This Horror Movie Predicted the Future

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  • @TheMightyPika
    @TheMightyPika 7 місяців тому +563

    It sucks that whenever a movie accurately predicts the future, it's always a horror.

    • @DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
      @DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL 7 місяців тому +38

      It's like ol' Grandpa Tesla said:
      "You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension."
      Lo and behold.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 7 місяців тому +13

      Human biases cause us to perceive that pattern, but that isn't accurate.

    • @Loreweavver
      @Loreweavver 7 місяців тому +7

      Dude, I'm watching them push these 15 minute cities straight out of anime and sci-fi thinking well, here we go.

    • @BowerBomB
      @BowerBomB 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@Loreweavver what exactly is dystopian about being able to walk to the shops or your job?

    • @Loreweavver
      @Loreweavver 7 місяців тому +7

      @@BowerBomB somebody doesn't watch anime and sci-fi, eh?

  • @MantasticHams
    @MantasticHams 7 місяців тому +373

    If you think Videodrome predicted the future (And i'm a huge fan of the film by the way) then get ready to realize the villain/mastermind is based on, and quotes, Marshall Mcluhan, who was pioneering these ideas (Sans gore) as early as the 1960s! Dude Coined "The medium is the message" and "The global village", and was basically predicting the internet and all if its best/worst effects all the way back then.

    • @NoOne-uh9vu
      @NoOne-uh9vu 7 місяців тому

      Even more ironically Max Renn is basically Cronenberg himself. He is a materialist nihilist with no values or morals other than his own vision of what people want. He rejects the transcendental in favour of pleasures. He peddles in the bizarre and shocking instead of building things of lasting value and looking for true meaning and purpose. Quite an interesting movie coming from an atheist warning about the complete demoralisation of society through people like him which then in turn is hijacked and weaponised by nefarious forces in the industry and government to mind control people into accepting any degeneracy or atrocity. Very prophetic to say the least

    • @jukkamegido6409
      @jukkamegido6409 7 місяців тому +45

      Mcluhan also famously declared: ""I refuse to appear on television, except on television" meaning that, if interviewed, he'd never set foot in a studio, but rather talk through a TV screen...like Brian Oblivion does it himself in the movie.

    • @shanetaylor761
      @shanetaylor761 7 місяців тому +15

      I kinda feel like it's not that crazy a concept to predict the effects of the internet. Think how the world was before boats. Then think how it changed when empires started helping cultures blend across the world. There used to only be local news. All of a sudden knew what was happening around the world. All of that is the same as the internet only turned down 80%. So it's not like he envisioned this brand new concept. I can't help assume he just looked at problems that arouse in the past and tweaked them to reflect the future.

    • @Jasondurgen
      @Jasondurgen 7 місяців тому +7

      @@shanetaylor761makes sense. If you think about problems humanity faced in the past and how we either overcame them or fell to them, it could serve as a solid template for how a new technology that does x, y, and z will fare in the future if it wasn’t made yet but you have a lot of time to think about it using reductive reasoning and just figure it out

    • @metalmaidenhell138
      @metalmaidenhell138 7 місяців тому +2

      Crimes of Future the 2022 starring Viggo Mortensen is eerily depicting something I believe is right around the corner and it's scary fr!

  • @kilburnvideos
    @kilburnvideos 7 місяців тому +37

    "Long live the new flesh." Those words still creep out.

  • @Lorem_ipsum_dolor_sit_amet
    @Lorem_ipsum_dolor_sit_amet 7 місяців тому +76

    Another film from 1983 presented a way out of our abusive relationship with media (kinda).
    War Games: "The only winning move is not to play".

    • @gibbletronic5139
      @gibbletronic5139 7 місяців тому +4

      That quote was intended for men contemplating marriage.

    • @jessiemayfield6749
      @jessiemayfield6749 6 місяців тому +1

      Dude that’s a quote about war not the internet

    • @jenpachi2408
      @jenpachi2408 5 місяців тому +4

      It still holds true the BS will end when we stop feeding it

  • @wynfrithnichtwo8423
    @wynfrithnichtwo8423 7 місяців тому +315

    Freakiest instance of fiction being predictive that I personally encountered is the book, The Rift. It is from the late 90s. It predicts 9/11 to a T.

    • @6MyUsername9
      @6MyUsername9 7 місяців тому +56

      Mine was Lord of the Rings. We have dwarves now? Wtf?

    • @kylemckinney_22
      @kylemckinney_22 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@6MyUsername9and orcs

    • @naseemwaja8735
      @naseemwaja8735 7 місяців тому +35

      Not predict they planned it

    • @shanetaylor761
      @shanetaylor761 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@naseemwaja8735you wouldn't want to elaborate on that random comment would you lol.

    • @naseemwaja8735
      @naseemwaja8735 7 місяців тому +1

      @@shanetaylor761 what would u define the word predict as?

  • @milascave2
    @milascave2 7 місяців тому +16

    As a child in the 1970s, I remember watching the movie "Soylent Green." There was one scene where a guy was walking up the stairs to his apartment. The stairs were covered with homeless people lying down. He had to step over them. One said "Hey watch it."
    There were far less homeless people back then, and the idea of their being so many of them was in and of itself a depiction of a dystopian future.
    In the 1980s, when Regan became President, the number of homless people began to rapidly increase. Now, the idea of the streets being crowded with homeless people is, in some places, a daily reality.

    • @GeekyShyMama
      @GeekyShyMama 7 місяців тому +6

      In Soylent Green was not homelessness per se, it was overcrowding, there was not enough physical space for everyone, even the luxury apartments shown in the movie were small.

    • @zerocool5395
      @zerocool5395 6 місяців тому +1

      Living in a "Fancy neighborhood" and having to step over homeless people, watching them all drugged out on fetanyl is pretty dystopian.
      Couple cities like that in the US right now.

    • @cuesunny
      @cuesunny 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm a tutor for adults in rehab in long beach CA. There is little hope but still some hope. Seems like gaslighting is the cool thing to do and it will kill us very slowly.

    • @rayhill5767
      @rayhill5767 3 місяці тому

      Homeless are the new hippies. The new dropouts. The scourge of them is the homeless contribute nothing culturally unlike the hippie movement. No music, art or literature. They choose to remain voiceless whining and infantile.

    • @rayhill5767
      @rayhill5767 3 місяці тому

      Homeless are the new hippies. The new dropouts. The scourge of them is the homeless contribute nothing culturally unlike the hippie movement. No music, art or literature. They choose to remain voiceless whining and infantile.

  • @gibsonraymonda
    @gibsonraymonda 7 місяців тому +63

    The internet did what everyone feared television would do.

  • @MarkAfterDark
    @MarkAfterDark 7 місяців тому +161

    Videodrome is one of my all time favourite films and I've been telling people for years how this film predicted our relationship with media, the net and with things like live leak.

    • @thor1511
      @thor1511 7 місяців тому +4

      I love this film too, buy i thought the ending could have been done a bit better. I also feel that it inspired serial experiments lain to an extent

    • @MrChopstsicks
      @MrChopstsicks 7 місяців тому +3

      Ayyy Where is this years Spooktober?

    • @MarkAfterDark
      @MarkAfterDark 7 місяців тому +4

      @@MrChopstsicks in November. I'm busy filming a short film

    • @Chad48309
      @Chad48309 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@MarkAfterDark Bro, cannot wait to see it. ❤

    • @MrMuertoloco
      @MrMuertoloco 7 місяців тому +6

      This makes me think about all the toddlers you see glued to phones or ipads watching videos, it's insidious. Especially how easily they navigate in them.

  • @seankeeling9819
    @seankeeling9819 7 місяців тому +13

    Deus EX devs excluded the twin towers in the New York skyline due to rendering issues. In game lore was that terrorists destroyed them. 1 year later the towers fell in real life. Devs were interviewed by the FBI

  • @TheUltimateRey
    @TheUltimateRey 7 місяців тому +281

    We live in a dystopia, most people just don’t realize it

    • @BuzzingMeat
      @BuzzingMeat 7 місяців тому +17

      Obviously, dystopias will always exists and utopias aren’t possible. Some dude thinks not owning land is a utopia, another dude thinks it is a dystopia not being able to own land.

    • @Wingedmagician
      @Wingedmagician 7 місяців тому +7

      we’ve always been in one

    • @justathought7221
      @justathought7221 7 місяців тому +1

      I say that all time 😢

    • @janders79
      @janders79 7 місяців тому

      ...No.
      ua-cam.com/video/jbkSRLYSojo/v-deo.htmlsi=QWWJy0ljjUA49eej

    • @wcg66
      @wcg66 7 місяців тому +13

      I think that’s the reality of dystopias, the people in them don’t realize it. Equally, same with utopia. We may not realize how good or bad we have it. A dystopia is never absolutely bad nor would a real utopia be completely good. We live in a utopia compared to medieval times.

  • @ladyrose3285
    @ladyrose3285 6 місяців тому +18

    Now I definitely want to see this movie, just because James Wood is in it. I love him as an actor so underrated

  • @fredkeeler1234
    @fredkeeler1234 7 місяців тому +15

    Brilliant filmmaker. His best film is the more restrained Stephen King' adaptation "The Dead Zone" that same year.

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 7 місяців тому +24

    You should check out John Carpenter’s In the Mouth of Madness.
    Mainly because . . . it’s great
    But it does speak of society being warped by an obsession with fiction. Kinda similar themes

    • @timbeck6726
      @timbeck6726 7 місяців тому +1

      Amazing n' underated.

    • @SpoopySquid
      @SpoopySquid 2 місяці тому

      My favourite cosmic horror movie

  • @ragsdale710
    @ragsdale710 7 місяців тому +49

    Videodrome is one of my favourite films. I moved to Japan this year and they show older films all the time so there was 40th anniversary showing and watching this film in a cinema in Japan is a surreal experience, epically the start of the film

  • @yeez13
    @yeez13 7 місяців тому +58

    If you’ve never seen the film “Network” from the director Sidney Lumet and legendary screenwriter Paddy Chayefsky, I would do so immediately.
    Like VideoDrome, this movie was also centered around television and the drive to get better viewership…amongst other things. Not only did Chayefsky hit the nail on the head about where we are NOW…but he also had the foresight to understand what the psychology/zeitgeist of the 21st Century would be like back in the mid-1970s!
    I think you’d do an amazing job analyzing the prophetic nature of this movie like you’ve done with Videodrome! They’ve been Top 5 All Time Greatest Movies for me since I first saw them 👍🏽

    • @kilgoreplumbus1360
      @kilgoreplumbus1360 7 місяців тому +5

      I think he's mentioned Network before on this channel. Such a good movie, it was prescient to the point of being prophetic.

    • @ps2progamer814
      @ps2progamer814 7 місяців тому +4

      He said network is the most profound movie of all time

    • @StillLivinginthewoods
      @StillLivinginthewoods 7 місяців тому +6

      "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!!"

    • @milascave2
      @milascave2 7 місяців тому

      yeez: Yes. That movie was mainly based on events that were happening at the time. But it also predicted the "reality show" dynamic.
      They decided to make a show that followed a far left terrorist organization based on the Symbioses Liberation Army. The intermediary between the Network and the group was a black Communist who thought that the group was too extreme, based on Angela Davis.
      But soon, these Communists started to become more concerned about the ratings of the TV show than anything else.

    • @montxn
      @montxn 7 місяців тому +2

      "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore"

  • @scottmccrea1873
    @scottmccrea1873 7 місяців тому +4

    The problem of prediction is the human element - a single person - Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hitler - can alter the future in ways that are simply, well, _unpredictable._

  • @rodneyabrett
    @rodneyabrett 7 місяців тому +14

    The film had a huge impact on me as a young teen growing up in that era of VHS and pre-internet. Existenz was a sort of spiritual successor to this iconic classic with similar themes.

  • @diegocastillo6470
    @diegocastillo6470 5 місяців тому +3

    I'm from Colombia, as well as my girlfriend. I came to learn english and I can understand this material, my girlfriend is not there yet but will be soon, and I can't wait for her to be able to absorb this kind of videos and talk about them. Thank you for sharing such thought-provoking ideas.

  • @jmalmsten
    @jmalmsten 7 місяців тому +43

    If you haven't already, I would suggest looking up the works of Philip K. Dick in general. In particular I recommend Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I rank the movie it spawned (Blade Runner) as one of the very top films of all time (1992 DC version being my preferred edition). But if you only have seen the movie adaptation, you may find the book to be quite a wild ride. Exploring many more facets of future life that the more straight forward future noire thriller.

    • @quercus3290
      @quercus3290 7 місяців тому +2

      Ubik

    • @farerolobos9382
      @farerolobos9382 7 місяців тому +6

      He also wrote The Man in the High Castle, in which Germans and Japanese manage to convince the world that they won WW II. The recent incident of the former SS Nazi being unanimously applauded by the Canadian Parliament and the re-writing of the history of nazi collaborationism in Eastern Europe are, in my opinion as a historian, the most outstanding and dangerous examples of a dystopian prediction become true in literature.

    • @Khurzan72
      @Khurzan72 7 місяців тому +3

      He also believed that the Mandella effect is real, and reality is a program that is getting reprogrammed by an enemy entity while a godly entity is always trying to stay a few steps ahead

    • @Oldbmwr100rs
      @Oldbmwr100rs 6 місяців тому +3

      His story "A scanner darkly" was made into an amazing film, rotoscoped so as to seem like it's all a crazy dream. If you haven't seen it, i suggest you do.

    • @Eldritch-1
      @Eldritch-1 6 місяців тому +1

      A scanner darkly is much closer to our current reaity.

  • @fordtorino297
    @fordtorino297 7 місяців тому +23

    His Crimes of the future remake had a message that went over everyone’s head. It was a commentary about there is so much plastic in the world that human bodies were adapting to eating it

    • @gregs7519
      @gregs7519 7 місяців тому +1

      Micro plastics

  • @reekocarson
    @reekocarson 7 місяців тому +15

    Videodrome and Suspiria are my two fav movies of all time so seeing you make a video on this just made my day!

  • @dantexpcd
    @dantexpcd 7 місяців тому +11

    Long live the new flesh!

  • @zeromonster3381
    @zeromonster3381 7 місяців тому +30

    Great video. Cronenberg is always ahead of his time. It's uncanny. I recently watched 'Crimes of the Future" and while not his best, it was, as usual, prescient.

    • @OhBoy-zy5bc
      @OhBoy-zy5bc 4 місяці тому

      Eh, I found that movie weird as fuck.

  • @zonatedspore97acamas
    @zonatedspore97acamas 7 місяців тому +9

    Leaving comments for the algorithm!

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  7 місяців тому +2

      Thanks brotha!!!!!

    • @archerpence
      @archerpence 7 місяців тому

      All comments lead to Videodrome

  • @steelingcable6350
    @steelingcable6350 7 місяців тому +9

    I've been obsessed with both this movie and your channel for years. I'm so glad you finally made a video on this.

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 7 місяців тому +14

    Great movie, I remember to be terrified by the practical effects back in the day when I watched as kid, late in night.
    Great video, Max! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @Claudia000
    @Claudia000 7 місяців тому +81

    To be honest, this plot point mirrors Don Quijote de la Mancha by Cervantes, written during the Renaissance in Spain. An older, somewhat rich guy uses his free time to read knight stories to the point that he deluded himself into believing he was a knight and went on adventures. Since 1605, when this book was published, this trope that the next generation is living in decadence and delusion has been used in literature, a supposed warning of something that never came to be.
    Edit: this is not a criticism of the video and I also don't mean to be a downer. Jorge Luis Borges, a genius Argentinian writer, said that all stories have already been made and that originality is cyclical due to the erasure of time. I think you would love Borges short stories, they translate well into English.

    • @ftwkh85
      @ftwkh85 7 місяців тому

      every generation fixates on a reason for all future generations to be degenerate and worse. video games are making you abandon reality and make you degenerate. The tv moves by demons and will make you degenerate. the camera steals your soul and will make you degenerate. books will fill your head with ideas and make you degenerate. Its kind of a tiring cycle of intergenerational conflict i hope we as a species outgrow

    • @igodreamer7096
      @igodreamer7096 7 місяців тому

      Fair enough.

    • @mat_max
      @mat_max 7 місяців тому +3

      Qué grande Borges, cómo lo quiero

    • @lyznav9439
      @lyznav9439 7 місяців тому +5

      I don't think the two stories are that close. At least, not Avatar and Pocahontas close.

    • @DioBrando-qr6ye
      @DioBrando-qr6ye 7 місяців тому +1

      Although I don't think Borges predicted the isolation of people attached to their screens most of their days instead of living in reality. It may also not have predicted the use of "TV names", the names UA-camrs use and that I myself am using right now.

  • @joeharris3878
    @joeharris3878 7 місяців тому +9

    Just about anyone can predict the future.
    What's hard is predicting the future correctly.

  • @BlackieNuff
    @BlackieNuff 7 місяців тому +8

    I don't like to say these were "predictions" (because that implies some kind of clairvoyance), so much as they were warnings, based on inside knowledge that could not be disclosed except through representative means, such as film and other arts/entertainments. A sort of "tell without telling" kind of thing.

  • @CellarDoor-rt8tt
    @CellarDoor-rt8tt 7 місяців тому +9

    While I agree with the analysis surrounding fake news, I think it’s also making a point about the ways in which these highly stimulating and visceral experiences we have online can be so all consuming that our culture is built less and less on what is actually real and more on shared fantasy. I wish more people valued real life interactions as much as I do, but it seems like we are all slowly moving in the direction of permanently online interaction

    • @Eldritch-1
      @Eldritch-1 6 місяців тому

      Humans are stupid, hateful and self destructive, why would anyone choose to associate with mobilized cancer?

  • @jasonblundelldobebussing
    @jasonblundelldobebussing 7 місяців тому +12

    Ah yes, the Skibidi toilet prequel - The Cameraman; Origins.

  • @seejaydee9113
    @seejaydee9113 6 місяців тому +2

    Thankyou so much for this!
    I am obsessed with Videodrome and how it relates so accurately to nowadays society.
    You did an amazing job conveying this message and I am so grateful to have such a brilliant mind such as yourself.
    We live in a dystopian world and it's fantastic to have you point it out so precisely ❤

  • @evidencedestroy9743
    @evidencedestroy9743 7 місяців тому +2

    man and here i was thinking gallucinations started when i heard signalis ost

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el 7 місяців тому +2

    Even in Timecop in like 95' the villain completely predicted the future almost to the letter : P

  • @cobrastrapcobb
    @cobrastrapcobb 7 місяців тому +5

    In the vain of visionary artists that predicted the future please give Nueromancer and Snowcrash a read. Two sci fi novels that laid the foundation of how we perceive the internet and also where we got much of our terminology

    • @bladerunnersynthwave
      @bladerunnersynthwave 4 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely agree. First read Neuromancer in 1995 and it had predicted or influenced a lot back then. I'm rereading it right now and am stunned at how much of it has predicted / influenced reality now. I've bought the rest of the Sprawl series, which I've never read, so am interested to see what else is now real 😊

  • @DaveButtons
    @DaveButtons 7 місяців тому +2

    Legitimately stoked to see the work that went into this book. Todd is great at getting these creative individuals to open up about their work and passion and the product sounds awesome. I’m hoping that these people will sign my copy when I find them. [NEW QUEST UNLOCKED: Gather The Signatures]

  • @fakename4683
    @fakename4683 7 місяців тому +3

    I don’t think Cronenberg was predicting the future, more identifying the change that already happened at its effects. The movie is commenting on the 1970s violent movies (Clockwork Orange already got an X rating a decade before).
    The sci-fi obscures the fact that by the 80s movies became more violent but nobody cared as much and now seeks them out. Scarface came out in 83 and received an R rating despite being more gratuitous in its subject matter than A Clockwork Orange.
    Lastly, it’s not the internet he is commentating on but the home video market. Snuff films were an urban legend and boogeyman of the 70-80s video market.
    This movie makes me realize how little things change over time honestly.
    Something I think you may get a kick out of would be “Ong’s Hat”. It’s a pre-social media ARG-like meta fiction.

    • @timbeck6726
      @timbeck6726 7 місяців тому

      Goofy sufi's, nuclear physicists, and time travel to the future n' back...goo stuff

  • @c6jones720
    @c6jones720 7 місяців тому +2

    I just like the start where the technician is decoding a satellite signal with an atari 800 of all things

  • @TheRKae
    @TheRKae 7 місяців тому +2

    Here are 2 predictive works everyone needs to experience: 1.) "The Machine Stops" (a short novella by E.M. Forster). Everyone lives in individual underground cells and communicates through TV screens. (This was written in 1909!) Their lives are controlled by "the Machine." When the Machine stops... no one knows how to fix it... or where it is. 2.) "Karn Evil 9" (a half-hour long progressive rock song by Emerson, Lake & Palmer from 1973). It tells the story of miserable people in an oppressive tech society who are entertained by a computerized circus of hedonism, then they find themselves in a war, wherein the machine is their friend... and in the end the machine turns on them, wipes out humanity and then shuts itself off.

  • @BlackishSayian
    @BlackishSayian 7 місяців тому +3

    How about The unibomer. His predictions are pretty chilling. Especially considering they where made before the conception of the internet, which heavily exasperated his predictions.

    • @nikolajignatiev6323
      @nikolajignatiev6323 6 місяців тому

      Calling him Unaboomer is something I've never even thought possible until now.

  • @yeah_dude03
    @yeah_dude03 3 місяці тому +1

    By far the best analysis on this movie, exactly what i was looking for. thank you ❤🎉🎉

  • @paulh2468
    @paulh2468 7 місяців тому +2

    I haven't read it, but apparently "Stand on Zanzibar" by John Brunner was highly predictive. Written in 1968. The historian Niall Ferguson wrote in 2021 that Brunner predicted the 21st century far better than most other fiction authors. It inspired the 3rd season of the tv show "Westworld".

  • @icaroalencar99
    @icaroalencar99 7 місяців тому +2

    Hey Max, great work as always! I'd like to suggest you take a look at the book Propaganda (1928) by Edward Bernays. The guy pointed out that advertising is how society organizes information. Sounds familiar? It would be great a video crossing it with MG2 content.

  • @mrg3241
    @mrg3241 7 місяців тому +8

    Another great Cronenberg movie to follow-up this one with is the 1999 film eXistenZ. It explores many of the same themes but through video games instead of television, and it fortunately has a much improved budget.

  • @obsoletetortoise4785
    @obsoletetortoise4785 7 місяців тому

    I love when you release new videos, gives my day so many insightful thoughts

  • @federicocrescentini4806
    @federicocrescentini4806 7 місяців тому +6

    Amazing video of an amazing movie! I read Cronenberg had different endings for the movie, one of them would happen after the actual ending of the movie, were the characters of James Woods and Debbie Harris appear in the videodrome set with similar body horror's deformities like in the film. I think this ending responds to the idea you presented as a form of Nirvana to be achieved, you transcend body and conscience in a new stage completly different from the known reality, perhaps a next step of evolution.

  • @marleen14
    @marleen14 6 місяців тому

    I watch a lot of your videos at work, it's wonderful that you're so thurough with your explinations.

  • @oldsoldier181
    @oldsoldier181 7 місяців тому +2

    I remember when this first came out. It was REALLY hard to watch and understand. Looking back, sadly, it was, quite simply, a road map to over "education". I mean, we literally have every conceivable piece of information at our hand-and yet, you have people deny the Holocaust happened, that the earth is flat, and that we never landed on the moon.....

  • @JohnnyBurnes
    @JohnnyBurnes 7 місяців тому +11

    And if you want a weirder Cronenberg movie, there's Naked Lunch. And if you then want a weirder Peter Weller movie, there's Buckaroo Banzai!

    • @SSMLivingPictures
      @SSMLivingPictures 7 місяців тому +1

      Watching Naked Lunch tonight

    • @thecandyman9308
      @thecandyman9308 7 місяців тому +1

      @@SSMLivingPictures NL is pretty rad ain't it?

    • @SSMLivingPictures
      @SSMLivingPictures 7 місяців тому +1

      @@thecandyman9308 Heeey!!! yah, I loved it!! It was a trip! I'll definitly be watching it again!

  • @aaronchiusano8732
    @aaronchiusano8732 7 місяців тому +6

    Marshall McLuhan is probably where Kojima and Cronenberg got thier philosophical influences from when it comes to the power of media.

    • @HeloIV
      @HeloIV 7 місяців тому +5

      Brian O'Blivion was inspired by McLuhan

  • @DJTS1991
    @DJTS1991 7 місяців тому +2

    Another stellar video, Max!
    I've now got Peter Griffin's, "I'm a tumour, I'm a tumour," song stuck in my head. Fantastic. Lol.
    I don't think anyone could have predicted the internet. It really changed everything.
    It meant people like me, who ordinarily would have not succeeded in the world, had access to information that could competitively keep me going.
    Perhaps you could do a video on S1MONE and how it predicted the issues with AI Actors in the world today.

    • @soccerandtrack10
      @soccerandtrack10 7 місяців тому +1

      The episode when peter gets a tv channel=parady of the movie?

  • @xantishayde-walker4593
    @xantishayde-walker4593 7 місяців тому

    I have befinitely heard of this movie before, never had the will to watch it. I might now.
    Your short yet sweet video has pushed me in that direction.
    Also, gotta love the LoK reference at the end. Vae victus!

  • @alheno5423
    @alheno5423 7 місяців тому +1

    I think it’s better to hear some context first before watching the movie… it can be almost impossible to figure out what’s going on so your viewpoint could help, but then again if they see it first then watch this and then watch it gain that’s probably optimum

  • @Geep1778
    @Geep1778 7 місяців тому +1

    Meanwhile the 1st iteration of VR glasses are about to come out soon… this movie is just about to start in real time

  • @unfille991
    @unfille991 7 місяців тому +1

    Whoa! Wasn't expecting this to be a Videodrome essay. Good work! Love this movie. Well... love to hate to love it...?

  • @ArcticB4Desert
    @ArcticB4Desert 7 місяців тому +1

    Dude I was not expecting a video about Videodrome. I love that movie

  • @JeremyDeere
    @JeremyDeere 7 місяців тому +2

    I think you are so right on many points but not all avoid pain. Many seek it. This is a science fiction world of the 80s that we live in today. I never thought I'd be alive when we got there and I never thought it would be so smoothly integrated it appeared normal par for the course.

  • @SoulbreakerNB
    @SoulbreakerNB 7 місяців тому

    Glad I watched it before finishing your video.

  • @frahohen
    @frahohen 5 місяців тому

    I love that you think in concepts and do not get lost in correct use of "wording" or "language".

  • @CYI3ERPUNK
    @CYI3ERPUNK 7 місяців тому +2

    nice Legacy of Kain finish =]

  • @M05tly
    @M05tly 7 місяців тому

    Not entirely related to your video, but I remember that part of the conversation betwem raiden and the genral about what are our own ideas. That is something that has influenced me ever since.

  • @streamandtell724
    @streamandtell724 7 місяців тому

    one of your best so far

  • @pipinfresh
    @pipinfresh 7 місяців тому +1

    I still have my VHS copy of videodrome. It used to be one of my favourite films. I still quote "all hail the new flesh" to this day.

  • @garyphisher7375
    @garyphisher7375 7 місяців тому +6

    Shivers has always been my favourite Cronenberg film. It has stayed with me ever since I watched it as a 17 year old boy (37 years ago).
    It predicted the sexualisation of society, and what the effect would be. Personally I would make it a mandatory watch for every 16/17 year old.
    I vividly remember being incredibly turned on - then when the ending happened, feeling disgusted - and understanding why some things should remain private!

  • @Drifter2025
    @Drifter2025 7 місяців тому

    I like how you snuck that in at the last moment!

  • @adonisadonisadonis
    @adonisadonisadonis 7 місяців тому +1

    Funny that I just watched this again earlier this week!

  • @morskiyef8999
    @morskiyef8999 7 місяців тому +14

    As always, Max with the best content. Love you, man.
    Also, any plans to explore others themes in Lost or Twin Peaks?

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  7 місяців тому +13

      Love you too, dude!!!!! Regarding Lost, I have a few ideas. I want to do videos on the nature of the Smoke Monster and the way the series tackles the theme of fate vs. free will. The question is... would those videos we watched by enough people to warrant the effort? Maybe! I just have to figure it out.
      As for Twin Peaks, it's inevitable, given how many people have asked me to do a video on it. The problem is... I have never seen an episode of Twin Peaks yet! I REALLY want to watch it though, because I love David Lynch. Stay tuned!

    • @morskiyef8999
      @morskiyef8999 7 місяців тому +1

      @@maxderrat i wasn't expecting an answer so fast. love you even more now.
      I'm surprised you never watched it. But, tbh i just finished 1 month ago.
      There's one specific theme in Twin Peaks that everytime it was mentioned, i always found myself thinking "man, i wish Max had a video exploring that. sounds so interesting."

    • @Under_Code
      @Under_Code 7 місяців тому +3

      @@maxderrat while Twin Peaks has a very... heavy handed pilot I suppose, the series has some great characters, and it quickly starts to grow on you after that pilot

    • @pinkimietz3243
      @pinkimietz3243 7 місяців тому +7

      Twin Peaks > Lost

    • @morskiyef8999
      @morskiyef8999 7 місяців тому +1

      @@pinkimietz3243 I like john locke a lot, but can't disagree with you.

  • @irradix213
    @irradix213 23 дні тому

    'the battle for the mind of North America will be fought in the video arena", has been stuck in my head for 25yrs

  • @sadwizard9386
    @sadwizard9386 7 місяців тому +1

    Really love your shift towards cinema analysis!
    Any plans on covering some of the late von Trier's works?
    IMO his Gnostic/generally occult references in the Antichrist, the House that Jack built and the Kingdom season 3 are overlooked way to often in favour of metacommentary and psychological aspects while the man clearly knows what he's saying and has some really profound messages on the Demiurge and the flesh we are trapped in
    Personally, I see his films mostly as a presentation of Bataillean/Burroughsean "base materialist" form of Gnostic worldview reviewed from the Jungean point oif view and find it truely fascinating

  • @DavidJones-pc4ft
    @DavidJones-pc4ft 7 місяців тому +1

    I think 'A Clockwork Orange' has pretty much come true.

  • @carloselizondo7671
    @carloselizondo7671 6 місяців тому +1

    "Smokey and the Bandit" predicted my future.

  • @BuckROCKGROIN
    @BuckROCKGROIN 7 місяців тому +3

    Good video. I was hoping you'd make some SE Lain parallels.

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  7 місяців тому +4

      Oh shit. Yeah, that's a good point. Man, I really should have done that. xD

    • @BuckROCKGROIN
      @BuckROCKGROIN 7 місяців тому +1

      @@maxderrat Videodrome is the only media franchise I'm aware of that I can compare to SE Lain and vice versa.

  • @vincentgaliano
    @vincentgaliano 7 місяців тому +2

    One of your best videos, nice to see you talk about Cronenberg ! This is not the only Cronenberg's film you could talk about though. Don't stop here !😀

  • @dragonbro5607
    @dragonbro5607 7 місяців тому +4

    Max, on the topic of videodrome, there's a game by the developers of Killer 7 called the Silver Case where they not only reference it but they also invoke the themes of the internet and control and such. It's a Visual Novel so you'd have to be into those somewhat but I truly believe it's an incredibly profound game.

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  7 місяців тому +9

      Dude, you have no idea how badly I want to do a video covering all of Suda51's games that aren't Killer7 or No More Heroes. I want to do Silver Case, FS&R, 25th Ward, Moonlight Syndrome... the problem I face is finding time to go through all of them and how to market the video so people would be interested in it.

    • @Incognito980
      @Incognito980 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@maxderratjust popping in to say I love your content no matter what. I come here for your intelligence and sharing of profound concepts that is so digestible. Just create what you like Max, we love you and your work no matter what ❤️

    • @dragonbro5607
      @dragonbro5607 7 місяців тому +1

      @maxderrat oh man, you analyzing FSR would be a dream come true! No one talks about it! I can see why, but still lol For sure though, Grasshopper is very heady stuff. I've been working through the catalog for the better part of 2 years now. Seems like one of the only people talking Grasshopper is the channel GhenryPerez.

  • @Aeonbarr
    @Aeonbarr 7 місяців тому +2

    I know it's out of your wheelhouse, Max, but you might raise a brow at the Cyberpunk lore books for Cyberpunk 2020 and Cyberpunk RED

  • @SnlDrako
    @SnlDrako 7 місяців тому

    That Legacy of Kain reference at the end was a nice touch.

  • @jeremybowers3181
    @jeremybowers3181 7 місяців тому

    Wow,great video kind of like the first time I watched THEY LIVE....haven't got it outta my head yet.

  • @tombuilder1475
    @tombuilder1475 7 місяців тому +1

    that is one messed up deep movie. when it came out I rented it and brought to a friends house. his parents sat down and started watching too. after about 15 min they were furious pulled the video out and sent me home! it is practically like a cheap but quality Kubrick film with everything including names, props and set dripping symbolism!

  • @whoopswrongbutton3987
    @whoopswrongbutton3987 7 місяців тому

    Nice video, awesome movie, and perfect for the season!

  • @cillianennis9921
    @cillianennis9921 7 місяців тому +1

    I watched this months ago when you referenced it in another video & I went like hey I haven't seen it & might as well watch a lot of David Cronenberg movies so I guess I need to thank you for allowing me to start watching things like Videodrome, Rabbid (a great & unique zombie movie), the one with exploding heads forget its name but something to do with pshycis, the one about the creepy kids that is an alligory for an abusive relationship & a divorce. Glad I could find them on the internet archieve as otherwise it'd probaly have been quite hard to find them as they are the old & more obscure of his works & so less likely to be on streaming & harder to find a physical copy.

    • @theproplady
      @theproplady 7 місяців тому

      Are you thinking about Scanners?

    • @cillianennis9921
      @cillianennis9921 7 місяців тому

      @@theproplady yeah that's it. I also watched another but I'd have to find the excele document I made to display all the movies & mark when I'd watched them instead of using Wikipedia or something to do it.
      EDIT: found my reference thing the other one was The brood & I was planing on continueing but the GCSEs started & I haven't watched any since but like I'll do myself the Halloween thing & binge them one a day as a restrained person does.

  • @nubius
    @nubius 7 місяців тому

    It's fun to see you discover older media ^_^

  • @ronmackinnon9374
    @ronmackinnon9374 6 місяців тому

    Seems like 'Videodrome' is a dystopia in a line of descent from Huxley and 'Brave New World.'
    I also saw parallels to the films 'Strange Days' (from the '90s) and 'Demonlover' (from the 2000s).

  • @DraQinn
    @DraQinn 7 місяців тому +1

    "Well, I think we live in overstimulated times. We crave stimulation for its own sake. We gorge ourselves on it. We always want more, whether it's tactile, emotional or sexual."

  • @JustCozItsMe
    @JustCozItsMe 7 місяців тому

    I’m praying and taking every step I can to help push us to that coin edge outcome. I’ve sent this and other stuff like it to several people over the years. Will it help, idk but here’s to the hope.

  • @valviform
    @valviform 6 місяців тому +1

    I started nodding when you first said "Videodrome" lol

  • @gregmattson2238
    @gregmattson2238 5 місяців тому

    yeah I just watched videodrome last night, and man was it spot on. I can think of two other movies that predicted the current place we are in both worth 10 rewatches - network from 1976, and talk radio from 1988. 1970s through the 1980s was a special time for movies and these three are just stunning in their predictive power. I think they are each well worth a video of their own.

  • @themarlboromandalorian
    @themarlboromandalorian 7 місяців тому +1

    Wait until we hit the point where we enter the Heinlein timeline.
    Three words.
    Kinetic orbital bombardment.

  • @BowerBomB
    @BowerBomB 7 місяців тому +4

    The irony was lost on me at the time... but i first discovered video drome at an age where i was constantly seeking out graphic horror content and especially movies that featured sex and bdsm...
    I can't pretend it hit me with some grand realisation... mostly just confusion over the plot.

  • @RainerKusama-Hinte
    @RainerKusama-Hinte 7 місяців тому

    I’m so glad people are talking about Videodrome it’s such a crazy film.

  • @NviGWarren
    @NviGWarren 7 місяців тому

    Great Video!!

  • @bruisedhelmet8819
    @bruisedhelmet8819 7 місяців тому +1

    Ah, another instance of “It’s not the end of the world but you can see it from here” but in reality what we see is in our rear view mirror and it most certainly is the worlds end.

  • @ronmackinnon9374
    @ronmackinnon9374 6 місяців тому

    Interesting video. I understand that one can only fit so much in, but I noticed that there didn't seem to be anything (whether in this video's commentary or in 'Videodrome' itself) relating these problems to issues of class power and class conflict, and I think that's important if we're ever to get out of this dystopian downward spiral.

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 7 місяців тому

    Great choice and work!

  • @bclowns333
    @bclowns333 7 місяців тому +4

    Oh so that's were the Brain Dance (Cyberpunk 2077) gotten the idea from.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 7 місяців тому +3

      Johnny Mnemonic more likely. Especially since the entire concept is based on that. And all of this comes from a novella from the 80's that I cant remember the name of.

    • @ret2156
      @ret2156 7 місяців тому

      the movie strange days has a similar device its from the 90s I think.

    • @vee-bee-a
      @vee-bee-a 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Dravianpn02Neuromancer?

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 7 місяців тому +1

      @@vee-bee-a yes!!

    • @vee-bee-a
      @vee-bee-a 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Dravianpn02 Glad to be of help, chummer.

  • @kjhansonkjhanson6643
    @kjhansonkjhanson6643 7 місяців тому

    Great video. My favorite cronenberg film is The Brood. His son is a pretty good film maker too.

  • @Nick.t.S
    @Nick.t.S 7 місяців тому

    Your explanation as to how to make basic predictions in the first minute reminds me of the writing approach Matt Stone and Trey Parker take to making South Park as shown in a talk they did at a university.
    And honestly it scans, I feel a lot of their content is educated if not fairly accurate in it’s zaniness/ unhinged truth.

  • @PinchyTheKittyGirl
    @PinchyTheKittyGirl 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the recommendation, my new overlord :P

  • @maximilianoelschlegel4714
    @maximilianoelschlegel4714 7 місяців тому +1

    Instead of Tumors, it's Influencers...
    Can I have that embroidered on a pillow?

  • @STARSVeteran
    @STARSVeteran 7 місяців тому

    Happy Halloween. Max! 😊 Stay Yellow! ❤

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 3 місяці тому

    Great analysis of this iconic body horror classic long live the new flesh.