@@richiedagger733 the music itself is catchy and well made but I personally find it off-taste with how it was applied. Like you said, to each their own
@@naturalcauses1695 Wasn't meant to be amazing or perfect, it's learning how to do something whilst just doing it. Turned out far better than most peoples shitjobs.
@Natural Causes agreed. Instead of modifying the car to fit his selected muffler, or simply grab a shorter muffler, he chooses TRASH straight pipes. At least he proves that one of the donut crew actually has technical ability though!
Should’ve mentioned that cleaning your parts with brake parts cleaner can be extremely dangerous. If your brake cleaner contains tetrachloroethylene, you can expose yourself to an extremely poisonous gas when welding. A lot of the “50 state” brake parts cleaner no longer contains this chemical, they use acetone instead. But always check, and it’s honestly safer to use acetone by itself.
one hundred and ten percent!!! acetone. and be careful with the acetone. some have oils and grease remnants emulsified when you buy it. apparently there is reagent grade acetone where this ingredient is controlled. but i can't find it. i start with acetone. then scrub again with a dry cloth. the danger them becomes lint... shop vac. then weld. tom eager from MIT has an amazing series on UA-cam for welding metallurgy, fusion welding etc .. but, the algorithm is unlikely to recommend it. he talks often of welding cleanliness even with low carbon steel.
It creates mustard gas right? I know when I was working in the mines I got told about a welder who cleaned up a bunch of oil with brake clean then welded in the area and ended up dying because of it
@@FleetTech97 phosgene i believe can be created. but chlorine gas by itself also happens and will cause immediate acid products straight on the lung walls. mustard gas has sulfer, where the yellow comes from, and sulfer occurs in steel so it is probably also a byproduct. keep chlorine away for so so many reasons. it corrodes stainless.... as you say: no bueno. word.
As a welder fabricator, I'd love to see a follow up on how the exhaust holds up over time, instead of back purging too you can use solar flux next time for when you don't want to use the extra argon, the welds become more brittle when you don't back purge too it's not just about the aesthetic and its tendency for rusting quicker, it's worth doing at least a backing plate or something, love what you guys are doing! Killing it for how fresh you guys are, keep at it :)
As a tig welder I appreciate you at least mentioning back purging being the right way to do it. Instead of buying plugs you can use tape or aluminum foil next time but either way good learning experience 👍
Agreed as a tig welder myself, aluminum so it’s a lot different, but I’d say more gas and weld kinda in segments like a inch worms body, you’ll get good dimes like that even without back purge 👍🏼
@@CandidKiller but the insides of the pipe will crystallise and will not have proper fusion with out purge on stainless and with heat and vibration the join is the weak point so it normally cracks (edit .. when welding stainless I'm talking aluminium there is no need to purge )
@@nickthelebo What is the actual purpose of the argon? I assume, because it is inert, that it basically blows away atmospheric gasses that would react with the molten fresh weld? Is that what the crystallization you mentioned is?
@@nickthelebo Did not know about the necessary back purge for stainless, glad you informed me. I’ve only been professionally welding for almost 3 years and started with mig then went to tig and do aluminum now at work and we do a little mild steel so nothing we do requires back purge
@@fatpad00 Argon in short is what you use to weld, it’s a gas, and it allows for the weld to lay cleanly, without argon it’s a bubbly mess and you’ll never get a weld down, we use 75% argon and 25% helium for aluminum at work but all metals can use 100% argon, don’t quote me, but like steel can’t have the helium, they make another mixture for that. Again don’t quote me I’ve only welded a few years
I like when someone is honest about if something might be difficult. Most people say "it's real easy" about everything when some things might not be. Your honesty helps
@@mikcute9510 cus if you cut it at 8°, how will you attach the two pipes to maintain that 8° bend? No matter how you'd attach it, it would either have no bend, or have a 16° bend. Or, you could just use the cut pipe and another piece of straight pipe, but that isn't an efficient use of materials.
The custom exhaust is awesome, and I'm envious of those welds, but can I just say that the Hi-Low bumpers on the shop wall in the background are the piece de resistance.
It wasn’t truly straight piped though. He just did a muffler delete. Straight pipes or straight piped is when you delete any and all mufflers and catalytic converters. So yea, technically he just did a muffler delete.
@@jaytm6719 eh. There aren't crossovers and it's an entirely fresh custom mid-pipe all the way to the back with no muffling devices and no unnecessary bends. I'd call it a straight pipe because of the better flow optimization vs your average muffler delete.
I made my first set of custom headers when I was 15. Was it perfect? No. Was I incredibly proud of it? Yes. It’s the experience that makes it worth it.
Any advice on it? Tryna make new headers for my bike because the old ones are close to 40 years old and have a couple rust holes. I have a MIG welder but I'm a shit welder and don't have much in the way of cutting the angles I need.
@@iseemanstas5193 honestly? I wouldn't mig weld them. It just won't look good and isn't the right tool for the job. See if you can get yourself a tig welder and a bottle of gas. If not, have you thought about college? I did a set of down pipes for my ZX6R when I was at college learning to to fabrication. It went into my portfolio for my qualification, I learnt something and I got something out of it. (This was 15 years ago though)
Donut's content quality has gone through the roof this last while. Every video makes me go "Wow, they put real effort into that." Be it the builds, the information, the camera angles, or the editing, every aspect of these videos are becoming better by the week.
I welded up a couple full-length 3" pipes, one for our CHUMP car and one for my E36 ti track car. There is really nothing like the sound of an uncorked BMW i6. I'll never forget the first time I ran it up. WOW I had no idea it could sound that cool. BUT it also made a HUGE difference over the stock exhaust of the M52b28 with S52 cams. Thanks for this one, it was fun to relive it a bit.
One tip for your welding, use 1/32 filler rod so you don't have to get it so hot and you will be amazed how much better it looks and how much easier it is to control!
I've been watching since tuerk was teaching us how to hoon our moms mini van and our dads pick up truck. the evolution and growth is absolutely amazing, by far my favorite channel. keep up the great work guys, can't wait to see where y'all take it from here.
@@C4_stephen I think it was both. A family thing and not seeing eye to eye. Look up the comments on the old science garage vids I think there's reddit threads too
Found Zach on a random UA-cam algo a few months ago when I had my interest piqued in working on my car...had already done Stage 1 on it but was hmming and haahing about going stage 2 doing all the work myself. This man inspired me to start thinking beyond the bare minimums of what I would need to make it more successful and reliable, and now I'm going to drop a turbo into the car after putting in all the little things to prep the car for that. Keep crushing it Zach and Donut Media! Loving your guys' content, especially Moneypit and HILow!
This is probably the best donut media episode I have seen! Love seeing the full process and actual in house creation. PS, I need straight pipes in my life!
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I have a 2012 F30 3 series & building my own exhaust is one of the best decisions I ever made. (N20 sitting at 380 wheel hp & 440 wheel tq mated to the ZF 8 speed. 4 seconds to 60 & 12 second 1/4 mile.)
First off, if that was your first time welding…amazing job! Second, check out stainless autogenous pulse tig, it has totally changed how I weld stainless exhaust. I understand this is a beater but it was my understanding that you shouldn’t stiff weld the exhaust to the chassis as the vibrations will cause some points of it to crack (hopefully not near the headers. The hanger needs bushings. Also, what a lovely head of hair.
the solid mount is often done in rally cars for the extra clearance it can provide. You also often see solid chassis mounted engine and trans mounts too. All sorts of vibration going on and often its not the exhaust that breaks.
The filler is helpful for extra strength I would think, autogenous welds are nice because you use only the material you're welding, but it can leave the material a bit weaker than a good filler bead with back purging. This is just my experience though so if I'm incorrect I apologize lol
It's counterintuitive but a steeper angle on your electrode's tip will give you a wider arc. An electrode ground flat will create an almost laser like arc.
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Very underrated comment. To a newer welder, they may not notice. But if you do the different grinds back to back, you can really see the difference. It’s why you want a large angle (60* point) for thin metal, vs a shallow angle (15* point) for thicker metals. The large angle allows you to have a more focused arc, where the heat affected zone isn’t trying to melt a larger area of the metal.
Drummer + Welder here (amateur on both sides): it does help! Hand-eye coordination comes in handy, as well as the ability to keep a steady rhythm while feeding the material into the arc. Often you do that to a constant beat to achieve an uniform weld.
Invest in an local exhaust extraction system for welding, especially when welding after using break cleaner with TCE (phosgene) or welding on stainless steel (hexavalent chromium).
I thought the rule was straight up don't weld anything with brake cleaner on it.......EVER. "once the gas is inhaled there is a little a doctor can do except give supportive care such as ventilation" that's enough to put me off going near the stuff personally!
I appreciate you guys being honest in this saying it took 4 full days. I get people coming to my fabrication shop saying they've seen on UA-cam that an exhaust can be made in 14 minutes etc. In terms of the welds on the pipes, back purging would tidy them up nicely as it makes the base material more stable. nice job though.
Great video as always. Side note, don't war gloves when operating a belt sander or other similar stationary equipment like a table saw. The gloves can get pulled in causing you to hurt your fingers or worse 🤌
I think the tips were phenomenal and the welding was amazing one tip for stainless steel is flux it’s specific for stainless, just makes the insides you said not to look at a bit cleaner without needing to backfill just a little flux on the inside and the outside just a friendly tip:)
Can confirm, diy exhaust can be decent with some trial and error. I had my 2008 honda fit straight piped from the cat for a while but recently put in a 2.5" inlet to 4" outlet 18" long muffler tip from evil energy on amazon and now my car has a nice deep tone.
Get gas cups for the welder! They'll make the welds much higher quality, and they'll look even better. Keep it up, went to school for it, I absolutely love tig welding
i love my damn car. idk why. ive had it for 10 years, on its 2nd motor, and still sitting on jack stands since 2020. you guys motivated me to get my exhaust system together this weekend. i have all the tubing and what not, just lazy. thank you donut
That’s so dope ! The car is coming along dope ! But I would love to see just more driving videos we watch the cars get built but not enough of it driving !
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I remember that back in the day, my exhaust on my old VW got rusted. So my friends recommended me a guy that does everything on his own... Decided to give it a go... And really, literally, the guy did it from 0 right before my eyes! He just had a bunch of steel pipes he was bending according to measures! As for mufflers (I believe that is how you call them), he just had a bunch of flat tin sheet. And he did the same; measured them up, cut them, bent them and welded as well as putting some isolator material or whatever inside! Then put it all together, welded it and installed... And it worked just fine! That was 6-7 years ago in a 1991 VW Polo! 2-3 years ago I sold the car. The dude who bought it is still driving it with the same exhaust! My current car is a 2004 Citroen C2 and it has chrome lined exhaust in very good condition, so I hope it will last a bit longer...
Some advice for the future. Take the entire length of tubing, measure to the first bend, cut your 4°, weld it back together, measure to the next spot and repeat. Then at each bend, you only Weld one seam rather then 3.
Thank fudge someone actually said this! This is how we do it at work. It's proabably 70% faster, your putting less heat heat into the material, your not making multiple cuts so there's less room for error. Also why have it on foot pedal why not just have an auto push button start on the torch? You're reducing variables which makes the job cleaner again.
I’ve welded for 12 years. Everything from pressure vessel stainless to aerospace stainless, Inconel, aluminum and titanium. .016” all the way up to 1” thickness. I’m a welding instructor at one of the oldest welding schools in the country. Give me a week in your shop and I’ll have all of you welding like champs. 😂 the welds are pretty good, all an exhaust does is move air anyway. 🤷🏻♂️😂 also, I like the mini pie cuts to bend the exhaust. Classy way to do the soft bends.
As a person that does custom exhaust using a pipe bender, this was definitely very very hard to do, and it looks amazing! Great job with cuts and welding, and the angles were super pristine!
I don't understand why they don't use a pipe bender. Of course, most home garages don't have one or even know a shop that has one. But isn't that the only efficient way to do it?
@@KC-lg8qf Well, mandrel bent is supposed to be better than crimp bent, or whatever it is called. And bigger tubes are supposed to be better as are more free flowing mufflers which tend to be noisier. By better, I mean a tiny percentage better at wide open throttle at 5000 plus rpm. OK, so it is 1978, I have a 72 Road Runner GTX 440 with true dual exhaust. Some turkey had his mom's 66 Coronet sedan. With a wheezy 318. He puts on glass packs, ladder bars, and bunch of free decals from the hot rod store. He is "compensating", as we would call it now. That is all loud mufflers are to me. "Compensating."
i used to weld this stuff for pharma and food, mostly programing robots to do it all for me, jobe did a fantastic job of explaining the process and picking it up! very impressive!!!
Not gona lie I looked up on Google to how to make rally car but no one has done one but now I found out u guys bin doing those so now u are first people on internet to show veido how to make rally car custom
Stainless tech tip...tac it, continue this way. Then make a controlled leak of argon inside the pipe... Stainless makes crystals. Then can break. So sealing one end with argon supply to then making a very small leak on the otherside will did the pipe, stop crystals. And maybe save your turbo if your fabbing the induction.... Behind the downpipe it's not as critical, but it's good practice
Good job getting used to the TIG. Learning how far you can choke up on it and the distance for you arc was the best part for me. And when you get a good rainbow pattern and it looks like you have laid down a row dimes you can’t help but smile.
I'm a drummer, I picked up tig welding faster than my classmates that had the same experience as me because of my coordination. However, tig welding is a much different movement. patterns however, like a verticle v pattern I picked up really fast due to my inherent rhythmic ability
Great stuff as always and excellent use of a welding marker. To the new welders out there take it from someone that had to learn the hard way, get some welding markers and always use them, they're worth every penny. Using Zach's 4° cut as an example, with that small of a change if you just "eyeball" it and don't weld the pieces back together at exactly 180° of rotation or if you're making a direct cut onto the item for the angle and instead of a coupler that you can position however you need to, you might find that the other end of your item is now an inch or two to the left or right of where it was supposed to be because of the slight deviation. At that point it's already too late and you'll end up either starting over or going down a rabbit hole trying to make it work. The "measure twice and cut once" philosophy is the same in welding, measure twice and weld once, you'll be glad you did.
Just one flaw in your conclusion. You say you save $600 from having to buy an exhaust but what you actually did was just a muffler delete and most shops will do that for only like $250 or maybe even less and that's cheaper then all the material that you bought.
@@pushhrodd01 It can depend on a lot things though. The amount of mufflers being deleted (my last and current car has 3 mufflers each), the amount of piping needed and if you are having new tips installed. Most shops charge $75-100 just for 1 hour of labor alone. Not to mention the quality of the work.
If you want to get better looking welds without back purging, which is not entirely required for a muffler delete, just back off the heat or pulse the pedal to control heat input and also lay the torch down almost flat to the pipe like 15° -30° range instead of the 60° that gives full penetration. This way u dont have so much effect on the inside of the tube where the weld is unshielded. This will keep contamination from spoiling both sides of the weld. Critics would be quick to dismiss this technique because there wont be full strength as fully a penetrated perfectly filled pack purged joint. I cant say to apply this to a turbo manifold, its probably not going to work out since those love to crack even when seasoned welders fab them up proper! Cheers to learning something new, enjoyed the video guys!
Oh man missed Zach and Money Pit! So happy to watch this, this is one of the coolest videos. Zach going full ECS on that exhaust sounds soooo good though!
@Superluminal: You are correct! "The sale and installation of an aftermarket exhaust system remains legal in California so long as it does not exceed a sound level of 95-decibels when tested under SAE J1492 and complies with all other exhaust and safety laws and regulations." In other words, the stock exhaust was already illegal and this aftermarket mod is unequivocally law breaking territory.
How loud is your skid plate? lol
Jeremiah sucks
Very loud😂
Depends on how low your car is.
My skid plate is really loud. It’s even better when I’m cruising at 70MPH. 👌
Jokes on you my harmonic just smacks the ground for me
never thought i’d get to see 20 minutes of Zach laying pipe, what a day!
I love how you worded that.
Underrated comment
😂😂😂😂😂
Mmm I'm unsure I want to see Zach lay pipe no matter how handsome he is ☺️
@@ainkpusing4263 what
Can we appreciate how much these guys work to film, work on the car, edit, brainstorm the next big idea, and do it all over again. Mad respect
Other then the fact he blatantly shows everyone at home how to make phosgene gas and kill them selves. Brake cleaner and welding = huge no no
@@t2iskyler not everyone is a smartAzzz
@@ArtuMormar smartass? Wouldnt you prefer them to show otherwise so the idiots of the internet DONT do it? I would say so
Thats why rhey habe 5 millions subs
Yes we can *bob the builder voice*
I STRONGLY encourage you guys to come to Vegas for a TIG welding class. I'll totally hook you up 👍
This is a sick invite Zach! You guys should take him up on the offer
Yea I love his videos too, his channel is what got me interested in learning to fabricate my own stuff. Cant weld yet though 😐
Hope they do get in touch coz I'm sick of seeing below average welds being passed as decent 🤦♂️
@@miraclemansgarage5647 show ur your welds
Sir do you really have time to watch UA-cam videos
I love watching Garage Jesus. This guy is so relaxing to watch.
That should be his official host name XD
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Garage Jesus 😂😂👌🏼
Our father. Who art in the garage, upgrades be thy name. Thy parts shall come. Thy will be done, on the street as it is off road
@@sleazymeezy reads like some shit from mad max lmao
Whoever picked the music for this episode, you deserve a raise.
It was pretty vibey
Donut is always on point with their music
I disagree strongly.... but to each their own
@@richiedagger733 the music itself is catchy and well made but I personally find it off-taste with how it was applied. Like you said, to each their own
i flet it's the same from previous episodes, what do you mean?
This episode as a whole might be one of Donut’s best ones shot. Editing, Music, Zach, Topic, the whole thing. 10/10
No muffler sucks, couldve planned it better
@@naturalcauses1695 stay mad
@@naturalcauses1695 Wasn't meant to be amazing or perfect, it's learning how to do something whilst just doing it. Turned out far better than most peoples shitjobs.
@Natural Causes agreed. Instead of modifying the car to fit his selected muffler, or simply grab a shorter muffler, he chooses TRASH straight pipes.
At least he proves that one of the donut crew actually has technical ability though!
I’m not even familiar with the series but this was definitely an awesome video!
Its cool when you can actually say to yourself "wow i can do that", being a welder and not a mechanic personally
Have you ever tried to become one?
Well, you could become an exhaust builder
Honestly dude it's totally doable for anyone really. Can't learn until you try though!
Should’ve mentioned that cleaning your parts with brake parts cleaner can be extremely dangerous. If your brake cleaner contains tetrachloroethylene, you can expose yourself to an extremely poisonous gas when welding.
A lot of the “50 state” brake parts cleaner no longer contains this chemical, they use acetone instead. But always check, and it’s honestly safer to use acetone by itself.
one hundred and ten percent!!! acetone. and be careful with the acetone. some have oils and grease remnants emulsified when you buy it. apparently there is reagent grade acetone where this ingredient is controlled. but i can't find it. i start with acetone. then scrub again with a dry cloth. the danger them becomes lint... shop vac. then weld.
tom eager from MIT has an amazing series on UA-cam for welding metallurgy, fusion welding etc .. but, the algorithm is unlikely to recommend it. he talks often of welding cleanliness even with low carbon steel.
I was literally just about to say the same thing when I saw him using brake cleaner. No bueno
It creates mustard gas right? I know when I was working in the mines I got told about a welder who cleaned up a bunch of oil with brake clean then welded in the area and ended up dying because of it
@@FleetTech97 phosgene i believe can be created. but chlorine gas by itself also happens and will cause immediate acid products straight on the lung walls.
mustard gas has sulfer, where the yellow comes from, and sulfer occurs in steel so it is probably also a byproduct.
keep chlorine away for so so many reasons.
it corrodes stainless.... as you say: no bueno. word.
You want non chlorinated brake cleaner. It's all I buy to avoid that very dangerous situation.
As a welder fabricator, I'd love to see a follow up on how the exhaust holds up over time, instead of back purging too you can use solar flux next time for when you don't want to use the extra argon, the welds become more brittle when you don't back purge too it's not just about the aesthetic and its tendency for rusting quicker, it's worth doing at least a backing plate or something, love what you guys are doing! Killing it for how fresh you guys are, keep at it :)
Be careful using brake clean, chlorinated produces a deadly gas when welding. I use acetone personally 👍🏼
isn't brake cleaner just ethanol?
Thank you I’m barely getting into welding
I was wondering about this, can you use non- chlorinated brake cleaner? I was always thought never use brake cleaner on areas your about to weld on.
@@marcoconci7867 Depends on the brand
I've heard stay away from all brake cleans to be safe
i know its unlikely, but i'd love to see this participate in an actual rally event
Use those fluffy toaster powers to help reach that goal.
Eat enough RAM and simulate the vehicle dynamics to help Zach navigate.
@@remingtonspeed7481 idk man, my super fluffy toaster powers were seriously affected when my mum dropped me on my head several times as a child
do you remember one of the hi and low cars broke down completly
I feel like Zach is the embodiment of the saying, “Where there’s a will, there’s a way.” Keeps me motivated
As a tig welder I appreciate you at least mentioning back purging being the right way to do it. Instead of buying plugs you can use tape or aluminum foil next time but either way good learning experience 👍
Agreed as a tig welder myself, aluminum so it’s a lot different, but I’d say more gas and weld kinda in segments like a inch worms body, you’ll get good dimes like that even without back purge 👍🏼
@@CandidKiller but the insides of the pipe will crystallise and will not have proper fusion with out purge on stainless and with heat and vibration the join is the weak point so it normally cracks (edit .. when welding stainless I'm talking aluminium there is no need to purge )
@@nickthelebo What is the actual purpose of the argon? I assume, because it is inert, that it basically blows away atmospheric gasses that would react with the molten fresh weld? Is that what the crystallization you mentioned is?
@@nickthelebo Did not know about the necessary back purge for stainless, glad you informed me. I’ve only been professionally welding for almost 3 years and started with mig then went to tig and do aluminum now at work and we do a little mild steel so nothing we do requires back purge
@@fatpad00 Argon in short is what you use to weld, it’s a gas, and it allows for the weld to lay cleanly, without argon it’s a bubbly mess and you’ll never get a weld down, we use 75% argon and 25% helium for aluminum at work but all metals can use 100% argon, don’t quote me, but like steel can’t have the helium, they make another mixture for that. Again don’t quote me I’ve only welded a few years
Man that skid plate looks an awful lot like a brand new exhaust
Yep. I said the same thing too
Well, now we know what will be the next money pit episode
LOL I WAS ABOUT TO SAY I THOUGHT I WAS TRIPPIN
I was about to say the same
sKiDpLaTe LeAk
I like when someone is honest about if something might be difficult. Most people say "it's real easy" about everything when some things might not be. Your honesty helps
That 8° bend trick is golden. Thank you Zach!
I kinda don’t get why? Why not just cut 8 degrees?
@@mikcute9510 cus if you cut it at 8°, how will you attach the two pipes to maintain that 8° bend? No matter how you'd attach it, it would either have no bend, or have a 16° bend.
Or, you could just use the cut pipe and another piece of straight pipe, but that isn't an efficient use of materials.
@@DezziDuck ahh i see, thank youuu
Go much more than that 8 degrees, and you should really use a mandrel bend and weld that in.
Give her the ol' 8"&8°.
The custom exhaust is awesome, and I'm envious of those welds, but can I just say that the Hi-Low bumpers on the shop wall in the background are the piece de resistance.
I saw those and thought to myself is that the 350z numbers but wasn't sure lol I wonder what they did with those cars?
@@quadzilla7572 the cars are sitting at the Peterson Automotive Museum in the Vault.
"So we're just gonna go with straight pipes"
Everyone liked that
It wasn’t truly straight piped though. He just did a muffler delete. Straight pipes or straight piped is when you delete any and all mufflers and catalytic converters. So yea, technically he just did a muffler delete.
@@jaytm6719 eh. There aren't crossovers and it's an entirely fresh custom mid-pipe all the way to the back with no muffling devices and no unnecessary bends. I'd call it a straight pipe because of the better flow optimization vs your average muffler delete.
I made my first set of custom headers when I was 15. Was it perfect? No. Was I incredibly proud of it? Yes. It’s the experience that makes it worth it.
DAMN STRAIGHT.
Any advice on it? Tryna make new headers for my bike because the old ones are close to 40 years old and have a couple rust holes. I have a MIG welder but I'm a shit welder and don't have much in the way of cutting the angles I need.
@@iseemanstas5193 honestly? I wouldn't mig weld them. It just won't look good and isn't the right tool for the job.
See if you can get yourself a tig welder and a bottle of gas.
If not, have you thought about college? I did a set of down pipes for my ZX6R when I was at college learning to to fabrication. It went into my portfolio for my qualification, I learnt something and I got something out of it.
(This was 15 years ago though)
Best sounding skid plate I’ve heard in a while!
Cat fella wassup
@Just Dope nolan
Donut's content quality has gone through the roof this last while. Every video makes me go "Wow, they put real effort into that." Be it the builds, the information, the camera angles, or the editing, every aspect of these videos are becoming better by the week.
Also their Instagram admin deserves a shoutout 😂
It’s been fun watching Zach’s hair grow every episode
He should keep a mustache and cut his hair into a mullet!
@@macky4611 mullet equals hick hub haircut LOL
@@macky4611 I agree
He looks like white Jesus
Yes worth it. A skid plate isn't something that's very complicated to engineer, it's just thick sheet metal under a car.
Lmao same here
Didn't watch did ya?
Shits an exhaust video
@@mcdamn_it didn't watch the video one millisecond after it came out did ya.
It was called a skidplate video
@@notfunny3397 yes was confused for a second
@@mcdamn_it the title was obviously a mistake
I love how this channel has certain people for different type of vídeos , everyone gets a part
Who knew a skid plate could sounds that great...
@Just Dope shitty SPAM
lol
Holy heck. The link spam in this thread is out of control.
@@kip258 report them all
Report those bots
Wow that was really impressive welding
Do you watch every single video
@@86mustang he's lonely.
too much heat, low travel speeds, thats why its grey
@@skiptastic1000 and too little argon
I see you everywhere!
I welded up a couple full-length 3" pipes, one for our CHUMP car and one for my E36 ti track car. There is really nothing like the sound of an uncorked BMW i6. I'll never forget the first time I ran it up. WOW I had no idea it could sound that cool. BUT it also made a HUGE difference over the stock exhaust of the M52b28 with S52 cams. Thanks for this one, it was fun to relive it a bit.
I love how quick Zach decided not to install the muffler. One look at the space "ahh nah it ain't gonna fit"...and throws out the $150 part
One tip for your welding, use 1/32 filler rod so you don't have to get it so hot and you will be amazed how much better it looks and how much easier it is to control!
I've been watching since tuerk was teaching us how to hoon our moms mini van and our dads pick up truck. the evolution and growth is absolutely amazing, by far my favorite channel. keep up the great work guys, can't wait to see where y'all take it from here.
Should still bring back bart
@@joshpiotrowski3487 It's not like they kicked him out, he left to care for his family I think 🤔
@@C4_stephen I think it was both. A family thing and not seeing eye to eye. Look up the comments on the old science garage vids
I think there's reddit threads too
Doing your own exhaust is always worth it I did my own true duals into 2 single chambers myself definitely best thing you can do
Found Zach on a random UA-cam algo a few months ago when I had my interest piqued in working on my car...had already done Stage 1 on it but was hmming and haahing about going stage 2 doing all the work myself. This man inspired me to start thinking beyond the bare minimums of what I would need to make it more successful and reliable, and now I'm going to drop a turbo into the car after putting in all the little things to prep the car for that. Keep crushing it Zach and Donut Media! Loving your guys' content, especially Moneypit and HILow!
You should do this for a cold air intake, that would compliment the exhaust perfectly!
The whole "Get your Beans at Beans Beans" thing kills me everytime
Did they have to change the original song? It used to be the whole “Yota Taco” phrase, now it’s just beans😂
@@AsdfAsdf-td7ju where did the original come from? Post a link if you can!
This is probably the best donut media episode I have seen! Love seeing the full process and actual in house creation.
PS, I need straight pipes in my life!
Remember the words of AvE: "A grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't"!
That's at least 100 years older that AvE.. lol
THE SEXY GIRLS ARE BIGTITITS.UNO
THREE IN ONE
UA-cam: THIS IS FINE.
SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
UA-cam: BE GONE
Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
#Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
We want to be welders! Not grinders!
Think his is bigger the gawb better the jawb
@@pbgd3 yep, that's his too. Make sure to tappy tap tap it with a thumb detecting nut fucker!
"Shut the hell up! Trying to weld over here!"
Well, it's obvious we need a t-shirt with that
Or at least a sticker for our own helmets
I agree
I have a 2012 F30 3 series & building my own exhaust is one of the best decisions I ever made.
(N20 sitting at 380 wheel hp & 440 wheel tq mated to the ZF 8 speed. 4 seconds to 60 & 12 second 1/4 mile.)
Definitely my favorite video of money pit so far! Also don't knock these welds! They didn't look terrible at all!
First off, if that was your first time welding…amazing job! Second, check out stainless autogenous pulse tig, it has totally changed how I weld stainless exhaust. I understand this is a beater but it was my understanding that you shouldn’t stiff weld the exhaust to the chassis as the vibrations will cause some points of it to crack (hopefully not near the headers. The hanger needs bushings. Also, what a lovely head of hair.
the solid mount is often done in rally cars for the extra clearance it can provide. You also often see solid chassis mounted engine and trans mounts too. All sorts of vibration going on and often its not the exhaust that breaks.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 thank you for the imparted knowledge 🙏
The filler is helpful for extra strength I would think, autogenous welds are nice because you use only the material you're welding, but it can leave the material a bit weaker than a good filler bead with back purging. This is just my experience though so if I'm incorrect I apologize lol
@@JackoJakl I understand, my applications are for small pipes motorcycle exhaust. The radius is quite small so using filler is quite difficult.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 4 days from start to finish?!?! Welding process was dope! And definitely improved from the stock exhaust 10/10
When you got rid of the muffler, my joy was so strong!!!
Shout out to the editor, the background music was fire and completed the video well
pro tip on welding.. get closer with the electrode (
It's counterintuitive but a steeper angle on your electrode's tip will give you a wider arc. An electrode ground flat will create an almost laser like arc.
THE SEXY GIRLS ARE BIGTITITS.UNO
THREE IN ONE
UA-cam: THIS IS FINE.
SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
UA-cam: BE GONE
Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
#Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
Very underrated comment. To a newer welder, they may not notice. But if you do the different grinds back to back, you can really see the difference. It’s why you want a large angle (60* point) for thin metal, vs a shallow angle (15* point) for thicker metals. The large angle allows you to have a more focused arc, where the heat affected zone isn’t trying to melt a larger area of the metal.
We bought this Borla exhaust, these tips ... and threw them away! Nice work on the straight pipes. That is gonna sound so good on course
Drummer + Welder here (amateur on both sides): it does help! Hand-eye coordination comes in handy, as well as the ability to keep a steady rhythm while feeding the material into the arc. Often you do that to a constant beat to achieve an uniform weld.
Man I swear there needs to be more show like this. Keep cranking out that dope ass content.🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Zach "It's a fun, durable, reliable car that we can beat up off road and it seems to enjoy it"
Zach's hair "That's what she said"
The helmet flip as soon as the beat changed was on point. 9:39 good job editors.
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Invest in an local exhaust extraction system for welding, especially when welding after using break cleaner with TCE (phosgene) or welding on stainless steel (hexavalent chromium).
I thought the rule was straight up don't weld anything with brake cleaner on it.......EVER. "once the gas is inhaled there is a little a doctor can do except give supportive care such as ventilation" that's enough to put me off going near the stuff personally!
Yeah best to stay away from brake clean altogether to be safe
"Will the exhaust be louder?"
"yeah but that's not the po..."
*IT'S WORTH IT*
Lmao
I appreciate you guys being honest in this saying it took 4 full days. I get people coming to my fabrication shop saying they've seen on UA-cam that an exhaust can be made in 14 minutes etc.
In terms of the welds on the pipes, back purging would tidy them up nicely as it makes the base material more stable.
nice job though.
"no matter what type of welding you're doing clean your materal" *laughs in farmers rod*
When he said that my first thought was “ I know a rod that would disagree “
Gotta love a good rust buster rod
A farmers rod with all the amps makes a great way to punch holes in thick metal for easy access to repairs.. Or so I'm told😏
He used brake clean too and I was just immediately going NO ZACH DON'T DO IT
@@Prestiged_peck as long as it’s non chlorinated it’ll be ok. Acetone would be a better choice.
Great video as always. Side note, don't war gloves when operating a belt sander or other similar stationary equipment like a table saw. The gloves can get pulled in causing you to hurt your fingers or worse 🤌
Tell the soundengineer this episode was a masterpiece!
I think the tips were phenomenal and the welding was amazing one tip for stainless steel is flux it’s specific for stainless, just makes the insides you said not to look at a bit cleaner without needing to backfill just a little flux on the inside and the outside just a friendly tip:)
That's a weirdly shaped skid plate lol
Yea did they title this wrong lol
Can confirm, diy exhaust can be decent with some trial and error. I had my 2008 honda fit straight piped from the cat for a while but recently put in a 2.5" inlet to 4" outlet 18" long muffler tip from evil energy on amazon and now my car has a nice deep tone.
I commend you Donut crew for working on Jack stands, It represents 90% of us
as two sets of MaxJacks sit in the background...
Get gas cups for the welder! They'll make the welds much higher quality, and they'll look even better. Keep it up, went to school for it, I absolutely love tig welding
Yes! I love my Pyrex cups. Totally a good and cheap investment for tig welding
Did you mean gas lens?? Or is it the same thing??
@@bangrntoo essentially the same thing yeah
Zach is my favorite Donut guy, I could watch him for hours. LOL I think I already have with all the videos
i love my damn car. idk why. ive had it for 10 years, on its 2nd motor, and still sitting on jack stands since 2020. you guys motivated me to get my exhaust system together this weekend. i have all the tubing and what not, just lazy. thank you donut
#teamjobe
That’s so dope ! The car is coming along dope ! But I would love to see just more driving videos we watch the cars get built but not enough of it driving !
SAY DOPE ONE MORE TIME
@@bamahammer949 dope
He is such a humble Guy and i would say a good Teacher too!
"Let's just keep our expectations *very low*"
-me when I wake up every day
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😢😭😭
Too real man, too real
THE SEXY GIRLS ARE BIGTITITS.UNO
THREE IN ONE
UA-cam: THIS IS FINE.
SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
UA-cam: BE GONE
Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
#Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
WHAT EXPECTATIONS ? I HAVE NONE ANY MORE.
This is an awesome series and a great video, keep up the good work Donut!
Welding is so simple in concept but hard in practice. Someday I may be a welder, but until then I will be the best grinder.
Zach at the moment you carry the channel, keep it going 👍
I admire your desire to learn Zack. That is admirable and it makes this show fun to watch. See you in the next episode.
I remember that back in the day, my exhaust on my old VW got rusted. So my friends recommended me a guy that does everything on his own... Decided to give it a go...
And really, literally, the guy did it from 0 right before my eyes! He just had a bunch of steel pipes he was bending according to measures! As for mufflers (I believe that is how you call them), he just had a bunch of flat tin sheet. And he did the same; measured them up, cut them, bent them and welded as well as putting some isolator material or whatever inside! Then put it all together, welded it and installed... And it worked just fine!
That was 6-7 years ago in a 1991 VW Polo! 2-3 years ago I sold the car. The dude who bought it is still driving it with the same exhaust!
My current car is a 2004 Citroen C2 and it has chrome lined exhaust in very good condition, so I hope it will last a bit longer...
Some advice for the future. Take the entire length of tubing, measure to the first bend, cut your 4°, weld it back together, measure to the next spot and repeat. Then at each bend, you only Weld one seam rather then 3.
Thank fudge someone actually said this! This is how we do it at work. It's proabably 70% faster, your putting less heat heat into the material, your not making multiple cuts so there's less room for error.
Also why have it on foot pedal why not just have an auto push button start on the torch? You're reducing variables which makes the job cleaner again.
Havent even seen the whole video yet, i give it a 10/10 completely worth it
I just saw the thumbnail and said “yeah, it’s worth it.
I’ve welded for 12 years. Everything from pressure vessel stainless to aerospace stainless, Inconel, aluminum and titanium. .016” all the way up to 1” thickness. I’m a welding instructor at one of the oldest welding schools in the country. Give me a week in your shop and I’ll have all of you welding like champs. 😂 the welds are pretty good, all an exhaust does is move air anyway. 🤷🏻♂️😂 also, I like the mini pie cuts to bend the exhaust. Classy way to do the soft bends.
As a person that does custom exhaust using a pipe bender, this was definitely very very hard to do, and it looks amazing! Great job with cuts and welding, and the angles were super pristine!
I don't understand why they don't use a pipe bender. Of course, most home garages don't have one or even know a shop that has one. But isn't that the only efficient way to do it?
Is there an advantage to getting a custom exhaust?? I dont want something super loud....just a bit louder a premium sounding. No drone etc....
@@KC-lg8qf Well, mandrel bent is supposed to be better than crimp bent, or whatever it is called. And bigger tubes are supposed to be better as are more free flowing mufflers which tend to be noisier. By better, I mean a tiny percentage better at wide open throttle at 5000 plus rpm.
OK, so it is 1978, I have a 72 Road Runner GTX 440 with true dual exhaust. Some turkey had his mom's 66 Coronet sedan. With a wheezy 318. He puts on glass packs, ladder bars, and bunch of free decals from the hot rod store. He is "compensating", as we would call it now. That is all loud mufflers are to me. "Compensating."
@@auteurfiddler8706 totally agree! Well said!
seriously the stuff these guys do is exactly the stuff i would love to do eveyday any application?🤔😂
i used to weld this stuff for pharma and food, mostly programing robots to do it all for me, jobe did a fantastic job of explaining the process and picking it up! very impressive!!!
god damnit i've got that 'give it the beans' song stuck in my head for the day again
Get ready for Suck. Squeeze. Bang. Blow
Love this show, thanks for the content... shout out to your editor for being awesome!
Not gona lie I looked up on Google to how to make rally car but no one has done one but now I found out u guys bin doing those so now u are first people on internet to show veido how to make rally car custom
Stainless tech tip...tac it, continue this way. Then make a controlled leak of argon inside the pipe... Stainless makes crystals. Then can break. So sealing one end with argon supply to then making a very small leak on the otherside will did the pipe, stop crystals. And maybe save your turbo if your fabbing the induction.... Behind the downpipe it's not as critical, but it's good practice
He already mentioned purging the inside.
What he didnt mention is getting a gas lens lol
18:55 So I guess the real gains were the friends we made along the way.
Good job getting used to the TIG. Learning how far you can choke up on it and the distance for you arc was the best part for me. And when you get a good rainbow pattern and it looks like you have laid down a row dimes you can’t help but smile.
"...kinda late, we got neighbours, so we're going to leave it to tomorrow" How can I give more thumbs up haha
Still waiting for Zach's 6 pack abs
Not even mod related but I really reaally appreciate that ya'll took your time to explain and show welding!
I'm a drummer, I picked up tig welding faster than my classmates that had the same experience as me because of my coordination. However, tig welding is a much different movement. patterns however, like a verticle v pattern I picked up really fast due to my inherent rhythmic ability
"I'm just gonna plow, er, peddle into it."
Yeah, I caught that.
Great stuff as always and excellent use of a welding marker. To the new welders out there take it from someone that had to learn the hard way, get some welding markers and always use them, they're worth every penny. Using Zach's 4° cut as an example, with that small of a change if you just "eyeball" it and don't weld the pieces back together at exactly 180° of rotation or if you're making a direct cut onto the item for the angle and instead of a coupler that you can position however you need to, you might find that the other end of your item is now an inch or two to the left or right of where it was supposed to be because of the slight deviation. At that point it's already too late and you'll end up either starting over or going down a rabbit hole trying to make it work. The "measure twice and cut once" philosophy is the same in welding, measure twice and weld once, you'll be glad you did.
I have to say I absolutely love the Warhol inspired shirt
where can we get it
Just one flaw in your conclusion. You say you save $600 from having to buy an exhaust but what you actually did was just a muffler delete and most shops will do that for only like $250 or maybe even less and that's cheaper then all the material that you bought.
if you’re getting charged anywhere near $250 for a muffler delete you’re getting robbed. everywhere i’ve went i’ve been quoted like $80-100
They wont use stainless pipe though
This video was how to fabricate your own exhaust, not chop off the muffler.
@@pushhrodd01 It can depend on a lot things though. The amount of mufflers being deleted (my last and current car has 3 mufflers each), the amount of piping needed and if you are having new tips installed. Most shops charge $75-100 just for 1 hour of labor alone. Not to mention the quality of the work.
If you want to get better looking welds without back purging, which is not entirely required for a muffler delete, just back off the heat or pulse the pedal to control heat input and also lay the torch down almost flat to the pipe like 15° -30° range instead of the 60° that gives full penetration. This way u dont have so much effect on the inside of the tube where the weld is unshielded. This will keep contamination from spoiling both sides of the weld. Critics would be quick to dismiss this technique because there wont be full strength as fully a penetrated perfectly filled pack purged joint. I cant say to apply this to a turbo manifold, its probably not going to work out since those love to crack even when seasoned welders fab them up proper! Cheers to learning something new, enjoyed the video guys!
Oh man missed Zach and Money Pit! So happy to watch this, this is one of the coolest videos. Zach going full ECS on that exhaust sounds soooo good though!
101.9 from stock exhaust? I thought CA was supposed to have a 95 dBA limit? 😆
Shhhhh 🤫
@Superluminal: You are correct!
"The sale and installation of an aftermarket exhaust system remains legal in California so long as it does not exceed a sound level of 95-decibels when tested under SAE J1492 and complies with all other exhaust and safety laws and regulations."
In other words, the stock exhaust was already illegal and this aftermarket mod is unequivocally law breaking territory.
Shhhhh 🤫
Zack the type pf guy who says he did it bad but still very impressive
It’s next Wednesday, Jobe. Where’s my new money pit episode??!
Ikrrrrr
Came back here to see if other were complaining.
Honestly, it sounds like the car now farts loudly 😂
I been watching y’all a lot lately but when I see you teaching us all a bit about welding and making your own exhaust that is so cool to me thank you
I feel like this was a perfect opportunity for some glass packs.