Aiden H she wanted an extra 5 grand for the abortion. They wouldn’t give it to her. That’s when she decided she was “morally against it”. She literally signed a contract stating the parents wanted the pregnancy terminated if the child had birth defects significantly affecting quality of life. She agreed to it then broke the law because she couldn’t get as much money out of the couple as she wanted. She didn’t give a shit about the baby
The fact that she still got out of it shows something. Everybody is tempted to ride on the easy road. One becomes different when you choose to take a turn. She did that rather than giving up. I think that shows we can resist temptations.
@@mya3965 she had 8 years on this earth full of love & that is the most important thing. It’s sad that she died @ age 8 but at least she was loved & well cared for
MovieManiac33 She claimed that. But I don't believe people who break contracts, extort people for more money and steal babies. Neither should you. :) If you do that, you're naive.
In case you haven't noticed, you just said, it's okay to break the law. No, it's not. That's my and your obligation to society. And, a fetus isn't a human being yet, stop claiming it is. Go look up the definition of human being. I'm perfectly justified in claiming the moral high ground. I'm not extorting people, stealing babies or saying "it's ok to break the law". No, no, no.
sooooooo for 15 grand she would have done it? she signed a contract stating if there was a medical problem she would abort and she broke that agreement because of money. she's no hero.
I think he means the actual contract signed when agreeing to be a surrogate. The people paying all her bills pretty much have the say as if it was theirs. Meaning, usually the parents adopting can choose an abortion if there are medical issues.
Listen to the video again. That was addressed. Do you think the psychological and emotional toll on her, had she gone through with it, doesn't justify $$ for therapy afterward? The toll on her body alone is worth more than 60K imo.
They told Her to be "God like" and end the pregnancy. This woman was already a single mom she just sorta cancelled her contract because the baby had some health issues. A cute baby who is going to have a great life in the right home. Bless that baby girl, in hopes she does live a long life despite the odds like lots of children have when parents have been told they wouldn't stand a chance from the tests they did prenatal
@@nanak5890 yes ❤️ you did a great job explaining a common event in American eugenic medicine, misdiagnosis that are used to push abortion. Not only that, in the north there is public health insurance so even with the fact you Can get an abortion up to full term , if you decide not to you can be sure your child gets the fullest medical attention necessary to take care of their issues. Scaring poor uneducated and rural people by saying their baby will not survive is just a tactic to normalize abortion... It will never be normal for humans to behave like animals in those ways.
cmdrkoenig67 With all the medical costs, and the fact that she's already a single parent, I doubt that she could afford to keep her. They did say that she would need several expensive surgeries.
It wasn’t ‘her’ baby to begin with. Like, technically it was the first couple’s baby. And she was a surrogate mom, so it’s not really surprising that she didn’t ‘want’ the baby after the birth. She was meant to carry it not keep it
Totally repulsive of her. The Parents went into a contract for a normal baby with the option of terminating if there were any abnormalities. She is totally evil for bringing a baby into the world to suffer.
Before we're judgemental, let's consider the fact of WHY she became a surrogate to begin with (financial reasons), her self admittance of considering an abortion had she been offered $15,000, the fact that she changed her mind, continued the pregnancy without the ongoing financial aid, and found the baby the baby a safe loving home! It's hard to put yourself in the shoes of a stranger, but in this particular situation, I believe that the surrogate acted in such away that she felt she was doing the right thing, despite the initial agreements between herself and the biological parents! !Look at how beautiful the little girl is even though her body is not perfect, she is loved, she has value, and a chance at having a wonderful life!
Queen Cee it wasn't De Selby who said that...... that's what the woman said they offered her 10thousand 2 abort the baby & she upped that offer 2 15thousand but the couple refused so she was saying she's acting all mother Teresa up in here 🤣 bout saving this child's life, doin the right thing etc but if they had gave her the 15thousand you wouldn't be hearing about this story on the news..... 😂
@Promise You that’s not how it works ...if you want to move across state lines to give the baby a chance & take care of her , then sure ..but you don’t get an offer to abort the baby and then counter that offer for more ..now suddenly she wanted to cross into another state after her offer was declined ....she’s no saint . if she made that decision before trying to get more money to abort her , then it’s understood . but i can’t look at her like she made the decision because she wanted the baby to have a life , because that clearly wasn’t the case & probably did that out of spite to make the other individuals look bad after not giving her $15k... evidently she believe that baby life was only worth $15k when the life of that child is not worth any kind of money ..
@Promise You she had her just so she could suffer, ALONE. Her parents didn’t want that life for her. And not all parents are cut out for that kind of responsibility or life, and that should be their choice! I’m sure this was all put in the contract that the surrogate signed.
@@pattiadams2764 and i don’t disagree with you ..i’m not saying they are wrong or right for asking her to get an abortion . but them not wanting her to suffer due to the complications she was born with is understood , especially if she was in pain . i just feel like there’s a motive behind that decision & the motive is greed .
So she: Signed a contract saying she’d get an abortion. Agreed to get one for 15k. Fled when she didn’t get the money. Didn’t even keep the baby and gave her up for adoption. The girl died at only 8 years old due to all her health complications. AND YET SHES TAKING THE HIGH GROUND lol pleaseeee. She should be in jail.
She died from an infection not "due to all her health complications" but nice try. 8 years is still better than her being murdered before she even got the chance to enjoy life 🙄
@@lunasbix4338 an infection is something people go through every day. This person said due to ALL HER HEALTH COMPLICATIONS, implying the conditions she was born with. She didn't die from "all her health complications" She died because of an infection. Not the same thing in the slightest. 😁😁😁
Peridot Leader of the Crystal Gems Are you seriously impaired, youself? Will this so called "BEST CHANCE at life have any quality of life? Selfish, she was willing to abort, send that baby back to GOD for 5,000 more dollars!
Peridot Leader of the Crystal Gems The child has massive brain damage and has no quality of life. How is that fair to a person who is going to suffer their whole life.
I honestly completely agree with the parents. If you find out before the baby is born that they will have serious problems then there is no point in giving birth to the baby just to give it a miserable life full of bullying, hospitals, medication and the risk of dying.
But she ended up giving the baby up and and then the actual family heard about it and tried to get her back. For the love of god tell the whole story. She just wanted money
What I don't understand is that SHE GAVE THE BABY UP ANYWAY. After the "negotiations" the couple said they'd give the baby up. So, she decided to go to Michigan to GIVE THE CHILD UP instead??? Thirsty much???
Seems like she found someone willing to adopt the Baby herself, instead of letting the baby go into federal system. I don't think that the bio parents would have looked that hard for a good family for the baby.
@@patriciacannon4242 maybe. When the doctors say hey this one's a lemon. You abort and try again when you're feeling up to it. If you're spending all your time and money and a decent chunk of your ideal child bearing years taking care of a "special needs" child, that's a poor allocation of family resources. I'd have to get into specifics about the couple on an individual basis but yes I believe there's metric that can be established to offer all sorts of great reasons to abort fetus/baby. Not to mention what she did to the insurance pool with her health problems those eight years. I'm guessing you might be one of those all lives are important types ergo need to be lived no matter the consequences? If so, dont get too bent out of shape. One of the last great things about America is that we all get to choose what's best for us regardless of what others say or believe when it comes to our health and family planning.
She didn’t give two hoots about the baby. The biological parents cared about the quality of life their child was going to have, she didn’t. If she did she wouldn’t haven’t given the child to someone else but would have kept her to make sure she was loved and taken care of. I’m convinced she was being vindictive towards the bio parents for daring to refuse her the 15k. She knew they would worry for life about their child who needs serious attention and probably suffering somewhere with someone they don’t know. Now she’s out here seeking praise and attention for it... go figure...
The Biological parents had no intention of keeping a child with physical health defects in the first place. The bio-parents offered her 10k to end the pregnancy and she countered with 15k to end it but she couldn't do it. She took steps to protect this baby from being aborted or being lost in the foster care system. She went to a state where she was legally called the baby's mother. She gave this baby to a couple who genuinely wanted her. Not to some shallow couple who would leave her in the foster care system. If anything she did more to protect this little girl than anybody else did. It would not have surprised me if the bio-parents would have let her rot in the foster care system instead of giving her a chance to live dumbass!
@@CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue With all due respect Celeste, where was her integrity when 1. she signed and entered into an agreement with a option to abort? 2. She upped the price for abortion? (She didn’t withdraw, they refused her the 15k). Of course, we hope and pray the adoptive parents take really good care of the child but this doesn’t change the fact that the surrogate was holding the bio parents to a standard she herself couldn’t meet as she thought it too much to keep the baby herself... Her actions have manipulative and vindictive written all over them
@@pumezaskeyi3195 Those egg and sperm donors were sketchy at best. They wanted a "perfect" child and when they didn't get it they tried bribing her to end the pregnancy and when she wouldn't let their baby go they said that they would place her up for adoption. Her actions were saving this child from being aborted and then being placed in the foster care system which is overwhelmed with kids and babies that need time and attention. If anybody was being manipulative it was the egg and sperm donors.
@@CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue they said they would place their child up for adoption before the lady took her out of state. she did it out of spite because if she was against abortion she would have NEVER agreed to it. she didn't get what she wanted 15k so the agreed to place the child into a foster home. so again why would she need to leave? she was mad she couldn't get the 15k. and the child died at 8yrs old due to complications so the birth parents were right.
Remember that all people tend to project their beliefs about a situation onto others. Please reread your comments and think about yourself. Are you always tending to think negative about others motives?
She felt so connected with this baby that she would NEVER consider abortion!! Well, not for less than 15k. Smh. Wow. Just wow. 🤦🏼♀️ Meanwhile she finds a family to adopt this sweet baby. Which is EXACTLY what the parents were gonna do!! Sorry lady, you ain't super woman!! Ridiculous!
Actually the parents were going to throw her into the sistume and she know that it is highly unlikley she would ever be adopted do to that, so she went and found someone wanting her so the baby would not be thrown into the sistume & forgoten about.
@Fig Lia She never gave the baby to the system. She gave it to someone she meet who she know could take care of her. She did not want the baby to end up like all those disabled kids who never get adopted.
Laur C she still entertained it, it wasnt like she kept the kid. She moved to a safe space to pawn the little girl off to somebody else, the decision wasnt for her to make in the first place, she might have felt that baby but it wasnt hers at all, it wasnt a call to make. If you were working at a doctors office as some type of secretary where the doctor was paying you to do your job, would it be appropriate for you to decide if someone needs open heart surgery? No. But thats what she decided. Now this little girl will probably have a very difficult road ahead of her, being in pain, maybe even emotionally, knowing her parents thought of aborting her and the surrogate entertained the idea her life wasnt worth the 15 grand but oh how wrong that is with all the surgery she will have to be having. She might not even be able to comprehend the situation, she might be that disabled, who knows? We certaintly dont, but that surrogate knew. She couldve set up an entire plan, this couldve been a result of incest from the biological parents. Sounds crazy right? But it can happen, it happens on the daily. Since she is here though and the surrogate cant change her mind i hope she gets the care she needs and that hopefully the kids arent as cruel.
Not me. She was willing to break the rules of the contract despite knowing the rules from the beginning. This shows her selfishness from the get-go. Not surprising that she was willing to break her “religious convictions” for five more thousand dollars. A low life is a low life.
Whether to get an abortion or not WAS her choice to make. It's her body and still her right to decide what to do with it. No surrogacy contracts can force a woman to have an abortion if she doesn't want to, or to keep a pregnancy when she wants to get an abortion. I don't feel too comfortable about the choice she made to give the baby up for adoption. It was probably necessary due to the baby's medical needs and she obviously doesn't have the money to cover that. But perhaps she could have let the intended parents meet the baby and see if they'd change their mind, and give her up if they didn't.
TheYasmineFlower She signed a contract though and probably already took money off them. I bet they didn't see any of that money back. And the parents did try get custody of the baby after she was born but she sold her out for adoption.
Sola - I understand where your coming from, but I believe that every one that is given a life, was given a life for a reason, even if they will suffer, I don’t think that it’s right to take their life away.
lfutrell82 I wasn’t. I get the whole pro life thing but not when you are forcing it on other people. She made a major parental decision on a fetus that was neither genetically or legally tied to her. She agreed to be used for her fertility, not her morals. But I see where she claims to be coming from.
Katherine Olivero the baby was in her womb. You can't make her go through the medical procedure if she doesn't want to. I'm pro choice myself, that includes the choice to not have an abortion.
If she donated the egg then I totally get it but if it was the other woman’s egg she had no right to make that decision because the agreement was to only use her for her body.
AB BA not in this instance because she was receiving money for other people to use her body. “Rent” if you will. And because she did what she did, two people now have to live with the fact that their kid whom they don’t even get to claim has to live life with a huge disadvantage and disability. Because of that woman an innocent little girl will have to live with tainted experiences, including the fact the she will probably develop security issues, not just because the way she was born but because they will probably tell her that her parents didn’t want her because of the way she is. That woman made a selfish and money-hungry mess.
She countered!? She said she wasn’t going to let her be a forgotten disabled child. And that’s exactly what she was. She should be in charge of her medical bills.
Most disabled people aren't in pain or suffering, though. Only a small number of disabilities cause pain or suffering. Most just make people different. Most people with disabilities are about as happy or unhappy as any other person.
+Christina You don't have to be anti abortion to believe in a woman's control over her own body and what she does with it. In fact it's the basic premise the whole pro-choice movement is supposed to be based on.
Ruthmeli Charles i was never on her side, it wasn't her kid nor her choice, she is just a selfish bitch trying to milk more money out of desperate parents
How can you be on her side at any point of this story? She signed and agreed to a contract that the biological parents are 100% responsible for decision making and that she's nothing more than an incubator to a fetus who does not belong to her at all. She's a selfish, entitled idiot and she should be in jail for breech of contract.
I knw ppl dnt wanna hear this, but unless that kid is kept outta public view, that kids gonna commit suicide. I only say that because kids are cruel and they dnt care about birth defects they are only entertain by the fact that there is a freak in the class room. And if bully doesnt get to the kid the constant stares will, and as the final icing on the cake. Let pretend it grows up to be an adult. Who would marry her? Who would bring an adult with a clepf pallot, missing ear, who is slightly brain dead home to meet the fam. All her life if this girl is not bullied, then she will be pittied. I knw the women who saved this babys life would like to be viewed as a saint, but honestly I think she did this because since the parents wouldn't "pay up" she kept this baby so these parents can go on living knowing that they have a child in this world who will never stop suffering. There are alot of people here who believe abort is wrong, but I dnt think they really had a choice. They got to choose how their child will suffer either "in death" (abortion) or in life (bullying). This story just makes me sad...
Lianda360 just because she has brain/heart defects and a cleft face does not mean that the value of that little girls life should be decided upon the parents. I believe that life is a precious experience and taking that away from someone is just despicable. Plus, you don’t know for certain that she will be bullied or not married(like family.) There are some truly brilliant people out there that might have a big heart for her. And sure, she may have to struggle more due to her medical conditions, but that doesn’t mean that her life is going to be totally messed up the whole time. She can still have a happy and enjoyable life even though she has some medical conditions and may have to struggle a bit more.
If the surrogate was so intent on doing the 'right thing', why counter-offer? This sounds like she was simply after more money, but then took the martyr route when she couldn't get them to increase the termination fee.
Jo LAKE you do know it's not her fault the child was deformed right ? Thing unfortunately just happened. And yes people when they don't want to do something will throw out a sum of money that no one will pay for, she probably already knew that the two parents couldn't pay anymore then the give price. If any one is a horrible disgusting person are the parents because they were the one to throw out a sum of money to the lady to kill the child.
Heather Seyfried, you also have to consider that raising a child with severe disabilities is a big undertaking for parents. We don't know their situation and there are many factors you have to consider. They obviously wanted to have a child and there was no guarantee she would even be able to carry the child full-term give birth to a living baby. These were heartbroken people who had to make a devastating decision and the surrogate doesn't have a say in that. What was she going to do? Give birth, hand the baby over to the parents, and then say 'bye bye' and never see the child or the parents again? Never have to deal with the decision SHE chose to make?
maybe she wanted the parents to have no choice but let her decide for the baby. I think she really wanted to give the baby life. it affected her life and made her change states
Why no matter what the girl did the natural parents didn't feel like the baby was good enough to keep no matter what they had to go through to try to keep her she wasn't good enough she was deformed she couldn't let their friends look at her she can go to her beach parties are the clubs
It's a business transaction. However, I will say she's in the wrong. The biological parents have the right to make the decision not the surrogate. It's devestating for all concerned.
Well, to the previous reply, if God decides who lives and dies, he sucks at his job and should be fired. Or maybe people should just stop believing in harmful doctrines and use reason instead of religion. And to the comment I'm replying to, I say this: I don't condemn you for being so twisted as to claim that the biological parents should have the right or whatever. I don't condemn you because while your confusion and misguided moral compass has murderous implications, the average human has very little capacity to understand the incredibly enormous difference between something being of good moral value, and something seeming like it has this value only because it seems like mostly everyone else thinks so. And so I blame you along with each and every individual who has allowed this pathetic and unpalatable way of thinking to spread all over like a disease. It's so painfully consequential that our planet embraces the idea that killing babies while they are defenseless and tiny is anything other than psychotic and brutally twisted not to mention it should be the highest of crimes, is nothing less than catastrophic.
Exactly. People make me sick. This is a living being not a bloody defective car. I'm.glad she gave the baby a chance at life. The comments here disgust me.
Severe brain and heart problems that can only be partially treated by surgeries that could kill the baby... And then gives baby up for adoption... Our hero
Well how do you know that the adoptive parents couldn't afford the baby's medical care? Sometimes they don't tell everything in the video but yeah I agree that it was distasteful that she counteroffered to abort the baby for 15k!
But the biological parents wanted her to be killed. So she gives birth and puts baby up for adoption so in the end she wasn't personally killing the baby
@@ashleygillen1997 That's not "killing the baby". The baby would have died with 100% certainty if not for medical interventions we have at our disposal today. She will continuously be needing them throughout her life in order to stay alive. She will not lead a life anywhere close to the lives you or I lead in terms of quality. Nature sometimes makes mistakes (the baby's condition, not the baby herself) that are unforgivable, and doesn't let them continue to exist on its own. It's people who intervene with the course of nature. It's nature that wanted to kill the baby. If you really love someone, you'd spare them that kind of a "life".
@@ashleygillen1997 I rather give up my child then know I'm bringing them in a world were they will suffer for the rest of their life. You can't fault parents on not wanting to see their kids suffer.
no no the parents weren't being assholes they were trying to make sure that child wouldn't suffer it was their decision as the biological parents and she shouldn't have done what she did
I half agree. The baby is born now and the parents don't have to have anything to do with her. The baby also has a chance at a life now. The only reason I feel this was wrong was because she breached her contract. Morally speaking, she made the right choice in the end. Although it was only because they wouldn't pay her $15k for an. abortion.... but still. Baby's alive and has a family now.
As a 2x gestational carrier the parents and I both signed a contract and it was understood I was not willing to abort under any circumstance. I’m very thankful there was no reason to and the babies are healthy.
Eh, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is wrong to force a couple to have a child they would have adopted if they were able to get pregnant. It is wrong to force a woman to have an abortion. And the surrogate finding an adoptive family for the baby is better than being left to the state
Maigodseki Why? She wants her to have a good live and knows that she doesn't have the resources to give her everything she needs. And it's not like she just gave the baby up for adoption. She said she don't want her to get lost in the system and that she found a family for her.
She's an awesome person, she only gave the baby up for adoption because she had very little money. She WANTS the baby to have the BEST LIFE POSSIBLE, and that would be with a family that has financial means. I think the mother is incredible and brave. What she did for this baby is awesome, this little girl is adorable and acts like any other baby it's age. Despite being very poor, she refused all that money to abort the baby. She's not the bitch, the original people who paid her to have the baby in the first place then abandoned the baby are terrible.
She was willing to abort if the couple increased their offer from $10,000 to $15,000...She ended up having a baby with "severe brain and heart problem" that require *risky* surgeries to fix...She is so not awesome.
Maigo D. Seki she didn't have to keep the baby bc anyways at the end of the day it wasn't her baby biologically but she fought for that baby's life, to give that baby a chance to live and that's better than killing a human being. For what it's worth she can have abnormal life is she gets the care that she needs
@@jetnight88 she was there baby but they didn’t wish to bring a child into the world to suffer… Kelly decided against that.. only to abandon her a few months later.
So she gave a fetus a lifetime of problems because "she would still bring other people joy" by effectively kidnapping it and carrying it to term. And somehow this is a happy ending to the story? Talk about sympathy for the devil. She broke a contract trying to shake down the parents, she broke the law, and she committed a child to a lifetime of suffering and somehow I'm supposed to feel proud of this psycho? This is insane.
Kevin Renner She kidnapped a fetus and held it for ransom. You act like saying don't intentionally give a person a lifetime of hardship based on selfish morals and greed is somehow synonymous with kill disabled people because their useless. Which isn't what I said or implied. >.>
liberals: her body her choice. Also liberals: how dare she have that child who has mental disabilities. She was offered the money and negotiated. She did not hold it for ransom.
Kevin Renner it is her body her choice but IT ISNT HER BABY so it ISNT her choice. That poor baby is gonna suffer throughout life. Go through many painful surgeries and stuff so it’s just cruel to keep the baby here. And she did technically kidnap the baby she took it out of state when the law was already after her
many babies who have learning and physical disabilities have lived fairly fruitful lives. Who do you have the judgment of enforcing eugenics on someone? The more you leftist talk about abortion on children who have learning disabilities is beginning to show you truly are the fascist. Oh, by the way, how is it a baby? I thought you leftist believed it wasn't a "baby." Is it all of a sudden a baby when this happens? It sounds like you need to get your priorities straight here.
Surrogates need to be carefully vetted, not just before the pregnancy but throughout the gestation. Facial deformities occur in the first trimester, with drug use being a possible cause. I am not saying this woman wad a drug user, but I am advocating for stringent background checks and vigilant health monitoring throughout the pregnancy.
She didn’t care about that baby, she was in it for the money. I wouldn’t be surprised if the adoptive family she found paid her for the baby. If the baby’s parents said they’d give her up for adoption, why run with the baby, only to give the baby up for adoption yourself anyways. I’d want her charged for kidnapping.
Exactly. She's pretending to be all self righteous to the cameras, but her actions were nothing but greed. I too believe that she sold the baby to the adoptive parents.
@Promise You She ran with the baby and delivered without their knowledge. That’s what the whole video was about. They obviously wanted a child. They wanted a “healthy,” child. When they found out the baby would have complications and the severity of those complications, they decided to terminate because they felt their daughter wouldn’t have a good quality of life. They had every right to do that. I’m not here to judge them for that! My issue is with the surrogate because first of all, that’s not your baby, so it’s not supposed to be your choice. But I’d understand if she didn’t have her selfish motives. When the surrogate didn’t get the amount of money she requested to terminate. The parents told her, THEY WOULD give the baby up for adoption. Meaning they wanted to choose the proper family. Maybe they would’ve wanted an open adoption, who knows! They surrogate claimed she didn’t like that idea and ran while pregnant with their child. She claimed she bonded with the baby and didn’t want them getting rid of her! Only for the same women who claimed she ran because she cared to much to terminate or have the baby adopted .......... To turn around and have her adopted anyways. Meaning she made the arrangements, chose the family and most like charged the family for the baby. IT WAS ABOUT WAS MONEY for her, not the baby! 🤦🏽♀️
Cristina Bergara It’s her body but it’s not her baby. She kidnapped another mother’s child and then wanted the mother to pay her for the right to her own child.. When the mother refused and tried to compromise she ran away and decided to give the child away.
Anything I've read about Surrogacy is that if your considering being a surrogate you must understand that the baby your carrying is not yours and that the couple whos baby your carrying may have different moral standards than yours. You may be against abortion the couple may be okay with it. This woman may need to rethink being a surrogate after this.
Tucna Fucna who gives a shit about contracts what the fuck its not right to kill and commit murder on a defenseless baby what the hell is wrong with you ppl saying its ok to abort.
Tucna Fucna With all due respect, we aren't talking about things and contract but people, particularly a baby and a contract. Sure the BM signed a contract but she is the person who is carrying the child in her body. She is a person not a robot where you dictate who and what. If we have come to a point where we view people and surrogacy as contracts and surrogacy is about demands on a human being about a human being and their rights, or getting money for the right type of baby then it is probably best that surrogacy becomes illegal like other countries because it actually is human trafficking.
Tucna Fucna the baby is part of her body...she is feeding the baby and taking care of it, contract or not, respect or not, morally what she did was right, she didn’t kill a child just because the “other” parents disliked that the child had birth defects. This is a sad story all in all. How would one feel if they were told their parents asked for them to be aborted because the parents disliked the way they looked or how they functioned, that person would feel terrible and unloved. It’s almost a form of discrimination if you think about it. And you don’t know the specifications do you? Now I only know a little about the this process, but from a normal person looking at this woman, views points aside, I would say she loved what she was carrying inside her enough to realize that just because the baby is deformed, the baby deserved life. That, I feel, was a very human and beautiful thing to do, even if it was against the law.
It’s not her child so she didn’t care if the baby suffered and died, looks like the surrogate did it out of spite. Michigan need to change their laws! What an awful money hungry surrogate!
*" she needs risky surgeries just to survive and live a still sucky life but she can grab at toys so oh well this women is a hero now "* lmao no she isn't. She signed a contract and then broke it. "I didn't want this baby to be forgotten in the system" **puts the baby up for adoption**
I don’t understand why the contract matters. I don’t care what the contract says, you can’t just kill that baby because you don’t like how she turned out
@@quinngrey8916 you don't understand why the contract "matters"? Then you don't understand the concept of contractual law I guess. A contract is a legally binding document and there are civil and criminal penalties for violating its terms - that's the law. If you don't like any aspect of the agreement, including any of the potential consequences should there be a violation, then don't sign it! It's the same argument that pro-lifers love to make, if you don't like one of the potential consequences of intercourse (i.e. pregnancy) then don't enter into the contract (i.e. have sex). This woman not only broke the law by violating her contract, she literally demanded a $15K ransom payment in exchange for having an abortion - why would someone so ostensibly committed to giving life to this child entertain ANY monetary offer?
Sarah Riedel that is indeed odd that she asked for 15,000. However, I don’t care what a contract says, if it goes against your morals, such as if it instructs you to kill the baby inside you, who cares if it’s a contract? A piece of paper shouldn’t have any say in whether a child dies or not. Who cares what a paper says if a life is at stake?
In her contract it says the family holds the right to abort. She didn't have to sign it or carry their baby but she took that risk and had no objections. That's something surrogates discuss beforehand with the family. When they didn't pay her extortion price she fled the state. The family probably already paid her a big chunk and tens of thousands in medical bills for the insemination. I bet she don't plan to return their money though. So get outta here with that moral high ground bs because its crap.
Kitty A So you would rather take a child’s life then have someone who can’t have kids have joy in your life because of this baby last time I checked abortion is murder it’s legal murder disguised as a woman’s right and actually if you go into the origins of abortion it is pretty much child sacrifice when you abort a child you’re sacrificing your child to a deity
Having a vegetable as a kid would cost tons of money in the long run. Why bring a child into this world if you know they won’t have a good quality of life? Living in a wheel chair their whole life, unable to communicate or do things for their self. Having to be dependent on someone their whole life and always being a burden, doesn’t that sound lovely?
glitterandglitz1 Everyone knows abortion is murder, but women do it anyway so what can we do about that? The woman knew everything that would come with on that contract, whether the baby was healthy or not they could've asked for an abortion and she and the family would have discussed this beforehand as well, for her to just take the money and run off to Michigan is in the wrong too
I have a special needs child. It is amazing what love can do. I was told to give him up for adoption. I refused. Except for a speech problem. Everybody loves my son. He’s the best thing God have me. I am honored to be his mother. Why do people not really understand what love truly is? We are so disposable, we don’t realize that in the end we all are going to die. Even the geniuses, the wealthy. A society’s ability to see strentgth is it’s different populations is the most advanced society. You want to know the secrets of the Universe? Learn to communicate with those you deem too frail to live. They are stronger biometrically than you rhink. We are only beginning to unlock how they understand our earth.
What is the point? The baby survived, is loved and the birth parents didn't have to take care of her exactly as they wished. Seems like people just want to kill babies and find problems even when everything had the best outcome possible.
@@c.n.p.657 The problem is that the parents didn't want to deal with a baby that had so many physical health problems, heart defects, a cleft lip, and palate, and a misshapen head and ear that can be corrected with surgery. If she hadn't taken her kids and the baby and moved to Michigan the birth parents would have had the right to have her abort the pregnancy.
@@CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue but the "parents" DIDNT have a baby w "all those problems" shooot the woman didnt even carry the baby... A diff woman carried the baby and a diff family happily took the baby in w open arms knowing and willing to care for the way the baby came out. You dont kill someone bc its gonna be an inconvenience to you to help them... I wish yall knew how much God loved you bc man to think that way is sad
@@c.n.p.657 I know but the people who wanted this baby donated their egg and sperm and implanted the embryo inside this woman. If she had stayed where she was the people that she was being a surrogate to would have had the right to determine what happened to this little girl. But because she moved to Michigan she knew that the baby would be safe and be placed with people who would be able to pay for her medical care.
Jennifer Sihandri how so the baby life is pain that kid has to have surgery after surgery just to live and most like isn’t going to live long that woman was just self they should know they already had 3 children with disabilities.
taylor redmond that's not ur decision JFC You are not God. You don't have the right to say who lives and who dies. First it's a disabled kid, next it's the elderly, the unborn, then assisted suicide of kids, then physically disabled people, etc etc Think of poor alfie Evans Would u say the same for a kid in a wheelchair too?
Jennifer Sihandri no because they have have their whole brain. I’m not saying I’m god I’m saying I have a heart. She will never have what the other kids have so will never be like you and me. But if people want to kill them selfs I guess we do need to get out the weak mind.
So she essentially held on to the suffering baby in the hopes the distraught parents would give her $15000? What an evil human. How is she not in prison for all this?
Hold on here. She countered for $15,000. Her entire speech about "she had a fighting spirit and she wanted to fight for her," is complete bullshit. She was will to kill the baby, for the right price. It's like the old Winston Churchill quote, “Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?" Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... " Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?" Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!" Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”
😂😂😂 Not true though. I wouldn't have sex with anyone for $10,000. I haven't had sex since my Husband died three years ago. Now, if someone offered me 5 million, I'd throw all my pride away and think of my children's lives and futures. I'd go right back to celibacy right after.
You're missing the entire point, Jessica. The point is that if there is ANY dollar figure that would persuade you to have sex with a person you otherwise wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, then that itself makes you meet the definition of a prostitute.
*Naw* keds... I've never taken money for anything unless it was my Husband, and he *owned* me so that's not a hooker. I'd only do it if the amount would change my childrens' lives. If he was crazy gross I still wouldn't do it. He'd have to be clean, disease free, intelligent, at least taller than me. No way am I banging some gross dude. Puke!
I disagree. If he is your husband because of the money he spends on you, you still are a hooker. You'd just be a subscription hooker instead of a pay-as-you-go hooker.
That is true and that is why I said that 99.99999% of people would do it. I'm not sure if you noticed, but what you just said, is the exact point of the original joke
This child’s entire life was full of pain. The surrogate was self righteous and now a whole human had to endure a life probably not worth living so she could be right. No we don’t agree with what you did
How do you know the baby had a miserable life how do you know the baby didn't get excellent care and had two beautiful parents that loved her and hugged her and kissed her and took over and made her laugh and read books to her and put her to bed how do you know she had a miserable life because she didn't look perfect like you
@@marleymescudi no one understands the pain that child must have gone through but I also know that that child was loved she laughed she was held in her mama's arms was read to I don't believe her life was pure hell the whole time
@@cynditompkins8646 No child should have to go though that pain both physical and the emotional of knowing they can die any day and will never grow up. It all could have been avoided if it weren't for a selfish adult.
Perhaps she thought about it during the rest of her pregnancy and ended up deciding that it was for the best that way? With the baby's medical needs, she probably did it because she couldn't afford to pay for the baby's medical procedures, whereas she might have found a loving pre-adoptive home that could. I think the biological parents should have been given consideration, though, to get her. Who knows, maybe they would have decided against giving her up if they had met her as a baby.
Vilonious Lee Nope she wanted to sell the baby on for money. She wouldn't have made anything if they got the baby back. And people are allowed to change their minds also. The surrogate did and considered the abortion for 15 000 remember so don't act like a hypocrite. Once the child was born the couple obviously felt differently about the baby so don't tell lies. The surrogate is a money hungry liar who kidnapped a baby because in the state they were already in she wouldn't have been considered the mother since the contract she signed was legally binding in that state so she left and sold the baby because she didn't want her either.
Wait ..the kid had defects, so in the woman's mind it's okay for the kid to enter the world with those defects and suffer. Nobody is even asking the real question.. . How those defects came about in the first place?
Life is pain. We cannot separate life and pain, they go together. To decide someone's life should be terminated because they are or will be in pain in pain is not right. Life is still worth it despite the pain
Noname Noname with those defects? There’s a fat chance she average will grow up. And if she does? And she says she wishes she were never born because her life has been nothing but pain and suffering? Then who’s the dick.
Noname Noname did you know that the parents wanted to child back after birth (and after that dickass woman ran away with the child, wanting 15k $ instead of 10k $) but the woman gave it up for adoption? She was an evil woman
That's fucked up I'm sorry, the parents told her they did not want to bring a child in this world just to ultimately suffer and die young and she was so selfish that she had the baby and PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION? Are you kidding me?? Everyone's gonna say "well what's wrong with that" everything. You don't have someone else's incredibly sick child just to give them to fucking strangers without biological parents permission. That's so wrong on so many levels. And yes while some adoptive families are great others aren't, I would know, been there done that. Poor child. What a dumb selfish woman.
She didn’t get pregnant with the intention of raising the baby. I personally have more of an issue with the bio parents wanting to now play parents of yr once they realized the baby isn’t as bad off as they thought she was going to be.
andie361 Thompson hey, theyre her parents, and she still isnt well off. It wasnt the surrogates decision to make, its not like shes a her for making a child suffer
As much as I'm not really for abortion, this woman knew what she signed up for. She knew that if that if the child were to have medical issues the parents wanted the child aborted, but because of her beliefs and selfish reasons she gave birth to the child. She obviously has major abnormalities and they said she'll have to get several surgeries that she'll most likely not survive yet this woman was selfish and gave birth to the child knowing that the poor child will suffer.
Chase Cooper do some research about how abortion actually happens and what it feels like for the baby yes when most abortions are conducted the baby is in fact old enough to feel pain
Wolfgirl 666 actually YOU should do you research- fetal demise is ensured before the procedure starts- meaning the thing is dead before it ever knows it was alive- meaning it literally feels nothing like a corpse during autopsy.
Siillaarriel That is absolutely false. The abortion procedure is what kills the baby. The ripping of its limps or the saline solution burning the baby alive. And many babies have been born alive after the abortion didn’t kill them. Most abortions are barbaric.
Chase Cooper here's the thing..no one knows what this child may accomplish with her life. Didabled people dont deserve death sentenfes before they even have lived. My god!
There's nothing worse than an evil person pretending that they are doing an "honorable" thing. By refusing to do her job under contract, fleeing her state, and bring a child into the world against their parent's wishes, she has committed an act of utter evilness.
nhendrych You have to understand that the surrogate mother isn’t supposed to intervene between the biological parents wishes. Surrogates aren’t supposed to be attached or responsible for the child. The biological parents never wanted their child to be suffering her whole life, so they tried as early as they could to abort. The surrogate went against those things and gave the burden and responsibilities to adoptive parents. She even tried to make the biological parents pay a lot more money for the procedure, who showed that the surrogate didn’t put much value into her birthed child.
Thankful Square So you kill a child because it’s going to be crippled because it was some doctor says there was one story I know what the doctor told the mother to abort to her twinsAnd the doctor said that they had severe defects and all these things and she refused to abort the babies the babies actually came out normal
glitterandglitz1 Shes done the most cruel things possible by bringing a child into the world knowing that they would suffer potential health problems.Probably knowing the family's and her own medical histories,and the risks that could be posed on this poor soul.Now this child- will forever suffer. Because of some woman's stupid quest to righteousness.Because she didn't have the brain cells to think this all the way through.She is a disgrace to humanity.
Henry the Hen You don't smile when you are suffering? Oh buddy do I got news for you,at that age her physical havent yet affected her emotional state.Wait until she grows up and realizes that this health conditions arent going away,and are there to torture her for life.Cue in bouts of depression,not to mention the on going physical pain and restrictions that would prevent her from participating in life,and activities like her peers.Did you know that suicide rates are extremely high in disabled people? You must not be very educated or a disabled person yourself,seeing how ignorant you are.God give me the confidence of a mediocre man.So no,they did not do this child any favors by keeping it alive,they forced it into this world knowing it possible suffering,and that is a form of torture.
It's THEIR baby, if they want the surrogate, that THEY hired, to abort then the surrogate should abort. The baby has to have multiple surgeries and cost taxpayers a fortune over her lifetime. She committed breach of contract and should be held responsible for it.
If it's THEIR body, then they should have it inside THEIR body. If they physically can't, well that's too bad. This whole story shows why surrogacy is a bad idea. A contract doesn't give you the right to determine what happens to or inside someone else's body.
Rebecca Hicks the whole point of the contract is she is signing over her Rights to the baby. Obviously if she wasn’t cool with abortion then she shouldn’t have signed the contract. She is in the wrong 100%. Complete fake hero.
Tyler G no, the chance was very low, that there would be actual health problems and she probably did sign the contract because she desperately needed the money and didn't think of the possibility that the baby will have health problems :/ and thinking about abortion when you are not pregnant is a whole lot different than thinking about abortion when you are not, just think about all the hormones, so it's totally okay if a woman changes her mind about getting an abortion as soon as she is pregnant...a f*cking contract can't change a pregnant womans feelings
It depended on what state she was in at the time of the birth whether or not the baby was the surrogate mother Krystal Kelly was the baby's legal mother. Because she choose to relocate to Michigan she was the child's mother at the time of the birth. Krystal Kelly as a single mother was unable to care for the child's expensive medical needs but she did find an adoptive family who wanted to. The original intended parents had said they did not wish to have this child. The baby was featured in the video while she has abnormalities and certainly by now has had many surgeries to correct them the baby was not suffering.
Ok so what are you going to do about it? Are you going to call the Abortion Police to hold this screaming woman down and abort the child inside her again her will? Is that the type of world you want to live in? No? Then hush.
Mesmer ASMR it's not her egg nit her sperm so the embryo wasn't hers. She was willing to abort for more money and she can actually go to jail because it's considered kidnapping. She has zero rights to what happens. She's just the carrier not the mother.
Maybe they didn’t want their DNA having to go through a lifetime of surgeries and never having a real childhood, and to also be in the system. No matter what their dna was adopted.
Maybe anything was possible and anything could have happened to the DNA when they use the surrogate. And they didn't want to have that possibility they shouldn't have used a surrogate. Easy facts quit being a stupid fucktard , selfish ass
Happy Emoji No she didn’t. She signed a contract stating she would abort the child if any genetic conditions diminished its quality of life. After the parents told her to get an abortion, she raised the asking price saying she would do it for 15 grand, instead of the initial 10. The parents said no. She went to off to essentially give the baby to the highest bidder. After the birth the parents expressed that they wanted the child back and she basically ignored their request and sold it off. This woman is a hypocrite.
Ashley Aka-Mensah She’s definitely an evil person for using this condition to gain money and then act like she wanted to keep the baby because of being morally against abortion. If she was thinking for that baby and if she had an ounce of goodness in her heart, she would’ve aborted the fetus. If she was against abortion, she would’ve given the baby to it’s biological parents. Clearly, we are seeing an evil person that’s acting so good and caring.
Rita N did you not here in the video when they mentioned multiple times that she was already a struggling single mother? She would not have been able to afford all of the babies medical costs and surgeries
People slamming this woman for setting up the baby for adoption rather than aborting her is RIDICULOUS! She gave this baby a chance at a life, gave her birth when her own biological parents wanted her dead. It is "no mercy" to abort an unborn child because of a disability, just as it is no mercy to put a disabled adult "out of misery" by murdering him. As for 15k, the woman clearly says she regretted that counter offer; the financial pressures of being a single mom made her say this, but only momentarily. No matter your stance on abortion, this woman let this disabled girl LIVE and that's fact!
If I were naturally pregnant with a baby with heart and brain conditions that severe, I would have chosen to have an abortion for the sake of the baby; life's too hard even for people with mild medical conditions.....
I dont see it that way. I see it as not bringing a child into this world to only make it a few months in. I believe in happieness witha disabled child, but I also believe in your life being over when you have a child thats as disabled as this little girl. The child cant help it, but the parents cant either. People may not have to time/room/money to provide for a disabled child. A lot of care and time goes in to children like her. I dont blame the parents. Its not their fault. They didnt ask for this. Its sad but there is no one to blame in this story except the surrogate. Why not abort a baby that will never see a day like a normal person. Why would you let a child suffer like that and let it die within the first few years on earth? Thats not fair.
Yentl Van Breugel human beings suffer during abortion too, if they are at the gestational stage to see the disabilities this baby had, the baby was old enough to feel pain. Certainly everyone doesn't have the time/room/money to provide for a disabled child. For some reason, however, there are thousands of people who adopt these children and don't think of them on a level of dogs or cats to be terminated at will, for health reasons. I realize that even completely normal human babies are terminated for any reason though. I think disabled people who see this story would be surprised that so many "normal" people think their parents have a right to end their lives, shouldn't have the right to pursue happiness
Everyone is like oh yay she didn't abort. Yeah cool, but the only reason is because the family didn't want to pay her an additional 15 grand on top of w.e. they had already paid out. Especially when she signed a contract beforehand saying she had no objections to abortion. So while I wish the baby girl well, I see right through that lying surrogate.
Kitty A Exactly. It was all about the money. The surrogate isn't a hero. She doesn't care about the baby and didn't even keep the child. She signed that document and fled to another state when she didn't get the money she asked for.
Thats So Alice But it's not her child and therefore not her decision to make. Besides the parents said they would put her through adoption. Then the woman runs off with the child and does it anyway. What is the point of her getting all this money to have a child and then running off and making decisions for the child when she's not even the parent?
The bio parents wanted the baby dead. She loved the baby to let the baby live and gave the baby to a loving family able to deal with her special needs. Use common sense ❤
What a horrible woman! That poor kid suffered for the 8 years of her life and then passed. The evil woman was going to abort for 15k so this was no noble cause she was fighting for, she was being vindictive.
And this is why you have lawyers and a very detailed contract with situations like this. While I don’t necessarily agree with the biological parents to abort, it should be their right to state what they want in the best interest of their child. The surrogate is only the person giving birth to that child by contract.
Leaha Rene While this woman is clearly disingenuous & selfish, the state can't force her to abort the child that she is carrying. The ethical choice in this situation would have been to follow the contract that she agreed to, but I think people that are using surrogates need to be mindful of the fact that the surrogate is carrying the baby & she will be susceptible to the hormonal changes & the bonding that comes from carrying a child. I don't think this happened in this situation, since the surrogate had no problem aborting for a higher price, but again, the state can't force her to abort & people hiring surrogates need to be cognizant of this fact & understand that a clause forcing the mother to abort in certain situations would not be enforced in the U.S.
I know that people have strong opinions about abortion, but I think that pregnancy, life, death, and illness are extremely complicated. And it's a choice of who will suffer. A child with severe defects or a woman with guilt.
OMG YES personally I’m pro choice but I understand and respect people who are pro life just as long as they don’t force it on other people which is exactly what she was doing.
they actually did have a contract but it was only legal in the state they were in (i don't remember the state) which is why the surrogate went to michigan because the contract didn't apply there
Leaha Rene Ghats her child regardless! It's a part of her, its not that easy to let go of a human being you've had inside you for 9 months. 9 FUCKING MONTHS
The problem with this story is that once they heard that the baby was being given up for adoption the biological parents wanted parental rights to the child, but they were denied because they used an egg from a donor instead of the 'mother'.
Also this baby had organs growing in the wrong places, two malfuntioning spleens, and NUMEROUS heart-problems TO NAME A FEW of the things that was wrong with her including a problem with her BRAIN. I can't say I blame the biological parents for wanting an abortion so the child wouldn't SUFFER. The surrogate is a bitch who breached the contract with the parents, ran away, refused to accept 10 000 dollars for taking the abortion (saying it was against her reliogon yet that she'd do it for 15 000 before changing her mind again) and then she gave the baby up for adoption because she couldn't afford to raise the child herself (money was the reason she became a surrogate in the first place). I am happy the baby is with someone who'll actually care for her, but the baby COULD have gone back to the biological parents, but for STUPID reasons they can't have her back. Despite the donor-egg the biological father is still the biological father! And they WANTED her back too!
MovieManiac33 I meant that it's better to abort a child before they're capable of feeling pain, rather than forcing them to live with it after birth. Can you honestly imagine what kind of life this child now has? And still say the surragate did the right thing? I honestly can't. Also, I'm not going to pretend to know what went through the surragate's mind during all of this and i'm not going to re-watch the video just for that. At the time i did however get the impression that she only kept the baby for money. I admit now that i may have been overly judgemental, but that doesn't change the fact that i don't agree with her decition not to have an abortion. That baby has so many medical-problems that i can't imagine he/her still being alive, or what kind of life he/she lives through if they are. And honestly, since you sort of brought it up, i'm uncertain about topics such as people who order aid to die because they can't live with whatever medical problems they have, but those people at the very least make that decition for themselves. I don't know how old this child would be by now, if their alive at all, but if the adoptive parents are keeping him/her alive UNNECESSARILY just for their own sake then maybe they should start thinking about what they would've wanted if they were in this child's situation.
MovieManiac33 I do believe i admitted that i may have been wrong and overly judgemental at the time, or did you just ignore that so you could argue with me? Besides it's been i-dont'-know-how-long since i watched this and i honestly can't remember what i thought or felt at the time so i'm not going to continue this discussion any further. I stand by what i said, but i admit that i might not be logical about something i wrote on an angry whim a long time ago. I still stand by what i said, but i know it might not have come across the way i wanted to so if it's easy to misunderstand i apologize for that. I'm not going to change my mind about disagreeing with the surragate's final decition about not aborting the child, but i doubt you're going to change yours either so i won 't waste my time. Goodbye P.S. I feel like i should explain that i wrote what i did based on my habit of expecting the worst which in this case is that the child is dead or in a vegetative state only kept alive by artificial life-support or something. It's not logical, i know, but that's what i'm expecting.
Aly A The biological parents wanted to end the suffering BEFORE it could even begin. In my eyes that child was used as a personal game to gain more money. Now, the poor little thing has been put up for adoption. Unwanted by her surrogate and denied parental rights from her biological parent. not only that but with heart and brain problems! The odds are endless for little tot but now that it's set and done I only wish the best for the kid...
Linda Christiansen so you are saying that your parents could kill you without your consent if you faced severe compliactions like this. after all the only difference between a fetus and the people in the comment section is that it cant voice out what is its decision.
Was I the only one waiting for her to say she adopted the child. Girl you did all this, as if her knight on a white horse, then you give her away???!!? She should be prosecuted if you ask me. The little girl lived the miserable short life her actual parents wanted to avoid for her. Smh🙄
+Lovedance Channel That poor child is never going to live a normal life and has a high chance of dying in these risky surgeries... as bad as it sounds it would have been in her best interest to save that child from all that suffering
Looking at the comment this human produced is depressing. Let's just kill her. 🙄 You're a heartless human being. The pro abortion movement is so full of crap and has no moral argument that makes any sense. You're all idiots.
Electronz- Clash royale and more Why? I mean, it looks like if you were saying not having different kids is a better option than to teach everybody to respect and to love people.
This story makes no sense because she refused to abort the baby even after being offered 10K but then she countered at 15K? While I'm trying to wrap my head around this situation and look at the positive side because the little baby girl was born, I still feel making a counter-offer on the baby's life is wrong. Once she has surgery for her cleft lip and some cosmetic surgery she will look beautiful and I am hoping her heart condition can be resolved. I hope she never views this story because it makes me sick. If you want to give a baby life then don't come back with an financial offer to abort.
I thought it was her body her rules. Like fathers have nothing to say just because the kid is biologically theirs too. Feminism only when convenient...
@@allwhatilove914 huh? Who said anything about feminism. I just said it's their child genetically so they should be in charge. I think you are projecting on me O __ O
@@bascal133 its still her body , you cant force a women to get a abortion against her will . with your logic a man can force a women to not get a abortion because its his genetics .
This is so sad The biological parents didn't want their baby to suffer 😭 The neurologist and cardiologist told them their baby would live with a painful condition and she will pass away regardless ☹️ Krystal Kelley had no right to make any decisions she was just the incubator This couple used their frozen embryos it was their baby and their decision to make and instead their child lived for 8 years suffering in pain with serious health complications 😥
@Promise You Depends on the state and theres contracts involved theres a reason she had to move to Michigan in order to have the baby. So no she didn't have rights in the state they were in.
She LIVED 8 years and only died 1 day. Baby girl, you are not forgotten people still talk about you, still debate over YOUR story, still today you are making a splash. I'm so glad that you were born . Seraphina you were worth it all, sweet girl !
“She found a couple to adopt her”… After the $15,000 counter offer to have an abortion ….you seriously think this lady didn’t offer this baby up to the highest bidder! Greed! I Quality of life is important…heart issues and bran damage doesn’t equate “quality”
its against her religion to abort but she said she'd do it IF they give her 15000.....money hungry
She said she felt bad about that
Uyei Julani right? Talk about being a sell out
Uyei Julani If she did not counter offer, I would praise her. As of now, she brings a child into this world that would cost taxpayers.
Uyei Julani I thought it meant 15.000 to get to keep it.
UK youtube : can you give me a scripture in the bible for that? because i always wondered
Such a fake hero.
D.O Kyungsoo ikr?
How?
D.O Kyungsoo ikr
Aiden H she wanted an extra 5 grand for the abortion. They wouldn’t give it to her. That’s when she decided she was “morally against it”. She literally signed a contract stating the parents wanted the pregnancy terminated if the child had birth defects significantly affecting quality of life. She agreed to it then broke the law because she couldn’t get as much money out of the couple as she wanted. She didn’t give a shit about the baby
Kaecey the panda Exactly how I see it.
" I don't believe in abortion"
...but for 15k you can change my mind. How fitting.
I know right
And she's being touted like a Saint on here lol
Lol funny how they just kinda skipped over that 😭😂
The fact that she still got out of it shows something. Everybody is tempted to ride on the easy road. One becomes different when you choose to take a turn. She did that rather than giving up. I think that shows we can resist temptations.
Hypocrisy at its finest. Then she gave the child, that she supposedly had this “bond” with, away! Unbelievable.
The little girl passed away on July 15, 2020 at 8 years old. RIP little Seraphina 💕
Dam rip
Did you know if the baby led a well cared for life?
:-// poor baby
@@halleyloafs2095 from what I read she lived a really good and happy life with a lot of siblings who adored her
@@mya3965 she had 8 years on this earth full of love & that is the most important thing. It’s sad that she died @ age 8 but at least she was loved & well cared for
Breaking a contract, negotiating for more money and fleeing persecution. Who's on the moral high ground here?
MovieManiac33 She was negotiating for more money... So she put money above the child. You just failed really hard.
It says so in the video, two times. You should watch it before commenting.
MovieManiac33 She claimed that. But I don't believe people who break contracts, extort people for more money and steal babies. Neither should you. :) If you do that, you're naive.
In case you haven't noticed, you just said, it's okay to break the law. No, it's not. That's my and your obligation to society. And, a fetus isn't a human being yet, stop claiming it is. Go look up the definition of human being.
I'm perfectly justified in claiming the moral high ground. I'm not extorting people, stealing babies or saying "it's ok to break the law". No, no, no.
+AntareFY You are absolutely not the definition of a human being. You're the definition of dog shit.
sooooooo for 15 grand she would have done it? she signed a contract stating if there was a medical problem she would abort and she broke that agreement because of money. she's no hero.
Linda K. Do you not understand a contract? She would’ve done it for 15 grand lmao get off your high horse, she just wanted money
I think he means the actual contract signed when agreeing to be a surrogate. The people paying all her bills pretty much have the say as if it was theirs. Meaning, usually the parents adopting can choose an abortion if there are medical issues.
I didnt know she broke the contract! I thought it was just an unexpected result and she acted a fool. Now ik shes an evil person wow
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She said maybe she will do it for 15k but yup she's selfish
dg Wiley the world would be less without here... lol bruh the world wouldn’t know she’s gone...
“I’m not gonna let her be one of those forgotten disabled kids” but you would’ve for 15k?🤔
Listen to the video again. That was addressed. Do you think the psychological and emotional toll on her, had she gone through with it, doesn't justify $$ for therapy afterward? The toll on her body alone is worth more than 60K imo.
They told Her to be "God like" and end the pregnancy. This woman was already a single mom she just sorta cancelled her contract because the baby had some health issues. A cute baby who is going to have a great life in the right home.
Bless that baby girl, in hopes she does live a long life despite the odds like lots of children have when parents have been told they wouldn't stand a chance from the tests they did prenatal
@@nanak5890 yes ❤️ you did a great job explaining a common event in American eugenic medicine, misdiagnosis that are used to push abortion. Not only that, in the north there is public health insurance so even with the fact you Can get an abortion up to full term , if you decide not to you can be sure your child gets the fullest medical attention necessary to take care of their issues. Scaring poor uneducated and rural people by saying their baby will not survive is just a tactic to normalize abortion... It will never be normal for humans to behave like animals in those ways.
@@Well_possibly oh shut up. That baby was too sick, she just wanted money
@@Catsss1017 if that were true she would have taken the $10,000
Got to praise the couple who adopted the baby knowing the medical costs involved with her health issues.
Yup!
@K Maxx They were the adoptive family NOT the foster family.
@K Maxx Not in the US. We don't have a universal system. Tax payers don't pay for peoples medical care.
Maybe they’re in Canada or Australia and get it all for free
state will subsidize those costs
...And yet, Krystal Kelly gave up the child for adoption, because she didn't want the kid anyway...She's an absolutely repulsive human being.
cmdrkoenig67 : Having the child be born knowing there are health issues. Child is going to suffer.
cmdrkoenig67 With all the medical costs, and the fact that she's already a single parent, I doubt that she could afford to keep her. They did say that she would need several expensive surgeries.
It wasn’t ‘her’ baby to begin with. Like, technically it was the first couple’s baby. And she was a surrogate mom, so it’s not really surprising that she didn’t ‘want’ the baby after the birth. She was meant to carry it not keep it
cmdrkoenig67 her choice her problems, a baby is natures gift.
Totally repulsive of her. The Parents went into a contract for a normal baby with the option of terminating if there were any abnormalities. She is totally evil for bringing a baby into the world to suffer.
"I'm not going to let the baby be forgotten"; ,,,, but she would have aborted it for $15,000?
I'm side eyeing her for several reasons but having a weak,human lack of moral moment isn't one she's human baby
De Selby that’s sick
Before we're judgemental, let's consider the fact of WHY she became a surrogate to begin with (financial reasons), her self admittance of considering an abortion had she been offered $15,000, the fact that she changed her mind, continued the pregnancy without the ongoing financial aid, and found the baby the baby a safe loving home! It's hard to put yourself in the shoes of a stranger, but in this particular situation, I believe that the surrogate acted in such away that she felt she was doing the right thing, despite the initial agreements between herself and the biological parents! !Look at how beautiful the little girl is even though her body is not perfect, she is loved, she has value, and a chance at having a wonderful life!
Queen Cee it wasn't De Selby who said that...... that's what the woman said they offered her 10thousand 2 abort the baby & she upped that offer 2 15thousand but the couple refused so she was saying she's acting all mother Teresa up in here 🤣 bout saving this child's life, doin the right thing etc but if they had gave her the 15thousand you wouldn't be hearing about this story on the news..... 😂
@@jessicaribot2288 This child is and will continue to suffer no matter how much love is thrown her way. It is a hard fact.
so the parents didn’t want her to suffer , but she had the baby just to give her up for adoption ? wow...
@Promise You that’s not how it works ...if you want to move across state lines to give the baby a chance & take care of her , then sure ..but you don’t get an offer to abort the baby and then counter that offer for more ..now suddenly she wanted to cross into another state after her offer was declined ....she’s no saint . if she made that decision before trying to get more money to abort her , then it’s understood . but i can’t look at her like she made the decision because she wanted the baby to have a life , because that clearly wasn’t the case & probably did that out of spite to make the other individuals look bad after not giving her $15k... evidently she believe that baby life was only worth $15k when the life of that child is not worth any kind of money ..
@Promise You she had her just so she could suffer, ALONE. Her parents didn’t want that life for her. And not all parents are cut out for that kind of responsibility or life, and that should be their choice! I’m sure this was all put in the contract that the surrogate signed.
@@amirabrown2400 well said!
I would say the abortion process causes intense suffering
@@pattiadams2764 and i don’t disagree with you ..i’m not saying they are wrong or right for asking her to get an abortion . but them not wanting her to suffer due to the complications she was born with is understood , especially if she was in pain . i just feel like there’s a motive behind that decision & the motive is greed .
So she:
Signed a contract saying she’d get an abortion.
Agreed to get one for 15k.
Fled when she didn’t get the money.
Didn’t even keep the baby and gave her up for adoption.
The girl died at only 8 years old due to all her health complications.
AND YET SHES TAKING THE HIGH GROUND lol pleaseeee. She should be in jail.
She died from an infection not "due to all her health complications" but nice try. 8 years is still better than her being murdered before she even got the chance to enjoy life 🙄
@@secretwhispers9592 infection is a health complication 😀
@@lunasbix4338 an infection is something people go through every day. This person said due to ALL HER HEALTH COMPLICATIONS, implying the conditions she was born with. She didn't die from "all her health complications" She died because of an infection. Not the same thing in the slightest. 😁😁😁
Anyone can die with infection even those who are born healthy with no handicap.
Atleast her little spirit got to experience life. Period.
it was sweet until she countered with 15 grand.. she didn't care honestly and that kid will have a tough life
Alisha S as a kid with a great medical disease I think she was giving her best chance at life
Peridot Leader of the Crystal Gems Are you seriously impaired, youself? Will this so called "BEST CHANCE at life have any quality of life? Selfish, she was willing to abort, send that baby back to GOD for 5,000 more dollars!
Peridot Leader of the Crystal Gems The child has massive brain damage and has no quality of life. How is that fair to a person who is going to suffer their whole life.
Alisha S Next time watch the whole video before you comment.
Gaby Daily I watched the entire video.. she was willing to if they gave her 15k and when they said no she took off with the kid and gave it up
The parents aren't wrong, they aren't selfish. This woman just wants money.
N A. I agree
N A. Agree
I honestly completely agree with the parents. If you find out before the baby is born that they will have serious problems then there is no point in giving birth to the baby just to give it a miserable life full of bullying, hospitals, medication and the risk of dying.
There are tons of disabled kids who love a good life you are not the one who decides whether or not the baby has a horrible life
Language Lover It wasn't the surrogates egg. She had no biological link to the baby.
And the fact that the kid died at 8 breaks my heart.
❌Really? How did u know of that?
@@msladypmodel looked it up:(
Eight beautiful years.
@@cindybonem494 Punctuated by painful surgeries that dhe probably couldn't understand.
Yes. Very sad and painful years for the child.
The mom is just wanting money and wanted to act like a Saint
Real Saint was the couple that adopted her baby
Totally agree.
If she wanted money, she would have taken the 10k offered.
@@YA-qj8fx She offered higher to abort the baby. She wanted money
Getting mad at a woman because she didn't want to abort? I see you aren't precisely a Saint yourself.
Yep
But she ended up giving the baby up and and then the actual family heard about it and tried to get her back. For the love of god tell the whole story. She just wanted money
You are so right this is just messed up this women is disgusting
Sarah Jones Thank you!!! Omg
Putting a baby up for adoption isn't money-seeking. She never wanted the child, she just didn't want it to be killed.
Sarah Jones how did she just want money? She literally did not want to kill the baby and probably couldn’t take care of it herself!
+Sharyn T Agree
What I don't understand is that SHE GAVE THE BABY UP ANYWAY. After the "negotiations" the couple said they'd give the baby up. So, she decided to go to Michigan to GIVE THE CHILD UP instead??? Thirsty much???
Beth Roesch that’s exactly my thoughts
Beth Roesch sounds like she held was holding it hostage.
Beth Roesch not trying to give my opinion on the subject, but what i got from the video was her being morally against having an abortion for herself
Seems like she found someone willing to adopt the Baby herself, instead of letting the baby go into federal system. I don't think that the bio parents would have looked that hard for a good family for the baby.
"Giving up" is probably better than killing her.
Sadly the girl has died at age 8 :( but she did sem to have had a great life with a loving family.
Thank-you for the update. I wouldn't have known how to get the follow up information.
Where can I find more info?
Meh...
her quality of life was so great she died at eight years old? Really? You understand that sounds entirely absurd right?
@@beardeddragon1706 kids die everyday much younger than that. Did they not deserve to live at all either?
@@patriciacannon4242 maybe.
When the doctors say hey this one's a lemon. You abort and try again when you're feeling up to it.
If you're spending all your time and money and a decent chunk of your ideal child bearing years taking care of a "special needs" child, that's a poor allocation of family resources.
I'd have to get into specifics about the couple on an individual basis but yes I believe there's metric that can be established to offer all sorts of great reasons to abort fetus/baby.
Not to mention what she did to the insurance pool with her health problems those eight years.
I'm guessing you might be one of those all lives are important types ergo need to be lived no matter the consequences? If so, dont get too bent out of shape. One of the last great things about America is that we all get to choose what's best for us regardless of what others say or believe when it comes to our health and family planning.
She didn’t give two hoots about the baby. The biological parents cared about the quality of life their child was going to have, she didn’t. If she did she wouldn’t haven’t given the child to someone else but would have kept her to make sure she was loved and taken care of.
I’m convinced she was being vindictive towards the bio parents for daring to refuse her the 15k. She knew they would worry for life about their child who needs serious attention and probably suffering somewhere with someone they don’t know.
Now she’s out here seeking praise and attention for it... go figure...
The Biological parents had no intention of keeping a child with physical health defects in the first place. The bio-parents offered her 10k to end the pregnancy and she countered with 15k to end it but she couldn't do it. She took steps to protect this baby from being aborted or being lost in the foster care system. She went to a state where she was legally called the baby's mother. She gave this baby to a couple who genuinely wanted her. Not to some shallow couple who would leave her in the foster care system.
If anything she did more to protect this little girl than anybody else did. It would not have surprised me if the bio-parents would have let her rot in the foster care system instead of giving her a chance to live dumbass!
@@CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue With all due respect Celeste, where was her integrity when
1. she signed and entered into an agreement with a option to abort?
2. She upped the price for abortion? (She didn’t withdraw, they refused her the 15k).
Of course, we hope and pray the adoptive parents take really good care of the child but this doesn’t change the fact that the surrogate was holding the bio parents to a standard she herself couldn’t meet as she thought it too much to keep the baby herself...
Her actions have manipulative and vindictive written all over them
@@pumezaskeyi3195 Those egg and sperm donors were sketchy at best. They wanted a "perfect" child and when they didn't get it they tried bribing her to end the pregnancy and when she wouldn't let their baby go they said that they would place her up for adoption.
Her actions were saving this child from being aborted and then being placed in the foster care system which is overwhelmed with kids and babies that need time and attention.
If anybody was being manipulative it was the egg and sperm donors.
@@CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue they said they would place their child up for adoption before the lady took her out of state. she did it out of spite because if she was against abortion she would have NEVER agreed to it. she didn't get what she wanted 15k so the agreed to place the child into a foster home. so again why would she need to leave? she was mad she couldn't get the 15k. and the child died at 8yrs old due to complications so the birth parents were right.
Remember that all people tend to project their beliefs about a situation onto others. Please reread your comments and think about yourself. Are you always tending to think negative about others motives?
She felt so connected with this baby that she would NEVER consider abortion!! Well, not for less than 15k. Smh. Wow. Just wow. 🤦🏼♀️
Meanwhile she finds a family to adopt this sweet baby. Which is EXACTLY what the parents were gonna do!! Sorry lady, you ain't super woman!! Ridiculous!
Actually the parents were going to throw her into the sistume and she know that it is highly unlikley she would ever be adopted do to that, so she went and found someone wanting her so the baby would not be thrown into the sistume & forgoten about.
Hero Paws system not sistume
Exactly what I thought, this woman is so selfish!
@@sandrabrott8580 Sorry my English is not good.
@Fig Lia She never gave the baby to the system. She gave it to someone she meet who she know could take care of her. She did not want the baby to end up like all those disabled kids who never get adopted.
So she wouldn't do it for 10k but she'd do it for 15k, that's not doing it jus to giv the baby a fighting chance, greed.
Anonymous probably a drug addict
Anonymous if you continued to listen you would hear that she entertained 15 and then quickly changed her mind...
Laur C she still entertained it, it wasnt like she kept the kid. She moved to a safe space to pawn the little girl off to somebody else, the decision wasnt for her to make in the first place, she might have felt that baby but it wasnt hers at all, it wasnt a call to make. If you were working at a doctors office as some type of secretary where the doctor was paying you to do your job, would it be appropriate for you to decide if someone needs open heart surgery? No. But thats what she decided. Now this little girl will probably have a very difficult road ahead of her, being in pain, maybe even emotionally, knowing her parents thought of aborting her and the surrogate entertained the idea her life wasnt worth the 15 grand but oh how wrong that is with all the surgery she will have to be having. She might not even be able to comprehend the situation, she might be that disabled, who knows? We certaintly dont, but that surrogate knew. She couldve set up an entire plan, this couldve been a result of incest from the biological parents. Sounds crazy right? But it can happen, it happens on the daily. Since she is here though and the surrogate cant change her mind i hope she gets the care she needs and that hopefully the kids arent as cruel.
Pearl the rebel like how your mom clearly was when she had you? yea.
Jersey Bred Not mine. What do they say? Everything is "Legal" in New Jersey.
"Shes a beautiful child with a fighting spirit!"
"She countered with 15,000"
They had us in the first half, I'm not gonna lie!
Not me. She was willing to break the rules of the contract despite knowing the rules from the beginning. This shows her selfishness from the get-go. Not surprising that she was willing to break her “religious convictions” for five more thousand dollars. A low life is a low life.
So not only did she breach contract, try to extort money out of the family, but she also kidnapped the kid who ended up dying????? What a monster....
Yeah that wasn’t her choice to make.
Whether to get an abortion or not WAS her choice to make. It's her body and still her right to decide what to do with it. No surrogacy contracts can force a woman to have an abortion if she doesn't want to, or to keep a pregnancy when she wants to get an abortion.
I don't feel too comfortable about the choice she made to give the baby up for adoption. It was probably necessary due to the baby's medical needs and she obviously doesn't have the money to cover that. But perhaps she could have let the intended parents meet the baby and see if they'd change their mind, and give her up if they didn't.
TheYasmineFlower She signed a contract though and probably already took money off them. I bet they didn't see any of that money back. And the parents did try get custody of the baby after she was born but she sold her out for adoption.
Your right , but it wasn’t anyone’s choice to make , having an abortion is the same thing as murdering a baby. It’s not right.
Emily Velazquez i am against abortion but bringinf a child into this world that may never live a happy life due to brain damage is kind of wrong
Sola - I understand where your coming from, but I believe that every one that is given a life, was given a life for a reason, even if they will suffer, I don’t think that it’s right to take their life away.
I was with her until she asked for 15k.
lfutrell82 I wasn’t. I get the whole pro life thing but not when you are forcing it on other people. She made a major parental decision on a fetus that was neither genetically or legally tied to her. She agreed to be used for her fertility, not her morals. But I see where she claims to be coming from.
Katherine Olivero the baby was in her womb. You can't make her go through the medical procedure if she doesn't want to. I'm pro choice myself, that includes the choice to not have an abortion.
I see what you mean but she was apart of an agreement that involved two other people and she totally discarded their wants for their baby.
If she donated the egg then I totally get it but if it was the other woman’s egg she had no right to make that decision because the agreement was to only use her for her body.
AB BA not in this instance because she was receiving money for other people to use her body. “Rent” if you will. And because she did what she did, two people now have to live with the fact that their kid whom they don’t even get to claim has to live life with a huge disadvantage and disability. Because of that woman an innocent little girl will have to live with tainted experiences, including the fact the she will probably develop security issues, not just because the way she was born but because they will probably tell her that her parents didn’t want her because of the way she is. That woman made a selfish and money-hungry mess.
She broke the contract and tried to extort them for more money..... She's not a hero
@K Maxx the child unfortunately passed away at age 8 due to complications from a surgery she had related to her health issues.
She countered!? She said she wasn’t going to let her be a forgotten disabled child. And that’s exactly what she was. She should be in charge of her medical bills.
I don't give a shit what people say, why the fuck would you have a kid knowing they're gonna be in pain and suffering their whole life??
Most disabled people aren't in pain or suffering, though. Only a small number of disabilities cause pain or suffering. Most just make people different. Most people with disabilities are about as happy or unhappy as any other person.
+Christina You don't have to be anti abortion to believe in a woman's control over her own body and what she does with it. In fact it's the basic premise the whole pro-choice movement is supposed to be based on.
Pro Lifers are more like Pro Birthers... They don’t give a fuck what happens after the kid is born.
Betty Cooper God created her that way and he knows how he wants her life to be. What if she's going to change the world one day!
junbh2 well the surrogate parents were trying to force her to abort against her will. How is that "pro choice" to try to force people to do it?
I was on Kelly's side until I heard she asked the family for $15,000. That's crazy.
Ruthmeli Charles i was never on her side, it wasn't her kid nor her choice, she is just a selfish bitch trying to milk more money out of desperate parents
How can you be on her side at any point of this story? She signed and agreed to a contract that the biological parents are 100% responsible for decision making and that she's nothing more than an incubator to a fetus who does not belong to her at all. She's a selfish, entitled idiot and she should be in jail for breech of contract.
She's a rented womb. She was paid good money to carry the baby to begin with. This whole thing was financial.
I think she was joking about money
It was 1,500
This lady is so full of it!!!! She only decided to “give the baby a chance” when they wouldn’t give her 15K
Bruhhhhhhj
It was said as a way to TEST those evil birth parents who wanted that baby murdered
@@GoldRangerFanGirl35 it was never said it was a test. And those people aren’t evil. They were saving a person from suffering
Murdering a child is evil
@@blessedbeyoutubeministries5267 it is, but by definition she wasn't a child yet though
She counter offered ?!?! And now she’s giving up the baby what a Hypocrite 🤦🏼♀️
She really had no choice about giving up the baby.
she is not a very likeable person.
laurel jade so what?! It's not about other people
why isn't she likeable?
Really? She’s isn’t like able cuz she saved an innocent child from being murdered just because it had defects?
I knw ppl dnt wanna hear this, but unless that kid is kept outta public view, that kids gonna commit suicide. I only say that because kids are cruel and they dnt care about birth defects they are only entertain by the fact that there is a freak in the class room. And if bully doesnt get to the kid the constant stares will, and as the final icing on the cake. Let pretend it grows up to be an adult. Who would marry her? Who would bring an adult with a clepf pallot, missing ear, who is slightly brain dead home to meet the fam. All her life if this girl is not bullied, then she will be pittied. I knw the women who saved this babys life would like to be viewed as a saint, but honestly I think she did this because since the parents wouldn't "pay up" she kept this baby so these parents can go on living knowing that they have a child in this world who will never stop suffering. There are alot of people here who believe abort is wrong, but I dnt think they really had a choice. They got to choose how their child will suffer either "in death" (abortion) or in life (bullying). This story just makes me sad...
Lianda360 just because she has brain/heart defects and a cleft face does not mean that the value of that little girls life should be decided upon the parents. I believe that life is a precious experience and taking that away from someone is just despicable. Plus, you don’t know for certain that she will be bullied or not married(like family.) There are some truly brilliant people out there that might have a big heart for her. And sure, she may have to struggle more due to her medical conditions, but that doesn’t mean that her life is going to be totally messed up the whole time. She can still have a happy and enjoyable life even though she has some medical conditions and may have to struggle a bit more.
If the surrogate was so intent on doing the 'right thing', why counter-offer? This sounds like she was simply after more money, but then took the martyr route when she couldn't get them to increase the termination fee.
Charlotte Helstrom *murder fee.
So they couldn't pay her to kill the child
Jo LAKE you do know it's not her fault the child was deformed right ? Thing unfortunately just happened. And yes people when they don't want to do something will throw out a sum of money that no one will pay for, she probably already knew that the two parents couldn't pay anymore then the give price. If any one is a horrible disgusting person are the parents because they were the one to throw out a sum of money to the lady to kill the child.
Heather Seyfried, you also have to consider that raising a child with severe disabilities is a big undertaking for parents. We don't know their situation and there are many factors you have to consider. They obviously wanted to have a child and there was no guarantee she would even be able to carry the child full-term give birth to a living baby. These were heartbroken people who had to make a devastating decision and the surrogate doesn't have a say in that. What was she going to do? Give birth, hand the baby over to the parents, and then say 'bye bye' and never see the child or the parents again? Never have to deal with the decision SHE chose to make?
maybe she wanted the parents to have no choice but let her decide for the baby. I think she really wanted to give the baby life. it affected her life and made her change states
I feel so bad for that baby's biological parents
.... Why
Why lol they have nothing to do with that child’s life and have a family that loves them
So do I.
Why no matter what the girl did the natural parents didn't feel like the baby was good enough to keep no matter what they had to go through to try to keep her she wasn't good enough she was deformed she couldn't let their friends look at her she can go to her beach parties are the clubs
@@cynditompkins8646 are you really saying they should have aborted the baby because it won’t be able to go to clubs or parties wtf
It's a business transaction. However, I will say she's in the wrong. The biological parents have the right to make the decision not the surrogate. It's devestating for all concerned.
Only God decides who lives and dies.
Well, to the previous reply, if God decides who lives and dies, he sucks at his job and should be fired. Or maybe people should just stop believing in harmful doctrines and use reason instead of religion. And to the comment I'm replying to, I say this: I don't condemn you for being so twisted as to claim that the biological parents should have the right or whatever. I don't condemn you because while your confusion and misguided moral compass has murderous implications, the average human has very little capacity to understand the incredibly enormous difference between something being of good moral value, and something seeming like it has this value only because it seems like mostly everyone else thinks so. And so I blame you along with each and every individual who has allowed this pathetic and unpalatable way of thinking to spread all over like a disease. It's so painfully consequential that our planet embraces the idea that killing babies while they are defenseless and tiny is anything other than psychotic and brutally twisted not to mention it should be the highest of crimes, is nothing less than catastrophic.
@@YA-qj8fx exactly.
Exactly. People make me sick. This is a living being not a bloody defective car. I'm.glad she gave the baby a chance at life. The comments here disgust me.
@@asapjohnson7809 You sound like a miserable excuse for a human.
Severe brain and heart problems that can only be partially treated by surgeries that could kill the baby... And then gives baby up for adoption...
Our hero
Well how do you know that the adoptive parents couldn't afford the baby's medical care? Sometimes they don't tell everything in the video but yeah I agree that it was distasteful that she counteroffered to abort the baby for 15k!
So you’d rather them kill the child instead of actually trying to help the child survive and live a happy life for as long as it can?
But the biological parents wanted her to be killed. So she gives birth and puts baby up for adoption so in the end she wasn't personally killing the baby
@@ashleygillen1997 That's not "killing the baby". The baby would have died with 100% certainty if not for medical interventions we have at our disposal today. She will continuously be needing them throughout her life in order to stay alive. She will not lead a life anywhere close to the lives you or I lead in terms of quality. Nature sometimes makes mistakes (the baby's condition, not the baby herself) that are unforgivable, and doesn't let them continue to exist on its own. It's people who intervene with the course of nature. It's nature that wanted to kill the baby. If you really love someone, you'd spare them that kind of a "life".
@@ashleygillen1997 I rather give up my child then know I'm bringing them in a world were they will suffer for the rest of their life. You can't fault parents on not wanting to see their kids suffer.
no no
the parents weren't being assholes they were trying to make sure that child wouldn't suffer
it was their decision as the biological parents and she shouldn't have done what she did
Samiam munoz EXACTLY!!
Yes
Samiam munoz I agree 👍 💯 percent with you
Eugenics... oi. She isn't suffering though, that little girl is happy and loved
I half agree. The baby is born now and the parents don't have to have anything to do with her. The baby also has a chance at a life now. The only reason I feel this was wrong was because she breached her contract. Morally speaking, she made the right choice in the end. Although it was only because they wouldn't pay her $15k for an. abortion.... but still. Baby's alive and has a family now.
As a 2x gestational carrier the parents and I both signed a contract and it was understood I was not willing to abort under any circumstance. I’m very thankful there was no reason to and the babies are healthy.
It wasn't her choice to make. That's why they had a contract. No winners 😞
Eh, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is wrong to force a couple to have a child they would have adopted if they were able to get pregnant. It is wrong to force a woman to have an abortion. And the surrogate finding an adoptive family for the baby is better than being left to the state
At first I was on her side but when I heard that she gave her up for adoption I changed my mind.
Maigodseki Why? She wants her to have a good live and knows that she doesn't have the resources to give her everything she needs. And it's not like she just gave the baby up for adoption. She said she don't want her to get lost in the system and that she found a family for her.
She's an awesome person, she only gave the baby up for adoption because she had very little money. She WANTS the baby to have the BEST LIFE POSSIBLE, and that would be with a family that has financial means. I think the mother is incredible and brave. What she did for this baby is awesome, this little girl is adorable and acts like any other baby it's age. Despite being very poor, she refused all that money to abort the baby. She's not the bitch, the original people who paid her to have the baby in the first place then abandoned the baby are terrible.
She was willing to abort if the couple increased their offer from
$10,000 to $15,000...She ended up having a baby with "severe brain and heart problem" that require *risky* surgeries to fix...She is so not awesome.
Maigo D. Seki she didn't have to keep the baby bc anyways at the end of the day it wasn't her baby biologically but she fought for that baby's life, to give that baby a chance to live and that's better than killing a human being. For what it's worth she can have abnormal life is she gets the care that she needs
Snook Witham its age? The baby's already born and is a she not IT.
So she would have had an abortion for 15 grand. How is she right then?
Sammy Gent
She's a poor mother with kids of her own, meaning that she could take the chance to possibly get some money for HER kids
Sammy Gent ok
It’s wrong, I feel bad for the baby. May God have mercy of this child
Noodle's Ramen noodles it’s still wrong. Abortion is never the answer.
No she offered the biological parents $15,000 to NOT make her abort the child
Lost me when she countered for 15k.
My heart goes out to the biological parents! I can only imagine what they went through! ♥️
Wow, so sad.
I disagree…. It’s not their baby
@@jetnight88 But they are the biological parents.
@@jetnight88 and it was not the baby of that crazy woman
@@jetnight88 she was there baby but they didn’t wish to bring a child into the world to suffer… Kelly decided against that.. only to abandon her a few months later.
So she is playing “holy” but she wanted 15k.
They use "religious beliefs"when it suits them.
I think you missed the point: She purposely made the price high to put a bee in their stockings....so to speak. It worked.
Exactly what I was thinking
Ya that is not wait happened! She did that to keep them quiet and to try her hardest to keep the baby!!!!!
You know we don’t know why she did that. Maybe she did that because she knew the biological parents wouldn’t go for it.
So she gave a fetus a lifetime of problems because "she would still bring other people joy" by effectively kidnapping it and carrying it to term. And somehow this is a happy ending to the story? Talk about sympathy for the devil. She broke a contract trying to shake down the parents, she broke the law, and she committed a child to a lifetime of suffering and somehow I'm supposed to feel proud of this psycho? This is insane.
Kevin Renner She kidnapped a fetus and held it for ransom. You act like saying don't intentionally give a person a lifetime of hardship based on selfish morals and greed is somehow synonymous with kill disabled people because their useless. Which isn't what I said or implied. >.>
liberals: her body her choice.
Also liberals: how dare she have that child who has mental disabilities. She was offered the money and negotiated. She did not hold it for ransom.
Kevin Renner That's not what I said and you clearly seem determined to vilify any statement that contradicts your opinion. Good day to you.
Kevin Renner it is her body her choice but IT ISNT HER BABY so it ISNT her choice. That poor baby is gonna suffer throughout life. Go through many painful surgeries and stuff so it’s just cruel to keep the baby here. And she did technically kidnap the baby she took it out of state when the law was already after her
many babies who have learning and physical disabilities have lived fairly fruitful lives. Who do you have the judgment of enforcing eugenics on someone? The more you leftist talk about abortion on children who have learning disabilities is beginning to show you truly are the fascist. Oh, by the way, how is it a baby? I thought you leftist believed it wasn't a "baby." Is it all of a sudden a baby when this happens? It sounds like you need to get your priorities straight here.
No one in their right will ever hire her again 🤦🏽♀️😅
Surrogates need to be carefully vetted, not just before the pregnancy but throughout the gestation. Facial deformities occur in the first trimester, with drug use being a possible cause. I am not saying this woman wad a drug user, but I am advocating for stringent background checks and vigilant health monitoring throughout the pregnancy.
I would hire her hell, she did nothing wrong
She didn’t care about that baby, she was in it for the money. I wouldn’t be surprised if the adoptive family she found paid her for the baby. If the baby’s parents said they’d give her up for adoption, why run with the baby, only to give the baby up for adoption yourself anyways. I’d want her charged for kidnapping.
Exactly. She's pretending to be all self righteous to the cameras, but her actions were nothing but greed. I too believe that she sold the baby to the adoptive parents.
@Promise You She ran with the baby and delivered without their knowledge. That’s what the whole video was about. They obviously wanted a child. They wanted a “healthy,” child. When they found out the baby would have complications and the severity of those complications, they decided to terminate because they felt their daughter wouldn’t have a good quality of life. They had every right to do that. I’m not here to judge them for that! My issue is with the surrogate because first of all, that’s not your baby, so it’s not supposed to be your choice. But I’d understand if she didn’t have her selfish motives. When the surrogate didn’t get the amount of money she requested to terminate. The parents told her, THEY WOULD give the baby up for adoption. Meaning they wanted to choose the proper family. Maybe they would’ve wanted an open adoption, who knows! They surrogate claimed she didn’t like that idea and ran while pregnant with their child. She claimed she bonded with the baby and didn’t want them getting rid of her! Only for the same women who claimed she ran because she cared to much to terminate or have the baby adopted .......... To turn around and have her adopted anyways. Meaning she made the arrangements, chose the family and most like charged the family for the baby. IT WAS ABOUT WAS MONEY for her, not the baby! 🤦🏽♀️
Yeah I was wondering that too. If the family who actually adopted the child paid the surrogate.
Why did she sign the contract if she wasn’t willing to abort the baby?? Then asks for 15k wooowww
Hana Afifi it’s her body lol
musicdiva2020 what’s your point body trumps money
Cristina Bergara
It’s her body but it’s not her baby.
She kidnapped another mother’s child and then wanted the mother to pay her for the right to her own child..
When the mother refused and tried to compromise she ran away and decided to give the child away.
Poppy Paranormal that’s a her issue. They should’ve made up a contract with lawyers
@@poppyparanormal2189 it was a donor egg. No one was the bio mom
Anything I've read about Surrogacy is that if your considering being a surrogate you must understand that the baby your carrying is not yours and that the couple whos baby your carrying may have different moral standards than yours. You may be against abortion the couple may be okay with it. This woman may need to rethink being a surrogate after this.
Tucna Fucna who gives a shit about contracts what the fuck its not right to kill and commit murder on a defenseless baby what the hell is wrong with you ppl saying its ok to abort.
I didn't comment saying it was or wasn't okay to have an abortion. I think you may need to go back an re-read what I wrote.
Tucna Fucna With all due respect, we aren't talking about things and contract but people, particularly a baby and a contract. Sure the BM signed a contract but she is the person who is carrying the child in her body. She is a person not a robot where you dictate who and what. If we have come to a point where we view people and surrogacy as contracts and surrogacy is about demands on a human being about a human being and their rights, or getting money for the right type of baby then it is probably best that surrogacy becomes illegal like other countries because it actually is human trafficking.
Tucna Fucna the baby is part of her body...she is feeding the baby and taking care of it, contract or not, respect or not, morally what she did was right, she didn’t kill a child just because the “other” parents disliked that the child had birth defects. This is a sad story all in all. How would one feel if they were told their parents asked for them to be aborted because the parents disliked the way they looked or how they functioned, that person would feel terrible and unloved. It’s almost a form of discrimination if you think about it. And you don’t know the specifications do you? Now I only know a little about the this process, but from a normal person looking at this woman, views points aside, I would say she loved what she was carrying inside her enough to realize that just because the baby is deformed, the baby deserved life. That, I feel, was a very human and beautiful thing to do, even if it was against the law.
Tucna Fucna so a contract is more important than saving life?
It’s not her child so she didn’t care if the baby suffered and died, looks like the surrogate did it out of spite. Michigan need to change their laws! What an awful money hungry surrogate!
*" she needs risky surgeries just to survive and live a still sucky life but she can grab at toys so oh well this women is a hero now "* lmao no she isn't. She signed a contract and then broke it. "I didn't want this baby to be forgotten in the system" **puts the baby up for adoption**
Angel Street she found a set family so that she wouldn’t be in the system
I don’t understand why the contract matters. I don’t care what the contract says, you can’t just kill that baby because you don’t like how she turned out
@@quinngrey8916 you don't understand why the contract "matters"? Then you don't understand the concept of contractual law I guess. A contract is a legally binding document and there are civil and criminal penalties for violating its terms - that's the law. If you don't like any aspect of the agreement, including any of the potential consequences should there be a violation, then don't sign it! It's the same argument that pro-lifers love to make, if you don't like one of the potential consequences of intercourse (i.e. pregnancy) then don't enter into the contract (i.e. have sex). This woman not only broke the law by violating her contract, she literally demanded a $15K ransom payment in exchange for having an abortion - why would someone so ostensibly committed to giving life to this child entertain ANY monetary offer?
Sarah Riedel that is indeed odd that she asked for 15,000. However, I don’t care what a contract says, if it goes against your morals, such as if it instructs you to kill the baby inside you, who cares if it’s a contract? A piece of paper shouldn’t have any say in whether a child dies or not. Who cares what a paper says if a life is at stake?
Rose Kennedy she signed the papers knowing full well she may have to abort. She shouldn't have signed it if she didn't agree with it.
In her contract it says the family holds the right to abort. She didn't have to sign it or carry their baby but she took that risk and had no objections. That's something surrogates discuss beforehand with the family. When they didn't pay her extortion price she fled the state. The family probably already paid her a big chunk and tens of thousands in medical bills for the insemination. I bet she don't plan to return their money though. So get outta here with that moral high ground bs because its crap.
Kitty A So you would rather take a child’s life then have someone who can’t have kids have joy in your life because of this baby last time I checked abortion is murder it’s legal murder disguised as a woman’s right and actually if you go into the origins of abortion it is pretty much child sacrifice when you abort a child you’re sacrificing your child to a deity
Kitty A Exactly
I totally agree with you. She signed the contract, she knew it was possible
Having a vegetable as a kid would cost tons of money in the long run. Why bring a child into this world if you know they won’t have a good quality of life? Living in a wheel chair their whole life, unable to communicate or do things for their self. Having to be dependent on someone their whole life and always being a burden, doesn’t that sound lovely?
glitterandglitz1 Everyone knows abortion is murder, but women do it anyway so what can we do about that? The woman knew everything that would come with on that contract, whether the baby was healthy or not they could've asked for an abortion and she and the family would have discussed this beforehand as well, for her to just take the money and run off to Michigan is in the wrong too
she asked for 15 when the parents offered 10 so we all can agree she has pretty obvious intentions.
She was a petty Patty who couldn’t get her way so she ran away with her toys (in this case, with someone else’s baby).
I hope they have it and took the money …. And did help the baby
Look at 2:50
I have a special needs child. It is amazing what love can do. I was told to give him up for adoption. I refused. Except for a speech problem. Everybody loves my son. He’s the best thing God have me. I am honored to be his mother. Why do people not really understand what love truly is? We are so disposable, we don’t realize that in the end we all are going to die. Even the geniuses, the wealthy. A society’s ability to see strentgth is it’s different populations is the most advanced society. You want to know the secrets of the Universe? Learn to communicate with those you deem too frail to live. They are stronger biometrically than you rhink. We are only beginning to unlock how they understand our earth.
"We will give you 10 grand"
"Make it 15 grand"
So, she has her own kids. Then didn't even keep the baby herself?
And the baby had parents who happily took her. Whats the problem?
What is the point? The baby survived, is loved and the birth parents didn't have to take care of her exactly as they wished. Seems like people just want to kill babies and find problems even when everything had the best outcome possible.
@@c.n.p.657 The problem is that the parents didn't want to deal with a baby that had so many physical health problems, heart defects, a cleft lip, and palate, and a misshapen head and ear that can be corrected with surgery.
If she hadn't taken her kids and the baby and moved to Michigan the birth parents would have had the right to have her abort the pregnancy.
@@CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue but the "parents" DIDNT have a baby w "all those problems" shooot the woman didnt even carry the baby...
A diff woman carried the baby and a diff family happily took the baby in w open arms knowing and willing to care for the way the baby came out. You dont kill someone bc its gonna be an inconvenience to you to help them... I wish yall knew how much God loved you bc man to think that way is sad
@@c.n.p.657 I know but the people who wanted this baby donated their egg and sperm and implanted the embryo inside this woman. If she had stayed where she was the people that she was being a surrogate to would have had the right to determine what happened to this little girl. But because she moved to Michigan she knew that the baby would be safe and be placed with people who would be able to pay for her medical care.
what a selfish woman..and she's still giving their child up for adoption smh. she should be in jail.
S. G fuck no.. her parents wanted to kill her. Literally. They shouldn't have custody of the baby.
The woman is right
Jennifer Sihandri how so the baby life is pain that kid has to have surgery after surgery just to live and most like isn’t going to live long that woman was just self they should know they already had 3 children with disabilities.
Jennifer Sihandri I would rather my kid dies then live her whole life in pain
taylor redmond that's not ur decision JFC
You are not God. You don't have the right to say who lives and who dies.
First it's a disabled kid, next it's the elderly, the unborn, then assisted suicide of kids, then physically disabled people, etc etc
Think of poor alfie Evans
Would u say the same for a kid in a wheelchair too?
Jennifer Sihandri no because they have have their whole brain. I’m not saying I’m god I’m saying I have a heart. She will never have what the other kids have so will never be like you and me. But if people want to kill them selfs I guess we do need to get out the weak mind.
It's not her baby. She's just a vessel and signed a contract.
So she essentially held on to the suffering baby in the hopes the distraught parents would give her $15000? What an evil human. How is she not in prison for all this?
Hold on here. She countered for $15,000. Her entire speech about "she had a fighting spirit and she wanted to fight for her," is complete bullshit. She was will to kill the baby, for the right price. It's like the old Winston Churchill quote,
“Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"
Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"
Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”
😂😂😂
Not true though. I wouldn't have sex with anyone for $10,000. I haven't had sex since my Husband died three years ago. Now, if someone offered me 5 million, I'd throw all my pride away and think of my children's lives and futures. I'd go right back to celibacy right after.
You're missing the entire point, Jessica. The point is that if there is ANY dollar figure that would persuade you to have sex with a person you otherwise wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, then that itself makes you meet the definition of a prostitute.
*Naw* keds... I've never taken money for anything unless it was my Husband, and he *owned* me so that's not a hooker.
I'd only do it if the amount would change my childrens' lives. If he was crazy gross I still wouldn't do it. He'd have to be clean, disease free, intelligent, at least taller than me. No way am I banging some gross dude. Puke!
I disagree. If he is your husband because of the money he spends on you, you still are a hooker. You'd just be a subscription hooker instead of a pay-as-you-go hooker.
That is true and that is why I said that 99.99999% of people would do it. I'm not sure if you noticed, but what you just said, is the exact point of the original joke
Let me take the “High Road” since I can’t get the 15K
SheldonLudlow I have a feeling she did it to spite the parents.
Henry McComments You clearly didn't finish the video.
You're such an idiot
If you mean the OP, they literally say she was willing to abort for $15k.
Disgusting
This child’s entire life was full of pain. The surrogate was self righteous and now a whole human had to endure a life probably not worth living so she could be right. No we don’t agree with what you did
Nah, the surrogate wasn't self-righteous, just pretending to be in front of the camera. She was greedy.
How do you know the baby had a miserable life how do you know the baby didn't get excellent care and had two beautiful parents that loved her and hugged her and kissed her and took over and made her laugh and read books to her and put her to bed how do you know she had a miserable life because she didn't look perfect like you
@@cynditompkins8646 3 major heart surgeries in eight years and so many minor surgeries that her adoptive parents lost count. Yeah, sounds amazing.
@@marleymescudi no one understands the pain that child must have gone through but I also know that that child was loved she laughed she was held in her mama's arms was read to I don't believe her life was pure hell the whole time
@@cynditompkins8646 No child should have to go though that pain both physical and the emotional of knowing they can die any day and will never grow up. It all could have been avoided if it weren't for a selfish adult.
If she is that concerned she should actually kept the baby herself. How fucking selfish. She’s not suffering the baby is!
So they said they would give her up as a backup plan so she ran away to give the baby away herself... Wtf
vannah brogan ya that kind of confused me
Perhaps she thought about it during the rest of her pregnancy and ended up deciding that it was for the best that way? With the baby's medical needs, she probably did it because she couldn't afford to pay for the baby's medical procedures, whereas she might have found a loving pre-adoptive home that could.
I think the biological parents should have been given consideration, though, to get her. Who knows, maybe they would have decided against giving her up if they had met her as a baby.
TheYasmineFlower The biological parents were given consideration but she stupidly denied them only to give the poor girl away herself
Vilonious Lee They wanted her dead before she was born. Seeing her alive and knowing that's your child is another thing.
Vilonious Lee Nope she wanted to sell the baby on for money. She wouldn't have made anything if they got the baby back. And people are allowed to change their minds also. The surrogate did and considered the abortion for 15 000 remember so don't act like a hypocrite. Once the child was born the couple obviously felt differently about the baby so don't tell lies. The surrogate is a money hungry liar who kidnapped a baby because in the state they were already in she wouldn't have been considered the mother since the contract she signed was legally binding in that state so she left and sold the baby because she didn't want her either.
that woman IS NOT a hero.
Wait ..the kid had defects, so in the woman's mind it's okay for the kid to enter the world with those defects and suffer. Nobody is even asking the real question.. . How those defects came about in the first place?
Yes she is. She save that baby's life.
She talks about the baby bringing joy to her adoptive parents but I'm sure her condition also brought stress. And it probably brought the baby pain.
@Officially Aspiring if you read about her she had a very full life and her parents are not "stressed" but have other disables children.
Life is pain. We cannot separate life and pain, they go together. To decide someone's life should be terminated because they are or will be in pain in pain is not right. Life is still worth it despite the pain
If she cared so much for the baby, why didn't she keep her?
That child is going to have a horrible life. The parents weren’t doing anything wrong
Noname Noname with those defects? There’s a fat chance she average will grow up. And if she does? And she says she wishes she were never born because her life has been nothing but pain and suffering? Then who’s the dick.
Noname Noname did you know that the parents wanted to child back after birth (and after that dickass woman ran away with the child, wanting 15k $ instead of 10k $) but the woman gave it up for adoption? She was an evil woman
You don't know that. EVERYONE who is here was made to live for a reason.
Imani Scriven so that baby's life is not important
it’s nice to see how american sees disabled people
That's fucked up I'm sorry, the parents told her they did not want to bring a child in this world just to ultimately suffer and die young and she was so selfish that she had the baby and PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION? Are you kidding me?? Everyone's gonna say "well what's wrong with that" everything. You don't have someone else's incredibly sick child just to give them to fucking strangers without biological parents permission. That's so wrong on so many levels. And yes while some adoptive families are great others aren't, I would know, been there done that. Poor child. What a dumb selfish woman.
She didn’t get pregnant with the intention of raising the baby. I personally have more of an issue with the bio parents wanting to now play parents of yr once they realized the baby isn’t as bad off as they thought she was going to be.
andie361 Thompson hey, theyre her parents, and she still isnt well off. It wasnt the surrogates decision to make, its not like shes a her for making a child suffer
In sorry. I agree with the parents. She’s selfish. I feel like quality and quantity of life is important.
The girls name is Seraphina Harrell, she passed away at 8, if anyone wanted an update
As much as I'm not really for abortion, this woman knew what she signed up for. She knew that if that if the child were to have medical issues the parents wanted the child aborted, but because of her beliefs and selfish reasons she gave birth to the child. She obviously has major abnormalities and they said she'll have to get several surgeries that she'll most likely not survive yet this woman was selfish and gave birth to the child knowing that the poor child will suffer.
Chase Cooper do some research about how abortion actually happens and what it feels like for the baby yes when most abortions are conducted the baby is in fact old enough to feel pain
Wolfgirl 666 Even if the child is not fully developed yet?
Wolfgirl 666
actually YOU should do you research- fetal demise is ensured before the procedure starts- meaning the thing is dead before it ever knows it was alive- meaning it literally feels nothing like a corpse during autopsy.
Siillaarriel That is absolutely false. The abortion procedure is what kills the baby. The ripping of its limps or the saline solution burning the baby alive. And many babies have been born alive after the abortion didn’t kill them. Most abortions are barbaric.
Chase Cooper here's the thing..no one knows what this child may accomplish with her life. Didabled people dont deserve death sentenfes before they even have lived. My god!
There's nothing worse than an evil person pretending that they are doing an "honorable" thing.
By refusing to do her job under contract, fleeing her state, and bring a child into the world against their parent's wishes, she has committed an act of utter evilness.
nhendrych You have to understand that the surrogate mother isn’t supposed to intervene between the biological parents wishes. Surrogates aren’t supposed to be attached or responsible for the child. The biological parents never wanted their child to be suffering her whole life, so they tried as early as they could to abort. The surrogate went against those things and gave the burden and responsibilities to adoptive parents. She even tried to make the biological parents pay a lot more money for the procedure, who showed that the surrogate didn’t put much value into her birthed child.
Hannah G and there’s nothing worse than an evil person wants to take a child’s life
Thankful Square So you kill a child because it’s going to be crippled because it was some doctor says there was one story I know what the doctor told the mother to abort to her twinsAnd the doctor said that they had severe defects and all these things and she refused to abort the babies the babies actually came out normal
glitterandglitz1 Shes done the most cruel things possible by bringing a child into the world knowing that they would suffer potential health problems.Probably knowing the family's and her own medical histories,and the risks that could be posed on this poor soul.Now this child- will forever suffer. Because of some woman's stupid quest to righteousness.Because she didn't have the brain cells to think this all the way through.She is a disgrace to humanity.
Henry the Hen You don't smile when you are suffering? Oh buddy do I got news for you,at that age her physical havent yet affected her emotional state.Wait until she grows up and realizes that this health conditions arent going away,and are there to torture her for life.Cue in bouts of depression,not to mention the on going physical pain and restrictions that would prevent her from participating in life,and activities like her peers.Did you know that suicide rates are extremely high in disabled people? You must not be very educated or a disabled person yourself,seeing how ignorant you are.God give me the confidence of a mediocre man.So no,they did not do this child any favors by keeping it alive,they forced it into this world knowing it possible suffering,and that is a form of torture.
This is wrong on so many levels. She had no right to flee. It wasn’t her baby.
No wonder people called her bad 🤦 Countered with $15,000
It's THEIR baby, if they want the surrogate, that THEY hired, to abort then the surrogate should abort. The baby has to have multiple surgeries and cost taxpayers a fortune over her lifetime. She committed breach of contract and should be held responsible for it.
If it's THEIR body, then they should have it inside THEIR body. If they physically can't, well that's too bad. This whole story shows why surrogacy is a bad idea.
A contract doesn't give you the right to determine what happens to or inside someone else's body.
Rebecca Hicks hence the agreement and pay. she's just greedy. why not keep it herself then
Rebecca Hicks the whole point of the contract is she is signing over her Rights to the baby. Obviously if she wasn’t cool with abortion then she shouldn’t have signed the contract. She is in the wrong 100%. Complete fake hero.
Tyler G no, the chance was very low, that there would be actual health problems and she probably did sign the contract because she desperately needed the money and didn't think of the possibility that the baby will have health problems :/ and thinking about abortion when you are not pregnant is a whole lot different than thinking about abortion when you are not, just think about all the hormones, so it's totally okay if a woman changes her mind about getting an abortion as soon as she is pregnant...a f*cking contract can't change a pregnant womans feelings
@@missblueberry1033 who cares about her feelings she signed the contract they didn't force her and that's all that should matter.
It's not her baby....
It depended on what state she was in at the time of the birth whether or not the baby was the surrogate mother Krystal Kelly was the baby's legal mother. Because she choose to relocate to Michigan she was the child's mother at the time of the birth. Krystal Kelly as a single mother was unable to care for the child's expensive medical needs but she did find an adoptive family who wanted to. The original intended parents had said they did not wish to have this child. The baby was featured in the video while she has abnormalities and certainly by now has had many surgeries to correct them the baby was not suffering.
She's the carrier not the mother
NOT true at that time in the state which she gave birth in as is clear from all the reporting on this case.
Ok so what are you going to do about it? Are you going to call the Abortion Police to hold this screaming woman down and abort the child inside her again her will? Is that the type of world you want to live in? No? Then hush.
Mesmer ASMR it's not her egg nit her sperm so the embryo wasn't hers. She was willing to abort for more money and she can actually go to jail because it's considered kidnapping. She has zero rights to what happens. She's just the carrier not the mother.
Maybe they didn’t want their DNA having to go through a lifetime of surgeries and never having a real childhood, and to also be in the system. No matter what their dna was adopted.
Maybe anything was possible and anything could have happened to the DNA when they use the surrogate. And they didn't want to have that possibility they shouldn't have used a surrogate. Easy facts quit being a stupid fucktard , selfish ass
Since in Michigan the surrogate is the legal mother... Why not keep her? You have her up for adoption because you didn't want her!
Had the biological parents agreed to pay 15 grand, the baby would be gone now. So she didn't really intend to give the baby a chance to live.
Patrick De Santos the "baby" has health defects and the parents were right to make her abort it
Patrick De Santos Nor she wanted the baby hence she gave the baby to another person other than the biological parents.
Happy Emoji No she didn’t. She signed a contract stating she would abort the child if any genetic conditions diminished its quality of life. After the parents told her to get an abortion, she raised the asking price saying she would do it for 15 grand, instead of the initial 10. The parents said no. She went to off to essentially give the baby to the highest bidder. After the birth the parents expressed that they wanted the child back and she basically ignored their request and sold it off. This woman is a hypocrite.
Ashley Aka-Mensah She’s definitely an evil person for using this condition to gain money and then act like she wanted to keep the baby because of being morally against abortion. If she was thinking for that baby and if she had an ounce of goodness in her heart, she would’ve aborted the fetus. If she was against abortion, she would’ve given the baby to it’s biological parents. Clearly, we are seeing an evil person that’s acting so good and caring.
Had the woman not be selfish and listen to the parents the child would've been gone
sooo she had the baby just to give her up for adoption???? ok....
Sarah Anguiano-Chavez she technically and legally as a surrogate can't keep the baby cause it's not hers
Yes, she didn’t want the baby, this woman is a monster
Rita N did you not here in the video when they mentioned multiple times that she was already a struggling single mother? She would not have been able to afford all of the babies medical costs and surgeries
She didn't want to have the abortion because she knew probably couldn't bare the trauma of an abortion.
Because she wanted the child to have a chance at life. That is nobler than killing it..
People slamming this woman for setting up the baby for adoption rather than aborting her is RIDICULOUS! She gave this baby a chance at a life, gave her birth when her own biological parents wanted her dead. It is "no mercy" to abort an unborn child because of a disability, just as it is no mercy to put a disabled adult "out of misery" by murdering him. As for 15k, the woman clearly says she regretted that counter offer; the financial pressures of being a single mom made her say this, but only momentarily. No matter your stance on abortion, this woman let this disabled girl LIVE and that's fact!
If I were naturally pregnant with a baby with heart and brain conditions that severe, I would have chosen to have an abortion for the sake of the baby; life's too hard even for people with mild medical conditions.....
Always about Fkng money. People need too grow a heart.
I dont see it that way. I see it as not bringing a child into this world to only make it a few months in. I believe in happieness witha disabled child, but I also believe in your life being over when you have a child thats as disabled as this little girl. The child cant help it, but the parents cant either. People may not have to time/room/money to provide for a disabled child. A lot of care and time goes in to children like her. I dont blame the parents. Its not their fault. They didnt ask for this. Its sad but there is no one to blame in this story except the surrogate. Why not abort a baby that will never see a day like a normal person. Why would you let a child suffer like that and let it die within the first few years on earth? Thats not fair.
Yentl Van Breugel human beings suffer during abortion too, if they are at the gestational stage to see the disabilities this baby had, the baby was old enough to feel pain. Certainly everyone doesn't have the time/room/money to provide for a disabled child. For some reason, however, there are thousands of people who adopt these children and don't think of them on a level of dogs or cats to be terminated at will, for health reasons. I realize that even completely normal human babies are terminated for any reason though. I think disabled people who see this story would be surprised that so many "normal" people think their parents have a right to end their lives, shouldn't have the right to pursue happiness
And are not considered valuable enough to protect under the constitution. But that is the world we live in.
Everyone is like oh yay she didn't abort. Yeah cool, but the only reason is because the family didn't want to pay her an additional 15 grand on top of w.e. they had already paid out. Especially when she signed a contract beforehand saying she had no objections to abortion. So while I wish the baby girl well, I see right through that lying surrogate.
Kitty A Exactly. It was all about the money. The surrogate isn't a hero. She doesn't care about the baby and didn't even keep the child. She signed that document and fled to another state when she didn't get the money she asked for.
She said ahe loved the unborn baby yet places it up for adoption. The bio parents could have people who they had in mind.
crystal sparks she can't afford her life I'm sure if she had the money to maintain this child she would of kept it
Thats So Alice But it's not her child and therefore not her decision to make. Besides the parents said they would put her through adoption. Then the woman runs off with the child and does it anyway. What is the point of her getting all this money to have a child and then running off and making decisions for the child when she's not even the parent?
Who? Hades and Persephone?
The bio parents wanted the baby dead. She loved the baby to let the baby live and gave the baby to a loving family able to deal with her special needs. Use common sense ❤
I’m sure she took money from the family that adopted the child. So she got paid for having her and got paid for giving her away. Very sad
What a horrible woman! That poor kid suffered for the 8 years of her life and then passed. The evil woman was going to abort for 15k so this was no noble cause she was fighting for, she was being vindictive.
And this is why you have lawyers and a very detailed contract with situations like this. While I don’t necessarily agree with the biological parents to abort, it should be their right to state what they want in the best interest of their child. The surrogate is only the person giving birth to that child by contract.
Leaha Rene While this woman is clearly disingenuous & selfish, the state can't force her to abort the child that she is carrying. The ethical choice in this situation would have been to follow the contract that she agreed to, but I think people that are using surrogates need to be mindful of the fact that the surrogate is carrying the baby & she will be susceptible to the hormonal changes & the bonding that comes from carrying a child. I don't think this happened in this situation, since the surrogate had no problem aborting for a higher price, but again, the state can't force her to abort & people hiring surrogates need to be cognizant of this fact & understand that a clause forcing the mother to abort in certain situations would not be enforced in the U.S.
I know that people have strong opinions about abortion, but I think that pregnancy, life, death, and illness are extremely complicated. And it's a choice of who will suffer. A child with severe defects or a woman with guilt.
OMG YES personally I’m pro choice but I understand and respect people who are pro life just as long as they don’t force it on other people which is exactly what she was doing.
they actually did have a contract but it was only legal in the state they were in (i don't remember the state) which is why the surrogate went to michigan because the contract didn't apply there
Leaha Rene Ghats her child regardless! It's a part of her, its not that easy to let go of a human being you've had inside you for 9 months. 9 FUCKING MONTHS
The problem with this story is that once they heard that the baby was being given up for adoption the biological parents wanted parental rights to the child, but they were denied because they used an egg from a donor instead of the 'mother'.
Also this baby had organs growing in the wrong places, two malfuntioning spleens, and NUMEROUS heart-problems TO NAME A FEW of the things that was wrong with her including a problem with her BRAIN. I can't say I blame the biological parents for wanting an abortion so the child wouldn't SUFFER.
The surrogate is a bitch who breached the contract with the parents, ran away, refused to accept 10 000 dollars for taking the abortion (saying it was against her reliogon yet that she'd do it for 15 000 before changing her mind again) and then she gave the baby up for adoption because she couldn't afford to raise the child herself (money was the reason she became a surrogate in the first place).
I am happy the baby is with someone who'll actually care for her, but the baby COULD have gone back to the biological parents, but for STUPID reasons they can't have her back. Despite the donor-egg the biological father is still the biological father! And they WANTED her back too!
MovieManiac33 I meant that it's better to abort a child before they're capable of feeling pain, rather than forcing them to live with it after birth. Can you honestly imagine what kind of life this child now has? And still say the surragate did the right thing? I honestly can't.
Also, I'm not going to pretend to know what went through the surragate's mind during all of this and i'm not going to re-watch the video just for that. At the time i did however get the impression that she only kept the baby for money. I admit now that i may have been overly judgemental, but that doesn't change the fact that i don't agree with her decition not to have an abortion. That baby has so many medical-problems that i can't imagine he/her still being alive, or what kind of life he/she lives through if they are.
And honestly, since you sort of brought it up, i'm uncertain about topics such as people who order aid to die because they can't live with whatever medical problems they have, but those people at the very least make that decition for themselves. I don't know how old this child would be by now, if their alive at all, but if the adoptive parents are keeping him/her alive UNNECESSARILY just for their own sake then maybe they should start thinking about what they would've wanted if they were in this child's situation.
MovieManiac33 I do believe i admitted that i may have been wrong and overly judgemental at the time, or did you just ignore that so you could argue with me?
Besides it's been i-dont'-know-how-long since i watched this and i honestly can't remember what i thought or felt at the time so i'm not going to continue this discussion any further. I stand by what i said, but i admit that i might not be logical about something i wrote on an angry whim a long time ago.
I still stand by what i said, but i know it might not have come across the way i wanted to so if it's easy to misunderstand i apologize for that. I'm not going to change my mind about disagreeing with the surragate's final decition about not aborting the child, but i doubt you're going to change yours either so i won 't waste my time.
Goodbye
P.S.
I feel like i should explain that i wrote what i did based on my habit of expecting the worst which in this case is that the child is dead or in a vegetative state only kept alive by artificial life-support or something. It's not logical, i know, but that's what i'm expecting.
Aly A The biological parents wanted to end the suffering BEFORE it could even begin. In my eyes that child was used as a personal game to gain more money. Now, the poor little thing has been put up for adoption. Unwanted by her surrogate and denied parental rights from her biological parent. not only that but with heart and brain problems! The odds are endless for little tot but now that it's set and done I only wish the best for the kid...
Linda Christiansen so you are saying that your parents could kill you without your consent if you faced severe compliactions like this. after all the only difference between a fetus and the people in the comment section is that it cant voice out what is its decision.
She have respected the parents wishes. It was their baby and Kelly wasn’t even going to keep her.
Was I the only one waiting for her to say she adopted the child. Girl you did all this, as if her knight on a white horse, then you give her away???!!? She should be prosecuted if you ask me. The little girl lived the miserable short life her actual parents wanted to avoid for her. Smh🙄
Looking at the kid is depressing. That woman has no heart
so having a heart means letting doctors rip her limb from limb because she's not normal
+Lovedance Channel That poor child is never going to live a normal life and has a high chance of dying in these risky surgeries... as bad as it sounds it would have been in her best interest to save that child from all that suffering
Lovedance Channel sorry, that’s not how abortion works
Lovedance Channel Do you know how modern medicine works?
Looking at the comment this human produced is depressing. Let's just kill her. 🙄
You're a heartless human being. The pro abortion movement is so full of crap and has no moral argument that makes any sense. You're all idiots.
Is the baby doing well as of 2018? This was uploaded 5 years ago.
Electronz- Clash royale and more wth is wrong with you
Irene Ingenue I think the surrogate was just in it for the money
shes gonna have a fantastic life of bullying thanks to the super surrogate mother hero
Electronz- Clash royale and more
Why? I mean, it looks like if you were saying not having different kids is a better option than to teach everybody to respect and to love people.
Andy GmF ya this world has enough dumb retarded people notice this baby has brain problems and basically useless atm and its a girl
You can’t want a baby that badly and then turn around and be picky....she’s beautiful I’m so happy she’s loved and has a wonderful life now💕😍
She signed a contract saying she would terminate. She should have done it.
This story makes no sense because she refused to abort the baby even after being offered 10K but then she countered at 15K? While I'm trying to wrap my head around this situation and look at the positive side because the little baby girl was born, I still feel making a counter-offer on the baby's life is wrong. Once she has surgery for her cleft lip and some cosmetic surgery she will look beautiful and I am hoping her heart condition can be resolved. I hope she never views this story because it makes me sick. If you want to give a baby life then don't come back with an financial offer to abort.
She's dead.
That’s their biological child, you don’t get to make that decision for them
I thought it was her body her rules. Like fathers have nothing to say just because the kid is biologically theirs too. Feminism only when convenient...
@@allwhatilove914 huh? Who said anything about feminism. I just said it's their child genetically so they should be in charge. I think you are projecting on me O __ O
@@bascal133 its still her body , you cant force a women to get a abortion against her will . with your logic a man can force a women to not get a abortion because its his genetics .
This is so sad The biological parents didn't want their baby to suffer 😭 The neurologist and cardiologist told them their baby would live with a painful condition and she will pass away regardless ☹️ Krystal Kelley had no right to make any decisions she was just the incubator This couple used their frozen embryos it was their baby and their decision to make and instead their child lived for 8 years suffering in pain with serious health complications 😥
@Promise You Depends on the state and theres contracts involved theres a reason she had to move to Michigan in order to have the baby. So no she didn't have rights in the state they were in.
She LIVED 8 years and only died 1 day. Baby girl, you are not forgotten people still talk about you, still debate over YOUR story, still today you are making a splash. I'm so glad that you were born . Seraphina you were worth it all, sweet girl !
“She found a couple to adopt her”…
After the $15,000 counter offer to have an abortion ….you seriously think this lady didn’t offer this baby up to the highest bidder!
Greed! I
Quality of life is important…heart issues and bran damage doesn’t equate “quality”
She died at age 8 from her complications 😔