arc welding with a filler rod is how I was taught/trained in high school metal shop class from 1977-1979....and its still how I do it today ! thanks for the DIY video !
@@elizalde805 no. 1/8 6010 is too hot. 1/16 6013 is best. Or 3/32. Even 3/32 6011. My favorite is 3/32 NI55 or NI99. Theyre cast iron repair rods. You can run down to 35 amps with a dull red arc and they work on thin metal
Nice result! I admire using what's available to do the job. Yes, MIG/TIG are more suitable but as you said, no holes and it isn't falling off anytime soon. Love the filler rod! I'm going to try that.
Cool. I'm about to swap mufflers out under the truck. I thought that second rod looked suspicious! Cools the puddle down, and fills in gap before you blow holes, I like it. Gonna try that one, thanks!
I think they call that Texas Tig welding using another rod as a heat sink works well.personally for me turn down the amps down a bit probably like 45 ,50 amps tilt it up a bit weld it up nice and quiet with 2.5 ,6013
I'm currently in a hs trade school class (Metal Fab), and we've recently began our welding part of the program. This is interesting to see the TIG technique on stick welding.
The filler rod is gonna be a rod with the flux removed (Hints filler) The rod your welding with has flux you don't use 2 flux coated rods OBVIOUSLY... Im a welder by trade own my own business.
The flux coding is meant to keep your weld safe, when you break the flux off you expose the weld to the atmosphere which can jeopardize your weld and make it weak, just an fyi!
I think part of what’s cooling the weld is dipping the relatively cold rod in it. I feel like if you wrap it in wire, you’ll constantly be adding heat to the wire. I’m still very new to welding through, so I don’t really know haha.
@@mackincheez8647 I went and bought a tig welder and gave up trying to stick weld thin material. Tig is so much easier than stick. Idk why it gets all hyped up like it’s some superhuman ability. I’ll use my stick for dirty welding but any type of fab I will tig
This is the way I weld sheet metal and this is better than using acetylene. Learn how to weld sheet metal like this and you can forget about MIG welding.
@@nateheusser8143 no,but he was referring to oxy/acetylene welding which is regarded by most as the best method. Then he brought up mig because its most common.
Answer#1. It is DC+ / Answer#2. I was adding the filler rod on to the puddle. /Answer#3. At that time i did not have 1/16th 6013 rods on hand. This was pretty much a hack job.....
When welding exhaust s and things like that is Tig and mig don't like rust or oil ,dirt etc even if you clean it back the steel can still be ingrained with crap that's where stick welding stands out above the other 2 it will produce good welds even with dirty steel that's why it's king out on work sites
Hi I'm just wondering so when I'm using my arc / stick welder if I want to use a second rod for filling in as you was doing can I just use another stick rod but just knock all the stuff off then just use it as a filling in rod thanks
hella late but hes using a certain filler because the two pieces hes welding together are of two different steel, so stick for mild, filler for the SS, genius.
Surely the weld would sag and restrict exhaust flow with too much heat filler just hides it??? I'm no exspert mind, Think il stick to Mig or learn tig. impressive welding skills tho
If you only have a stick welder I see how the filler wire would help cool things down so it doesn't burn through. I generally use my everlast mig welder on thin metal.
i do this when my very smart fitter makes a lovely gap that a normal weld just cant fill without burning thru its best when u remove the composite material from the rod
Please pardon my question as I'm just started to self learn how to weld. Do you add the filler rod to the molten puddle while following the live rod or do you directly touch the filler rod to the contact point of the welded surface and the live rod? Thanks!
I did it for under $300 including all safety equipment. Just a little DC Chicago electric 80 amp welder at harbor freight. Runs 3/32 rods max, but you can do most things with that.
I have inherited a mig and tig machine that also has a stick attachment. Was just wondering what's the best method new to all of this. Guess I'll go tig.
well... MIG would the easiest for thin metals while Tig is good for thin or thick metals that requires more presision and stick is usually good for thick metals. If you really want to learn more I recommend that you take a welding course.
out of curiosity if there is a small leak on exsaust pipe do you have to remove it to weld it and how long can you drive like that without messing up your car
depending on the circumstances, it is possible to reweld the exhaust while it's on the car and small exhaust leaks does not cause any major damages or drivability problems.
You can very well use 1/16th electrodes without any filler rods, you probably just want to weld stagger/intermittent your welds to a inch at a time to prevent blow through.
So I'm having a terrible time fusing a piece of pipe to a flange. Using 3/32 6011 and at the recommended 40 amps it blows a hole right through the pipe, even at 35 amps it was blowing holes in the pipe material. At 25 amps it was welding sort of, but now it looks like it's a bit too cold and the arc is extremely difficult to start and stay started. I'm nervous about turning the welder any higher than that because it was melting the pipe material. The pipe is 2.5" aluminized steel from O-reilly's and the flange is a standard 2 bolt flange from Meinecke. Any help would be appreciated.
Patrick Lee I use 6013 for that thin metal (you have to clean rust, grease, paint, etc. before). 6010 and 6011 were designed for root passes / high penetration. They work really well with thick metal.
sageofthesixstrings Use a 6013 1/16 rod @ 45 amps , penetrates the metal without out blowing holes @ moderate travel speed with good strength ! Just make sure the pipes are clean and rust free , clear the slag if you have to go over any spot to prevent porosity , be aware , these rods burn fast ! You will need about 20 for the diameter of pipe to flange connection you referred to ! Good luck !
What gauge was the exhaust? I tried 1/16" rod at 50 amps A/C with a Century 110-110 buzz box on 2mm 18 gauge exhaust pipe resulting in burn through or no arc. 1/16" rod burns like a Roman candle on meth.
What I meant to say is that I would of just used a rod without the filler wire because with a filler wire you usually have to use a oxyacetylene torch or a tig torch. It depend also on the thickness of the metal if it can withstand the heat.
yes but using a 1/16" 6013 rod at about 55-60 amps would have made a much cleaner more professional weld with less porosity and easier detection of leaks not to mention preventing slag encroachment double dipping in the puddle with the filler.
Duly noted sir. I have been a victim of make it happen with what you have on hand many a time. Informative alternative method. Kudos on that. Nice hand control double fisting the rods like that as well.
Joseph Chandler that's a weak rod, it would break but if you're gonna use it, a 6013 or 7014 at 70 amps on straight polarity would do not burn a holes through... and maybe just overlap it with a 7018 to strengthen the weld so your pipe doesnt fall out while you're driving lol cus 6013 and 7014 are weak welds...
+Stickwelding 247 Blah blah blah . . . "Mr. I cant even get an arc started and keep it going on my channel". (stickwelding247) stickwelding247's channel is trash. Check out chucke2009, weldfever, or weldingtipsandtricks if you actually want to learn something and not waste your time.
+97chevyblazeron31s Definitely agreed ! ! ! If you haven't checked out welding tipsandtricks and weldfever you should. Very informative and well put together videos, they are my second and third choice for welding entertainment and lessons.
could bolt on fittings be added for quick replacement or do cars have to have weld ons or bolted catalytic converters. thanks for your time. God bless.-pc For God so loved the world that he gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3 :16
I know this is extremely late, but I've had my pipe that is directly attached with my exhaust manifold rust right off. If you already have a welding machine and rods it's cheaper to do it that way most of the times. You can always use clamps and a type of thick thermal resistant tape or maybe a putty. I think it's called RVC tape but I could be wrong. Welds always get attacked by oxidation over long periods of time, especially where I live where lots of rain, and also salt covered streets in the winter just love to eat it up. But moral of the story is, go with the clamps if you dont have the welding equip.
Gets a dislike from me - no explanation at all of what you are doing! Nothing about anything!! Had to read a few comments to try and see what was happening.
arc welding with a filler rod is how I was taught/trained in high school metal shop class from 1977-1979....and its still how I do it today ! thanks for the DIY video !
Yes yes. I call this STIG welding and use the technique often. Nice work!
What type of rod do they use to weld a catalytic converter? I have 1/8 6010 will this work with this rod not trying to rent a Mig Welder at the moment
@CallMeBenBro it works best when rod used as filler Rod you scrape most of the flux off and lay in the gap then weld over it
@@elizalde805 no. 1/8 6010 is too hot. 1/16 6013 is best. Or 3/32. Even 3/32 6011. My favorite is 3/32 NI55 or NI99. Theyre cast iron repair rods. You can run down to 35 amps with a dull red arc and they work on thin metal
But honestly.. Just go buy exhaust clamps and crush it all together. 20$ 5 minutes and youre gas tight and done
Nice result! I admire using what's available to do the job. Yes, MIG/TIG are more suitable but as you said, no holes and it isn't falling off anytime soon.
Love the filler rod! I'm going to try that.
I've got to give stick welding with a filler rod a try with my Everlast welder. That is a very cool technique.
Amazing skill shown here, this guy really knows what he is doing superb job.
Not blown holes means achieving greatness.
Cool. I'm about to swap mufflers out under the truck. I thought that second rod looked suspicious! Cools the puddle down, and fills in gap before you blow holes, I like it. Gonna try that one, thanks!
Cool. That is the first time I've seen filler added when stick welding. I have to try this with my powerarc welder.
It is so called "STIG" welding or you can just call it what others say "poor man's TIG".
@@therandommech9099 I’ve also heard “Texas tig”
It would be beneficial if you had written or said what amps and rod type you were using.
I think they call that Texas Tig welding using another rod as a heat sink works well.personally for me turn down the amps down a bit probably like 45 ,50 amps tilt it up a bit weld it up nice and quiet with 2.5 ,6013
Stick weld an exhaust pipe is so cool , I am still practicing, gonna practice with your method
Stick welding with filler rod... NICE idea!!! I should try it one day! Thanks!
etseale my teacher recently taught me this trick he called it poor man's Tig 😂
I was wondering what the other rod was
Might be worth reading the description. ;-)
The Texas tig
@@itsyoursanyway50 its 5/16 rod. You should try it
I'm currently in a hs trade school class (Metal Fab), and we've recently began our welding part of the program. This is interesting to see the TIG technique on stick welding.
Yea but you never use a Flux electrode without the Flux because that's what protects your weld
The filler rod is gonna be a rod with the flux removed (Hints filler) The rod your welding with has flux you don't use 2 flux coated rods OBVIOUSLY... Im a welder by trade own my own business.
Ahhhhhh. Burnt my eyes, I joke but I seriously caught myself holding my hand up over part of my screen like I was standing next to you. Lol.
Wow I,could,learn,a,thing,or,2 by this guy well,done,man welds look,awesome
Gotta love that Texas Tig action!
I haven't welded in 30yrs.wrking on ex pipe.im going to try ur way w filler rod .thanks
Excellent idea using a filler rod
what i used as filler when i tried this is i just take off flux of one stick electrode.
The flux coding is meant to keep your weld safe, when you break the flux off you expose the weld to the atmosphere which can jeopardize your weld and make it weak, just an fyi!
did it work okay?
@@jcwar6753 indeed yeah, it worked great.
Now there's someone who knows how to stick weld !
This was the best idea for me love it. But hey I wonder do 312-16 3/32 stainless steel rods work too?
Really good technique.
Thanks for sharing!
Did you clean the slag off the previous weld before you started welding again?
I'll be damned. Makes me wonder, if you "Lay wire" some 308L around the joint, will it resist burning holes in the pipe?
I think part of what’s cooling the weld is dipping the relatively cold rod in it. I feel like if you wrap it in wire, you’ll constantly be adding heat to the wire. I’m still very new to welding through, so I don’t really know haha.
What rod did you use? I need to weld a flex section into exhaust
I'm gonna try using the skinny red 6010 rods bcus of the rust..
@@mackincheez8647 I went and bought a tig welder and gave up trying to stick weld thin material. Tig is so much easier than stick. Idk why it gets all hyped up like it’s some superhuman ability. I’ll use my stick for dirty welding but any type of fab I will tig
Yeah that's good I taught myself to do that too after a few holes I've got it down 👍
Where you have this grounded 😤
That double stick action tho!
Unic, I love it. What is the other stick of metal ?
What kind welding rod and what is that on your left hand do you use?
This is the way I weld sheet metal and this is better than using acetylene. Learn how to weld sheet metal like this and you can forget about MIG welding.
@@nateheusser8143 no,but he was referring to oxy/acetylene welding which is regarded by most as the best method. Then he brought up mig because its most common.
Great technique
Good welding thick strong .
Wtf? You used another stick on it for gap filter? I didn't even know that was possible! Tigging with Arc
All these people asking what you used, yet it says in the description 🤣
What are yours amps set at is it 6010 I’m trying to do something like this and all i have is a stick welder and some filler rod lol
awesome trick. Are you using DC+ to drag the puddle. Or are you pushing the puddle with the filler rod? Why not use 1/16th 6013?
Answer#1. It is DC+ / Answer#2. I was adding the filler rod on to the puddle. /Answer#3. At that time i did not have 1/16th 6013 rods on hand. This was pretty much a hack job.....
Would it be possible to perform the same exact job with 1/8 6010 5p rod
Running the rod with my classic 300MP Perkins
Also known as Texas tig
When welding exhaust s and things like that is Tig and mig don't like rust or oil ,dirt etc even if you clean it back the steel can still be ingrained with crap that's where stick welding stands out above the other 2 it will produce good welds even with dirty steel that's why it's king out on work sites
Very innovative way to weld...interesting...I like it.
Hi I'm just wondering so when I'm using my arc / stick welder if I want to use a second rod for filling in as you was doing can I just use another stick rod but just knock all the stuff off then just use it as a filling in rod thanks
hella late but hes using a certain filler because the two pieces hes welding together are of two different steel, so stick for mild, filler for the SS, genius.
Is a 1/8 6013 to weld exhaust pipe together and a cat on a good rod without blowing holes and what amps
Surely the weld would sag and restrict exhaust flow with too much heat filler just hides it??? I'm no exspert mind, Think il stick to Mig or learn tig. impressive welding skills tho
What size are those rods in mm? Im thinking of using a 1mm-1.2mm rod? Any advice?
No Setting info, no setup info?
If you only have a stick welder I see how the filler wire would help cool things down so it doesn't burn through. I generally use my everlast mig welder on thin metal.
i do this when my very smart fitter makes a lovely gap that a normal weld just cant fill without burning thru
its best when u remove the composite material from the rod
Please pardon my question as I'm just started to self learn how to weld. Do you add the filler rod to the molten puddle while following the live rod or do you directly touch the filler rod to the contact point of the welded surface and the live rod? Thanks!
P Pogi the filler is add to the molten puddle not the contact point
NAWASD NA It's almost similar to TIG but in a knock off way
Welding exhaust with a stick welder? I usually just use my everlast mig welder for sheet metal.
I don't know much about welding so please answer / Why are you using two (2) sticks. is it a must or can you weld with just one stick on the electrode
Because the bare rod acts as the secondary base metal to help prevent distortion. The electrode alone would cause distortion to the sheet walls.
How is this welding without blowing holes through the material. Are you using iron rods to melt in the process?
Yes, I was also using separate 6011 rod as a filler rod.
what was the diameter of the rods and the heat or current setting you are using. Seems interesting and must of taken a lot of practice..Thanks
All that info can be found at the video description
You did a nice job on that!
Is it expensive to get into stick welding?
I did it for under $300 including all safety equipment. Just a little DC Chicago electric 80 amp welder at harbor freight. Runs 3/32 rods max, but you can do most things with that.
Are you able to use stick weld method on the actual muffler being that it's pretty thin? And if not would tig or mig be better?
it's possible to use stick welding to weld the muffler but Mig and Tig is recommended.
I have inherited a mig and tig machine that also has a stick attachment. Was just wondering what's the best method new to all of this. Guess I'll go tig.
well... MIG would the easiest for thin metals while Tig is good for thin or thick metals that requires more presision and stick is usually good for thick metals. If you really want to learn more I recommend that you take a welding course.
We call this “Mexican tig welding”
Texas Tig, good job
Is the Filler rod the same thing as a Brazing Rod?
It's different
out of curiosity if there is a small leak on exsaust pipe do you have to remove it to weld it and how long can you drive like that without messing up your car
depending on the circumstances, it is possible to reweld the exhaust while it's on the car and small exhaust leaks does not cause any major damages or drivability problems.
thanks I'll look into that
What amperage would you recommend doing this at? I was thinking about 1/16th 6013 and 30-40 amps maybe?
You can very well use 1/16th electrodes without any filler rods, you probably just want to weld stagger/intermittent your welds to a inch at a time to prevent blow through.
where do you get this tool
It's just a regular stick welder.
So I'm having a terrible time fusing a piece of pipe to a flange. Using 3/32 6011 and at the recommended 40 amps it blows a hole right through the pipe, even at 35 amps it was blowing holes in the pipe material. At 25 amps it was welding sort of, but now it looks like it's a bit too cold and the arc is extremely difficult to start and stay started. I'm nervous about turning the welder any higher than that because it was melting the pipe material. The pipe is 2.5" aluminized steel from O-reilly's and the flange is a standard 2 bolt flange from Meinecke. Any help would be appreciated.
6011 is a high penetration electrode...
Jose Del Vecchio what would you recommend??
Patrick Lee I use 6013 for that thin metal (you have to clean rust, grease, paint, etc. before). 6010 and 6011 were designed for root passes / high penetration. They work really well with thick metal.
sageofthesixstrings
Use a 6013 1/16 rod @ 45 amps , penetrates the metal without out blowing holes @ moderate travel speed with good strength ! Just make sure the pipes are clean and rust free , clear the slag if you have to go over any spot to prevent porosity , be aware , these rods burn fast ! You will need about 20 for the diameter of pipe to flange connection you referred to ! Good luck !
That’s fucking bad ass I can’t wait to try this thanks for an awesome tip
I'll have to try this!
whats the second stick extra metal rod??
It's just a bare rod that you would use with oxy-fuel welding.
By the way I like your videos keep up the good work
No blow holes ??? Remove the slag and then let's see!!
stick welder same as an arc?
yes
What gauge was the exhaust? I tried 1/16" rod at 50 amps A/C with a Century 110-110 buzz box on 2mm 18 gauge exhaust pipe resulting in burn through or no arc. 1/16" rod burns like a Roman candle on meth.
Why are you using a filler rod on a stick weld? I didn't know that could be done. I would of just used a 7018 1/16 at 100 amps.
+Vicdiaz01 wouldn't that make a hole?
What I meant to say is that I would of just used a rod without the filler wire because with a filler wire you usually have to use a oxyacetylene torch or a tig torch. It depend also on the thickness of the metal if it can withstand the heat.
Vicdiaz01 oh ok, i got what you meant
Vicdiaz01 lol 100 amps on thin exhaust metal? good luck
100 amps would nuke it
Hey, you people with your negative comments saying things like "NO INFO ABOUT ANYTHING", ...... why don't you just "READ THE DESCRIPTION" ?
yes but using a 1/16" 6013 rod at about 55-60 amps would have made a much cleaner more professional weld with less porosity and easier detection of leaks not to mention preventing slag encroachment double dipping in the puddle with the filler.
true, but I did not have any smaller diameter rods on hand.
Duly noted sir. I have been a victim of make it happen with what you have on hand many a time. Informative alternative method. Kudos on that. Nice hand control double fisting the rods like that as well.
+Joseph Chandler i call that texas tigging lol
You gotta do what you gotta do. Not my first choice but it definitely beats dying from an exhaust leak info the cab lol
Joseph Chandler that's a weak rod, it would break but if you're gonna use it, a 6013 or 7014 at 70 amps on straight polarity would do not burn a holes through... and maybe just overlap it with a 7018 to strengthen the weld so your pipe doesnt fall out while you're driving lol
cus 6013 and 7014 are weak welds...
keeps the bubble gum away...
me personally would of used 6013 its a sheet metal rod good for exhaust pipe when the tig and mig processes is not available
Stickwelding 247 6013 would work i guess but the fast fill and fast freeze from 6011 helps me ensure that I would not blow holes through the metal.
NAWASD NA yes but look at my channel I have mastered all welding and cutting processes
+Stickwelding 247 Blah blah blah . . . "Mr. I cant even get an arc started and keep it going on my channel". (stickwelding247) stickwelding247's channel is trash. Check out chucke2009, weldfever, or weldingtipsandtricks if you actually want to learn something and not waste your time.
Larry Hensley I LOVE ChuckE2009's channel!! Been subbed to him sine day 1!! Best welding vid IMO!!
+97chevyblazeron31s Definitely agreed ! ! ! If you haven't checked out welding tipsandtricks and weldfever you should. Very informative and well put together videos, they are my second and third choice for welding entertainment and lessons.
wow, that's cool!
😮 😮 😮 👏
awesome
could bolt on fittings be added for quick replacement or do cars have to have weld ons or bolted catalytic converters. thanks for your time. God bless.-pc
For God so loved the world that he gave His one and only Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3 :16
I know this is extremely late, but I've had my pipe that is directly attached with my exhaust manifold rust right off. If you already have a welding machine and rods it's cheaper to do it that way most of the times. You can always use clamps and a type of thick thermal resistant tape or maybe a putty. I think it's called RVC tape but I could be wrong. Welds always get attacked by oxidation over long periods of time, especially where I live where lots of rain, and also salt covered streets in the winter just love to eat it up. But moral of the story is, go with the clamps if you dont have the welding equip.
If he/she would have used 6013 a slug rod would not have been needed.
Texas tig
Lol dawg..this works
hmm, blinded us and told us nothing of your method! :)
imagine being on shrouds watching this
Never do this without flux.
Title ''Exhause'' ? wtf ?
My eyes are bleeding😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You're not suppose to look at it 😂
fuckin gasssss at stick
#LikeABoss
Gets a dislike from me - no explanation at all of what you are doing! Nothing about anything!! Had to read a few comments to try and see what was happening.
No info what so ever. SUCKS !
this fella hasn't a clue...
He’s obviously a good tig welder if he has control like that without blowing holes.