The Amazing Spider-man 2 rehashes the same problem it has with Spider-man 3. Underdeveloped villains. Script that goes nowhere. Cliched story lines that's been overdone. The only thing that's redeeming in this movie would be the new Spidey suit, Electro's special effects, characters, acting and spoiler alert Gwen's death.
and not even gwen's death since in the comics she was one of those characters whose sole purpose was to be built up to die to bring turmoil and drama to the main characters--cause yeah that's a comic book trait so basically it's the movie just copying the comics so no real shout out needed for that.
Mckenzie .Latham The movie may have been copying the comics, but in reality, isn't it suppose to take something from its original source material? Gwen's death might've been tragedy bait so that the main character has to face real consequences for every action that he takes, but the Raimi trilogy *NEVER* really did anything of the same scale that ASM2 did. The only real death Peter had to deal with (in the Raimi trilogy) that affected him emotionally was uncle Ben. Mary Jane didn't die, yes Harry died, but it wasn't a "punch to the gut" feeling like with his uncle and Norman's death was really just so that he could be there to support Harry in his time of need.
hunterkiller1440 I don't know... I kinda liked the build up of Max Dillion's transformation and the first real scene of Electro and Spider-Man, that is until the team up/alliance with Harry/G. Goblin, which didn't make sense, but as Rob and Doug both said, it was too much being thrown at you in one movie.
Some people say that Gwen Stacy was only in this movie to set up her death and the introduction of Spider-Man's "real girlfriend", Mary Jane Watson. The interesting thing is, if Gwen Stacy did NOT die in this movie, people would complain that the movie wasn't trying hard enough to stay "close to the comics", where she dies after her neck gets snapped (in fact, the movie pulls it off pretty well. Now if she was on the bridge from Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movie with the Green Goblin throwing her off, THAT would be " accurate to the comics"). Also, if anyone actually LISTENS to what Electro and Spider-Man are saying in their first scene together, Electro did NOT turn on Spider-Man because he "forgot who he was". That is only what the trailers make it seem like. Electro turns on Spider-Man because he thought Spider-Man set him up to get blasted away by a sniper (which almost worked).
Edward Nigma Actually the complaint was more how they focused on the relationship throughout the film only to kill her off at the very end, if they hadn't focused on the relationship so much less people would have complained, also there's always going to be someone complaining about the complainers as well, doesn't matter what someone complains about, someone like you will defend it, that's not a bad thing but it kind of makes your argument fall flat.
jessebrown1996 That may be true, but my argument still has merit. See, it's not just "defending the movie to defend it", it's "actually paying attention to the movie, noticing someone who *didn't* pay attention to the movie (and who is vehemently saying the movie is bad), and stating why I disagree with them".
Edward Nigma Well your main defense is "people will complain no matter what" and that argument holds little to no merit because the simple fact that people will complain no matter what doesn't make complaints any less valid, the rest of your argument isn't really about why the movie is good, you're just explaining why some people are wrong about Electro.
Many say Maguire's Spider-Man doesn't crack enough jokes. Ironically though, if you play the offical video games for the films (can't speak for 3....but 1 and 2, for sure), he cracks a lot of jokes in-game (and it's Maguire doing the voice acting). It works really well. And it's not like Maguire doesn't crack jokes at all in the movies, he's just more focused on getting the job done. Garfield seems to be the opposite.
Rhett Gedies I actually preferred the video games to the movies. I liked Maguire in both, but I just liked how they did everything in the games a bit more. Plus come on, open world NYC is never bad.
***** I respect your opinion. But I love Maguire in all 3. After the reboot, I lost faith in Spidey films. They can do whatever they want with the character now, because I really don't care how they write or play him anymore.
+Rhett Gedies The fact that many viewers were left with the sense that McGuires Spider man had no sense of humor means MgGuire couldn't project the main aspect of Spidey's character. It left me with the imnpression that McGuire's Spidey and Parker were mute.
+SpikeRatchet Many good reasons why and im not saying why since its your favorite and you like it and I don't want to offend anyone but just remember its an opinion. Just saying
I disagree when it comes to Rob saying that Garfield wasn't geeky enough. I think people confuse nerds with being shy and insecure. Garfield is super awkward and nerdy in the films but he's not acting like he's a shy, whiny, little bully victim. He takes his awkwardness and turns it into charm/confidence.
silja lin Not really. Hes only awkward towards the girl he likes. Otherwise, Rob is pretty much on the dot. Its not really about him acting like a nerd, its about him as nerdy, early Peter Parker, and dear lord, he is far from it.
There is, within Amazing Spider-Man 2, the perfect Spider-Man film. The romance works, and Spider-Man himself is basically perfect, even if they did maybe fast forward his character development a bit and land at the more college-era 'comfortable with himself' Parker. If the movie had JUST been Electro, it could have been good. If the movie had JUST been Green Goblin, it could have been good, but they tried to squeeze Harry's ENTIRE character arc into basically... what, 40 minutes of screen time? What the Raimi films spent 3 movies on, and did well, this movie tries to squeeze into about the same runtime as an Episode of Arrow, and it just doesn't work. Electro quickly gets sidelined in his own movie. And... honestly, I think it should have ended about 15 minutes earlier and saved the real 'set up the Sinister Six' shit for a mid-credit teaser. Let the movie end on the funeral. It's a downer, but the movie would have been stronger for it. Set up the Sinister Six as a mid-credit thing, not an end credit, a mid-credit, let the audience know that Peter's going to have to put the webs back on in the next one. It frustrates me that a movie that got Spider-Man himself SO RIGHT ends up a pretty bad movie entirely because they were bending over backwards to set up a Sinister Six movie that now will NEVER happen. It's like finding out that a beloved television series last season (A season that got it canceled) ended up being a peace of shit because of some weird marketing deal for a product that never actually made it to market. Like if half a season of Transformers was promoting the damn Gobots!
I can definitely agree that Electro should have been the sole antagonist of TASM2. Electro’s character was never really that well-defined in the comics, so there’s a lot of room to create a very open-ended interpretation of the character, which to TASM2’s credit, was taken advantage of, at least somewhat. However, Harry Osborn’s transformation into the Green Goblin and Gwen Stacy’s death should have been saved for TASM3. As many people have mentioned, it’s bizarre that in TASM1, Peter acts like he knows nothing about OsCorp before he becomes Spider-Man, yet they reveal in this film that he and Harry were childhood friends. It should have been that he and Harry meet each other in TASM2, and they develop a new friendship that goes sour throughout the course of the film, and then maybe the better, hypothetical version of TASM2 ends with some sort of teaser that foreshadows Harry’s inevitable transformation. (Yes, this is one case where the TASM films SHOULD have directly copied the Raimi trilogy, but didn’t due to Sony’s stupid studio interference.)
I kinda feel like watching this movie gives you a sense of how Spiderman probably feels half the time as Spiderman. There's too much shit going on in his life. Haha
Jamail -van Westering well Avengers actually i would say was both sequel fuel (with thanos at the end credits) and fan boy service, same with Guardians of the Galaxy which was solely fan boy service
Sony technically still has the rights. It's a joint partnership with Marvel. But you're right. Sony is desperate for a franchise that they didn't take into consideration that ASM2 still must be successful.
***** At the end of the Amazing Spiderman 2, which clearly showed Kraven's spear, with his symbol engraved on it's head. Kraven was also teased through the lion skull with gilded teeth Harry Osborne had received from him...
Demonflesh spawn Ah, right. That was probably more of a tease to Sinister Six, though. But since Sony really has no idea what to do with these movies, we're getting our third iteration of Spider-Man already. So that might not happen.
***** Agreed, but Kraven was in there, always has been in there, and was teased along with all the other characters. For denying us the opportunity to see perhaps the greatest criminal organisation in comic-book movie history, and especially for failing to show a character as godly as Kraven, I say 'from Hell's heart I stab I thee...'
+Zlad! Vevo My scores for the X-Men films: X-Men - 7/10 X2: X-Men United - 8/10 X-Men: The Last Stand - 4/10 X-Men Origins: Wolverine - 4/10 X-Men: First Class - 8/10 The Wolverine - 7/10 X-Men: Days of Future Past - 10/10 Deadpool - 6/10 X-Men: Apocalypse - 7/10
I doubt that, considering The "Amazing" Spider-Man 2 was released in 2014, a month before Days of Future Past and almost 3 years after First Class, but whatever.
I hate when I'm called a hipster just b/c I like the Amazing series better than the Raimi series (I like that series too). I unbiasedly feel that the Amazing series is a little better than the Raimi series.
The thing with the two series is that Rami trilogy has a simpler story but bland characters while the TASM duology (is that right?) that the story is more scrambled but its characters are far more interesting. I think that's why I like TASM2 as much as I do compared to SM3. SM3 was crammed with stuff and it's characters were boring as hell so I was bored throughout but the characters in TASM2 are so interesting and great that I enjoyed just watching them all interact. It's why TASM1 is my favourite of all the films. It had a simple story like the first two Rami films with a bit of foreshadowing and interesting characters.
Finally someone agrees, while I do like Garfields peter parker better its only because he's not a loser at all. He'd be one of the cool kids everyone would want to be friends with. Hollywood screws that geek imagery up a lot in movies though where sure they stutter alot but for the most part say funny witty things and you end up thinking "well ya he's gonna get the girl at the end no surprise"
okay the itsy bitsy spider thing was actually a running gag in the comics. Several villians woudl sing or quote it when getting an upper hand on spiderman the biggest one being the green goblin...Just like he did in the first movie those not when he was beating spiderman but rather laying the trap and what not. As for the "sound bars" on the Pillars if you look at them before he starts destroying the power station they are fully lit up being charged with power. Then go off. And if you watch through out the enitre movie lights flickering on and off and all sorts of electrical disturbances happen aroudn electro. He has a massive electronic field aroudn him which its jsut charging them as he releases more energy but he does not keep a constantly flow so they start filling then drain again. I mean his electrical field is even reaching those damn planes and fucknig with the atmosphere. Its jsut showing how his power is effecting the environment aroudn him he is not intentionally focusing on making them like up like sound bars its just a visual effect to show what all he is actually effecting. So if you don't like the visual effect that fine but trying to argue its stupid cause you think the villain is intentionally causing that is just as silly as that idea in itself. And again the its bitsy spider thing..i mean its a comic book movie based on a comic book that had a lot of banter and quips mainly from spiderman and his villains including electro loved to mock him while they were beating him which if you watch while hes doing that he's putting some hard hits on the spider.
I really think TASM series suffered from coming so soon after the much adored Raimi series. Raimi's series were quite enjoyable but they had many flaws and inconsistencies (the first 2 were quite formulaic). I think it would be better if we erased both from memory, yet kept the best elements of both movies and rolled it into a new series.
+mounir maged Doug did not say he loved this movie. You don't need to get this angry. I feel like they overlooked some of the things that did develop for Peter Parker's character in the original trilogy just because they didn't like how the style worked for that one. They aren't perfect reviewers. JUST GET OVER YOURSELF He acknowledged the many problems with this movie but had a different outlook on them!
When I first saw this movie, I was overwhelmed. I thought there was way too much thrown at you. It still is flawed, but when I saw it a second time, I really liked it. I LOVE the first scene big scene with Electro. I think that both film series have pros and cons but I think the Amazing Spiderman movies are a little better. So while I acknowledge that it has flaws, I still recommend it. I don't consider AS2 a "bad movie". I understand people's problems with, but I think the pros slightly out-weigh the cons. I think that it's underrated.
hunterkiller1440 I know that the story was packed with A LOT of content. But I think that it's a pretty decent story considering all the stuff that was packed in. It's my 3rd favorite Spiderman movie (a close call for 3rd place between this one and Raimi's original). My order: TASM SM2 TASM2
As much as I like Marvel and I know they can do it better, I really don't like their decision to start from scratch AGAIN. They didn't even finish a complete arc with this series! They were right on the verge of something great, but then Marvel had to throw it away.
I liked Tobey and Andrew more as Spider-Man than Tom, tbh. Tom is too young to portray Spider-Man (I know spidey is 16, but i dont think he can act it well...he seems like he's 12).
The first time I saw this, I just took it for what it was and enjoyed it, after multiple viewings...I started to realize what a fucking mess it was and how much wasted potential it had, basically the opposite of most movies people consider "BAD"
funny thing is...when Stan Lee created spider man..his publisher told him the character was a dumb idea and nobody would like the character..cause nobody likes spider.
SAM HAYES I thought I typed that one too but guess I didn't. Still god though, but I could see why you potentially don't like The Wolverine, it's not the best film but it isn't atrocious.
Don't worry, even though he doesn't mention it here (he mentioned it in his reviews for them) that he thinks First Class was a solid film, and that DOFP is both genuinely great and the best one.
I really didn't like this movie. It was convoluted as hell, the character arcs and development were attempted but it was it was all so rushed, none of the actors besides Jamie Foxx gave a fuck, so much Sony product placement that it was actually distracting, and it was just a total mess. Even upon a second viewing I didn't like it.
What's funny is that Oxford University isn't a single school, it's a series of unrelated schools that are collectively referred to as Oxford University.
And now because Sony screwed up and didn't learn their past mistakes from Spider Man 3, we won't get a proper resolution for these series of films. You dun goofed Marvel.
Well, think of it like this, the BIG problem with this movie is the villain overflow. So you sometimes forget rhino or electro are in the movie because, after their defeat, either Harry's subplot or peter finding his parents steal the spotlight from them. Sometimes, that's normal, but the pacing isn't that great in this film, so they are often treated like minor roles, when in reality, electro is supposed to be important because, he is one of the big 2 antagonists. And developing and giving antagonists personality and clear motivations are important, so they could have done that a bit better. But l, it's good that harry was getting a lot of screen time because, he most likely would have been a major part of the planned sequels.
By the way, Electro's design in the movie is from the "Ultimate Marvel" comic books. The movie makers did not "rip off" Dr. Manhattan, since this version of Electro was already an existing design.
***** I'm talking about the movies, not the comics. If you listen to the video, they are clearly talking about the movies. If the "Amazing Spider-Man 2" movie was made *after* the "Watchmen" movie, people would say that if was ripped off.
I honestly think people are being overly critical of this film purely because it wasn't a part of the MCU. You complained that it spent most of the movie setting up future films? WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK IT'LL BE ANY DIFFERENT IN THE MCU?!?!
23:17 I’ve come from the future to say Marvel doesn’t do much better. In fact they do worse. However that truly amazing Spider-Man film ur waiting will come out and is made by Sony.
it really bothers me that lots of people don't like the story in this because the story in the amazing Spider-Man 2 was EXACTLY like it was going for in the original comic series
I actually enjoyed this film quite a bit. I see a lot of the problems and understand where people are coming from but the characters were really good {especially the leads}, the effects were great, the action was really cool, the romance was really well done and some clever and smart elements. At times, it could get too complicated and I was disappointed with how they handled the Rhino but it isn't that awful as a lot of people deem it to be {looking at you RedLetterMedia}. I'm actually kind of sad that they scrapped 3.
I knew nothing about Spider-Man going into The Amazing Spider-Man movies (only watched them a few months ago) and I wasn't confused with the movie, in fact, I enjoyed the heck out of it! I totally bought him being a little off and awkward and I found him relatable. I actually just found out earlier that according to the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator Spider-Man, or Peter Parker more-so, and I are apparently the same personality type, INFP's (granted that is based on fans analyzing his personality and giving him a "personality type", so take that for whatever it is worth. I, on the other hand, have always been and INFP every time I have taken the test). Anyway, I thought it was interesting and it made sense why I related to him and bought into Garfield's Peter Parker. I have seen people complain about Electro (or whatever his name was), that his progression from awkward dude to super villain was random and didn't make any sense but I think it made perfect sense. It was painfully obvious that he was already not... totally... uh... mentally healthy... come on, he was convinced he was best friends with Spider-Man after talking to him once, he had an unhealthy obsession and didn't have the ability to separate fantasy from reality and once his "perfect, best-friend-fantasy" bubble was broken he freaked the heck out and became a super villain. I used to work with elementary kids who had behavioral disorders and emotionally disturbed kids and he reminded me of them quite a bit, I bought his character and his fall to villainy. (Granted, none of them are super villains now... I hope.)
The Raimi films are MUCH better than these 2 pieces of garbage. Even the thrid one is better than both of the Webb films, even though it is a bad movie.
Okay even though I like Garfield way more than Maguire, I can admit that the better percent of the Raimi films are good opposed to the Webb films and that SM2 is definitely better than the best TASM movie, but TASM 1 is not a piece of garbage and SM3 is not better than it. And even though Maguire is the better Peter, Garfield is the by far better Spider-man and his character grows throughout the movies and Maguire arguably does not at all. So if you don't like Garfield or his films that's fine but don't say that the whole thing is terrible.
+PE_STROUD Look, I enjoyed both the Garfield spider man films, but lets face it. His character development, is angsty teen who puts on a costume and gets cocky, to angsty teen who puts on a costume and gets cocky, with a dead girlfriend.
Dicky Collins Before I say anything, I'd like to apologize for the awful wording in my comment, I don't know what happened there. But to reply to you, I see where you're coming from and you have a point, however, we see him give Connors the equation which turns him into the Lizard and gets Captain Stacy killed, and he promises that he'll stay away from Gwen, which he does but then goes back to her and it gets her killed, and then he realizes the mistake he made twice. Granted the character ark is just the same thing twice but at least it's something. In the Raimi films Parker just went from winy bratt to winy bratt.
PE_STROUD In the Raimi films, Peter began as a nerdy kid who felt bad for himself and was petty, and after he saw his uncle die, he learned he needed to gain some responsibility. In Spider Man 2, he had to learn what that responsibility meant losing. Everything was going against him, his grades failing, his friendship failing, his relationship with MJ failing, and eventually he gave up. Eventually, he realized that he still needed to help, whether that meant losing his normal life or not. He became spider man again, and took on that burden. Not once did he whine or complain or act like a brat. Only in the beginning of spider man was he a brat. Well, in Spider Man 3 as well, but that was because of the black suit.
10:21 PAHAHA whaatt? I didn't think that scene was anything special at all.. Come on guys. Now, Aunt Mays speech in Spider-Man 2 about heroes was an Academy Award worthy moment. It's got the feels yo
I wish Marvel wasn't rebooting Spider-Man again with another high school story. I get that they want someone who could foreseeably play Spider-Man for the next 10 years but I'm just sick of 16 year old Peter Parker. I want to see the Peter Parker I knew from the comics, the one Rob was talking a little about: he's confident, he's sarcastic, he's got the shitty Parker luck but he always tries his hardest. I'm just tired of these same nerdy, social awkward high school stories. Enough, we've had 5 of them now.
Doug you complain about the tone in Spiderman 2 and yet that problem is ever present in one of favourite movies the Dark Knight, when a really intense scene happens and then Christen Bale in rubber suit comes in saying "YOU DON'T WAN'T HURT THE BOY HARVEY" in his stupid gravelly voice, that's what I call a messed up tone...
Complaining about how electro is like palpatine really isn't fair... considering the fact that electro's powers consist of him LITERALLY shooting lightning out of his body...
"he should make these rigs go up and down like sound bars." Personally I don't see what's wrong with that. He's electricity isn't he? Plus the fight scene with him and Spidey was amazing, and the music was INCREDIBLE. I think that the reason that there was so much stuff happening was because the writers wanted the audience to feel just how much the odds were stacked against Spiderman. And Gwen's death was so emotional for me, and having Rest Of My Life play during this? I actually cried. While I did recognise it as being from the comics, and knew what was going to happen, that didn't mean that it still wasn't sad. And the action was spot on, the jokes always hit home with me. I really wish they made a third movie.
I get the feeling with these new Spiderman movies, that Sony execs literally said "Don't do the thing the last movies did", then left the room. Leaving everyone too scared to put any of the good points from the old movies.
I would have liked the movie, if they broke it up into about 2-3 movies. Also, while I didn't like the sam raimi films, I absolutely loved Sandman introduction, in the movie. edit: almost forgot to say. Hell yeah! 2 more for the Gwen Stacey over Marry "The Damsel" Jane.
I think Marc Webb was used as a piece by Sony to do what they wanted with the reboot. He only had _(500) Days of Summer_ under his belt before this......he was malleable and let Sony control the films. Sony did that with _Spider-Man 3_ as well.....HOWEVER, I love 3. It's not as good as 1 and 2. But Raimi rode out very well (and then had the guts to say, I'm done being pushed around). Everytime I see it, I'm shocked why it is so poorly received these days (Newsflash: the first year or so of its release, people genuinely liked it. The animosity is a more recent thing)
+James Brincefield Yeah lol I agree to I hated it so much I wanted the movie to just kill it's self. lol Idk just a lot some of it I can't stand from it. That it was embarrassing when it came out. So ya I feel the same. lol XD
God, I hate this movie. I hate almost every element. The cute relationship they talk about? I thought it was bad rom-com-levels. All of the storylines feel underdeveloped and disconnected, Electro was laughable, it wasn't memorable. I will give you this: Paul Giamatti was very enjoyable. I remember kind of liking Sally Field, but I just couldn't remember the next day. All-in-all, dull and bland.
If you thought Spider-man was bad, you should've heard what they planned with Amazing Spider-Man 3; resurrecting Peter's parents along with Gwen Stacy and her dad. Yeah let that sink in.
For some reason, the one thing I just *so* hated about this movie, and the series in general, is Andrew Garfield's hair. It not only looks ridiculous(and spoils half his scenes for me), I just can't see how it fits under the mask.
Funny how Rob kept begging they give the right to Marvel cause they know what they're doing but in his Thor Dark World sibling rivalry he said there were no good Marvel movies outside of Iron Man and Avengers
Maguire's Spiderman I love, mostly because I grew up with it. Andrew Garfield's Spiderman, I have a problem with. Tom Holland, I'm cool with. If they had to reboot Spiderman, I'd say Holland is the better choice to go with.
Did Rob actually describe the first Amazing Spider-Man as colorful? It was so colorless and bland outside of the Spider-Man suit. This film was colorful, but the first one was definitely not colorful.
say what you will...TOM HOLLAND FANS! but...Andrew Garfield was the best Spider man even if his movies got heavily critiscized. Hes the best actor BY FAR over McGuire and Holland. And he just fit that role perfect
I agree that the acting it generally good throughout, however that doesn't stop me from hating this film with a furious passion. Just in terms of personal opinion, I honestly feel that this is quite possibly the worst big budget Hollywood blockbuster released in the last few years that doesn't have the word "Transformers" in the title, though it should be noted that I haven't seen every movie that fits this description. Doug and Rob point out the problem, too much shit going on in a horrible script that has no idea what it wants to do. They might have been able to find a silly, fun movie in this mess, but I couldn't. The plot wantonly jumps around, characters act without rhyme or reason, Jamie Foxx is horribly miscast (though he still tries his best), the film constantly insulted my intelligence, and the score is bad to the point of being distracting. However, I still am grateful for this movie because it has given me many hours of rants to my friends, who I will force to watch it for a bad movie knight. TLDR -- Kudos to the actors for making the most with what they were given, but this movie is terrible.
***** I went into the movie wanting to go along for the ride but it kicked me off early on and just continued to piss me off throughout the painfully long running time. If you were able to hang on and enjoy the spectacle, then more power to you. By no means am I a big time comic fan, but I've always enjoyed Spider Man and thought this films successor was quite enjoyable, so I my hopes were high. And you are right that they are trying to set things up and that could have been a contributing factor to this movie feeling so crowded. Hopefully they got all the set up out of the way and will be able move on with the Sinister Six and Spider Man 3 with greater focus and clarity. I still generally like the cast and don't really blame director for this mess (I imagine the studio was applying major pressure) so by no means do I think the series is a lost cause.
I like Spider-Man. Probably my favorite superhero. Not a fan of The Amazing Spider-Man, though. Honestly, I just found it kind of boring. I can't bring myself to actually care about any of these characters, and I'm the sort of person who tends to get attached to characters VERY easily, even if most people hate them. This one... I honestly felt worse about the death of Electro than (Insert Spoiler Here). Yeah, what he did wasn't excusable, but geez. Talk about being dealt a shitty hand in life. As if that weren't enough, from the way he talked, acted, and obsessed over Spider-Man, it felt to me like he had some unspecified mental illness. Or maybe it was specified. I dunno. There were points in the movie where I was zoning out due to boredom. In general, I just thought it was all over the place. Too many subplots all coming at you at once, and they were simultaneously rushed and tedious to sit through. I don't know how that's even possible. I just remember it being bland, forgettable, and with waaaaay to much angst. I know it's the hip thing for superhero movies to be dark nowadays, but I always kind of liked Spider-Man's nerdy quips and funny moments on top of the drama. I just kind of wanted this movie to end, though. It just didn't keep my interest. Too much talking and moping and talking and moping some more, with not a whole lot ever getting freaking resolved. I dunno. I'm sure someone will blast me for not being a true fan of what Spider-Man really stands for. XD It's probably just me that feels this way.
The Amazing Spider-man 2 rehashes the same problem it has with Spider-man 3. Underdeveloped villains. Script that goes nowhere. Cliched story lines that's been overdone. The only thing that's redeeming in this movie would be the new Spidey suit, Electro's special effects, characters, acting and spoiler alert Gwen's death.
At least spiderman 3 their are good moments and it was about Parker try to tear out his inner deamon
and not even gwen's death since in the comics she was one of those characters whose sole purpose was to be built up to die to bring turmoil and drama to the main characters--cause yeah that's a comic book trait so basically it's the movie just copying the comics so no real shout out needed for that.
Mckenzie .Latham The movie may have been copying the comics, but in reality, isn't it suppose to take something from its original source material? Gwen's death might've been tragedy bait so that the main character has to face real consequences for every action that he takes, but the Raimi trilogy *NEVER* really did anything of the same scale that ASM2 did. The only real death Peter had to deal with (in the Raimi trilogy) that affected him emotionally was uncle Ben. Mary Jane didn't die, yes Harry died, but it wasn't a "punch to the gut" feeling like with his uncle and Norman's death was really just so that he could be there to support Harry in his time of need.
Jason Carson Gwen's death was probably the only good thing in TASM2's story.
hunterkiller1440 I don't know... I kinda liked the build up of Max Dillion's transformation and the first real scene of Electro and Spider-Man, that is until the team up/alliance with Harry/G. Goblin, which didn't make sense, but as Rob and Doug both said, it was too much being thrown at you in one movie.
This movie was only made for 2 reasons
1. For Gwen to die
2. To set up Sinister 6
It somehow fails at both
1. Money
2. Cash
3. Moolah
"The actor, not the cat."
...now I have the image in my head of Garfield the cat playing Spider-Man.
Why did you do that to me???
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As long as he does NOT start dancing to James Brown Im fine with it.
@@gimmesympathy7112 Of course not he will dance to the Pussycat Dolls
@@jfdrac touche
Some people say that Gwen Stacy was only in this movie to set up her death and the introduction of Spider-Man's "real girlfriend", Mary Jane Watson. The interesting thing is, if Gwen Stacy did NOT die in this movie, people would complain that the movie wasn't trying hard enough to stay "close to the comics", where she dies after her neck gets snapped (in fact, the movie pulls it off pretty well. Now if she was on the bridge from Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movie with the Green Goblin throwing her off, THAT would be " accurate to the comics"). Also, if anyone actually LISTENS to what Electro and Spider-Man are saying in their first scene together, Electro did NOT turn on Spider-Man because he "forgot who he was". That is only what the trailers make it seem like. Electro turns on Spider-Man because he thought Spider-Man set him up to get blasted away by a sniper (which almost worked).
THANK YOU!!!
Edward Nigma Can't believe i saw someone who actually saw the movie in the comments,hats off to you
Edward Nigma Actually the complaint was more how they focused on the relationship throughout the film only to kill her off at the very end, if they hadn't focused on the relationship so much less people would have complained, also there's always going to be someone complaining about the complainers as well, doesn't matter what someone complains about, someone like you will defend it, that's not a bad thing but it kind of makes your argument fall flat.
jessebrown1996 That may be true, but my argument still has merit. See, it's not just "defending the movie to defend it", it's "actually paying attention to the movie, noticing someone who *didn't* pay attention to the movie (and who is vehemently saying the movie is bad), and stating why I disagree with them".
Edward Nigma Well your main defense is "people will complain no matter what" and that argument holds little to no merit because the simple fact that people will complain no matter what doesn't make complaints any less valid, the rest of your argument isn't really about why the movie is good, you're just explaining why some people are wrong about Electro.
Many say Maguire's Spider-Man doesn't crack enough jokes. Ironically though, if you play the offical video games for the films (can't speak for 3....but 1 and 2, for sure), he cracks a lot of jokes in-game (and it's Maguire doing the voice acting). It works really well.
And it's not like Maguire doesn't crack jokes at all in the movies, he's just more focused on getting the job done. Garfield seems to be the opposite.
Rhett Gedies I actually preferred the video games to the movies. I liked Maguire in both, but I just liked how they did everything in the games a bit more. Plus come on, open world NYC is never bad.
***** I respect your opinion. But I love Maguire in all 3.
After the reboot, I lost faith in Spidey films. They can do whatever they want with the character now, because I really don't care how they write or play him anymore.
+John McKinney
i like Maguire
+John McKinney. i like him in 2... less so in three
+Rhett Gedies The fact that many viewers were left with the sense that McGuires Spider man had no sense of humor means MgGuire couldn't project the main aspect of Spidey's character. It left me with the imnpression that McGuire's Spidey and Parker were mute.
"No smart is adult" THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I try to tell that to everyone
Spiderman 2 is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better.
***** Spot on
Obviously its one of the greatest sequels of all time
No!!!!!
i like the amazing spider man more than spiderman 3
Why people hate Spider-Man 3?
There were plenty of good stuff there. Probably my favourite out of trilogy.
SpikeRatchet Mostly b/c of the dance scene.
And barely any Venom.
+SpikeRatchet Many good reasons why and im not saying why since its your favorite and you like it and I don't want to offend anyone but just remember its an opinion. Just saying
Emo peter
I disagree when it comes to Rob saying that Garfield wasn't geeky enough.
I think people confuse nerds with being shy and insecure. Garfield is super awkward and nerdy in the films but he's not acting like he's a shy, whiny, little bully victim. He takes his awkwardness and turns it into charm/confidence.
silja lin Not really. Hes only awkward towards the girl he likes. Otherwise, Rob is pretty much on the dot. Its not really about him acting like a nerd, its about him as nerdy, early Peter Parker, and dear lord, he is far from it.
i actually agree with Doug on a lot of movies. ASM2 was not that horrible in my opinion.
There is, within Amazing Spider-Man 2, the perfect Spider-Man film. The romance works, and Spider-Man himself is basically perfect, even if they did maybe fast forward his character development a bit and land at the more college-era 'comfortable with himself' Parker. If the movie had JUST been Electro, it could have been good. If the movie had JUST been Green Goblin, it could have been good, but they tried to squeeze Harry's ENTIRE character arc into basically... what, 40 minutes of screen time? What the Raimi films spent 3 movies on, and did well, this movie tries to squeeze into about the same runtime as an Episode of Arrow, and it just doesn't work. Electro quickly gets sidelined in his own movie. And... honestly, I think it should have ended about 15 minutes earlier and saved the real 'set up the Sinister Six' shit for a mid-credit teaser. Let the movie end on the funeral. It's a downer, but the movie would have been stronger for it. Set up the Sinister Six as a mid-credit thing, not an end credit, a mid-credit, let the audience know that Peter's going to have to put the webs back on in the next one.
It frustrates me that a movie that got Spider-Man himself SO RIGHT ends up a pretty bad movie entirely because they were bending over backwards to set up a Sinister Six movie that now will NEVER happen. It's like finding out that a beloved television series last season (A season that got it canceled) ended up being a peace of shit because of some weird marketing deal for a product that never actually made it to market. Like if half a season of Transformers was promoting the damn Gobots!
I can definitely agree that Electro should have been the sole antagonist of TASM2. Electro’s character was never really that well-defined in the comics, so there’s a lot of room to create a very open-ended interpretation of the character, which to TASM2’s credit, was taken advantage of, at least somewhat. However, Harry Osborn’s transformation into the Green Goblin and Gwen Stacy’s death should have been saved for TASM3. As many people have mentioned, it’s bizarre that in TASM1, Peter acts like he knows nothing about OsCorp before he becomes Spider-Man, yet they reveal in this film that he and Harry were childhood friends. It should have been that he and Harry meet each other in TASM2, and they develop a new friendship that goes sour throughout the course of the film, and then maybe the better, hypothetical version of TASM2 ends with some sort of teaser that foreshadows Harry’s inevitable transformation. (Yes, this is one case where the TASM films SHOULD have directly copied the Raimi trilogy, but didn’t due to Sony’s stupid studio interference.)
I kinda feel like watching this movie gives you a sense of how Spiderman probably feels half the time as Spiderman. There's too much shit going on in his life. Haha
"Smart is adult!"
- Doug Walker
That's not true
They really really really should've used the design of electro from Spectacular Spider-man the tv show
+Forkdude it would have looked too goofy in live action
+J- Rich If memory serves, he just had the green rubber suit with a mask and goggles, and it looked pretty gritty.
+Forkdude That show was so good
I really like those Reviews from Doug and Rob, sometimes they are even more enjoyable than the nostalgia critics :)
sibling rivalry has become my new favorite series you are doing!
I like Marvel films, but I wish a chunk of them would focus on telling a full story instead of delivering sequel fuel and fanboy service.
This isn't an actual Marvel movie rather a Sony movie
Jamail -van Westering
well Avengers actually i would say was both sequel fuel (with thanos at the end credits) and fan boy service, same with Guardians of the Galaxy which was solely fan boy service
Mckenzie .Latham But to their credit, they did it more subtle, some more subtle than others. This was in your face build-up.
*****
Yeah and now Sony no longer has rights to Spider-Man, so it was build up for nothing. Now that's counting your chickens before they hatch.
Sony technically still has the rights. It's a joint partnership with Marvel. But you're right. Sony is desperate for a franchise that they didn't take into consideration that ASM2 still must be successful.
The people who made this film teased Kraven the Hunter and refused to deliver...
...they deserved to be flayed, impaled and crucified...
Demonflesh spawn When was Kraven ever teased?
***** At the end of the Amazing Spiderman 2, which clearly showed Kraven's spear, with his symbol engraved on it's head. Kraven was also teased through the lion skull with gilded teeth Harry Osborne had received from him...
Demonflesh spawn Ah, right. That was probably more of a tease to Sinister Six, though.
But since Sony really has no idea what to do with these movies, we're getting our third iteration of Spider-Man already. So that might not happen.
***** Agreed, but Kraven was in there, always has been in there, and was teased along with all the other characters. For denying us the opportunity to see perhaps the greatest criminal organisation in comic-book movie history, and especially for failing to show a character as godly as Kraven, I say 'from Hell's heart I stab I thee...'
no good x-men films, but I like them?
what did you smoke?
X2?
FUTURE PAST?
X1?
FIRST CLASS?
I think X1 is overrated and First Class was actually worse than X3. But X2 and DOFP are the business.
+Zlad! Vevo
My scores for the X-Men films:
X-Men - 7/10
X2: X-Men United - 8/10
X-Men: The Last Stand - 4/10
X-Men Origins: Wolverine - 4/10
X-Men: First Class - 8/10
The Wolverine - 7/10
X-Men: Days of Future Past - 10/10
Deadpool - 6/10
X-Men: Apocalypse - 7/10
Wouldn't a 7.9 or an 8.9 just be an 8 or 9? What's the difference? Like, couldn't you just round it? Just curious.
Sir Jellybob
I think it's a matter of accuracy.
I doubt that, considering The "Amazing" Spider-Man 2 was released in 2014, a month before Days of Future Past and almost 3 years after First Class, but whatever.
I hate when I'm called a hipster just b/c I like the Amazing series better than the Raimi series (I like that series too). I unbiasedly feel that the Amazing series is a little better than the Raimi series.
The thing with the two series is that Rami trilogy has a simpler story but bland characters while the TASM duology (is that right?) that the story is more scrambled but its characters are far more interesting. I think that's why I like TASM2 as much as I do compared to SM3. SM3 was crammed with stuff and it's characters were boring as hell so I was bored throughout but the characters in TASM2 are so interesting and great that I enjoyed just watching them all interact. It's why TASM1 is my favourite of all the films. It had a simple story like the first two Rami films with a bit of foreshadowing and interesting characters.
CloudFreedomFighters Right on, pal!
Dr.CookiesNeedLoveLikeEverthingDoes I said it was my favourite out of all the Spider-Man films. I didn't say it was my favourite movie of all time.
I enjoy the raimi films (except the third one)
but I love the amazing films,
and I will defend them with my life.
And I will defend the Raimi series until I cease to exist.
Finally someone agrees, while I do like Garfields peter parker better its only because he's not a loser at all. He'd be one of the cool kids everyone would want to be friends with. Hollywood screws that geek imagery up a lot in movies though where sure they stutter alot but for the most part say funny witty things and you end up thinking "well ya he's gonna get the girl at the end no surprise"
Favorite line was about how dark and gritty doesn't automatically make adult; smart makes adult.
okay the itsy bitsy spider thing was actually a running gag in the comics. Several villians woudl sing or quote it when getting an upper hand on spiderman the biggest one being the green goblin...Just like he did in the first movie those not when he was beating spiderman but rather laying the trap and what not. As for the "sound bars" on the Pillars if you look at them before he starts destroying the power station they are fully lit up being charged with power. Then go off. And if you watch through out the enitre movie lights flickering on and off and all sorts of electrical disturbances happen aroudn electro. He has a massive electronic field aroudn him which its jsut charging them as he releases more energy but he does not keep a constantly flow so they start filling then drain again. I mean his electrical field is even reaching those damn planes and fucknig with the atmosphere. Its jsut showing how his power is effecting the environment aroudn him he is not intentionally focusing on making them like up like sound bars its just a visual effect to show what all he is actually effecting. So if you don't like the visual effect that fine but trying to argue its stupid cause you think the villain is intentionally causing that is just as silly as that idea in itself. And again the its bitsy spider thing..i mean its a comic book movie based on a comic book that had a lot of banter and quips mainly from spiderman and his villains including electro loved to mock him while they were beating him which if you watch while hes doing that he's putting some hard hits on the spider.
Garfield and Stone were great given their material, but this movie is a damn mess beyond that.
I really think TASM series suffered from coming so soon after the much adored Raimi series. Raimi's series were quite enjoyable but they had many flaws and inconsistencies (the first 2 were quite formulaic). I think it would be better if we erased both from memory, yet kept the best elements of both movies and rolled it into a new series.
This was one of the worst modern superhero movies I have ever sat through. I can't believe Doug loves this movie.
People have opinions bro
Why was it? What makes you think this? For me, the movie was funny, action packed and very emotional. How could people not like it?
+mounir maged Doug did not say he loved this movie. You don't need to get this angry. I feel like they overlooked some of the things that did develop for Peter Parker's character in the original trilogy just because they didn't like how the style worked for that one. They aren't perfect reviewers. JUST GET OVER YOURSELF He acknowledged the many problems with this movie but had a different outlook on them!
When I first saw this movie, I was overwhelmed. I thought there was way too much thrown at you. It still is flawed, but when I saw it a second time, I really liked it. I LOVE the first scene big scene with Electro. I think that both film series have pros and cons but I think the Amazing Spiderman movies are a little better. So while I acknowledge that it has flaws, I still recommend it. I don't consider AS2 a "bad movie". I understand people's problems with, but I think the pros slightly out-weigh the cons. I think that it's underrated.
Did the effects really make you forget about the story for TAS2?
hunterkiller1440 I know that the story was packed with A LOT of content. But I think that it's a pretty decent story considering all the stuff that was packed in. It's my 3rd favorite Spiderman movie (a close call for 3rd place between this one and Raimi's original). My order:
TASM
SM2
TASM2
videogamehunter820 Every word of that was how I feel.
It's deservedly rated. It completely ruined the Green Goblin and the Osborns.
Raimi>>>>Webb
Finally someone who does something else than talk trash about it!!😀😀😀😀
The reason Gwen is so smart is because of Spectacular Spider-Man
16:00 This was before Mad Max: Fury Road came out.
So mad about amazing spiderman series being ended early
As much as I like Marvel and I know they can do it better, I really don't like their decision to start from scratch AGAIN. They didn't even finish a complete arc with this series! They were right on the verge of something great, but then Marvel had to throw it away.
I liked Tobey and Andrew more as Spider-Man than Tom, tbh. Tom is too young to portray Spider-Man (I know spidey is 16, but i dont think he can act it well...he seems like he's 12).
I feel like this is the only fair review for this movie.
The first time I saw this, I just took it for what it was and enjoyed it, after multiple viewings...I started to realize what a fucking mess it was and how much wasted potential it had, basically the opposite of most movies people consider "BAD"
His birth name actually is Marc Webb.
It was like Spider-Man 3 without the stupid dance scene.
+jessebrown1996 and the plot made even less sense in TAS2
+TheBrownTown008 and the dance scene is hilarious!
Jkop That is true, only real problem with it was they followed it up with peter essentially hitting Mary Jane, they didn't ease in very well.
funny thing is...when Stan Lee created spider man..his publisher told him the character was a dumb idea and nobody would like the character..cause nobody likes spider.
No good X-Men films? X2, First Class, The Wolverine and DOFP are all good, if not great.
X-Men, X2, First Class, Days of Future Past
SAM HAYES I thought I typed that one too but guess I didn't. Still god though, but I could see why you potentially don't like The Wolverine, it's not the best film but it isn't atrocious.
Manuel Alanis No, not atrocious. Wolverine Origins and The Last Stand are the only atrocious ones
Don't worry, even though he doesn't mention it here (he mentioned it in his reviews for them) that he thinks First Class was a solid film, and that DOFP is both genuinely great and the best one.
I really didn't like this movie. It was convoluted as hell, the character arcs and development were attempted but it was it was all so rushed, none of the actors besides Jamie Foxx gave a fuck, so much Sony product placement that it was actually distracting, and it was just a total mess.
Even upon a second viewing I didn't like it.
What's funny is that Oxford University isn't a single school, it's a series of unrelated schools that are collectively referred to as Oxford University.
And now because Sony screwed up and didn't learn their past mistakes from Spider Man 3, we won't get a proper resolution for these series of films. You dun goofed Marvel.
+Lithium X Yeah all Sony not Marvel.
Tobey Maguire has range in his Spider-Man movies. He runs the gambit from inoffensive geek to vengeful, to funny, to heroic.
Well, think of it like this, the BIG problem with this movie is the villain overflow. So you sometimes forget rhino or electro are in the movie because, after their defeat, either Harry's subplot or peter finding his parents steal the spotlight from them. Sometimes, that's normal, but the pacing isn't that great in this film, so they are often treated like minor roles, when in reality, electro is supposed to be important because, he is one of the big 2 antagonists. And developing and giving antagonists personality and clear motivations are important, so they could have done that a bit better. But l, it's good that harry was getting a lot of screen time because, he most likely would have been a major part of the planned sequels.
I wish they would do these more often
I miss the dark tone from the first amazing spider man :(
Four Things The Reboot Had Going for it: Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, Web-Shooters, and the Costume. Still a pretty good movie, though.
Who else thought that right in the beginning Doug said "Gwen Stacey is dead"?
When I heard it I was shocked like: "Wtf, is it spoiler corner video?"
By the way, Electro's design in the movie is from the "Ultimate Marvel" comic books. The movie makers did not "rip off" Dr. Manhattan, since this version of Electro was already an existing design.
Edward Nigma Dr. Manhatten was created 20 years before Ultimate Marvel was made so yes, they did rip off the design
***** I'm talking about the movies, not the comics. If you listen to the video, they are clearly talking about the movies. If the "Amazing Spider-Man 2" movie was made *after* the "Watchmen" movie, people would say that if was ripped off.
Best christmas explosion EVER!!
I honestly think people are being overly critical of this film purely because it wasn't a part of the MCU. You complained that it spent most of the movie setting up future films? WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK IT'LL BE ANY DIFFERENT IN THE MCU?!?!
23:17 I’ve come from the future to say Marvel doesn’t do much better. In fact they do worse. However that truly amazing Spider-Man film ur waiting will come out and is made by Sony.
12:39 no he is not the right person for advice on superhero movies
it really bothers me that lots of people don't like the story in this because the story in the amazing Spider-Man 2 was EXACTLY like it was going for in the original comic series
I actually enjoyed this film quite a bit. I see a lot of the problems and understand where people are coming from but the characters were really good {especially the leads}, the effects were great, the action was really cool, the romance was really well done and some clever and smart elements. At times, it could get too complicated and I was disappointed with how they handled the Rhino but it isn't that awful as a lot of people deem it to be {looking at you RedLetterMedia}. I'm actually kind of sad that they scrapped 3.
I knew nothing about Spider-Man going into The Amazing Spider-Man movies (only watched them a few months ago) and I wasn't confused with the movie, in fact, I enjoyed the heck out of it!
I totally bought him being a little off and awkward and I found him relatable. I actually just found out earlier that according to the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator Spider-Man, or Peter Parker more-so, and I are apparently the same personality type, INFP's (granted that is based on fans analyzing his personality and giving him a "personality type", so take that for whatever it is worth. I, on the other hand, have always been and INFP every time I have taken the test). Anyway, I thought it was interesting and it made sense why I related to him and bought into Garfield's Peter Parker.
I have seen people complain about Electro (or whatever his name was), that his progression from awkward dude to super villain was random and didn't make any sense but I think it made perfect sense. It was painfully obvious that he was already not... totally... uh... mentally healthy... come on, he was convinced he was best friends with Spider-Man after talking to him once, he had an unhealthy obsession and didn't have the ability to separate fantasy from reality and once his "perfect, best-friend-fantasy" bubble was broken he freaked the heck out and became a super villain. I used to work with elementary kids who had behavioral disorders and emotionally disturbed kids and he reminded me of them quite a bit, I bought his character and his fall to villainy. (Granted, none of them are super villains now... I hope.)
I totally thought the same thing about the skirt :D
Anyone else agree that this isn't as bad as everyone says? That 10 minute opening was brilliant
The Raimi films are MUCH better than these 2 pieces of garbage. Even the thrid one is better than both of the Webb films, even though it is a bad movie.
Okay even though I like Garfield way more than Maguire, I can admit that the better percent of the Raimi films are good opposed to the Webb films and that SM2 is definitely better than the best TASM movie, but TASM 1 is not a piece of garbage and SM3 is not better than it. And even though Maguire is the better Peter, Garfield is the by far better Spider-man and his character grows throughout the movies and Maguire arguably does not at all. So if you don't like Garfield or his films that's fine but don't say that the whole thing is terrible.
+PE_STROUD Look, I enjoyed both the Garfield spider man films, but lets face it. His character development, is angsty teen who puts on a costume and gets cocky, to angsty teen who puts on a costume and gets cocky, with a dead girlfriend.
Dicky Collins Before I say anything, I'd like to apologize for the awful wording in my comment, I don't know what happened there. But to reply to you, I see where you're coming from and you have a point, however, we see him give Connors the equation which turns him into the Lizard and gets Captain Stacy killed, and he promises that he'll stay away from Gwen, which he does but then goes back to her and it gets her killed, and then he realizes the mistake he made twice. Granted the character ark is just the same thing twice but at least it's something. In the Raimi films Parker just went from winy bratt to winy bratt.
PE_STROUD In the Raimi films, Peter began as a nerdy kid who felt bad for himself and was petty, and after he saw his uncle die, he learned he needed to gain some responsibility. In Spider Man 2, he had to learn what that responsibility meant losing. Everything was going against him, his grades failing, his friendship failing, his relationship with MJ failing, and eventually he gave up. Eventually, he realized that he still needed to help, whether that meant losing his normal life or not. He became spider man again, and took on that burden. Not once did he whine or complain or act like a brat. Only in the beginning of spider man was he a brat. Well, in Spider Man 3 as well, but that was because of the black suit.
Dicky Collins He complained all the time though, he even quit being Spider-man because it was too hard, granted he learned his lesson but still.
10:21 PAHAHA whaatt? I didn't think that scene was anything special at all.. Come on guys.
Now, Aunt Mays speech in Spider-Man 2 about heroes was an Academy Award worthy moment. It's got the feels yo
These videos are honestly a million times better than the actual NC reviews, just me though.
I wish Marvel wasn't rebooting Spider-Man again with another high school story. I get that they want someone who could foreseeably play Spider-Man for the next 10 years but I'm just sick of 16 year old Peter Parker. I want to see the Peter Parker I knew from the comics, the one Rob was talking a little about: he's confident, he's sarcastic, he's got the shitty Parker luck but he always tries his hardest. I'm just tired of these same nerdy, social awkward high school stories. Enough, we've had 5 of them now.
I never read the comics...yet I get a lot from actual comic book readers/commentors what they are supposed to be like and figure it out on my own.
Doug you complain about the tone in Spiderman 2 and yet that problem is ever present in one of favourite movies the Dark Knight, when a really intense scene happens and then Christen Bale in rubber suit comes in saying "YOU DON'T WAN'T HURT THE BOY HARVEY" in his stupid gravelly voice, that's what I call a messed up tone...
Complaining about how electro is like palpatine really isn't fair... considering the fact that electro's powers consist of him LITERALLY shooting lightning out of his body...
00:57 "I have Osteoporosis"
"he should make these rigs go up and down like sound bars."
Personally I don't see what's wrong with that. He's electricity isn't he? Plus the fight scene with him and Spidey was amazing, and the music was INCREDIBLE. I think that the reason that there was so much stuff happening was because the writers wanted the audience to feel just how much the odds were stacked against Spiderman. And Gwen's death was so emotional for me, and having Rest Of My Life play during this? I actually cried. While I did recognise it as being from the comics, and knew what was going to happen, that didn't mean that it still wasn't sad. And the action was spot on, the jokes always hit home with me. I really wish they made a third movie.
Am I the only one who thinks the dubstep electro was actually pretty cool.
I get the feeling with these new Spiderman movies, that Sony execs literally said "Don't do the thing the last movies did", then left the room. Leaving everyone too scared to put any of the good points from the old movies.
I would have liked the movie, if they broke it up into about 2-3 movies. Also, while I didn't like the sam raimi films, I absolutely loved Sandman introduction, in the movie.
edit: almost forgot to say. Hell yeah! 2 more for the Gwen Stacey over Marry "The Damsel" Jane.
I see 2 typos.
I counted 3. Unnecessary comma, uncapitalized proper noun, and a fragment sentence in the edit.
I think Marc Webb was used as a piece by Sony to do what they wanted with the reboot. He only had _(500) Days of Summer_ under his belt before this......he was malleable and let Sony control the films.
Sony did that with _Spider-Man 3_ as well.....HOWEVER, I love 3. It's not as good as 1 and 2. But Raimi rode out very well (and then had the guts to say, I'm done being pushed around). Everytime I see it, I'm shocked why it is so poorly received these days (Newsflash: the first year or so of its release, people genuinely liked it. The animosity is a more recent thing)
+James Brincefield Yeah lol I agree to I hated it so much I wanted the movie to just kill it's self. lol Idk just a lot some of it I can't stand from it. That it was embarrassing when it came out. So ya I feel the same. lol XD
Rosemary Harris Definitely Pwned Sally Fields In These Movies
And then along came the AILF Tomei
Rosemary harris is gold standard. Sally field is a great deviation. And tomei was...
@@jfdrac please don't tell me that means what I think it means
@@spacegeneral8630 I still have to see the movie
doug walker i love you
but tobet was a peter parker and andrew was a model andrew is not a geek
Doug and Rob have odd taste in movies. Though in this vid I agree mostly with Rob.
God, I hate this movie. I hate almost every element. The cute relationship they talk about? I thought it was bad rom-com-levels. All of the storylines feel underdeveloped and disconnected, Electro was laughable, it wasn't memorable. I will give you this: Paul Giamatti was very enjoyable. I remember kind of liking Sally Field, but I just couldn't remember the next day. All-in-all, dull and bland.
If you thought Spider-man was bad, you should've heard what they planned with Amazing Spider-Man 3; resurrecting Peter's parents along with Gwen Stacy and her dad. Yeah let that sink in.
+MrPerfectcritic Wait what?
Denis Leary commented on that. Look it up.
Ok
***** Was it a interview?
Yeah, although it was more of an idea they had. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did it.
For some reason, the one thing I just *so* hated about this movie, and the series in general, is Andrew Garfield's hair. It not only looks ridiculous(and spoils half his scenes for me), I just can't see how it fits under the mask.
Funny how Rob kept begging they give the right to Marvel cause they know what they're doing but in his Thor Dark World sibling rivalry he said there were no good Marvel movies outside of Iron Man and Avengers
+matt hagerty I guess they think they could do better with SpiderMan except for those. Idk. lol
Wait do the directors help with the script?
It's a good movie, I enjoyed it!
This movie is awful. The problems far outweigh the positive qualities.
Still better than the MCU Trilogy.
SONY is the one who copied Spider-Man's logo for the PLAYSTATION 3. I swear they have a Spider-Fetish. Someone in the company really loves Spider-Man.
Maguire's Spiderman I love, mostly because I grew up with it. Andrew Garfield's Spiderman, I have a problem with. Tom Holland, I'm cool with. If they had to reboot Spiderman, I'd say Holland is the better choice to go with.
What is it that makes a movie technically a "good movie"?
I'm pretty sure Doug is the only person who thinks the first two X-men movies are not good, that really takes out credibility from his reviews.
5:35 I'm for Sanduval. Maybe they'll make her his girlfriend in the next movie.
Did Rob actually describe the first Amazing Spider-Man as colorful? It was so colorless and bland outside of the Spider-Man suit. This film was colorful, but the first one was definitely not colorful.
Can you do easy A
I'm sorry I can't understand why people like the new movies
And now Spidey is being integrated into the MCU. HA HA HA! (hindsight)...
but he didnt review it outside of this
So uh... Homecoming review...? :D
The next one...yeah...should have kept Gwen Stacy ALIVE...I know (the comics)...but come on....why build up someone just to kill them
say what you will...TOM HOLLAND FANS! but...Andrew Garfield was the best Spider man even if his movies got heavily critiscized. Hes the best actor BY FAR over McGuire and Holland. And he just fit that role perfect
Who is the elder?
Rob. On the left.
Frst spider man movies mj soock
Jesus christ the level of autism in this video is immeasurable
I agree that the acting it generally good throughout, however that doesn't stop me from hating this film with a furious passion. Just in terms of personal opinion, I honestly feel that this is quite possibly the worst big budget Hollywood blockbuster released in the last few years that doesn't have the word "Transformers" in the title, though it should be noted that I haven't seen every movie that fits this description.
Doug and Rob point out the problem, too much shit going on in a horrible script that has no idea what it wants to do. They might have been able to find a silly, fun movie in this mess, but I couldn't. The plot wantonly jumps around, characters act without rhyme or reason, Jamie Foxx is horribly miscast (though he still tries his best), the film constantly insulted my intelligence, and the score is bad to the point of being distracting.
However, I still am grateful for this movie because it has given me many hours of rants to my friends, who I will force to watch it for a bad movie knight.
TLDR -- Kudos to the actors for making the most with what they were given, but this movie is terrible.
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I went into the movie wanting to go along for the ride but it kicked me off early on and just continued to piss me off throughout the painfully long running time. If you were able to hang on and enjoy the spectacle, then more power to you. By no means am I a big time comic fan, but I've always enjoyed Spider Man and thought this films successor was quite enjoyable, so I my hopes were high.
And you are right that they are trying to set things up and that could have been a contributing factor to this movie feeling so crowded. Hopefully they got all the set up out of the way and will be able move on with the Sinister Six and Spider Man 3 with greater focus and clarity. I still generally like the cast and don't really blame director for this mess (I imagine the studio was applying major pressure) so by no means do I think the series is a lost cause.
I like Spider-Man. Probably my favorite superhero. Not a fan of The Amazing Spider-Man, though. Honestly, I just found it kind of boring. I can't bring myself to actually care about any of these characters, and I'm the sort of person who tends to get attached to characters VERY easily, even if most people hate them. This one... I honestly felt worse about the death of Electro than (Insert Spoiler Here). Yeah, what he did wasn't excusable, but geez. Talk about being dealt a shitty hand in life. As if that weren't enough, from the way he talked, acted, and obsessed over Spider-Man, it felt to me like he had some unspecified mental illness. Or maybe it was specified. I dunno. There were points in the movie where I was zoning out due to boredom.
In general, I just thought it was all over the place. Too many subplots all coming at you at once, and they were simultaneously rushed and tedious to sit through. I don't know how that's even possible. I just remember it being bland, forgettable, and with waaaaay to much angst. I know it's the hip thing for superhero movies to be dark nowadays, but I always kind of liked Spider-Man's nerdy quips and funny moments on top of the drama. I just kind of wanted this movie to end, though. It just didn't keep my interest. Too much talking and moping and talking and moping some more, with not a whole lot ever getting freaking resolved.
I dunno. I'm sure someone will blast me for not being a true fan of what Spider-Man really stands for. XD It's probably just me that feels this way.
there is nothing to like about asm2 it is a lesson in turdature