How To Drill Out ASSA Alboy, Medeco, Mul-T-Lock, Schlage Primus High Security Locks Distructive
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You didn't show us how to drill out any of these brands, you showed us how to fail at drilling an ASSA. Then you beg for subscribers? Psss....
So where's the lock getting drilled? What a ball bag
Don't beg for subs ar the end of a video that does not contain the info stated in your description. Where's the content? What's wrong with just putting an honest description?
Great video, Wayne. Thing is, you just want the lock that presents the most effort to defeat. Reality is, if someone is really intent on getting into you house, they can probably enter at weaker points, like breaking in through another apartment or in a house, just look at the strenght of the structure that surrounds the door. I have seen people spend on high security locks for the front door an junk locks on the rear door and little latches on the basement windows, as if burglars will only attack the front door.
If you don't have the rest of the house or apartment protected with even a rudimentary alarm system, forget about spending big bucks on $$$ high security front door lock. And looking at that drill trying to defeat the lock, I am thinking a simple vibration detector that would set off a blaring alarm long before the drill got even close to the steel ball bearing. A loud alarm is usually a fantastic deterrent.
Also, I might suggest, if you live in an apartment any floor above the first or second floor. put in a dual sided lock (the key being needed on both sides of the door). If thieves do get in to your place thru a window or fire escape -- the weakest point in apartment dwellings -- they can't get out the front door. I also know someone who installed a 130db horn in each room. Anyone finally defeats all mechanical security systems, it is nearly impossible to think with that kind of noise -- think of standing in front of a jet engine trying to figure out what steal and how to disconnect TVs, media systems, or looking for jewelry. It's painful. Just makes sure you don't forget the disarm pin :-)
Just got a assa 6000 for my schlage touch pad i wont pick it cus i have the keys but willing to try on one that is worn out
wow that was the most informative video I've ever watched and not just some idiot failing to drill out the first lock in their lineup
Post another reply. I like the way you think. Lol
@@mrsfireleg jeez this was a year ago lol
@@EvilScientist Yea. I’m a slow reader. I was the one who rode the short bus to locksmith school.
@@EvilScientist (Sat 4 rows behind Wayne).
@@mrsfireleg what? lol
Simple way to defeat hardened steel plate protection in the face of the lock is to just slice the first 1/2” off the lock behind the hardened protection .. I use a battery operated 41/2” angle grinder. After the face is removed simply slide out the Cylinder from the front of the lock. After that the lock can be operated with a screw driver..
Do sparks fly? Do you risk setting the house on fire? I've never seen a grinder cut metal without sparks flying.
cdan someone give me the exact specs on this drill and the least amount of rpm needed to penetrate a harden steel cylinder
Nice one Wayne.
Failure is sometimes the quickest way to educate. Thanks!
Just seen your video for the first time. I just subscribed. I'm a locksmith myself and am always looking for tips and experiences for different situations. I hope to add and absorb in the future.
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hi, could you just use an angle grinder from top through, will that just chop the lock in half, thanks
Neat. Its nice to see how solid these locks are from a demonstration view point. I am going to subscribe to you and like this video. ^_^ Look forward to your other videos.
+David Young Thanks!
Id be interested to see if you could go through if you put the drill down to 500rmp and use Rocol RTD with the Colbalt bit .
But most cordless drills dont have tortoise settings with the high torque of 240v drill.... but that looked like a pretty good Cordless drill... give it a shot, you would be surprised.
+Aaron James I have done much playing arround with drill bits and what they drill. Unfortauntley nothing buy carbide will drill theese locks. Check out some of my reasurch ua-cam.com/video/_Mr0sU4SVW8/v-deo.html
Thanks, very interesting video, Good cutting oil like RTD makes a huge diffrence and drill speed as well.
Cutting fluid is the way forward 🤓
Can a dent puller pullout that cylinder.? I don't know.
Hi Wayne
I’ve enjoyed your videos, but they’re all 4+ years old. I assume you’re not going to update them.
Are you still responding to comments? What is the best way to contact you if I want to buy some locks or if I had questions?
Thanks
Awesome Video Wayne. Very Cool To See The Reinforced Parts Of The Lock. Keep up the great work. Nick.
Thx!
A little oil a center punch and a drill with a little torque you get threw that. The drill was spinning way to fast to go threw steel
What is the advantage of ASSA over mul-t-lock and vise versa? I can't decide if I should get assa or mul-t-lock.
ASSA has much more hardened steel and more protected than all the others.
Wayne do you have any assa locks for sale I wanna get a few of these ?
hi thanks for video info very use full what do you think of the Bowley lock and the Haven floor lock?
How does it drill out
Great idea. Looking forward to the continuation.
Great video 😎😎😎
As a locksmith
Only grinding disc and at least 1000$ cash or they can stay outside
this should be titled how to fail at drilling out an assa
I actually like that Wayne has the videos set up like this. It's enough for a lay person (ie: non-locksmith) to be able to see that this lock is tough as nails, and makes the lock worth the premium, but it's not so much that a person with ulterior motives can go "get these bits and drills" and go to town. If Wayne's private channel is good for locksmiths to help people who got locked out of their ASSA's, this channel's great for showing people how much protection they can get for a small uptick in price.
Keep it up Wayne! :D
Jason
thank you!
+ganzonomy Agreed, too many people post how to B&E someone's locks now days.
yep its nice. however, locksmiths hold no monopoly on the knowledge it takes to defeat locks. inwould rather see all of what the pros do to open a lock so i can defend against a scumbag doing it to my lock. or at least know what it takes to defeat a lock so i can judge appropriately what lock to use for what threat level. dead bolts regardless of what lock is operating them are pretty low security anyway, they are only going to keep out the least determined intruder if thats the only layer or barrier. why drill when prying or smashing will do the same thing trice as fast and usually with less noise? of course all wayne was doing was showing the merits of the lock itself, if its the weakest part of your security system, then you are doing pretty well.
+club tap who cares why they post it, use the knowledge they show you tonprotect yourself. you tube has nothing on the criminal universities known as prisons in this country when it comes to instructions on hownto do bad stuff, if you can learn to protect yourself, then thats good.
That's security through obscurity, which is no security at all. when it comes to security the best thing to do is tell the manufacturer how their product cam be defeated and then, if they don't fix it, tell the world so that they have to fix it. It's a concept called responsible disclosure. We don't try top keep methods secret because it the good guys can figure it our so can the bad guys.
A friend who owns a machine shop told me to always drill very slow in stainless steel and hardened steel. You drilled to fast and that dulled your bit. You should have used a few drops of oil also. You should delete this video because the only thing it teaches us is not to hire you.
He's not showing what HE would do, he's showing what a criminal would do. And a criminal would NOT take their time and drill slow. Lol.
@FalconerPhoto as a locksmith? Maybe. But as a thief? He's giving an excellent demonstration of what WOULD happen - not what should.
If I were a criminal, I would've moved on to the next house. Which makes the secure locks more effective. Kudos to the company who manufactured this lock.
such a rookie man.....
Ok. So what do we use?.....
Wayne, I am very confused. This video started out great and I thought it was going to show how to drill out a lock, especially the Schlake with the hardened steel insert. But the video just ends. Is that the way it supposed to be?
that footage is not for the public. You can see me delete this ASSA lock along with Mul-T-Lock and Medeco on my private vetteted dedicated locksmith page www.wayneslockshop.com
By "vetted" you mean by sending you $$$. Right?
Hosting and monitoring a private page is expencive. For me. Really I think I'm pretty fair at $9.99 a month. Technly The site is still costing me more than I'm bringing in sor really it's charity work for me at this point.
No. Vetted means your a fellow industry professional. Anyone truly interested would know. Scammers wouldn't bother to respond 😉
Wayne Winton I assume you are looking for DCJS number and a subscription? Serious question, I'm a locksmith and I enjoy your content abs theres very little useful info for me on the UA-cam page, I'd be willing to pay for the quality content. Thanks Wayne
"How To Drill Out" a lock? What did you accomplish other than to ruin expensive drill bits in less than 5 minutes? I came looking for a video that will get my security door lock out of the door when the key won't work and I have no way to open the door. I can't replace the lock until I get it off of there.
I appreciate this video; seeing the deterrents was good, since I sometimes wonder how hard it is to drill out a deadbolt, or the best approach.
My one comment is the title implies that we'd see *how* to do it; so it feels incomplete. Otherwise great job and explanation.
great job? he strait up lied and did nothing he said he would in title clickbait
got ASSA V-10 on my home !
Best lock on the market
That is one seriously tough lock. Did it still work after all that?
Yep
That is why I have ASSA on my house.
try drilling from the side of the lock make starter holes with a click punch then drill from the side as there are no anti drill features there. maybe you can drill the sheer line like that. worth a try.
The problem is the key and driver pins are hardened as well, drilling out an Assa is not a viable option for either a locksmith or a criminal.
Hi Wayne thanks for your video,my niece suddenly needed my help because she forgot the keys inside her house.I thought i could easily lock pick the door knob,fashioning the stainless steel sheet and paper clips that i brought along, I was wrong, lock picking is a skill that you have to learn ! Well there should be another way,so since it was just a small house she told me that the key is just hanging at the stair case,so we resort to glass picking, removed the glass of the window and carefully 'fish for the key ,a long bamboo ang G.I. wire for the hook,what a joy after we got it before sundown,anyway lock picking is a must to learn at times like this.
Thanks again Wayne and cheers to you !
I've shopped Lowes and H.D. and I've never seen a dead bolt lock, double keyed or otherwise, marked 'High Security' on the package, much less explain what that means.
"You can see the hardened steel inserts in here." Nope.
Tile Bits
Plasma cutter, melt the lock in 5 seconds
Lol, can just see that one on the news, theif caught asking owner for 40a power for their their plasma cutter so you can melt their lock and rob them!
Could bring a bulldozer too, just take out a wall!
So what is the punchline how you actually do this
Look good 👧 for you 🏬🏃
I would like to know if - as of this date of July 20th 2018 -- Is the Abloy ProTec-2 still the #1 lock in the market.
I know 2 years ago over 30 locksmiths have ranked the Abloy ProTec-2 the #1 lock in the world for businesses and consumers. -- Is this still true as of todays date of writing this post ..??
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Also in regards to this video, criminals no longer tackle the lock straight on anymore, they go from the sides of the locks by what police departments are reporting.
Also people tend to forget that there is only 1/2 inch of wood thats protecting the house from criminals. And we need to address that part of the door entry first.
we can get all the best locks in the world, but if there is only 1/2 inch of wood that can be easily broken, locks wont matter. because criminals can just kick the door in.
it never showed us the entire video in the end
Jackcc5 it ended just where it needed to. join wayneslockshop.com to see the rest
Scam artist. Bait and switch.
I get this locks open it seconds All you have to do is as drill on the top of the deadbolt and then grab a pick and pull the latch and urine I do this all the time
With all high security locks
Ha Ha, the complainers don't GET IT! It will take over an hour and one battery to actually drill an Assa lock!!
Am I the only one who had the video cut off after the pilot holes were drilled? Didn't show how to get past the steel reinforcement.
Very nice and informative video. Thumbs up.
Kudos for having the coin to destroy all those expensive locks
cannonball666, he gets it from scamming and conning people.
3.33 wtf u on about it's clear u are moving the drill towards the left side u even started drilling from that side
Title reflects the video content = LIKES
Title does not reflect the video content and we don't learn shit = DISLIKES
How not to drill out a lock
You *FLUNK* this one, bud.
Just sharpen the "bit"
Why can't u use a red head cutter instead of drilling? It's cheaper then waisting all that money on drill bits you can cut it off at the bolts
seems to me you are drilling in the wrong place ,the lock manufacturers give you a head start and its the same with most locks, just look at the front of the lock and you will see how easy they make it for drilling out locks have fun and if you cant sus it out let me know yorky john
Get a good drill bit.
Love the show-and-tell videos. Manufacturer's hype & BHMA ratings aren't much help in comparing different brands of locks. I understand why you didn''t show MulTLock and Schlage Primus but could you us how they ranked in your testing compared to the ASSA with regards to drillability? In another review you said Schlage Primus was not resistant to drilling.
Also Schlage sells two versions of Primus XP cylinders. The tougher one, standard in their B800 series deadbolts, meets UL437 and is claimed to be more resistant to drilling and other physical attacks than the less expensive B700 cylinder. Which one are you testing and comparing in your videos?
I have drilled them all. ASSA always takes the longest. Followed medeco, Mul-T-Lock and then Schlage Primus with UL listed drill resisyance
Thanks for your prompt response and numerous helpful reviews.
I just use a portable disc, does the job, there isn’t really any other proper way to open it
Buy better drill bits, and use drilling wax to keep it from getting hot/melting, and drill slower, with slight bursts of speed, adding wax/dipping in water over and over to cool.
Just use a cutter on an angle grinder and slice the face of the lock off lol
I'm trying to figure out if you are helping or actually hurting the public by showing these kind of videos.
you tell me did it help you defete the lock?
Point taken Wayne! I was/am not trying to defeat these bad boys but many out there are and getting some great pointers, if you get what I'm saying. Hey, I like your videos and you actually helped me decide on a door lock. I was just commenting how some of these videos on the web might hurt the public by sending these tips and tricks to criminals (which I'm sure they already know anyway). Peace
Np
What happened?? Dude......
Your funny
J-CAT
LOL...
"So what I like to do is...
And that's the end of the video!"
Wtf was this even?
Painfull
HSS sucks. Get a geuhring carbide drill. Does not matter how hard the material is. Carbide does not care. Carbide will drill out the drill bit.
What happened??? "The hardened steel is gonna be a problem.". 5 holes later you give up with the cobalt bit and say "The hardened steel is gonna be a problem.". "what I like to do is use a ',mumble... Mumble mumble'..
Then "hey guys thats the end of the video ... " ???
What were you mumbling at the end?
How not to ...!?
just terrible, how much do you support the lock, when you hit the hardened steel, just keep drilling slowly, straight and not like an idiot. if hanrened steel is too much, hit it with a torch and let it call slowly it will make it softer it to some extent. just actually try
Read the description before you judge the video.
Just change the video title to why to buy a high security lock set. because you didn't drill out anything. And people will quit bagging on this video.
The lock is so good that he quit making the video.
WHY put a video of how to defeat high security locks? Thats frickin stupid. What happen to privacy and security.
Are you a locksmith? Follow some lessons in Europe.
Using crap drill and crap bits with no cutting oil and you keep stopping. Youre not fooling anyone
WTF?
Thanks for nothing!
Wish I could give 100 👎or more
report fake vids like this so they are taken down
🥲 not the right headline for this video , i am still waiting for the drillout . have a great one !
Also worst camera manning evar!
Your video title was how to drill out five high security locks. You didn’t drill out a single one. I don’t think you ever have. Why would you go on UA-cam and pretend to know what you’re doing. Learn first, do it. Then you’ll be qualified to teach.
I didn't bother reading the other posts. If you use oil or grease as a lubricant you will not only go through that lock twice as fast but you will increase the life of that drill bit 10 fold. As a bonus learn how to film and clean up that pig sty. Other than that your video sucked.
Bill Randolph Obviously you don’t know shit about locks jack ass. You can use all the oil or grease that you want… Harden pins means it’s harder than your drill bit and you won’t drill through it without the proper bit.
This has to be a fake video.
dude i wasted like 8 minutes of my life on this trying to figure out if I can drill thru grade 2 locks
Very bad
WTF ?? piss poor video shame on you,. BTW, breaking a window is faster, easier and cheaper.
You did nothing! what a waste of time
Worthless