This is what happens when the operating system's initial set-up is asking you about targeted advertising, installs unwanted apps in "updates", reverts settings for services and registry, automatically runs unwanted background processes, transmits user data without notice..... I could go on. Some people require the OS to be time sensitive in the processing. It is impossible with Win 11 in its native state. Extraneous effort is required to get the system anywhere near ready.
MS can't make any money fixing those Win 11 but trying to force us to use a bad upgrade. I will use 10 until my PC cant be fixed or repaired and buy a used one that's working.
This sounds very strange. We are currently deploying Win 11 machines in our Enterprise. All new machines go out with Win 11. A few other IT friends are doing the same in their organizations so I'm not sure why it would be going down.
I wonder if new computer sales have dropped. Also, I wonder if an unsupported PC running Windows 11 correctly reports the OS. Are people installing Windows 10 in VM's on a Windows 11 host ready for end of support and the figures are reporting that? I wonder what percentage of this is rollback. People have tried Windows 11, preferred Windows 10, and have rolled back for now until they have to switch. Whatever the reason, even if the figures are wrong, Windows 11 is not having the adoption that Microsoft would like. I think that this is greatly to do with lots of people getting their computing needs fulfilled on mobile devices. I saw a thing the other day suggesting that Microsoft might kill Windows as an OS eventually and just have it as a compatibility layer running on another OS. Evidence for this was that a large proportion of Microsoft's income now was actually running on Linux anyway. An interesting theory.
I been in windows insiders since 2015, I never seen so many issues with an OS and Microsoft doesn't listen to their insiders what is the point than. Win 11 lose windows on Android than turn some users back to win10, the content menu sucks way too many clicks, requires end-users mess with the registry to fix their bugs that can break the UEFI. I experienced more UEFI crashes avg twice a months on win11 compare to win10 every fews years. I also noted that Microsoft removed legacy code for usb plug and play devices on win11 that might caused frozen up on win11 22h2 or newer still not fixed by Microsoft.
i'm not reinstall win11 before 2025 until Mircosoft done remove all legacy code meantime will be buggy. Is it a way to install insider build of a virtual machine atm?
it maybe just how Statcounter collects it's data. for example the was large dip in total windows machine around april-may 2023 and a large increase in unknown os. the seem to be linked somehow. Also, the total of unknown os on nov 23 was 3% but now is 6%. So I am thinking as new versions of os are release stat counter isn't recognizing them correctly and puts them in the wrong category.
Q: do these numbers look at companies as well or no? The reason I ask is my workplace had upgraded from Win 7 last year or so the pcs to Win 10 and just last month upgraded the tills running Win 7 POS to Win 10 POS. Would that have any uptick in the numbers or is this just non-business users like myself
You cannot not purchase a new pc with win 10 installed. Therefore many people are having win 10 installed on their new win 11 pc"s. I have stayed busy and done this on over 175 new pc"s since the summer so 2023.
Well, what if the numbers are just wrong. Or is it possible to have a windows 11 computer. And then download Windows 10 on that same machine and other words do Windows 11 product activate Windows 10? With the same keys? The other thing I am thinking is, we know that there’s not gonna be windows 12 for a while if at all so maybe with the newest windows 11, we will see something where that’ll help boost numbers. I’d be interested to look at the June numbers and the July numbers. Simply because, in July, I guess we start to see people getting ready for schools and stuff. Or maybe in June people are getting graduation presents computers so another boost in sales so I’d be interested in looking at those numbers to see if Windows 10 is to go down which it probably is down in my opinion, maybe just the numbers are wrong. So Microsoft has two options here. In my opinion, either allow windows 10 to be given for free to all users with this high demand of Windows, 10 or, if in the future there were to be at windows 12, allow everyone to be on Windows 12. Yeah, some of the requirements may not be able to be lowered like no more legacy PCs or something perhaps, but let everybody go up to windows 12. As a last ditch effort to try to get people off windows 10. If they can make Windows 12 good I can think of about 10 things they could do to boost that Windows 12 market share if it happens and lower windows 10. So if they did that, then I think they could save themselves. But then again this is Microsoft. And we know that sometimes They don’t seem to care about the public just boardroom decisions.
Of course wrong, in steam stats almost half of the systems 11 is already in. And everything often hinges on the identification of the browser user agent
Windows 11 is fine. It is stable and fast (for Windows). The problem with it is the interface. They have taken away options and ease of use compared to Windows 10. But how Windows 10 is gaining and 11 is declining doesn't make sense to me. How are these numbers determined? Maybe there is a problem with the way they determine these numbers?
This is what happens when the operating system's initial set-up is asking you about targeted advertising, installs unwanted apps in "updates", reverts settings for services and registry, automatically runs unwanted background processes, transmits user data without notice.....
I could go on. Some people require the OS to be time sensitive in the processing. It is impossible with Win 11 in its native state. Extraneous effort is required to get the system anywhere near ready.
That's great, let Microsoft go to hell with their 11th windovs
which means that after october 2025 they will be forces to extend windows 10 3 more years for free they have no choice!!!!
Basically Microsoft was a Bully (or in this case Extortive): "Pay Up or Diginity"
New updates in Windows 11 breaking VPN. No fix. Microsoft is focused too much on ads and AI instead of a functioning OS.
MS can't make any money fixing those Win 11 but trying to force us to use a bad upgrade. I will use 10 until my PC cant be fixed or repaired and buy a used one that's working.
This sounds very strange. We are currently deploying Win 11 machines in our Enterprise. All new machines go out with Win 11. A few other IT friends are doing the same in their organizations so I'm not sure why it would be going down.
Maybe Microsoft should have kept to Project Hudson Valley being Windows 12 instead of making it another version of Windows 11?
I wonder if new computer sales have dropped. Also, I wonder if an unsupported PC running Windows 11 correctly reports the OS. Are people installing Windows 10 in VM's on a Windows 11 host ready for end of support and the figures are reporting that?
I wonder what percentage of this is rollback. People have tried Windows 11, preferred Windows 10, and have rolled back for now until they have to switch.
Whatever the reason, even if the figures are wrong, Windows 11 is not having the adoption that Microsoft would like. I think that this is greatly to do with lots of people getting their computing needs fulfilled on mobile devices. I saw a thing the other day suggesting that Microsoft might kill Windows as an OS eventually and just have it as a compatibility layer running on another OS. Evidence for this was that a large proportion of Microsoft's income now was actually running on Linux anyway. An interesting theory.
I been in windows insiders since 2015, I never seen so many issues with an OS and Microsoft doesn't listen to their insiders what is the point than. Win 11 lose windows on Android than turn some users back to win10, the content menu sucks way too many clicks, requires end-users mess with the registry to fix their bugs that can break the UEFI. I experienced more UEFI crashes avg twice a months on win11 compare to win10 every fews years. I also noted that Microsoft removed legacy code for usb plug and play devices on win11 that might caused frozen up on win11 22h2 or newer still not fixed by Microsoft.
i'm not reinstall win11 before 2025 until Mircosoft done remove all legacy code meantime will be buggy. Is it a way to install insider build of a virtual machine atm?
it maybe just how Statcounter collects it's data. for example the was large dip in total windows machine around april-may 2023 and a large increase in unknown os. the seem to be linked somehow. Also, the total of unknown os on nov 23 was 3% but now is 6%. So I am thinking as new versions of os are release stat counter isn't recognizing them correctly and puts them in the wrong category.
Could it be because MS is totally out of touch with it's users? They are lucky they are a virtual monopoly or it would be curtains..
Q: do these numbers look at companies as well or no? The reason I ask is my workplace had upgraded from Win 7 last year or so the pcs to Win 10 and just last month upgraded the tills running Win 7 POS to Win 10 POS. Would that have any uptick in the numbers or is this just non-business users like myself
Microsoft have a plan. Windows 11 will be re-branded as Windows XP SE 2025.
If almost all sales are Windows 11, why is the percentage not growing rapidly?
Low new hardware sales might be a reason.
You cannot not purchase a new pc with win 10 installed. Therefore many people are having win 10 installed on their new win 11 pc"s. I have stayed busy and done this on over 175 new pc"s since the summer so 2023.
Well, what if the numbers are just wrong. Or is it possible to have a windows 11 computer. And then download Windows 10 on that same machine and other words do Windows 11 product activate Windows 10? With the same keys? The other thing I am thinking is, we know that there’s not gonna be windows 12 for a while if at all so maybe with the newest windows 11, we will see something where that’ll help boost numbers. I’d be interested to look at the June numbers and the July numbers. Simply because, in July, I guess we start to see people getting ready for schools and stuff. Or maybe in June people are getting graduation presents computers so another boost in sales so I’d be interested in looking at those numbers to see if Windows 10 is to go down which it probably is down in my opinion, maybe just the numbers are wrong. So Microsoft has two options here. In my opinion, either allow windows 10 to be given for free to all users with this high demand of Windows, 10 or, if in the future there were to be at windows 12, allow everyone to be on Windows 12. Yeah, some of the requirements may not be able to be lowered like no more legacy PCs or something perhaps, but let everybody go up to windows 12. As a last ditch effort to try to get people off windows 10. If they can make Windows 12 good I can think of about 10 things they could do to boost that Windows 12 market share if it happens and lower windows 10. So if they did that, then I think they could save themselves. But then again this is Microsoft. And we know that sometimes They don’t seem to care about the public just boardroom decisions.
Of course wrong, in steam stats almost half of the systems 11 is already in. And everything often hinges on the identification of the browser user agent
Windows 11 is fine. It is stable and fast (for Windows). The problem with it is the interface. They have taken away options and ease of use compared to Windows 10. But how Windows 10 is gaining and 11 is declining doesn't make sense to me.
How are these numbers determined? Maybe there is a problem with the way they determine these numbers?