trades, some side stuff. Working at a computer sounds miserable.
I'm gen x and this is frighteningly accurate about me 😂
"I'll knock it out in 30, I don't even need an hour"
Famous last words