In preparation for undergrounding, a National Grid crew de-energizes part of a distribution line to remove a primary conductor from a distribution pole.
Interesting! I think you would need to put a down guy each place it got dead ended as it might pull the pole over. I guess this was when porcelain pin insulators were still considered new.
Question, on the first pole, the primary was caught off in a set of blocks on the dead end side of the pole and was in a hand line on the side they were taking out. The line was de-energized but not grounded and it appears that the crew let the primary down to the ground. There should have been a crew on the adjacent pole, the truck was set up there, to let the wire down at the same time so no wire would go from the top of the pole to the ground. What the hell is the sense of wearing rubber gloves and sleeve in the air, when you allow the conductor to go to the ground on a hand line? This is for demonstration purposes, but the procedure had a huge flaw. I’ve only done Line work for 43 years, so what the hell do I know anyway......
@@StanleyNova well, if all conductors are treated as energized, why would they send an energized primary down on a hand line and have the ground men handle the wire?
@@edge1289 Ive only been doing linework for 9 months still labeled as a groundman on overhead. shouldn’t have they put grounds source side a span above them if they knew they were gonna sag it?
@@kgc57 As long as they have gloves and sleeves on, there is no need to ground the primary. Their mistake was that they let a wire down that was still in the primary area on one pole. There were trucks on the job that could have cut the wire down at the same time and no wire would have been on the ground and in the primary area at the same time.
Wait a minute Im just a lowly, almost a carpenter, i thought the wire was the conductor, and the insulator was the insulator? But thanks for the bucket ride anyway.
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All those groundhands in the buckets teaching themselves must be working the lineman to death on the ground….. God bless a dead single phase line. Don’t forget to use sunblock! #brotherskeeper
Why did you keep calling the insulator the conductor ?? Lol. And a closed cut out means it’s energized. He said “the hi side is on” meaning it’s hot from primary to fuse end. 🤦
Kinda defeats the purpose of de-energizing if you don’t ground…and then moving that cutout with the fuse still in and making up the high side first? Sketchy stuff…
My goodness load breaking a cut out with an 8ft hot stick.... my guy has obviously never broken a cut out with a load break before lmao I'll put as much footage between me and a cut out when loading breaking everytime. I've seen them break, go phase to phase, and you wonder why the devil himself came out and said hi.
I think this video is so everyone thinks they're the safest company out there. Aren't you supposed to ground the de energized line on each end of the area you're working, then you don't have to wear sleeves and gloves on a dead line? Ok, They did it in case a customer's generator backfed thru the line. oook. Isn't the point of rubber for live lines? Looks good for the company and looks like a pain in the ass for the guys who made the video.
I think it is just for safety. I agree that the wire should be grounded but it would have to be stripped first. Both sides should definitely be grounded but the lowered part shouldn’t have to be grounded on the way down imo.
@@elofos0815 your not wrong, unless they didn’t film it, but even if we don’t have it grounded we won’t gut it. But most the time we have a open air gap
Interesting! I think you would need to put a down guy each place it got dead ended as it might pull the pole over. I guess this was when porcelain pin insulators were still considered new.
For utility pukes that a full days work haha. 6 man crew smh
I cannot imagine how difficult it would be tying the wire to the insulator using a hot stick. Great job!
Question, on the first pole, the primary was caught off in a set of blocks on the dead end side of the pole and was in a hand line on the side they were taking out. The line was de-energized but not grounded and it appears that the crew let the primary down to the ground. There should have been a crew on the adjacent pole, the truck was set up there, to let the wire down at the same time so no wire would go from the top of the pole to the ground. What the hell is the sense of wearing rubber gloves and sleeve in the air, when you allow the conductor to go to the ground on a hand line? This is for demonstration purposes, but the procedure had a huge flaw. I’ve only done Line work for 43 years, so what the hell do I know anyway......
Edge Mo I would have either had a truck on other pole and had both set ups let her eat hahahahaha. Ground it out so no runner is needed.
@@StanleyNova well, if all conductors are treated as energized, why would they send an energized primary down on a hand line and have the ground men handle the wire?
@@edge1289 Ive only been doing linework for 9 months still labeled as a groundman on overhead. shouldn’t have they put grounds source side a span above them if they knew they were gonna sag it?
@@kgc57 As long as they have gloves and sleeves on, there is no need to ground the primary. Their mistake was that they let a wire down that was still in the primary area on one pole. There were trucks on the job that could have cut the wire down at the same time and no wire would have been on the ground and in the primary area at the same time.
It’s a videos. How do you know there aren’t grounds down line?
Wait a minute Im just a lowly, almost a carpenter, i thought the wire was the conductor, and the insulator was the insulator? But thanks for the bucket ride anyway.
You are correct.
Where I live, when they're working on denergised lines, they ground them, presumably to make absolutely sure that they cannot be energised by mistake.
Sylvia Else Hello
Love you that profession?
I'm not in the profession. I was just commenting on what I've observed.
They removed the fuse cutout so there’s no way the line can become Hot with that being out
@@macaymaddox6892 backfeed can energize the line, if it’s not grounded it isn’t dead.
Agreed. What happens to “if it’s not grounded, it’s not dead”? Maybe they did ground, but it wasn’t filmed.
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All those groundhands in the buckets teaching themselves must be working the lineman to death on the ground….. God bless a dead single phase line. Don’t forget to use sunblock! #brotherskeeper
Why did you keep calling the insulator the conductor ?? Lol. And a closed cut out means it’s energized. He said “the hi side is on” meaning it’s hot from primary to fuse end. 🤦
Kinda defeats the purpose of de-energizing if you don’t ground…and then moving that cutout with the fuse still in and making up the high side first? Sketchy stuff…
All that extra work to “be safe” without grounds and they still put themselves in series and made the switch up backwards.
Our company says “Rubber gloves shall not be used in lieu of personal grounds”
Need to come up to gouveneur NY for national grid and watch all the off road distribution work
I would have gladly taken the old and removed insulators!
If you need some, we got a whole yard of them, green and red to, yard been there since the 50s
Me too, even though the narrator called them "conductors" here.
They are doing the primary conductor removal in a section between poles 1275 & 1276 putting on a dead end.
Great video as always!
I took a bank of 167s down today. Not a bad day.
He gets in between it at 6:38...
My goodness load breaking a cut out with an 8ft hot stick.... my guy has obviously never broken a cut out with a load break before lmao I'll put as much footage between me and a cut out when loading breaking everytime. I've seen them break, go phase to phase, and you wonder why the devil himself came out and said hi.
So many angry people.
I worked for national grid on storm work......great guys. But as a subcontractor we did love...not reenergized
i own a small line construction co in NC the video are helpful
Thats scary if youre learning linework on youtube for your business.
Justin Mays non union rats gotta learn how to do linework from somewhere 🤷♂️
Liked the video but the narrator has called every single insulator a "conductor". They are literally the exact opposite
An hour northeast of Boston? Unless you drive VERY slowly, that's New Hampshire, not Massachusetts.
how old was the power line
Is that cool wearing rubber sleeves over gloves?
Keith Beal they’re cloth liners to keep hands warm in winter
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What the hell linemen dont kill the line to work it.
I think this video is so everyone thinks they're the safest company out there. Aren't you supposed to ground the de energized line on each end of the area you're working, then you don't have to wear sleeves and gloves on a dead line? Ok, They did it in case a customer's generator backfed thru the line. oook. Isn't the point of rubber for live lines? Looks good for the company and looks like a pain in the ass for the guys who made the video.
I think it is just for safety. I agree that the wire should be grounded but it would have to be stripped first. Both sides should definitely be grounded but the lowered part shouldn’t have to be grounded on the way down imo.
Putting up guts and blankets on a dead line😂😂😂
Bradley C. I love that this idiot calls the pole top pin a conductor. Fool. Guess it’s not dead if it’s not grounded
i never seen any grounding wire so this line can be energized by some stupid with his generator
Yeah they take the time to do all that and still put themselves in series putting on the taps.
@@elofos0815 your not wrong, unless they didn’t film it, but even if we don’t have it grounded we won’t gut it. But most the time we have a open air gap
good stuff.
Not really
I love all your videos i use to be a lineman the State of North Dakota mmm but im master electrician in texas
el hombre más buscado Hello, are you an lineman?
All those trucks and men on a simple job!!! Must have went on the books as costing a half million dollars!!
Hey bud next time feel free to come out and show us how it’s done. We’d love some help from a real lineman like u