@@LJ-fr1ei I can see you have a lot of experience to talk. hahahaha. Get back to your green thumb little young in. You don't know s*** compared to me I can guarantee it? I'll take all your money at the table. Let's do this.
Bro sounds like he’s planning on assassinating Kanye, referring to him in the past tense. “I loved Kanye’s phrase slicing so much, he was great at it!” Twists the knife deeper
@@shmunked no, nowadays people use fruity loops slicer or serato sample and chop things up, exactly like this, and put a splice drum loop over their slices.
@@zechs5079 obviously haven’t heard any of the mainstream stuff. Big names are using the lazy technique. Think of Jack Harlow or Nicki. Yung Gravy used Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley for god’s sake lol. No exploration or effort anymore in the mainstream.
The crazy thing about this short is you're not describing anything that made Kanye stand out, just, quite literally, an overall generalization of sampling.
Nah he hit the main point in that Kanye had the gift of finding and sampling that sweet spot vocal melody which is what led him to becoming one of the best producers rap has ever seen.
he is just telling you the creator of sampling,the very ways in which everyone does is copied from him,without him you would not have these ideas,this was before your advanced technology,try to get it
Actually back in the day people sped the records up because samplers didn’t have music disk space. By pitching records way up you could get much longer recordings on the sampler then pitch it down. Classic old trick.
He was talking about listening to records on a turntable before they even sampled it into the samplers because as you said there was not enough space to just put entire songs in their.
Speeding up samples was not to listen to songs faster 😂 it was for 1. To fit more on limited sampling time and 2. Old machines time stretch functions were bad or non existent, so to make an original soul song at 65 bpm to 88-90 bpm, we had to speed up the sample. Plus producers like RZA was doing the “chipmunk” sound way before kanye even touched an mpc or asr 10.
He is not talking about sampling he is talking about how some people like Ye were able to listen to so many different records before picking he right sample.
The chipmunk sound didn't happen because we "listened to records faster by speeding them up". Samplers had tiny amounts of sampling memory, so you maximised it by sampling the record at a higher speed and then slowing the sampler's playback. Pretty soon you had people deciding they liked the effect of pitched up sounds in general, both inside and outside hip-hop (the first rave music was built on helium vocals, for example). This is before Kanye ever made a beat and it has nothing to do with him.
Impatient listening is not what created the “high pitched” sample sound. Original drum machines (mpc’s) had a limited 8-12 second recording for clips, so to use the entire loop they would need to speed up the record for a sound longer than the available recording space on the machine. Now you know.
S/o to you for being the first fl tutorial master. I love internet money but you taught ppl how to grow and build before midi’s and loops. Much love dawg..
@@rustymixer2886 "For Heaven's Sake" - Wu Tang Clan 1997, the same year Cam and Jimmy formed The Diplomats. RZA is indisputably the Godfather of chipmunk soul.
Yea people tend to gloss over the fact Kanye gets more producers on his albums than dj Khalid gets features on his lol a lot of the credit for Kanye’s albums needs to go to other people besides him
Kanye changed the way i looked at production. I played piano, guitar, drums growing up and was pretty snobby about real instruments versus productions. Then i started to listen to Kanye and learned the infinity of creativity that can be advanced through electronica and technology
with my new airpods pro, I can finally hear the difference, by so many videos and music, The sub bass got a big boost and the separation from the instruments is much better. My old pros never really managed to separat the instruments.
Part of what created the chipmunk sound is using the default repitch time stretching algorithm (pitch and tempo are affected congruently) to speed up samples from their OG slow speed to a hiphop tempo. It also came out of necessity as sample time was limited with old drum machines. Pitching samples up would shorten them thus saving memory. Additionally, it’d help producers comb through songs quicker but often (especially) they wouldn’t sample soul songs purely for the chipmunk soul aesthetic. It’s because they genuinely listened to and enjoyed that music so they’d be familiar with the songs already. Many producers from this era had parents who lived through the golden age of soul.
Very smart man. He understood that in order to get & stay on top of the music industry he needs to work hard and be outstanding and different from all other artists
The chipmunk sound comes from rave, where they'd sample hip hop and soul which had much slower tempos than rave. At the time there was no way to match the tempo other than to increase the pitch.
They sped up records to listen to them faster back then, and still do. It's pretty universal. It's homage to record sampling that Ye, and a lot of artists before him did and still do.
Although FL and FL slicer existed when Kayne had his come up… “back in those days”, making it sound as if Kayne had his come up in the beginning of the 90’s and not early 2000… I remember those days, I actually lived through this days.
Kanye came up in the late 90's. He was making beats for Bad Boy and not getting credit bc they didn't want to consider it "producing". His name started blowing up in the early 2000's with Roc-a-fell-a, but he was coming up before then
We didn’t speed records up to listen to them faster. Our sample time was limited back then so we would sample stuff fast to get more of it then slow it down. Leaving stuff sped up was how we matched the BPM. The sped up soul samples weren’t “discovered” by accident.
Also a lot of guys don’t get credit for what the chopped sample sound became. When people were still doing more Jazzy and cohesive sounds, like what culminated into ILLmatic… you already had standouts with the chop sound.. Jay-Z’s Original Version of “In My Lifetime” (1994) produced by Ski. That beat stands out. Also, the beat and Pusha’s flow on The Clipse “The Funeral” (recorded somewhere between 96 and 99, released in 99). And of course cannot forget to mention THE RZA when it comes to sampling, esp the chipmunk sped up style.
The chipmunk sound is usually due to the producer trying to make a more upbeat or hip hop style tempo...those soul records usually had slow tempos so sometimes you had to speed up the record to get the tempo you wanted
Except that many DJs in Chicago were doing this when Kanye was 3 and 4 years old, all the way back to 82 and 83, it's literally how we created house music, the sampling and tempo shifts of disco cuts
yoooo this exactly the info i needed ngl I always wantwd to understand sampling better especially those samples i can turn into hiphop boombap ty 4 this
Depends tbh in Kanye’s older works that clearly idolizes dilla production he can’t touch them but vast the first two albums his production is far too different from those two producers to directly compare Like take album as different to compare as Yeezus
he will literally listen to an entire song
😂
haha. I know I find it so hard to listen to a whole song for a sample that would be crazy!
@@MacNifty just listened to your stuff mate, maybe watch a few more videos on how to produce 👍
@@LJ-fr1ei I was checking on your mom
@@LJ-fr1ei I can see you have a lot of experience to talk. hahahaha. Get back to your green thumb little young in. You don't know s*** compared to me I can guarantee it? I'll take all your money at the table. Let's do this.
Bro sounds like he’s planning on assassinating Kanye, referring to him in the past tense. “I loved Kanye’s phrase slicing so much, he was great at it!” Twists the knife deeper
Sorry for that 5 page essay 😂. Rip old Kanye 🪦
He says “Was” a lot. I’m like he still alive 😅
ye took himself out
Cause Ye peaked.
He's done ✔
lol you just described sampling, congratulations
lol yeah
Yeah but there’s sampling and there’s SAMPLING. Nowadays all producers do is just pitch up a super popular older song. Not even an old-head btw.
seriously i cant believe how people think they make "quality content" like this
@@shmunked no, nowadays people use fruity loops slicer or serato sample and chop things up, exactly like this, and put a splice drum loop over their slices.
@@zechs5079 obviously haven’t heard any of the mainstream stuff. Big names are using the lazy technique. Think of Jack Harlow or Nicki. Yung Gravy used Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley for god’s sake lol. No exploration or effort anymore in the mainstream.
why is bro talking in past tense 💀💀
He is still alive ya know🤣
Talking about the old Kanye, hence the past tense. New Kanye is an emotional and mental mess.
@@Jameslawzhe’s dead
He’s dead
@@Nopegrvht he’s dead Jim
Old kanye is like DJ Premiere or Alchemist. New Kanye is like Somebody else
The crazy thing about this short is you're not describing anything that made Kanye stand out, just, quite literally, an overall generalization of sampling.
💯
that part!
Nah he hit the main point in that Kanye had the gift of finding and sampling that sweet spot vocal melody which is what led him to becoming one of the best producers rap has ever seen.
he is just telling you the creator of sampling,the very ways in which everyone does is copied from him,without him you would not have these ideas,this was before your advanced technology,try to get it
@@MabawaVocal you're joking right?
MF DOOM did the same thing but he doesnt get slurped up
Actually back in the day people sped the records up because samplers didn’t have music disk space. By pitching records way up you could get much longer recordings on the sampler then pitch it down. Classic old trick.
Thats how I learned to sample
He was talking about listening to records on a turntable before they even sampled it into the samplers because as you said there was not enough space to just put entire songs in their.
It was also for increase the bpm cause soul song is very slow, like 60 or 70 bpm and hiphop songs back in early 2000 was about 90 bpm
@@Byronic19134I don't understand this comment, you've disagreed to agree, only to rewrite what was already said...
Still needs to be done, volca sample for example.
I NEED a full video on this type beat
Look up accurate beats - he’s a genius
RZA is Kanyes musicial father
Wow I can’t believe he listened to the entire song all the way from start to finish before sampling . Unheard of
Speeding up samples was not to listen to songs faster 😂 it was for 1. To fit more on limited sampling time and 2. Old machines time stretch functions were bad or non existent, so to make an original soul song at 65 bpm to 88-90 bpm, we had to speed up the sample. Plus producers like RZA was doing the “chipmunk” sound way before kanye even touched an mpc or asr 10.
Marley Marl predates them all. But other than that. Beautiful Post!💯💪🏾💙
The Kanye hype is wild
💯
He is not talking about sampling he is talking about how some people like Ye were able to listen to so many different records before picking he right sample.
Name a rza chipmunk beat for dipset did it
Kanye gone and sampled Hitler’s ideology
Whats hitlers ideology?
Wow so funny
What a dumb statement. Typical...
@@p0k3mn1 was pretty funny
@@thysweetlord hating the jews in addition to some taking over the world stuff.
The bomb squad would disagree.
facts. They had some insane sampling methods and flips in general. Love the musique concréte element of their production
The chipmunk sound didn't happen because we "listened to records faster by speeding them up". Samplers had tiny amounts of sampling memory, so you maximised it by sampling the record at a higher speed and then slowing the sampler's playback. Pretty soon you had people deciding they liked the effect of pitched up sounds in general, both inside and outside hip-hop (the first rave music was built on helium vocals, for example). This is before Kanye ever made a beat and it has nothing to do with him.
facts
Yup my first emu SP1200 only had 10 seconds of sampling time. 😂
Impatient listening is not what created the “high pitched” sample sound. Original drum machines (mpc’s) had a limited 8-12 second recording for clips, so to use the entire loop they would need to speed up the record for a sound longer than the available recording space on the machine. Now you know.
Kanye was OK. You ever heard of Dj Premier, Jdilla, El-p, madlib, many more?
THANK YOU!
I've been scrolling through comments and you were the only one to mention these legends!
Real recognize real
Todd edwards
preach
Pete Rock
Nujabes
You wanna see how sampling can be taken to the next level then just listen to some jungle from 93
kanye took sampling and revolutionized it though
S/o to you for being the first fl tutorial master. I love internet money but you taught ppl how to grow and build before midi’s and loops. Much love dawg..
Actually, the high pitched/chipmunk sound was pioneered by The Rza
Nope dipset made it popular before kanye
@@rustymixer2886 RZA was doing it long before Dip Set.
@3COI again, show me the song...what do I type in youtube search rza chipmunk beat
@@rustymixer2886 I responded to the other time you asked. For Heaven's Sake by Wu-Tang Clan
@@rustymixer2886 "For Heaven's Sake" - Wu Tang Clan 1997, the same year Cam and Jimmy formed The Diplomats. RZA is indisputably the Godfather of chipmunk soul.
I don’t think he creates his own music, someone else does, probably he has 10 producers and 10 arrangers
Yup
Ah, ofcourse a random broke college drop out kanye back then had access to all a dat.
Yea people tend to gloss over the fact Kanye gets more producers on his albums than dj Khalid gets features on his lol a lot of the credit for Kanye’s albums needs to go to other people besides him
Ayo, i need this song
kanye might be sampling music from ww2 soon
Love him or hate him. His sampling techniques is inspirational.
I love them air gaps in the chops, the moments of silences to rap in-between
fr need the full tutorial vid asap
now this actually makes sense on how he made the sample for 2024 by Playboi Carti
I know producers with more talent in their little toe than Kanye 😅
glad we had heard a little bit of music at the end
Bro Can we get a full video🚀
This sounds like a DJ Premier beat, Gang starr!!
One of the best yet.
The Bomb squad of the late 80s and early 90s made all of this look like Childs play.
So basically a connect the dots and follow the numbers type of fella
Hahahaha
Niiiice 😂
Kanye changed the way i looked at production. I played piano, guitar, drums growing up and was pretty snobby about real instruments versus productions. Then i started to listen to Kanye and learned the infinity of creativity that can be advanced through electronica and technology
with my new airpods pro, I can finally hear the difference, by so many videos and music, The sub bass got a big boost and the separation from the instruments is much better. My old pros never really managed to separat the instruments.
It's important to get used to a pair of headphones, after some time, you know where they are lacking so you can compensate
You literally just described sampling. If all sampling is to you is looking for that “one sound” you’ve been doing it wrong 😂
He’s not really doing anything wrong everyone makes music differently
This sounds more like primo than Kanye
You can work magic with the Ableton Drum Pad feature. Goated
I learned how to sample on drum machines and asr-still do because the hands on touch is just something different
Don’t say Kayne Sampling Say No I.D Sampling he’s the godfather
Part of what created the chipmunk sound is using the default repitch time stretching algorithm (pitch and tempo are affected congruently) to speed up samples from their OG slow speed to a hiphop tempo. It also came out of necessity as sample time was limited with old drum machines. Pitching samples up would shorten them thus saving memory. Additionally, it’d help producers comb through songs quicker but often (especially) they wouldn’t sample soul songs purely for the chipmunk soul aesthetic. It’s because they genuinely listened to and enjoyed that music so they’d be familiar with the songs already. Many producers from this era had parents who lived through the golden age of soul.
One of the most creative musicians of all time
i mean yeah but my fav sampling rn is probably DOOMs special herbs and Conductor Williams’ stuff
Yezzir🏆
most casual kanye fan
Ye all the way💙
We need the full tutorial bro
Kayne is a 🐐
Absolute goat
Sure picked a great time to mention Kanye was great
Chopping the music that was made by better men, that's what he did.
Exactly. Not quite like an actual creation.
Cry more. He’s a billionaire. What about you?
Very smart man. He understood that in order to get & stay on top of the music industry he needs to work hard and be outstanding and different from all other artists
But he's not. Everybody is sampling these days.
My FAVORITE PRODUCER
they speed the samples up to save memory on their hardware samplers
The chipmunk sound comes from rave, where they'd sample hip hop and soul which had much slower tempos than rave. At the time there was no way to match the tempo other than to increase the pitch.
wow - that dedication - before people sampled without listening
King ye
Yedolf
Kanye is top 3 hiphop beatmakers for sure
I learned this is why a lot of records go for so much money! The only way to get that “special sound” is from that specific record
dj premier, pete rock, the alchemist, the rza, diamond d, MADLIB and qtip have entered the chat.....also kanye got the chipmunk thing from the RZA
Ye got the chipmunk sound from RZA
I don't think either of them were necessarily going for that sound. It was just a way to get more sample time
They sped up records to listen to them faster back then, and still do. It's pretty universal. It's homage to record sampling that Ye, and a lot of artists before him did and still do.
@@zerk8402 less sampling time. Sped up record after you sample slow it back down
You just described most producers
kanye and his asr10 is one of the best music duos
meh
rest in peace kanye 😞
Don’t start that
This sentence just looks weird lol don’t say that
wouldn't that just prove his point?
@@kageba1.690 why not? the dude is a mess and belongs to mental hospital.
ONg Kanye pre opiates is a sobering reminder
He so dope❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
I feel like I gotta piece of Kanye in me 💯
yo the beat u jus showcased was fiRE
Although FL and FL slicer existed when Kayne had his come up… “back in those days”, making it sound as if Kayne had his come up in the beginning of the 90’s and not early 2000… I remember those days, I actually lived through this days.
Kanye came up in the late 90's. He was making beats for Bad Boy and not getting credit bc they didn't want to consider it "producing". His name started blowing up in the early 2000's with Roc-a-fell-a, but he was coming up before then
Actually it was easy on the Asr 10 and the Eps 16 plus. Now we have too much options 🤣
I appreciate you bro 🙏🏾 💯 💪🏾
I WANT THIS FULL VIDEO TYPE BEAT
We didn’t speed records up to listen to them faster.
Our sample time was limited back then so we would sample stuff fast to get more of it then slow it down.
Leaving stuff sped up was how we matched the BPM.
The sped up soul samples weren’t “discovered” by accident.
AN ENTIRE SONG 😮
J Dilla brought the best out of everyone.
sick sample launch the video🔥🔥
Versus Beats is the only producer on ytb who I’ve seen really make a accurate Ye type beat
Also a lot of guys don’t get credit for what the chopped sample sound became. When people were still doing more Jazzy and cohesive sounds, like what culminated into ILLmatic… you already had standouts with the chop sound.. Jay-Z’s Original Version of “In My Lifetime” (1994) produced by Ski. That beat stands out. Also, the beat and Pusha’s flow on The Clipse “The Funeral” (recorded somewhere between 96 and 99, released in 99). And of course cannot forget to mention THE RZA when it comes to sampling, esp the chipmunk sped up style.
the sped up chipmunk sound is actually because of the memory limitations of the emu sp-12, so people would speed up samples to fit more on the machine
The chipmunk sound is usually due to the producer trying to make a more upbeat or hip hop style tempo...those soul records usually had slow tempos so sometimes you had to speed up the record to get the tempo you wanted
kanye production❤
supreme great best unic
Man, Reason with its slicer is 20 years old
He got some of those skills from the real one, and the only J Dilla..
Lol, when kanye came around, sampling was totally established and done by all since the late 80s. Fruity loops btw… 😂
ASR 10 is on my dream list of Samplers!!!!
Blesses
Except that many DJs in Chicago were doing this when Kanye was 3 and 4 years old, all the way back to 82 and 83, it's literally how we created house music, the sampling and tempo shifts of disco cuts
yoooo this exactly the info i needed ngl I always wantwd to understand sampling better especially those samples i can turn into hiphop boombap ty 4 this
Youre gonna need a lot more than a 1 minute video to learn the art of beatmaking and production
@@calitrix5037 True. Baby steps
Dilla and Premo are WAY better producers in my eyes, but Kanye is a better artist in comparison
Depends tbh in Kanye’s older works that clearly idolizes dilla production he can’t touch them but vast the first two albums his production is far too different from those two producers to directly compare
Like take album as different to compare as Yeezus
doom and madlib are great at this too RIP DOOM
I think he’s referring to the fact that the Kanye we live with in 2022 has moved on from this style of music techniques sound etc
RZA created that chipmunk sound
Kayne my mannnn
I love youuuu
I love your ideologies
Uhhhhhh
Be album with Common Sense is a masterpiece
Just remember that Kanye got the high pitched soul from The RZA
but does anyone know who RZA is?
@@producedby3am344 if you don't then look him up.
His sample r proper n not sloppy.
Fruity slicer is good but sometimes I feel like cropping it yourself is better if you want specific chops and etc
RZA been done that and made that sound on the radio
Alot of hip hop producers do this..especially underground guys
We just need a bar that says “This is a Louis Vitton Don night” over the beat and it becomes perfect.