It's enough that some apps refuse to work with unlocked bootloader's (which at least I can somewhat understand why) But disabling hardware components is straight up ridiculous, if they're gonna treat enthusiasts like that then why even bother offering the bootloader unlock option in the first place?
I get it Hugh, I would be pissed also, but honestly I'm not one of those people that spends time trying to run different OS' on devices, but I still get the point
At this point they might as well not offer bootloader unlocking if that's the case They're basically just teasing you "Hey, want to tweak the 2k dollar phone you just bought?" "Well, say goodbye to your cameras, sucker"
I highly doubt companies are purposely waiting to ruin your day when you try to root. They don’t care. They write the code to be as secure as possible, this is why these things happen. Enough already.
@@RolandKoller90 Did you watch the same video I did? I mean the one you are commenting one. He didn't even alter the phone's software and the cameras stopped working, how is this security related?
It's like an auto manufacturer saying, "Yeah you can change your own oil, but if you do you wont be able to roll down your windows anymore. It's for security reasons, I hope you understand."
that's literally the thing printer manufacturers have been doing for about 15 years. You replacing the paint or toner on your own? Screw that. The cartridge is non-genuine anymore. You have to buy a new one every time you run out of paint. Literally like buying a new fuel tank for your car every time you go to a gas station.
The fuck does the study of the relationships between living organisms, including humans, and their physical environment have to do with phones? WTF Apple, using a phone isn't harmful to nature! I guess if you drop it an an ant or another person...but still, the point remains.
@@Mario583a it's the production of the phone I think, it's not exactly the most environmentally friendly thing and Apple was trying to make sure the most environmentally friendly parts were being used only still though, it's painful to see this micromanagement of hardware progress over time
"Unlocking the bootloader compromises your security, so we'll also disable more security features" If you're actually worried about my security, seems counter-intuitive to arbitrarily make it even more insecure
Me, to Samsung: "You thinking you know what's better for my safety and security than I do is insulting, demeaning, and has removed me from your pool of potential customers. I'll enjoy getting a different phone, you enjoy not getting my money"
@@dolfies It is not and likely won't ever be. Restrictions done through the bootloader/firmware function at a _very_ low level, akin to the BIOS/EFI of a computer with additional hardware based signature checks because the ARM platform does not need backward compatibility unlike computers. This means the stock bootloader will keep enforcing this policy and you have no way to replace the bootloader itself (not even by replacing the firmware chips, due to hardware level signature checks burned into the CPU itself). At this point, short of Samsung releasing a new signed bootloader that disables this functionality, there will be no realistic way around this.
As someone who collects vintage electronics, I'm worried that in the future, theres going to be a gap in the vintage electronics market, nobodies going to have anything after 2015 for future generations because it will all have broken, or will have been thrown out because they would just buy new ones. Imagine if things in the past werent able to be repaired, we'd have NO antique radios or televisions... Nothing to pass on to future generations...
I feel you, I really regret getting rid of my iPod 4th Gen man just because the screen broke, but I was really young at the time and didn’t know anything about repairing, and now it’s my favorite hobby I’ve picked up after watching Hugh, Jerryrig, and odd tinkering.
@@devinwilson8103 my mom bought her iPod in 2007 and used it for years. A couple years ago she was going to throw it out because nobody used it- safe to say she ended up giving it to me- it still worked! Just shows that once people move on they really dont care about some of their old things...
That has already happened with software and games since everything is always online drm and downloaded from someone's services or locked down consoles, no one can repair
There are those of us out there who, for a hobby, go through the programming and fix bullshit like this and then release custom firmware to make everything work again, and on our terms, for free. Those kinds of people are true heroes!
I remember when my bank updated their app in 2014 to block anyone using a phone that had been rooted. I started only ising my browser to access online banking and still do to this day, yet everytime I go to their website oj my phone they complain that I should be using the app instead. This is just a more extreme version of that, forcing people to use specific firmware so they can have control over you.
I will help you out mate. I have thought about this long enough. Buy an entry level iphone or samsung device. Let them have control over that. As for your entertainment, downloads, productivity etc, get a high end xiaomi phone and install a custom ROM (Lineage or, calyx Os)...
@@manm5302 If you're crazy, you can also get a used OnePlus 6T and flash postmarketOS onto it and have what I think is the most powerful Linux "phone" ever for your productivity, etc. I put "phone" in quotes because there's still no drivers for making phone calls :(
my bank also did something similar but not that bad. If you're phone is rooted you can't use fingerprint to unlock, only enter password witch is fine by me.
Especially since a lot of people want to change their android skin. It’s just kind of odd since what’s the point? It’s not like they’re losing money by not doing this.
@@alexteixeira27 that's actually false. Not even Apple is this evil (at least when it comes to software modifications). With iPhone, you could jailbreak it (when a jailbreak is available) and use all the functionalities available. Apple doesn't go out of their way to disable the camera or anything else just because you jailbroke your phone. A jailbroken iPhone works just as fine as a non-jailbroken one, with the only difference is the cydia mods installed.
@@mapl3mage right. they do something worse; brick your phone for trying to repair it. id rather be banned from bootloading my phone than banned from repairing it
@@dueradiotelevisione nah not really, If they were. They wouldn't be making Foldable phone or flip phone or Upgrading from 60hz screen and Anything that apple has
@@dueradiotelevisione you want water and a modicum of dust resistance on top of being a foldable and then complain about this reality? You people will never be happy even if you get exactly what you ask for. Get a life, loser.
@@PS-ub8st People hate apple not because of the hardware stuff, but the software itself, IOS is very difficult to share files and even using ftp, while android can do all of those very easily, and even can change rom. That's why android user never be an apple user because people using android focus on the software stuff. Samsung's bootloader disable camera function is something preventing people to root their phone or try to do something new, which is not an android user wanted to see, what if in the future, samsung disabled most of the stuff to prevent people unlock bootloader? If that's happening, then there will be no reason to use android at all
@@dueradiotelevisione Apple is making gimmicky folding phones?! I must see this! Also Apple is hardware locking their cameras after jail breaking their phones?! I must see this! You Android fanatics will blame EVERYTHING on Apple lol. It’s quite sad yet humorous to see.
i love how ironic samsung phones are they keep making fun of apple being a "environment friendly" yet theyre just following apple's ridiculous phone ideas
It's because companies require money to run. Companies, like Samsung, would laugh at Apple for doing dumb things, but then act like they never insulted Apple when they realized Apple was making more money. Apple removed the headphones jack and released AirPods, companies like Samsung makes fun of Apple, companies like Samsung realize the AirPods are making Apple a ton of money, companies like Samsung follows what Apple did. TL;DR: greed
@@FharishAhmedPortfolio I'm sorry my dude, if I bothered you. I did searched couple of times before and did not found the video. Hence posting this comment.
@@dennisp8520 not much of a fan of Chinese products myself... I would prefer HTC but ... Sony isn’t a bad option though here basically I can’t find any on contract. Here where I live in Germany it’s a bunch of Chinese phones Samsung or iPhone that’s about it
@@dennisp8520 just buy what feature you want and and change the rom with no bloatware or just flash AOSP that's it you have phone with no connections to China with software
@@panagiotispappas1001 The idea was that when parking in an unsafe area, one could simply remove the tiny and thin radio bar. Anyone who broke into the car wouldn't be able to hotwire the car and drive away.
My daughter bought a budget version from the same manufacturer I'd bought a at the time high end device 70% of the functions for 30% of the price more or less.
Tbh you can get a decent phone for like 200 dollars or so, in my instance I bought a refurbished OnePlus 7 pro for less than 300 which is still better spec wise than the galaxy note 9 so you don't exactly need a dirt cheap phone to compete with the newer devices
Fascinating how you can already see where the screen is eventually going to break right out of the box even before the thing was folded for the first time
What will happen once you need to replace your old phone and all phones become locked down and restricted like the iphone and this new fold? I don't like where we are going.
@@romevang Exactly my thoughts on this development going on. Where is there something that goes back to how things were a decade ago but with the performance of today?
Remember when Samsung phones came with chargers, headphone jacks, earbuds and MicroSD card slots? Sure! It wasn't that long ago. I hate Samsung's pulling an Apple job. I used to respect them. Now?
@@HughJeffreys i still have the s8 i blught 3 years ago. It has a new battery and charging port, but the OLeD has some burn-in when on white display, where the FB bar on top and the buttons on the bottom have been printed on the display. Can this be solved in any othee way than replacing the panel? The phone is mint on the putside and it would be a shame to pull it apart again.
I believe Samsung Electronics secretly replaced their board of directors some time in 2018 or 2019 with people who prioritise short-term profits above all else (including customer satisfaction).
Thank you for doing this, Hugh. It really pains me to see how we are slowly but surely losing our rights to be able to add custom firmware to our phones. I was really looking into doing that with the next phone I get, so I don't think I'll be getting this one!
@@universe2170 Some people buy phones to use their own preferred software, but most of the people that does would probably be buying Xiaomi devices as after they're unlocked they retain the full functionality, as well as active developer communities for most of their phones.
@@universe2170 are you really okay with them taking away basic features "because it's new?" what happens when it's 3yrs old? There are a lot of XDA people that naturally load custom ROMs on any device they plan on using.
i added a ustom firmware to my galaxy note 7 before I upgraded, the guys who made the firmware couldn't get the face recognition to work which I liked about the phone... but I still installed it for more application support, still have the same note 7
Small clarification at 7:07 about the fuse. The fuse is not software based. It actually burns out a trace in the knox IC/CPU physically. That's why unlocked Samsung phones with tripped knox are not covered under warranty. It is not possible to revert that via software. In that case the only thing left is to replace the motherboard.
"I don't want Facebook, Uber, or whatever else you're forcing on me and I want an Adblocker." Samsung: "Do you hate ads and Facebook more than you like using your Camera?"
@@Donutking17000 cameras are kinda important and I don't know how you don't use it. I regularly message take photos to email to say my dry wall guy to show him what's wrong or to scan QR codes for 2FA set-up. There is also obviously video calling people and just recording meetings
Honestly, I believe you can just use ADB to fully delete apps (or at least completely disable them), I've done it for all the Facebook apps. I don't know about adblockers though
@@xeienar Not saying that you shouldn't be allowed to install whatever os you want on a device that you want to fit your needs but from a safety perspective, something can contaminate your install just by being done from the device you're using to load it on the phone or the worst possible thing being that the image was doomed from the start by being infected by viruses finding itself into a lot of places floating around.
@@TheRealFobican if you don't know LinerageOS is trusted publisher but have to gave up Samsung flagship for quite sometime now. Samsung and Apple just want people to suck their toes instead of go to third party repair shop, and they know those who brought their flagship are more than willing to spend for overprice repair or buy new one but less likely to open bootloader. The same people bring their phone to third party repair shop when the shop tell them they cannot be fix because the company have locked some feature needed for the fix, they often blame the shop of not doing their job and waste of time or listen to company:"repair shops fucked your phone so your camera is now broken". I mean if they want to stop you from install shady OS why dont lock the bootloader indefinitely instead of purposely vandalize your phone. In contrast, most of those unlock their bootloader to install custom ROM are savvy enough to know what they are doing already.
First they copy apple with headphone jack, deletes Facebook post about it, did the same with charger and notch (with A series and M series) and now this. Now I only have hope in Sony.
@@axethepenguin LOL LOOK THAT PHONE YOU CANT USE YOUR HEADPHONES, LOOK YOU DONT GET THE CHARGER ANYMORE LOLOLOLOL, Next year: Guys we want to me more "eco friendly" so now you dont get a charger too when paying more than 1000 bucks!!!!, and no headphone jack either, time to embrace "modernity' The hypocrisy is just *chef kiss*
Reminds me of when I had a Sony XZ Premium. If I used a third party camera app, I was limited to 8mp or less. Glad to be on a Google Pixel now where the only annoying thing I have to worry about is the purposely disabled USB video output.
@@axethepenguin Samsung never use bathtub notch, they're following Chinese brands which they use teardrop, also only A32 and the M-series has notch, A52 and A72 has punch hole
go for a xiaomi oppo vivo or oneplus phone or if you dont care about google play services get a huawei there are good options outside of samsung i never owned a samsung smartphone in my life though my first "dumb" phone was a samsung i had an iphone 4s at one point but now i am on a redmi note7 and i really dont get why people pay 1000+ $ for a phone to browse social media my 200 $ phone can do all that just fine
@@SimonBauer7 na dude Samsung phones are legit but with the way that they’re moving I rather get a Sony I would honestly love to get a Xiaomi way over a Sony butttt here in the USA they don’t work that well because they don’t sell them here you have to import and the service is spotty so a Sony works for me.
@@SimonBauer7 the issue is that they are Chinese phones which I believe privacy conscious people doesn’t trust Chinese phones though even if it has no google apps so it’s a problem but I got nothing against any smartphone brand.
That really sucks. If I ruin the processing on my Fold-3 camera, that should be my problem. If Samsung had left the cameras enabled, I'm sure this video would have instead been about how terrible the camera works if we install a different ROM. Kinda similar to Right to Repair. We don't need companies watching out for our better interest. Leave us be.
They’re never after our best interest, this covers their asses, if they don’t let you install a 3rd party display without breaking the phone, you wont be able to sell the phone with a shitty display, and the person who would’ve gotten that phone won’t leave a bad review because they thought that was the original display.
Also if I'm installing custom OS surely I know what I'm doing and I know what I'm losing, so why would do that? There is something underneath. It could be even possible that Samsung is spying on us or they really don't want to see headlines like "FBI broke into Samsung phone". I don't know.
@@riley5114 on the topic of money the argument could be had that Samsung is better off letting people use their phones for longer like Apple does because they can generate money in other ways through various services. Like their Samsung pay that they made useless or something like that
They are protecting themselves yes, but they're protecting themselves from idiots who don't know what they're doing, who would brick their phone and then try to blame samsung.
This just reinforces my theory of Samsung Electronics having secretly replaced their board of directors some time in 2018 or 2019 with people who prioritise short-term profits above all else (including customer satisfaction)! Ugh! I hope they get bad PR for this, after which they'll probably get their PR team to lie to the public.
Just check out their S series sales... its shrinking and that speaks not the marketing department. They dig their own grave, and I hope they sit next to LG in the next few years, just because for their arrogance.
@@LaidBackDeveloper That defeats the whole purpose. You unlock it so you can install other software, enable more functions, modify settings and install custom ROMS. Can't do any of that if the bootloader is locked.
One of the things people choose Samsung over Apple was the ease of repairability, now that they took the path of Apple, nothing will keep people from switching to Apple products.
LOL, samsung phones have been always more expesive to repair and harder to open. iphones are the most easy to open and with very cheap spare parts available. samsung HAS NEVER been a good option if you want to repair them
@@arkvsi8142 A ver p ê ń d ë j o, literal me dedico a reaparición de teléfonos, Samsung nadie quiere reparar por lo caro de sus repuestos, lo difícil que es abrirlos y por lo frágiles que son, se rompen con solo mirar esas pantallas OLED. Por otro lado la manera de abrir los iPhones es súper sencilla y puedes trabajar todos los componentes internos sin problema luego de separar la pantalla.
@@OhQueBacan in ves ti ga.........tu a+no... Y después la vinculación de partes de iphone y lo que pasa si las cambias y lo que debes comprar para tratar de que sirva.
@@arkvsi8142 no estás involucrado en el area, solo estas hablando con las nalgas, cuando cambias una pieza funciona perfectamente, a partir del iPhone 11 te notifica que la pieza ha sido cambiada, es un dolor de cabeza explicárselo a algunos giles como tú, pero en nada afecta al uso. Puede hacer varias cosas para by pasear esta alerta, pero al final del día es solo una alerta, a unos les jode que aparezca, pero es lo qué hay, me encantaría que no fuera así, pero debo admitir que en nada afecta al uso del teléfono.
I'm so glad we have good consumer law in the UK. If the phone is kept in good condition and the screen cracks or splits, the retailer would have to get it repaired or refund purchase price (possibly pro rata) up to 6 years from purchase date. Better still buy on finance or UK credit and the card / finance company is jointly liable for the repairs.
No wonder people in the UK hold on to their phones for so long! Because it still works 😂 when phones in the US get so damaged, it's less of a hassle to just get a new one.
you still have to prove its not your fault, after 2 years (which is eu law) generally samsung will ask you to prove you didnt fuck it up or refuse to do anything as they legally dont have to do anything until professionally proven its their device issue other companies, like amazon, apple, and nintendo will have this practice after just 6 months, since we no longer in EU. uk law states that from 6 months to 6 years its your own responsibility to prove whos wrong ;)
Surely they could just use 2 screens and design a hinge that leaves little to no bezel between the screens for the same convertable effect, since you can see the crease anyway. I can see flexible screens being useful at some point but using a soft plastic screen like this on a phone is just asking for trouble, the tech is just not there yet
There is absolutely no correlation to apple blocking it via software because of third party repair, and rooting an android phone, if anything this is closer to a console blocking
This is pretty common information. Samsung devices have an e-fuse which is triggered when you unlock the bootloader. This disables all Samsung Knox features such as Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder and so on. If you're interested in unlocking/flashing custom ROMs then Samsung is not the recommended brand for you.
Google Apps also rely on e-fuse. Google Pay wont work if your knox is triggered. Also magisk could hide the knox status and root at some point. Not sure if now.
As someone using a custom rom on a samsung s10e, after flashing the rom i use all of those things still work fine i actively use secure folder and never had a single issue
@@mamaluigi294 That is safe to do only if your device is out of warranty. Because there's no way of resetting that fuse once it's blown. Say bye bye to your warranty if your device is new. Even then you need to jump through a lot of hurdles such as rooting the device and faking Knox status through Magisk to use Samsung apps. Way too much headache for a casual user who would like to experience different ROMs without rooting.
@@meow2148 actually, about a year ago i send the phone in after resetting and relocking the bootloader because the sim card slot stopped working and it got replaced and i didnt have to pay anything. All coverred under warranty
Saying " just buy a new brand". Is not a solution, I bought the phone, I should own it, they shouldn't disable features out of pure control, there's no "security" Reason whatsoever that would justify this action.
Profits. They saw Apple remove it and sales actually went up. Now the ZFlip 3 and ZFold 3 are flying off of shelves. They're exploiting people who don't realize that a charger is a fundamental part while passing off the environment argument.
I suppose in some way they are able to put a few more phones in theirs containers when shipping them because the box is smaller and that they probably save a bit of money by not including it so more profits, Im probably a rare case of I dont need another charging brick because I already have a drawer full of charging bricks and cables
@@mousecursor0 I doubt it's $5 dollars. The mass printed circuit boards, tiny prongs, and the cheap plastic casing is probably sub $3. Especially with the quality of some cables (the 12 apple cables I have that are shredded) I don't think it's high.
I already saw Louis Rossmann's video about this, but to see it happen brings another level of frustration to it. I'm glad I abandoned Samsung a few years ago, they've become a completely rotten company. And no, unlike other commenters, I have no concessions for Samsung. This is completely indefensible.
I had a Samsung galaxy 3, 4, and a 6 edge. At that moment I switched because Samsung wasn't the same. And to see als these things happening since then, I am glad I switched to another Phone company
@@HazeRaidZBI what is "wasn't the same" for you? I'm using J5 2015 back then at 2015-2017, idk much about samsung, but their os management is really terrible for me, just average user not into gaming, but my phone got so laggy😅
same .. in my family 3 people including me bought galaxy s6 edge .. everything was super smooth .. for maybe 2 years .. right after warranty ended all of them started to lag heavily and later on died and never turned back on. Now tell me this is coincidence omegalul .. all three phones dead after 2 years. Now im running iPhone X and its still faster than anything that camw out when X released.
It is standard for the software to reset once you unlock the bootloader. But this is definitely a first where the hardware pieces have been disabled when the bootloader is unlocked! It is strange that Samsung is now jumping on the Apple bandwagon..
Sony also did the with the XZ2, and it would stay non-functional even after locking the bootloader. They did however remove the limitation in android 9/10 update I believe, at that point I unlocked my device and all the cameras were fully functional.
Fair most people enjoy the stock experience and there is nothing wrong with that, the issue is, punishing and crippling functionality for the people that don't is just a practice that is getting ridiculous in all markets. Its like you wanting to install another operating system on your pc, heck lets say you want to use windows 7, there are people still on that, and the board just disables something because "security". OR lets say windows finally decides to block all apps that dont come from windows store, and if you do they disabled your speakers. Or car not wanting to turn on because you replaced the radio or something else with a different brand. Lets not look that far back, the right to repair initiative they did in Massachusetts, so you could keep taking you car to a third party mechanic and the car not being crippled from it, the only argument they had was, "NOOO DONT GO TO THIRD PARTY MECHANIC THEY WILL RAPE YOU LATER IN A PARKING LOT, KEEP YOUR DATA SAFE" and was an actual ad ran on tv and on youtube, they took it down, can still be found on youtube. You paid for it, you own it, you deserve to do whatever you want with it, if you break it by tinkering with it, thats fine thats on you the company should not be held responsible for that, if you dont wanna tinker with it, its fine too, its your device. You should not get punished if you decide to do something different or open it or repair it yourself or with a third party service, specially since all companies copy each other's homework, Apple got away with it, John deere tractor company did too, Ford, Tesla, even in military contracts and health services, there are products that cost 50k dollars, one little thing breaks, and you are forced to buy the whole thing, even if the thing that broke is 1k dollars.
@Hugh Jeffreys Is there a list of disabled when repaired/altered devices somewhere? If not, could you please start one? I never want to buy one new or used.
Might be too expensive but will you get another one or 2 Z Flip 3's and board swap them to see what gets disabled like the other phones such as the 12 in the past?
If I started a hardware company, this would be my philosophy: A great product at a reasonable price. Make schematics, instructions, and parts available at a reasonable price. Offer support to assist people with their own repairs (again, at a reasonable price). Respect my customers and their rights. There would be no aftermarket parts for my products, because nobody is going to want to choose 3rd party over OEM when there's little to no price difference. Take care of my staff like family, and cap my own salary (and other execs) to $1M/yr. I could be wrong, but I feel like I would make enough to pay my employees extremely well, re-invest back into my company, and still have enough to live a more than comfortable life for myself.
Great video Hugh .... from what i can tell from the repairing aspect they are disabling the cameras because they really don't want people using an unlocked bootloader. It is less secure, its a push to be more like Apple, Samsung assume having seen people buy Apple products for that reason they think people will make the switch IMO.
Yeah maybe it is less secure but they should’ve just give people a warning that their phone is going to be less secure rather than disabling the camera at the end of the day it is their device and they can do anything they want to it
Garbo like this is why I think my S21 is going to be my last Samsung for a bit unless they course correct. They've regressed more and more over the years. Like it used to be that all Galaxy S devices sold in the US were pretty much universal and you could flash different firmwares on them to enable compatibility for other carriers, but as of the S21, they locked that option out almost entirely for the carrier models. Sadly, no one but a select few of us seem to actually care about it.
I think same that but for me that my s20 FE 4G is going to be the last Samsung phone I'll ever own if Samsung continues to turn into Apple 2.0 by doing the same greedy, money hungry and anti-consumer practices as Apple.
Im leaving Samsung after about 8 years and my 4th device. They burned me with the S20 FE Exynos and I hate that they went down the Apple route with their devices. There is more value for less money on the market. Once my contract runs out, Im gone.
or go on the used phones market. you gan get very good bargains there. i blught a iphone x second hand for only 250$ last year and i am happy with it. Fullbox and not one scratch on it. Battery was replaced on it and works perfectly, for what i need is more than enough for 2 years
I can sort of see it from both sides though. They're kind of taking a "walled garden" approach and are keeping people using the software they intended for their vision of the device. Flashing other software means that users aren't going to receive that experience. While yes it is the user's decision to do so, it kind of removes some liability from Samsung should this detract people from changing the software. There's always going to be some users who although warned that the process of gaining root access voids their warranty, that are going to still insist on Samsung being held liable.
As someone who up until the start of this year, worked for Samsung's servicing department...I can 100% vouch for this statement. The amount of times I was verbally abused for telling a customer that Samsing's warranty policy requires complete PBA board replacement to fix them fucking up their phone via custom os software installations was ridiculous 😆. It clearly states it in the warranty, and the Knox Lock backdoor trigger stays tripped even if you reinstall the original software trying to pull a fast one. The techs would take one look and hand it back to us lol South Koreans don't play that game
Keep in mind that even if Samsung disables the camera from being used, that doesn’t necessarily mean the camera can’t be used in the background without your knowledge.
I've seen Samsung & Asus do this on their new phones - perhaps to not disclose what camera sensors were used(to keep it secret from competitors) . Camera2API would be disabled in stock rom in intial few versions & many years later it might be enabled. Also root/custom rom would allow you to see the camera drivers/sensor names.
Samsung yet again imitating everything people hate about Apple. Smh. Havent had a Samsung phone for years and years, their ecosystem just feels.. hollow, lazy, toy-like and just ..bad No wonder people hate Samsung. They're just trying so hard to be Apple 2 instead of being their own thing, but they only manage to replicate their mistakes. Thank fuck there are way more options than just Samsung in the flagship market. I'm currently rocking an OP 8pro, samsung and apple are two companies i just flat out refuse to support.
I've stuck with Motorola for a long time after I had a really bad experience with a Galaxy S3.... (showing my age a bit lol) I do have a couple of Samsung products, but I will never buy another phone from them again.
That disabling things because you turned something on should be banned, "Okay, you want to unlock bootloader? You have it, but we will take away your cams, and we not even gonna tell you that!" i will not be surprised if people will be so mad at this that they will move back to good ol' button phones
1. No one is forcing you to buy their products. 2. If they tell you there is nothing wrong with it. 3. If people care nough they will lose profits and its gonna backfire. 4. They make the product so they decide what they want to do with it and you are willingly buying it.
I remember Samsung did want to try something like this with the Galaxy S7, at least from some rumours in China. But on my Exynos model I saw no such problems, not even a warning message on boot, but of course Samsung security software are all gone, which is a worthy tradeoff for getting OneUI
I managed to unlock my Snapdragon S7, which was not supposed to work, and I was able to root and flash custom firmware on it. I eventually reinstalled Android Oreo back on it but it amazed me that my US variant actually got jail-broken. Apparently the US S7 had a permanently locked bootloader but I unlocked it!
@@evil1st Well that would then be the situation with Snapdragon variants outside of US, like Chinese variants, which they have unlocked bootloader and root access, but nearly zero ROM development and definitely no OneUI ROM unfortunately...
8:09, well it does Hugh, because the fingerprint scanner doesn't take photos of your face so your finger print doesn't pose a threat to your personal identification, whereas payment and password apps along with cameras can be used to steal data
It's a good idea to appear in front of the camera by yourself, but do something with the sound. The sound is ok when it is voice over and there is a strong echo when you speak in the frame
HTC offers an official bootloader unlocker, while Google also lets you unlock the phone by following a few simple steps. It's also possible to unlock the bootloader on a Huawei, but it apparently requires paying the company for an unlock code.
Seems like Samsung shouldve just disabled the ability to lock the bootloader in the first place. A strange decision, but I haven't used custom ROMs for over half a decade now. Looking forward to getting my Z Fold 3 on Monday!
I mean, this is the same company who once told me that they will "factory reset" my device to repair a broken speaker. The device itself was so pitiful to me it decided to repair itself within a few hours after I declined them from factory resetting it.
This is utter BS on samsungs part. I am proudly still running an S5, but crap like this means I won't ever buy another Samsung device. I also will not recommend samsungs to anyone I know, maybe my enemies though.
I switched away from only having Samsung smartphones to OnePlus. Best choice ever. Now I have a phone that still works without big issues after almost 2 years
@@niggamaster9139 I worked 45-60hr weeks all summer at a landscape supply place making a very reasonable wage, my net worth is 10x that of everyone I know because I am a chronic saver. As a teen I don't have expenses and thus I could "afford" to buy a couple of these Fold 3s, but then I wouldn't have $3,000,000 in the bank when I retire. I would also be directly supporting a company that is actively taking away my freedom to do what I want to my devices. So I will stay on my S5 until it breaks, then I will buy another one, as a protest to the state of the smartphone industry.
@@Carterthielftw_ u wont be heaving 3mill in the bank ,at that time America will be destroyed by democrats ,so go ahead stop being greedy and buy new phone
I always assumed it was to protect their intellectual property, when you mentioned the security apps refusing to work after the triggered it screamed they're trying to protect something. If I had to guess it's there under screen fingerprint software. Other companies are going to figure it out but they want to be the only one with it for a while.
i dont really know why they're doing this, probably because all their camera libraries in /vendor are all private. its hard to get a working camera on newer samsung flagships on a custom rom, but i never expected them to totally disable the hardware even without tampering yet. no magisk, no custom kernel, all stock. just an unlocked bootloader. dont worry though, im sure xda will find a workaround.
Why don't banks disable payments on Windows? Programs on Windows are not isolated from each other. Why you can install other operating system on pc and you can't on phones, or else you get degraded experience?
@@circuit10 People wanted more security, so they implemented Knox encryption between drivers and sensors. When u wiped the device u wiped the keys too so the drivers can no longer communicate with your cameras and nfcs.
@@circuit10 I'm not saying it's more secure to disable cam. I'm saying for a usual folk not planning to root a phone, camera being encrypted is a good thing. The not being able to use camera due to wiping of the phone when bootloader unlocked is a bad side of such a practice.
This is probably because they would like to collect telemetry and data on how you use their new phone and form factor, a custom rom would hinder this, so they try to deter you as much as possible
IMO they just do it to discourage you from unlocking the bootloader. Its the same with knox, google pay and all the other apps getting disabled too. They do it under the guise of security, but I don't believe they give a crap about you or your security. They just don't want you to replace their OS with your own version.
Yeah and Xiaomi allows to unlock the bootloader, install any ROM you want, but if you want to sell it or just restore it to original condition, you can close it back and flash the original ROM on the phone like nothing happened. This is a very strong reason for me to my next phone to be Xiaomi as well.
As a person that has a rooted Samsung device all I can say is that the process of rooting (at least for my device) is complete pain and it took me around three days of trial and error to fully root it and disable stuff like storage encryption and etc. Also a good thing is that I managed to enable back Secure Folder and Samsung Health.
if it took you that long to root a phone, you had no idea what youre doing. Looking for the right stuff in the right places ("know how") will get it done in less than 10 minutes.
@@Sharpless2 It's not that I didn't know what I was doing, it was the fact that there was almost no information. After a lot of trial and error I learned that for my phone I had to switch to an older software version in order to prevent some bricks that were happening when installing a recovery. Then I had to fight with the encryption because it was really hard and annoying to disable it and finally because that trips the knox security I had to find a workaround to be able to use some samsung apps. I in you case your device has a bigger community and therefore information on rooting is easier to find.
I bought a Pixel 4XL second-hand from a refurbishing company where they obviously use custom bootloaders, but unfortunately didn't relock it before sending it to me. What happens with Google is that you can no longer use the NFC module to make payments, the cameras all still work though. Disabling the NFC makes sense though, as you wouldn't want people to forge credit cards with their phones.
You have companies like samsung who tries to own the device after you bought it, and then, there are companies like xiaomi, if you unlock the bootloader on your xiaomi device, they are the only one still giving you a warranty, even if you screw up the phone by soft bricking it, xiaomi will re-install the miui os for you, for free!! How cool is that? I don't want a samsung anymore, i had a samsung before the xiaomi, the samsung always stayed at home, like a land line sorta. Something went wrong with the touchscreen, it wouldn't react sometimes anymore, i brought it into the shop i bought it from, i claimed a warranty swap, but they said 'sorry mate, the device is water damaged!', this device wasn't even in my pocket, it sat on my desk, where i don't bring liquids! Samsung is a joke, they try to screw you over! It is a right to root/jailbreak your phone! Insane! Its just BS!
Some years ago my mum and I switched to Xiaomi, and I can only describe our experience as simply the worst thing in the world. Both devices broke after only a year of use, one due to battery issues and the other one because of a damaged charge connector. Opened them up just to find they don't even use glue on these pieces of garbage and hold them together with plastic clips. So yeah, we moved to Samsung's A series after that and never looked back. There's a reason Xiaomi costs so little... Don't think you're saving money, coz you're not 💀
@@khawajashaharyar9294 exception in china version it has better software than global version if you don't want that you can install a custom rom software
I'm not saying I justify this but for a little clarity, since the software after unlocking cannot be controlled, they can no longer guarantee safety or security, and disable the cameras to prevent people from hacking and gaining personal information and suing them. It's stupid, a bandaid, and ineffective, but I'm pretty sure that's their logic.
It is a foldable phone, that isn't really optimized for other OS, so realistically no one would do this, but it is weird that the cameras are disabled.
i dont really know in which way they lock it, maybe they dont initialize them on boot. i think a custom boootloader would solve that, not sure though edit: samsung addressed this issue since firmware version ZUKA, cameras will still work after unlocking the bootloader
5:54 I understand payment and password apps not working, as an unlocked bootloader prevents android from detecting software integrity, so that will cause concern for security issues. The cameras perhaps not necessary, but will prevent them from being hijacked by 3rd party malicious software that can now be present. These are probably the likely causes
It's a dumb move by Samsung, but I still love the darn thing. It's been my favorite phone to date, and since I have zero interest in unlocking the bootloader, it's all good for my use case. I stopped installing custom ROMs back in the galaxy S3 days, didn't know it was still a thing.
Its like putting new wheels on your car and the stereo no longer works.
First like yay
Anyways I think it's stupid on why companies do This, like what even is the point the only thing they from you money
What does the ACCC say about this trend I wonder ?
More like opening the hood and the headlights no longer work
It's enough that some apps refuse to work with unlocked bootloader's (which at least I can somewhat understand why)
But disabling hardware components is straight up ridiculous, if they're gonna treat enthusiasts like that then why even bother offering the bootloader unlock option in the first place?
I get it Hugh, I would be pissed also, but honestly I'm not one of those people that spends time trying to run different OS' on devices, but I still get the point
Manufacturers seems to really hate people having control over their own devices. It’ll be interesting to how this…unfolds. 😬
At this point they might as well not offer bootloader unlocking if that's the case
They're basically just teasing you
"Hey, want to tweak the 2k dollar phone you just bought?"
"Well, say goodbye to your cameras, sucker"
I highly doubt companies are purposely waiting to ruin your day when you try to root. They don’t care. They write the code to be as secure as possible, this is why these things happen. Enough already.
@@RolandKoller90 Did you watch the same video I did? I mean the one you are commenting one. He didn't even alter the phone's software and the cameras stopped working, how is this security related?
To me, it's a sign that the manufacturer only cares about their bank accounts.
@@RolandKoller90 are you a lobbyist or something?
It's like an auto manufacturer saying, "Yeah you can change your own oil, but if you do you wont be able to roll down your windows anymore. It's for security reasons, I hope you understand."
that's literally the thing printer manufacturers have been doing for about 15 years. You replacing the paint or toner on your own? Screw that. The cartridge is non-genuine anymore. You have to buy a new one every time you run out of paint.
Literally like buying a new fuel tank for your car every time you go to a gas station.
@@wrmusic8736 Corporations rule the world
Very well put
@@wrmusic8736 well... that's their bussines model. They sell printers for cheap and get the actual revenue from comically overpriced color cartriges.
I like companies' excuses: Samsung says that it's for "security purposes" and apple says that it's for "ecology"
And I say it's all corporate bs, stop giving us crap and give us what we want
The fuck does the study of the relationships between living organisms, including humans, and their physical environment have to do with phones? WTF Apple, using a phone isn't harmful to nature! I guess if you drop it an an ant or another person...but still, the point remains.
@@Mario583a it's the production of the phone I think, it's not exactly the most environmentally friendly thing and Apple was trying to make sure the most environmentally friendly parts were being used only
still though, it's painful to see this micromanagement of hardware progress over time
it kinda makes sense in samsungs thing. bootloading the thing might have 3rd party apps looking at your face
Normal people say it's for "money"
"Unlocking the bootloader compromises your security, so we'll also disable more security features"
If you're actually worried about my security, seems counter-intuitive to arbitrarily make it even more insecure
Me, to Samsung: "You thinking you know what's better for my safety and security than I do is insulting, demeaning, and has removed me from your pool of potential customers. I'll enjoy getting a different phone, you enjoy not getting my money"
Not your security, but the security of their ‘secure’ apps like bank stuff
@@paulsd9255 thats my own problem, NOT theirs. But hurr durr it could put a bad image on the company if a samsung phone is hacked hurr durr.
Yet the fingerprint sensor still frickin works perfectly.
@@Sharpless2 You just said exactly why it becomes their problem - the optics of allowing a possible hack vector
The whole point of Android is it’s fully customizable this sounds more like a thing apple will do
Because of Android, this is definitely bypassable.
@@dolfies right now it’s not.
Samsung wants to be the Apple of the Android world... At least with respect to scummyness they have achieved this goal
@@dolfies It is not and likely won't ever be. Restrictions done through the bootloader/firmware function at a _very_ low level, akin to the BIOS/EFI of a computer with additional hardware based signature checks because the ARM platform does not need backward compatibility unlike computers. This means the stock bootloader will keep enforcing this policy and you have no way to replace the bootloader itself (not even by replacing the firmware chips, due to hardware level signature checks burned into the CPU itself).
At this point, short of Samsung releasing a new signed bootloader that disables this functionality, there will be no realistic way around this.
@@jabbany2715 and scamminess too. They are more expensive than apple for their “flagship” phones.
As someone who collects vintage electronics, I'm worried that in the future, theres going to be a gap in the vintage electronics market, nobodies going to have anything after 2015 for future generations because it will all have broken, or will have been thrown out because they would just buy new ones. Imagine if things in the past werent able to be repaired, we'd have NO antique radios or televisions... Nothing to pass on to future generations...
we got computers lmao
@@sevenatenine_7 practicing your missing-the-point any% speedrun I see
I feel you, I really regret getting rid of my iPod 4th Gen man just because the screen broke, but I was really young at the time and didn’t know anything about repairing, and now it’s my favorite hobby I’ve picked up after watching Hugh, Jerryrig, and odd tinkering.
@@devinwilson8103 my mom bought her iPod in 2007 and used it for years. A couple years ago she was going to throw it out because nobody used it- safe to say she ended up giving it to me- it still worked! Just shows that once people move on they really dont care about some of their old things...
That has already happened with software and games since everything is always online drm and downloaded from someone's services or locked down consoles, no one can repair
Remember when the ZFold 1 came with everything and earbuds? Twas a good time.
yeah
Wasn't it more expensive?
@@nickmotsarsky4382 yeah it was $200.00 more
@@stanmanvg21 Sounds like you could buy some buds and still have $50 left then..
Remember when it got recalled. 🤡
There are those of us out there who, for a hobby, go through the programming and fix bullshit like this and then release custom firmware to make everything work again, and on our terms, for free. Those kinds of people are true heroes!
Doing gods work 👍
So your sayin if a company like Xiaomi releases firmware which kills cameras, other 3rd party developers can reprogram the firmware and fix the issue?
Yes checkout xda
I remember when my bank updated their app in 2014 to block anyone using a phone that had been rooted. I started only ising my browser to access online banking and still do to this day, yet everytime I go to their website oj my phone they complain that I should be using the app instead. This is just a more extreme version of that, forcing people to use specific firmware so they can have control over you.
I will help you out mate. I have thought about this long enough.
Buy an entry level iphone or samsung device. Let them have control over that.
As for your entertainment, downloads, productivity etc, get a high end xiaomi phone and install a custom ROM (Lineage or, calyx Os)...
@@manm5302 If you're crazy, you can also get a used OnePlus 6T and flash postmarketOS onto it and have what I think is the most powerful Linux "phone" ever for your productivity, etc. I put "phone" in quotes because there's still no drivers for making phone calls :(
my bank also did something similar but not that bad. If you're phone is rooted you can't use fingerprint to unlock, only enter password witch is fine by me.
At least the bank has a really good reason to do this, Samsun themselves, different story.
@@josepharmstrong8025 Not really. Just because your device is rooted, doesn't mean it's less secure. A lot of the time it's more secure after rooting.
Curious that they would do this…odd
Hello
Especially since a lot of people want to change their android skin. It’s just kind of odd since what’s the point? It’s not like they’re losing money by not doing this.
simple Samsung follows apple
@@alexteixeira27 that's actually false. Not even Apple is this evil (at least when it comes to software modifications). With iPhone, you could jailbreak it (when a jailbreak is available) and use all the functionalities available. Apple doesn't go out of their way to disable the camera or anything else just because you jailbroke your phone. A jailbroken iPhone works just as fine as a non-jailbroken one, with the only difference is the cydia mods installed.
@@mapl3mage right. they do something worse; brick your phone for trying to repair it. id rather be banned from bootloading my phone than banned from repairing it
I can't stand this anti-consumer garbage.
@@dueradiotelevisione maybe they are taking apple Path ?
@@dueradiotelevisione nah not really, If they were. They wouldn't be making Foldable phone or flip phone or Upgrading from 60hz screen and Anything that apple has
@@dueradiotelevisione you want water and a modicum of dust resistance on top of being a foldable and then complain about this reality? You people will never be happy even if you get exactly what you ask for. Get a life, loser.
@@PS-ub8st People hate apple not because of the hardware stuff, but the software itself, IOS is very difficult to share files and even using ftp, while android can do all of those very easily, and even can change rom. That's why android user never be an apple user because people using android focus on the software stuff.
Samsung's bootloader disable camera function is something preventing people to root their phone or try to do something new, which is not an android user wanted to see, what if in the future, samsung disabled most of the stuff to prevent people unlock bootloader?
If that's happening, then there will be no reason to use android at all
@@dueradiotelevisione Apple is making gimmicky folding phones?! I must see this! Also Apple is hardware locking their cameras after jail breaking their phones?! I must see this!
You Android fanatics will blame EVERYTHING on Apple lol. It’s quite sad yet humorous to see.
2021: disable camera
2022: disable screen
2023:disable buttons
The future is here
Full circle back to flip phones
@@justahumanwithamask4089 What a coincidence :/
Stop making jokes like that dang it 😡
2024; disable phone
@@asianflex Xiaomi has already done that
i love how ironic samsung phones are they keep making fun of apple being a "environment friendly" yet theyre just following apple's ridiculous phone ideas
Since the note 10 samsung has really been going that route more and more
They have become the bite out of the apple...
It's because companies require money to run. Companies, like Samsung, would laugh at Apple for doing dumb things, but then act like they never insulted Apple when they realized Apple was making more money. Apple removed the headphones jack and released AirPods, companies like Samsung makes fun of Apple, companies like Samsung realize the AirPods are making Apple a ton of money, companies like Samsung follows what Apple did.
TL;DR: greed
If Louis Rossmann calls you a hero, you have my sub.
It's the least I could do.
He did? :O woah..
Can you link me the vid?
@@TuhinBagh Awwwwww.... You as a person couldn't just go to his channel and check, right?
No, no... Let me...
@@TuhinBagh ua-cam.com/video/xFHfi1DDXeg/v-deo.html
@@FharishAhmedPortfolio I'm sorry my dude, if I bothered you.
I did searched couple of times before and did not found the video. Hence posting this comment.
@@TuhinBagh Be Quiet... I gave you the link...
If Samsung wants to push customers to another company, they're doing a great job.
I mean it's not like theres any competition in the US atleast. Now that LG, HTC, etc are gone its just Samsung and Motorola. As well as Google barely
@@dennisp8520 good point.
Here in Europe we have OPPO, xiaoni, Oneplus, Vivo, huawei but no Google, which is kinda OK.
@@dennisp8520 not much of a fan of Chinese products myself...
I would prefer HTC but ... Sony isn’t a bad option though here basically I can’t find any on contract.
Here where I live in Germany it’s a bunch of Chinese phones Samsung or iPhone that’s about it
@@Lucifer.6.6.6. three(oppo, vivo and oneplus) of them belongs to the same company.
@@dennisp8520 just buy what feature you want and and change the rom with no bloatware or just flash AOSP that's it you have phone with no connections to China with software
It's like removing a car's stereo and then the steering wheel gets disabled😂 You are amazing I love your videos, keep up the good work💖
Tesla?
Believe it or not, I remember Scotty Kilmer talking about something like that. If you removed the stereo from some GM cars, they wouldn't turn on.
@@IndellableHatesHandles OMGGG WHY😂😂😂
@@IndellableHatesHandles Some GM cars just wouldn’t start anyway.
@@panagiotispappas1001 The idea was that when parking in an unsafe area, one could simply remove the tiny and thin radio bar.
Anyone who broke into the car wouldn't be able to hotwire the car and drive away.
Imagine if a car manufacturer made a car that when you tune it, they brick the engine.
Tesla? Just gut the thing and throw in something more useful.
but they already... oh wait...
@@TheRealFobican Like a… **smacks lip** …LS swap?
TESLA
Or tractors like John Deere
I can't imagine spending $2000 for a disposable phone where you can't even do what you want with. I'm sticking to cheapo phones forever.
Some old models are still great unless you want to play high end mobile games
You don't wanna know what in these cheapo phones are
My daughter bought a budget version from the same manufacturer I'd bought a at the time high end device 70% of the functions for 30% of the price more or less.
Tbh you can get a decent phone for like 200 dollars or so, in my instance I bought a refurbished OnePlus 7 pro for less than 300 which is still better spec wise than the galaxy note 9 so you don't exactly need a dirt cheap phone to compete with the newer devices
@@Fallen_Family yeah or a new SE people act like they gotta have the flagship
Fascinating how you can already see where the screen is eventually going to break right out of the box even before the thing was folded for the first time
Another reason for why I'm sticking with older phones, all these "security reasons" are bullshit considering how expensive that phone is.
Folding phones as these are broken by design, and a great basis for a build project as you need to extensively modify it anyway.
@@TheRealFobican first version of galaxy fold was a tragedy
What will happen once you need to replace your old phone and all phones become locked down and restricted like the iphone and this new fold? I don't like where we are going.
@@romevang Exactly my thoughts on this development going on. Where is there something that goes back to how things were a decade ago but with the performance of today?
@@romevang I'm going back to dumb phones to be honest
Remember when Samsung phones came with chargers, headphone jacks, earbuds and MicroSD card slots?
Sure! It wasn't that long ago. I hate Samsung's pulling an Apple job. I used to respect them. Now?
Samsung has made some really good phones. The S8 & S9 was one of the best phones I have used.
@@HughJeffreys How about Note 9? Have been planning on getting a used one due to all the said restrictions on the newer ones......
@@HughJeffreys i still have the s8 i blught 3 years ago. It has a new battery and charging port, but the OLeD has some burn-in when on white display, where the FB bar on top and the buttons on the bottom have been printed on the display. Can this be solved in any othee way than replacing the panel? The phone is mint on the putside and it would be a shame to pull it apart again.
I believe Samsung Electronics secretly replaced their board of directors some time in 2018 or 2019 with people who prioritise short-term profits above all else (including customer satisfaction).
@@19rebelpriest
I agree that the Note9 is the last decent Galaxy Note!
(Same for the S9 and S9+ for the Galaxy S series)
Thank you for doing this, Hugh. It really pains me to see how we are slowly but surely losing our rights to be able to add custom firmware to our phones. I was really looking into doing that with the next phone I get, so I don't think I'll be getting this one!
Who would do that anyways to a new phone like this?
@@universe2170 Some people buy phones to use their own preferred software, but most of the people that does would probably be buying Xiaomi devices as after they're unlocked they retain the full functionality, as well as active developer communities for most of their phones.
Personally I like Samsungs software and dont see a reason to add my own
@@universe2170 are you really okay with them taking away basic features "because it's new?" what happens when it's 3yrs old? There are a lot of XDA people that naturally load custom ROMs on any device they plan on using.
i added a ustom firmware to my galaxy note 7 before I upgraded, the guys who made the firmware couldn't get the face recognition to work which I liked about the phone... but I still installed it for more application support, still have the same note 7
Small clarification at 7:07 about the fuse. The fuse is not software based. It actually burns out a trace in the knox IC/CPU physically. That's why unlocked Samsung phones with tripped knox are not covered under warranty. It is not possible to revert that via software. In that case the only thing left is to replace the motherboard.
another win to google then cause custom os and no limitations
TF? OK that's it, I am 100% boycotting Samsung from now on in all shapes and forms and telling everyone to avoid them. This is unacceptable.
bro they put it in the CPU ITSELF seriously???
"I don't want Facebook, Uber, or whatever else you're forcing on me and I want an Adblocker."
Samsung: "Do you hate ads and Facebook more than you like using your Camera?"
I don't think I ever have needed to use the camera since high school notes
@@Donutking17000 cameras are kinda important and I don't know how you don't use it. I regularly message take photos to email to say my dry wall guy to show him what's wrong or to scan QR codes for 2FA set-up. There is also obviously video calling people and just recording meetings
Honestly, I believe you can just use ADB to fully delete apps (or at least completely disable them), I've done it for all the Facebook apps. I don't know about adblockers though
@@steviesteveo1 why are you directing that comment towards me?
When the bootloader boots your camera software out of existence. Lmao xd
lol
You never know what crap can infest a custom ROM that the original ROM install didn't ship with.
Flash stock boot img and Samsung is doing really shity stuff now
@@xeienar Not saying that you shouldn't be allowed to install whatever os you want on a device that you want to fit your needs but from a safety perspective, something can contaminate your install just by being done from the device you're using to load it on the phone or the worst possible thing being that the image was doomed from the start by being infected by viruses finding itself into a lot of places floating around.
@@TheRealFobican if you don't know LinerageOS is trusted publisher but have to gave up Samsung flagship for quite sometime now. Samsung and Apple just want people to suck their toes instead of go to third party repair shop, and they know those who brought their flagship are more than willing to spend for overprice repair or buy new one but less likely to open bootloader. The same people bring their phone to third party repair shop when the shop tell them they cannot be fix because the company have locked some feature needed for the fix, they often blame the shop of not doing their job and waste of time or listen to company:"repair shops fucked your phone so your camera is now broken". I mean if they want to stop you from install shady OS why dont lock the bootloader indefinitely instead of purposely vandalize your phone. In contrast, most of those unlock their bootloader to install custom ROM are savvy enough to know what they are doing already.
Disabling cameras for unlocking bootloader, absolutely fucking absurd. Glad Sony backtracked disabling cameras, hope Samsung actually copies something useful for once.
sadly knowing sammy they wont
First they copy apple with headphone jack, deletes Facebook post about it, did the same with charger and notch (with A series and M series) and now this.
Now I only have hope in Sony.
@@axethepenguin LOL LOOK THAT PHONE YOU CANT USE YOUR HEADPHONES, LOOK YOU DONT GET THE CHARGER ANYMORE LOLOLOLOL,
Next year:
Guys we want to me more "eco friendly" so now you dont get a charger too when paying more than 1000 bucks!!!!, and no headphone jack either, time to embrace "modernity'
The hypocrisy is just *chef kiss*
Reminds me of when I had a Sony XZ Premium. If I used a third party camera app, I was limited to 8mp or less. Glad to be on a Google Pixel now where the only annoying thing I have to worry about is the purposely disabled USB video output.
@@axethepenguin Samsung never use bathtub notch, they're following Chinese brands which they use teardrop, also only A32 and the M-series has notch, A52 and A72 has punch hole
It just keeps getting worse and worse doesn't it..
Prg
Thank you, Samsung for deciding for me if I could live without your post-processing of Selfies.
While I'm currently on a Samsung, considering all these things they've been doing, I might consider moving to a 3310 in the future
@@brayannexon4613 freedom phone by buying a google pixel with graphene os
go for a xiaomi oppo vivo or oneplus phone or if you dont care about google play services get a huawei there are good options outside of samsung i never owned a samsung smartphone in my life though my first "dumb" phone was a samsung i had an iphone 4s at one point but now i am on a redmi note7 and i really dont get why people pay 1000+ $ for a phone to browse social media my 200 $ phone can do all that just fine
@@SimonBauer7 na dude Samsung phones are legit but with the way that they’re moving I rather get a Sony I would honestly love to get a Xiaomi way over a Sony butttt here in the USA they don’t work that well because they don’t sell them here you have to import and the service is spotty so a Sony works for me.
@@SimonBauer7 the issue is that they are Chinese phones which I believe privacy conscious people doesn’t trust Chinese phones though even if it has no google apps so it’s a problem but I got nothing against any smartphone brand.
@@starbutterflygaming8881 you could still install a custom rom on a xiaomi or oneplus without losing warranty or something
That really sucks. If I ruin the processing on my Fold-3 camera, that should be my problem. If Samsung had left the cameras enabled, I'm sure this video would have instead been about how terrible the camera works if we install a different ROM. Kinda similar to Right to Repair. We don't need companies watching out for our better interest. Leave us be.
They’re never after our best interest, this covers their asses, if they don’t let you install a 3rd party display without breaking the phone, you wont be able to sell the phone with a shitty display, and the person who would’ve gotten that phone won’t leave a bad review because they thought that was the original display.
Also if I'm installing custom OS surely I know what I'm doing and I know what I'm losing, so why would do that?
There is something underneath. It could be even possible that Samsung is spying on us or they really don't want to see headlines like "FBI broke into Samsung phone". I don't know.
"We don't need companies watching out for our better interest." They aren't. The ulterior motive is obvious
@@riley5114 on the topic of money the argument could be had that Samsung is better off letting people use their phones for longer like Apple does because they can generate money in other ways through various services. Like their Samsung pay that they made useless or something like that
They are protecting themselves yes, but they're protecting themselves from idiots who don't know what they're doing, who would brick their phone and then try to blame samsung.
This just reinforces my theory of Samsung Electronics having secretly replaced their board of directors some time in 2018 or 2019 with people who prioritise short-term profits above all else (including customer satisfaction)! Ugh! I hope they get bad PR for this, after which they'll probably get their PR team to lie to the public.
Interesting theory. Is there any way to check it?
Wtf does this even mean? Who on earth would unlock the bootloader on a FOLDING phone?? Do u rlly want all it's software features gone this badly? 😂
They have always been like this.
Just check out their S series sales... its shrinking and that speaks not the marketing department. They dig their own grave, and I hope they sit next to LG in the next few years, just because for their arrogance.
Do you know any other south Korean phone manufacturers besides LG and Samsung being around?
To me unlocking the bootloader is pretty much a given on any phone I own. Not even for the functionality, but rather to take ownership of my device.
i love how you are on a neverending conquest for user and 3rd party repairs, keep going!
Ha! Just unlocking the bootloader and the cam gets locked? Satisfying revenge is to watch Jerry Rig Everything destroying this phone.
😂
Locking it will enable the cameras again
If you lock the bootloader the camera will work again
@@LaidBackDeveloper That defeats the whole purpose. You unlock it so you can install other software, enable more functions, modify settings and install custom ROMS. Can't do any of that if the bootloader is locked.
@@brucewrigleysgumchewz4667 And if you install a custom ROM, that's it, the fuse is tripped and the phone is no longer ever "secure"
One of the things people choose Samsung over Apple was the ease of repairability, now that they took the path of Apple, nothing will keep people from switching to Apple products.
LOL, samsung phones have been always more expesive to repair and harder to open. iphones are the most easy to open and with very cheap spare parts available. samsung HAS NEVER been a good option if you want to repair them
@@OhQueBacan kyc e investiga lo que dices, t
@@arkvsi8142 A ver p ê ń d ë j o, literal me dedico a reaparición de teléfonos, Samsung nadie quiere reparar por lo caro de sus repuestos, lo difícil que es abrirlos y por lo frágiles que son, se rompen con solo mirar esas pantallas OLED. Por otro lado la manera de abrir los iPhones es súper sencilla y puedes trabajar todos los componentes internos sin problema luego de separar la pantalla.
@@OhQueBacan in ves ti ga.........tu a+no... Y después la vinculación de partes de iphone y lo que pasa si las cambias y lo que debes comprar para tratar de que sirva.
@@arkvsi8142 no estás involucrado en el area, solo estas hablando con las nalgas, cuando cambias una pieza funciona perfectamente, a partir del iPhone 11 te notifica que la pieza ha sido cambiada, es un dolor de cabeza explicárselo a algunos giles como tú, pero en nada afecta al uso. Puede hacer varias cosas para by pasear esta alerta, pero al final del día es solo una alerta, a unos les jode que aparezca, pero es lo qué hay, me encantaría que no fuera así, pero debo admitir que en nada afecta al uso del teléfono.
I'm so glad we have good consumer law in the UK. If the phone is kept in good condition and the screen cracks or splits, the retailer would have to get it repaired or refund purchase price (possibly pro rata) up to 6 years from purchase date.
Better still buy on finance or UK credit and the card / finance company is jointly liable for the repairs.
No wonder people in the UK hold on to their phones for so long! Because it still works 😂 when phones in the US get so damaged, it's less of a hassle to just get a new one.
Imma move to the UK then
you still have to prove its not your fault, after 2 years (which is eu law) generally samsung will ask you to prove you didnt fuck it up or refuse to do anything as they legally dont have to do anything until professionally proven its their device issue
other companies, like amazon, apple, and nintendo will have this practice after just 6 months, since we no longer in EU. uk law states that from 6 months to 6 years its your own responsibility to prove whos wrong ;)
Six years! Ugh, I'm salivating.
Surely they could just use 2 screens and design a hinge that leaves little to no bezel between the screens for the same convertable effect, since you can see the crease anyway. I can see flexible screens being useful at some point but using a soft plastic screen like this on a phone is just asking for trouble, the tech is just not there yet
Its a great idea but that would make the phone last more than 2 years of use, programmed obsolescence at its finest
There is absolutely no correlation to apple blocking it via software because of third party repair, and rooting an android phone, if anything this is closer to a console blocking
Glad to see your back at it again with the tech analysis thank you 💕🔥
This is pretty common information. Samsung devices have an e-fuse which is triggered when you unlock the bootloader. This disables all Samsung Knox features such as Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder and so on. If you're interested in unlocking/flashing custom ROMs then Samsung is not the recommended brand for you.
Google Apps also rely on e-fuse. Google Pay wont work if your knox is triggered.
Also magisk could hide the knox status and root at some point. Not sure if now.
As someone using a custom rom on a samsung s10e, after flashing the rom i use all of those things still work fine i actively use secure folder and never had a single issue
@@mamaluigi294 That is safe to do only if your device is out of warranty. Because there's no way of resetting that fuse once it's blown. Say bye bye to your warranty if your device is new. Even then you need to jump through a lot of hurdles such as rooting the device and faking Knox status through Magisk to use Samsung apps. Way too much headache for a casual user who would like to experience different ROMs without rooting.
@@meow2148 actually, about a year ago i send the phone in after resetting and relocking the bootloader because the sim card slot stopped working and it got replaced and i didnt have to pay anything.
All coverred under warranty
Saying " just buy a new brand". Is not a solution, I bought the phone, I should own it, they shouldn't disable features out of pure control, there's no "security" Reason whatsoever that would justify this action.
I swear tech company's better stop smoking WHO DOESN'T INCLUDE A DAMN CHARGING BRICK FOR A $2,000. TELL ME WHATS STOPPING THEM FROM DOING IT NOTHING
Profits. They saw Apple remove it and sales actually went up. Now the ZFlip 3 and ZFold 3 are flying off of shelves. They're exploiting people who don't realize that a charger is a fundamental part while passing off the environment argument.
@@THEJPR a charger costs them 5$ to make and they are selling it for 4x the price
I don't believe their fake numbers
I suppose in some way they are able to put a few more phones in theirs containers when shipping them because the box is smaller and that they probably save a bit of money by not including it so more profits,
Im probably a rare case of I dont need another charging brick because I already have a drawer full of charging bricks and cables
@@mousecursor0 I doubt it's $5 dollars. The mass printed circuit boards, tiny prongs, and the cheap plastic casing is probably sub $3. Especially with the quality of some cables (the 12 apple cables I have that are shredded) I don't think it's high.
I just discovered that I am unable to use the camera without it giving permission to access "Nearby Devices"?
Why does the camera need that?
Imagine not being allowed to thinker with a phone this expensive that YOU paid for.
I already saw Louis Rossmann's video about this, but to see it happen brings another level of frustration to it. I'm glad I abandoned Samsung a few years ago, they've become a completely rotten company. And no, unlike other commenters, I have no concessions for Samsung. This is completely indefensible.
I had a Samsung galaxy 3, 4, and a 6 edge. At that moment I switched because Samsung wasn't the same. And to see als these things happening since then, I am glad I switched to another Phone company
@@HazeRaidZBI what is "wasn't the same" for you?
I'm using J5 2015 back then at 2015-2017, idk much about samsung, but their os management is really terrible for me, just average user not into gaming, but my phone got so laggy😅
same .. in my family 3 people including me bought galaxy s6 edge .. everything was super smooth .. for maybe 2 years .. right after warranty ended all of them started to lag heavily and later on died and never turned back on. Now tell me this is coincidence omegalul .. all three phones dead after 2 years. Now im running iPhone X and its still faster than anything that camw out when X released.
7:10 fuse is hardware based, it will "damage" the device, so Samsung can reject all warranty repairs
It is standard for the software to reset once you unlock the bootloader. But this is definitely a first where the hardware pieces have been disabled when the bootloader is unlocked! It is strange that Samsung is now jumping on the Apple bandwagon..
Sony also did the with the XZ2, and it would stay non-functional even after locking the bootloader. They did however remove the limitation in android 9/10 update I believe, at that point I unlocked my device and all the cameras were fully functional.
I don't like flashing custom OSes to phones, I always enjoy stock ones.
Yea but some people like doing that and it sucks that they are being restricted like this
Fair most people enjoy the stock experience and there is nothing wrong with that, the issue is, punishing and crippling functionality for the people that don't is just a practice that is getting ridiculous in all markets.
Its like you wanting to install another operating system on your pc, heck lets say you want to use windows 7, there are people still on that, and the board just disables something because "security". OR lets say windows finally decides to block all apps that dont come from windows store, and if you do they disabled your speakers.
Or car not wanting to turn on because you replaced the radio or something else with a different brand.
Lets not look that far back, the right to repair initiative they did in Massachusetts, so you could keep taking you car to a third party mechanic and the car not being crippled from it, the only argument they had was, "NOOO DONT GO TO THIRD PARTY MECHANIC THEY WILL RAPE YOU LATER IN A PARKING LOT, KEEP YOUR DATA SAFE" and was an actual ad ran on tv and on youtube, they took it down, can still be found on youtube.
You paid for it, you own it, you deserve to do whatever you want with it, if you break it by tinkering with it, thats fine thats on you the company should not be held responsible for that, if you dont wanna tinker with it, its fine too, its your device.
You should not get punished if you decide to do something different or open it or repair it yourself or with a third party service, specially since all companies copy each other's homework, Apple got away with it, John deere tractor company did too, Ford, Tesla, even in military contracts and health services, there are products that cost 50k dollars, one little thing breaks, and you are forced to buy the whole thing, even if the thing that broke is 1k dollars.
Stock OS is usually garbage especially on Samsung devices.
@Hugh Jeffreys Is there a list of disabled when repaired/altered devices somewhere? If not, could you please start one?
I never want to buy one new or used.
Hugh buy yourself a lapel mic for the mid shots 😁
Might be too expensive but will you get another one or 2 Z Flip 3's and board swap them to see what gets disabled like the other phones such as the 12 in the past?
Cool idea
In all honesty no one is going to attempt repairing this phone when it costs more to do it yourself. Learnt that with my Z Flip.
@@HughJeffreys Oh Ok
If I started a hardware company, this would be my philosophy: A great product at a reasonable price. Make schematics, instructions, and parts available at a reasonable price. Offer support to assist people with their own repairs (again, at a reasonable price). Respect my customers and their rights. There would be no aftermarket parts for my products, because nobody is going to want to choose 3rd party over OEM when there's little to no price difference. Take care of my staff like family, and cap my own salary (and other execs) to $1M/yr. I could be wrong, but I feel like I would make enough to pay my employees extremely well, re-invest back into my company, and still have enough to live a more than comfortable life for myself.
They way you got it out of a box is literally an Equivalent of "Lol, You order a *Phone* not a Charger or equipment"
Great video Hugh .... from what i can tell from the repairing aspect they are disabling the cameras because they really don't want people using an unlocked bootloader. It is less secure, its a push to be more like Apple, Samsung assume having seen people buy Apple products for that reason they think people will make the switch IMO.
Yeah maybe it is less secure but they should’ve just give people a warning that their phone is going to be less secure rather than disabling the camera at the end of the day it is their device and they can do anything they want to it
@@user-vo3ps2oz7h you need to reread what I wrote you've missed it.
Custom kernels may be able to bypass this, just like they've been able to sort of spoof knox.
Garbo like this is why I think my S21 is going to be my last Samsung for a bit unless they course correct. They've regressed more and more over the years. Like it used to be that all Galaxy S devices sold in the US were pretty much universal and you could flash different firmwares on them to enable compatibility for other carriers, but as of the S21, they locked that option out almost entirely for the carrier models. Sadly, no one but a select few of us seem to actually care about it.
I think same that but for me that my s20 FE 4G is going to be the last Samsung phone I'll ever own if Samsung continues to turn into Apple 2.0 by doing the same greedy, money hungry and anti-consumer practices as Apple.
Im leaving Samsung after about 8 years and my 4th device. They burned me with the S20 FE Exynos and I hate that they went down the Apple route with their devices. There is more value for less money on the market. Once my contract runs out, Im gone.
Seems like Samsung has gone downhill after the galaxy note 10 was launched :(
or go on the used phones market. you gan get very good bargains there. i blught a iphone x second hand for only 250$ last year and i am happy with it. Fullbox and not one scratch on it. Battery was replaced on it and works perfectly, for what i need is more than enough for 2 years
@Dresdin I will
@@vic8695 I dont want iPhone
@@d4n93r try OnePlus. the 6 is still ok and has the headphone jack
I am always grateful for Hugh Jeffrey's videos.
I have saved my money because he spent his.
Can you unlock your phone?
Samsung: Well yes, but actually no.
I can sort of see it from both sides though. They're kind of taking a "walled garden" approach and are keeping people using the software they intended for their vision of the device. Flashing other software means that users aren't going to receive that experience. While yes it is the user's decision to do so, it kind of removes some liability from Samsung should this detract people from changing the software. There's always going to be some users who although warned that the process of gaining root access voids their warranty, that are going to still insist on Samsung being held liable.
As someone who up until the start of this year, worked for Samsung's servicing department...I can 100% vouch for this statement. The amount of times I was verbally abused for telling a customer that Samsing's warranty policy requires complete PBA board replacement to fix them fucking up their phone via custom os software installations was ridiculous 😆. It clearly states it in the warranty, and the Knox Lock backdoor trigger stays tripped even if you reinstall the original software trying to pull a fast one. The techs would take one look and hand it back to us lol South Koreans don't play that game
Anyone interested in privacy would actually love this!
A phone, just a phone...no camera
Not really though, you can get a phone without a camera for MUCH cheaper
Keep in mind that even if Samsung disables the camera from being used, that doesn’t necessarily mean the camera can’t be used in the background without your knowledge.
Mics still exists.
No, you're still paying for the cameras. Better off getting a budget phone and some black tape for the cameras.
Or you could just tape the camera
I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression unlocking the bootloader doesn't work on USA Samsung devices. They don't even give you the right.
Due to different processes US model run Snapdragon , and yes US/Snapdragon Samsung devices do not allow unlocking the bootloader
@@xEqualsRandom Tablets are snapdragon only and unlockable in Europe
@@xEqualsRandom get a hong kong variant phone. I have a note 10 plus n9750, has a snapdragon and unlockable bootloader
@@aidanm7225 it has nothing to do with spadragon. Chinese models also have Snapdragon, and their bootloader is unlocked.
Being able to unlock the bootloader is required by law in the USA, so I don't know how they get around that.
Great job on this one Hugh!
this is known for quite a while simple google search would have shown this. no credits needed.
@@bober1019 Apologies for not using google. I was more than happy to watch this detailed video.
So phones these days are not only more fragile, they cost a lot and comes without a charger.
I've seen Samsung & Asus do this on their new phones - perhaps to not disclose what camera sensors were used(to keep it secret from competitors) . Camera2API would be disabled in stock rom in intial few versions & many years later it might be enabled. Also root/custom rom would allow you to see the camera drivers/sensor names.
Samsung yet again imitating everything people hate about Apple. Smh.
Havent had a Samsung phone for years and years, their ecosystem just feels.. hollow, lazy, toy-like and just ..bad
No wonder people hate Samsung. They're just trying so hard to be Apple 2 instead of being their own thing, but they only manage to replicate their mistakes.
Thank fuck there are way more options than just Samsung in the flagship market. I'm currently rocking an OP 8pro, samsung and apple are two companies i just flat out refuse to support.
I've stuck with Motorola for a long time after I had a really bad experience with a Galaxy S3.... (showing my age a bit lol) I do have a couple of Samsung products, but I will never buy another phone from them again.
That disabling things because you turned something on should be banned,
"Okay, you want to unlock bootloader?
You have it, but we will take away your cams, and we not even gonna tell you that!"
i will not be surprised if people will be so mad at this that they will move back to good ol' button phones
They do tell you though???
1. No one is forcing you to buy their products.
2. If they tell you there is nothing wrong with it.
3. If people care nough they will lose profits and its gonna backfire.
4. They make the product so they decide what they want to do with it and you are willingly buying it.
He read it for you that it warned him before he unlocked the bootloader. I don't agree with them doing it. But they do warn you.
@@CarryMeh161 You actually believe those fairy tales in 2021? You understand nothing about economics.
@@abitofabitofabit4404 Then please explain what I said wrong.
I remember Samsung did want to try something like this with the Galaxy S7, at least from some rumours in China. But on my Exynos model I saw no such problems, not even a warning message on boot, but of course Samsung security software are all gone, which is a worthy tradeoff for getting OneUI
man i miss my exy s7 that phone was so great
Pretty sure they did, i once installed custom recovery and it bricked my Exynos S7… it worked perfectly on my S5 though
I managed to unlock my Snapdragon S7, which was not supposed to work, and I was able to root and flash custom firmware on it. I eventually reinstalled Android Oreo back on it but it amazed me that my US variant actually got jail-broken. Apparently the US S7 had a permanently locked bootloader but I unlocked it!
@@evil1st Well that would then be the situation with Snapdragon variants outside of US, like Chinese variants, which they have unlocked bootloader and root access, but nearly zero ROM development and definitely no OneUI ROM unfortunately...
8:09, well it does Hugh, because the fingerprint scanner doesn't take photos of your face so your finger print doesn't pose a threat to your personal identification, whereas payment and password apps along with cameras can be used to steal data
Someone could install malware that has root access to send fingerprints to an attacker.
It's a good idea to appear in front of the camera by yourself, but do something with the sound. The sound is ok when it is voice over and there is a strong echo when you speak in the frame
Xiaomi is few companies that still provide us official unlocking bootloader without sacrifice anything
Yes bro we can safely unlock bootloader and can install custom roms without any restrictions
yes, the one and only.
HTC offers an official bootloader unlocker, while Google also lets you unlock the phone by following a few simple steps. It's also possible to unlock the bootloader on a Huawei, but it apparently requires paying the company for an unlock code.
@@mapl3mage yeah.. only few and htc is no longer in the market unfortunately
yep you can install custom rom whatever they want either xiaomi eu based or several others
Seems like Samsung shouldve just disabled the ability to lock the bootloader in the first place. A strange decision, but I haven't used custom ROMs for over half a decade now. Looking forward to getting my Z Fold 3 on Monday!
Indeed, seems kinda pointless to offer the option to unlock the device if they're just gonna sabotage those that do it
Remember when you bought something and it was yours to do with what you want? I member
I mean, this is the same company who once told me that they will "factory reset" my device to repair a broken speaker. The device itself was so pitiful to me it decided to repair itself within a few hours after I declined them from factory resetting it.
lol
As a programmer, I hate this new culture of arbitrary software locks, disgusting
Hugh looks cute when he’s mad in the thumbnail haha 😊
This is utter BS on samsungs part. I am proudly still running an S5, but crap like this means I won't ever buy another Samsung device. I also will not recommend samsungs to anyone I know, maybe my enemies though.
I switched away from only having Samsung smartphones to OnePlus. Best choice ever. Now I have a phone that still works without big issues after almost 2 years
u wont swith bcz u dont have money lol
@@niggamaster9139 I worked 45-60hr weeks all summer at a landscape supply place making a very reasonable wage, my net worth is 10x that of everyone I know because I am a chronic saver. As a teen I don't have expenses and thus I could "afford" to buy a couple of these Fold 3s, but then I wouldn't have $3,000,000 in the bank when I retire. I would also be directly supporting a company that is actively taking away my freedom to do what I want to my devices. So I will stay on my S5 until it breaks, then I will buy another one, as a protest to the state of the smartphone industry.
@@Carterthielftw_ u wont be heaving 3mill in the bank ,at that time America will be destroyed by democrats ,so go ahead stop being greedy and buy new phone
@@niggamaster9139 I cant actually say that I disagree with you tho...
Damn that thumbnail… Well done!
Keep up the good work!
I always assumed it was to protect their intellectual property, when you mentioned the security apps refusing to work after the triggered it screamed they're trying to protect something. If I had to guess it's there under screen fingerprint software. Other companies are going to figure it out but they want to be the only one with it for a while.
I believe the z fold 3 use side fingerprint scanner. Also under screen fingerprint has been done for age now, no need to steal them.
I am guessing they are protecting their under-screen camera technology. But its pretty lame ngl
i dont really know why they're doing this, probably because all their camera libraries in /vendor are all private. its hard to get a working camera on newer samsung flagships on a custom rom, but i never expected them to totally disable the hardware even without tampering yet. no magisk, no custom kernel, all stock. just an unlocked bootloader. dont worry though, im sure xda will find a workaround.
Just a matter of time before someone hacks the Samsung Fold firmware.
You mean Android or something higher in the boot process?
@@LiuWoods hopefully rewrite the entire bootloader
Hey Hugh , U just got promoted by Louis Rossmann. Keep it up , "right to repair"
To their credit, i can see why the disable payment methods, as it could be a potential threat.
True, but it should really be up to the user
Why don't banks disable payments on Windows? Programs on Windows are not isolated from each other. Why you can install other operating system on pc and you can't on phones, or else you get degraded experience?
@@circuit10 People wanted more security, so they implemented Knox encryption between drivers and sensors. When u wiped the device u wiped the keys too so the drivers can no longer communicate with your cameras and nfcs.
@@Junispro31 But how is it more secure to not be able to take pictures because I wanted to install another OS?
@@circuit10 I'm not saying it's more secure to disable cam. I'm saying for a usual folk not planning to root a phone, camera being encrypted is a good thing. The not being able to use camera due to wiping of the phone when bootloader unlocked is a bad side of such a practice.
This is probably because they would like to collect telemetry and data on how you use their new phone and form factor, a custom rom would hinder this, so they try to deter you as much as possible
do not collect my data if I'm a paying customer. period. Give me the phone for free if you want me to be the product.
No longer happens when u update to one ui 4.0 they still work after unlocking it
good news
IMO they just do it to discourage you from unlocking the bootloader. Its the same with knox, google pay and all the other apps getting disabled too. They do it under the guise of security, but I don't believe they give a crap about you or your security. They just don't want you to replace their OS with your own version.
Fantastic video!
Another great reason to skip the Fold 3...
thank goodness that xiaomi phones have such an active development community 🤩
Yeah and Xiaomi allows to unlock the bootloader, install any ROM you want, but if you want to sell it or just restore it to original condition, you can close it back and flash the original ROM on the phone like nothing happened. This is a very strong reason for me to my next phone to be Xiaomi as well.
watching this on my nearly one year old Z Fold 2 🥰🤩
As a person that has a rooted Samsung device all I can say is that the process of rooting (at least for my device) is complete pain and it took me around three days of trial and error to fully root it and disable stuff like storage encryption and etc. Also a good thing is that I managed to enable back Secure Folder and Samsung Health.
if it took you that long to root a phone, you had no idea what youre doing. Looking for the right stuff in the right places ("know how") will get it done in less than 10 minutes.
@@Sharpless2 It's not that I didn't know what I was doing, it was the fact that there was almost no information. After a lot of trial and error I learned that for my phone I had to switch to an older software version in order to prevent some bricks that were happening when installing a recovery. Then I had to fight with the encryption because it was really hard and annoying to disable it and finally because that trips the knox security I had to find a workaround to be able to use some samsung apps.
I in you case your device has a bigger community and therefore information on rooting is easier to find.
I bought a Pixel 4XL second-hand from a refurbishing company where they obviously use custom bootloaders, but unfortunately didn't relock it before sending it to me. What happens with Google is that you can no longer use the NFC module to make payments, the cameras all still work though. Disabling the NFC makes sense though, as you wouldn't want people to forge credit cards with their phones.
"You'll own nothing and be unhappy" ! 😡 !
I corrected the end of this awful sentence.. 🧐 Even with my correction, it's still an awful sentence..
You have companies like samsung who tries to own the device after you bought it, and then, there are companies like xiaomi, if you unlock the bootloader on your xiaomi device, they are the only one still giving you a warranty, even if you screw up the phone by soft bricking it, xiaomi will re-install the miui os for you, for free!! How cool is that? I don't want a samsung anymore, i had a samsung before the xiaomi, the samsung always stayed at home, like a land line sorta. Something went wrong with the touchscreen, it wouldn't react sometimes anymore, i brought it into the shop i bought it from, i claimed a warranty swap, but they said 'sorry mate, the device is water damaged!', this device wasn't even in my pocket, it sat on my desk, where i don't bring liquids! Samsung is a joke, they try to screw you over! It is a right to root/jailbreak your phone! Insane! Its just BS!
Some years ago my mum and I switched to Xiaomi, and I can only describe our experience as simply the worst thing in the world. Both devices broke after only a year of use, one due to battery issues and the other one because of a damaged charge connector. Opened them up just to find they don't even use glue on these pieces of garbage and hold them together with plastic clips. So yeah, we moved to Samsung's A series after that and never looked back.
There's a reason Xiaomi costs so little... Don't think you're saving money, coz you're not 💀
Xiaomi launcher has baked in ads its horrible experience
@@khawajashaharyar9294 exception in china version it has better software than global version if you don't want that you can install a custom rom software
@@aimanfitri0iv but nowadays financial services don't accept rooted phones :( man I miss those days when your phone was actually yours not on paper.
@@khawajashaharyar9294 i do remember the old days pre-covid era
I'm not saying I justify this but for a little clarity, since the software after unlocking cannot be controlled, they can no longer guarantee safety or security, and disable the cameras to prevent people from hacking and gaining personal information and suing them.
It's stupid, a bandaid, and ineffective, but I'm pretty sure that's their logic.
It is a foldable phone, that isn't really optimized for other OS, so realistically no one would do this, but it is weird that the cameras are disabled.
xiaomi , huawei, vivo, realme laughing and smiling at the corner..waiting for samsung customer to switch phone
i dont really know in which way they lock it, maybe they dont initialize them on boot. i think a custom boootloader would solve that, not sure though
edit: samsung addressed this issue since firmware version ZUKA, cameras will still work after unlocking the bootloader
5:54 I understand payment and password apps not working, as an unlocked bootloader prevents android from detecting software integrity, so that will cause concern for security issues. The cameras perhaps not necessary, but will prevent them from being hijacked by 3rd party malicious software that can now be present. These are probably the likely causes
This is because security, not want to stop 3rd party repair. Plus, samsung needs to enable the led disabling for the selfie camera.
It's a dumb move by Samsung, but I still love the darn thing. It's been my favorite phone to date, and since I have zero interest in unlocking the bootloader, it's all good for my use case. I stopped installing custom ROMs back in the galaxy S3 days, didn't know it was still a thing.
@cpong That's too bad. It was so much fun back in the day with the early S and Note series.
Wait, you can't just flash it with different system?
Imagine spending $2,500 closer to $3k after taxes and not even getting a charger block. 😂