HUGE MISTAKE? Adding This Cichlid To My 10-foot American Cichlid Tank

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  • @CichlidCharmer
    @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +2

    What's your experience with aggressive fish? Am I making a mistake? Let me know what you think

    • @JellyAnimated
      @JellyAnimated Місяць тому

      I don’t think you are making a Mistake The fish you already have in the Cichlid Tank most likely will stand their ground and the Veja Will just mind it’s own business since it’s the only Veja in the tank most likely

    • @mitymac
      @mitymac Місяць тому

      my so called aggressive tanks mellower than the one with the semi aggressive cichlids .... i think they know their. in for a fight lol .... dont start none wont be none 🤣

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      @@JellyAnimated I appreciate the input!

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      @@mitymac Sounds about right. Crazy fish!

    • @davidleach4689
      @davidleach4689 Місяць тому

      Not all viejas are aggressive they are different subspecies you just have to do your research

  • @ShannonWest-p6t
    @ShannonWest-p6t Місяць тому

    That tank is going to be stunning when they get bigger!! I've kinda gone the overstocked route in my American tank and it seems to be working so far 🤞🤞🤞 I have 5 Vieja Zonatus in the tank, plus 2 Bocourti, 6 Green Terrors (will be cut down in numbers as they pair off) 2 x large Oscars, 2x small Oscars (still growing), a pair of Tomocichla (temporarily) 4 x Marbled Fenestratus (growing out atm). So far the only aggression has been a bit of chasing by 2 of the Zonatus that have paired off in one corner of the tank. They all come and greet me in the morning for feed time and are pretty chill the rest of the time. The 3 big Zonatus males seem to be the peacekeepers of the tank and bust up any skirmishes that happen. Given their size I wouldn't argue back either 🤣🤣🤣

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Sounds beautiful. The aggression may kick up a notch or ten once they mature. Keep an eye on them

  • @ARod-br2ui
    @ARod-br2ui Місяць тому +5

    Pretty cool the fact that you can actually order a particular species of fish. In all my years of keeping fish and having aquariums, never had that luxury.

    • @c4onmylip
      @c4onmylip Місяць тому

      What's your relationship with your local fish shops? If you're a regular or made buddies with the owner/managers, they'll usually hook you up I've found.

    • @ChrisS.WyoBraska
      @ChrisS.WyoBraska Місяць тому

      Everyone has that luxury these days

  • @New_Bern_Aquatics
    @New_Bern_Aquatics Місяць тому

    Hell of a fish! Can’t wait to see him huge!! 👍👍

  • @aaraadhyaandaakayaata
    @aaraadhyaandaakayaata Місяць тому +1

    1000 gallon tank when boss?

  • @tracycarter1185
    @tracycarter1185 Місяць тому +2

    Vieja’s are so beautiful and I admire Ben’s each time I see it because it looks like the one I used to have. Mine had such an aggressive personality though and it chased and bit at everyone in my 170 gal except my larger Oscar. Eventually I made the tough decision to rehome him. I really wished mine was mellow like Ben’s but NOPE! 😢

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      His is so pretty. Tough story about your vieja though. You just can never tell until you try it out. I'm hoping the tank size will help. Thanks for sharing your experience!

  • @gsellis
    @gsellis Місяць тому

    We had a Vieja bifasciata (when they were still Theraps after been called Cichlasoma for a long time). I can explain it in one sentence. My wife called him Hannibal (Lecter). No survivors.

  • @cordellmootry8326
    @cordellmootry8326 Місяць тому

    Had no idea I have one that I've grown that's about the size of my oscar now, he's mellow(at the moment) soon I'll have too up grade to a 250 I'm presently have a overstock 125 gal.(A very controversial tank)

  • @rayreggie03
    @rayreggie03 Місяць тому

    I have a bunch of vieja, they constantly fight for dominance. I got rid of my Bifasciata because it constantly got beat up, but kept fighting. My tank is much calmer now with Fenestratus, argentia, zonata, synipsilum, jag, true parrott, red terror

  • @GabrielBarron808
    @GabrielBarron808 Місяць тому +1

    need an update with the mbuna🙏🙏

  • @asantemayo1007
    @asantemayo1007 Місяць тому

    Mine was a peace keeper it was so cool to watch it break up fights but man he wasn’t to be messed with either 😭

  • @sirgerbilmacintosh9101
    @sirgerbilmacintosh9101 Місяць тому +1

    I have a powder blue socolofi that's a real bastard. He's killed quite a few of my fish over the years. Sometimes he'll randomly target a fish that he's lived with for a long time and just take him out for seemingly no reason at all. I don't understand him. He's nice looking, but I probably won't get another one of him after he's gone.

  • @JackDemp719
    @JackDemp719 Місяць тому +2

    My electric blue texas is pushin 12 inches and salvinis very easy to identify the black spot on the gill plate is 100% accurate identification of a female

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Twelve inches! My research found inaccurate info lol. So she IS a female. Good to know about the salvini.

    • @JackDemp719
      @JackDemp719 Місяць тому

      @@CichlidCharmer depends on the strain of fish on what size it will get up too genetics play a role in fish as well f1 strains generally get the biggest from my experience.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      @@JackDemp719 Ah, makes sense. Thank you!

  • @jeremymoore450
    @jeremymoore450 Місяць тому +1

    David,
    You know I am going to comment on this since I have a few of the fish you showed. The Green Terror is a gold Saum and I have one. They are a bit of slow growers so be prepared for that. They won’t get that big maybe 6 to 8 inches at max. Mine is about 5 inches or so now and he can be aggressive. He has only locked lips with my female JD and she put him in his spot. The JD does look like a female but it might be a little hard to tell at the age right now. If the JD is a female she will get around 6 to 7 inches. Mine is full grown and she is about 6 in to 7 in. The Salvini is most likely a female with all that yellow. I have one and mine is a he and he is very pretty with all the reds and blues and just colors all around. So far the Salvini hasn’t been that aggressive and he is approaching 4 inches. The severum you have is going to grow slow. Severums are really slow growers and they are a tall fish. Kind of like a discus. They need a mix of vegetables to grow in their diet. They are plant eaters and I made that mistake when I had him in my 55 gal planted tank and my green severum ate and destroyed my plants lol. They won’t get 10 to 12 inches in captivity. Maybe more like 8 inches or so. They get thick. My two Severums I have which is a green one and a gold spotted one are little water puppies. They come up to the glass and follow you around. The chocolate cichlid I don’t think will get 10 to 12 inches. They do get big but I don’t think Ben’s chocolate is that big. The chocolates are very slow growers so have patience with them but they get cuter as they get bigger. I have a female so mine is smaller but I don’t think she is done growing. I have had her for over a year. Love the fish and video and tank. I only dream of ever getting a tank this big.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Thanks for sharing your stocking with me, Jeremy. I haven't been feeding the severum enough veggies, so I will add some to the diet. I really want to put my true parrot in here,but that small JD needs to grow or he will get eaten in a hurry. At least the severum is tall, so that will help.

    • @davidleach4689
      @davidleach4689 Місяць тому +2

      @@jeremymoore450 I have a 7 inch gold saum and mine grew really fast it’s in a 165 gallon it’s a female doesn’t have a hump on its head

  • @gregp2840
    @gregp2840 11 днів тому

    This is a sick tank! I just added an Electric Blue Texas in with my Red Spot Severum and Ropefish. So far so good, but we'll see if he keeps his temperment as he grows...

  • @JoeHigh-lc4is
    @JoeHigh-lc4is Місяць тому

    Start looking at
    some bottom feeders. These guys will become aggressive. Especially that salvini and carpintis you have.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      I'm waiting for some goes I want to become available

  • @solidguintu
    @solidguintu Місяць тому

    Love Viejas, I have about 15 Viejas in my tank . Ranging from 4"- 13".

  • @JellyAnimated
    @JellyAnimated Місяць тому

    First experience I put a Red Devil Cichlid In my Cichlid Tank and that did not do good took out a couple fish and was able to take out my Armored Pleco somehow

  • @stevemartinez9075
    @stevemartinez9075 Місяць тому

    I had one and he was a stone cold killer. He killed six loaches at first that’s when I got angry, took him out and threw him in the Koi pond outside. When winter was over. I noticed there was more koi he killed them and ate them. She was about 14 inches with hump on his head. I was so furious. A gentleman in Florida offered to buy him and he would pay to ship them over there. He was the most beautiful fish I have ever had the colors on him or remarkable. He was a killer though, so I shipped them off to Florida.

  • @petercsigo3314
    @petercsigo3314 Місяць тому

    They already do the mind control. You just don't even know it. The only thing you know is that oh, I have to feed my fish, lol. 🐟 🐠 🐡

  • @timadams306
    @timadams306 17 днів тому

    My severum journey has been bad thus far. My green severum decided to chase my tetras and bala shark last night. They went in to a different tank while I figure him out. They have all been in the tank together since the start

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  17 днів тому

      My green severum totally destroyed my female angelfish over night. Ruthless.

  • @BKAqua
    @BKAqua Місяць тому

    -miguel- I mean Percy is GROWING so fast.

  • @cathyrussell9280
    @cathyrussell9280 Місяць тому

    Hi stunning, I have had a few of these and they were good , but I had fenestra (spelt wrong) vieja and that was a killer , enjoy

  • @mikech60
    @mikech60 Місяць тому

    My Vieja is over 7", very docile, hides all the time, and gets chased by a smaller sized green terror.

  • @elkorita1985
    @elkorita1985 Місяць тому

    amazing tank and fishes where did you find your gravel

  • @Rootweaver
    @Rootweaver Місяць тому +1

    Between 7:10 and 7:20 you capture your carpintas shifting into dominance/ breeding colors for to ward off the salvini. The speed of the color change is insane. I don't know if you really noticed that but it was cool to see. I have 10 Rio Hondo carpintas that are young and look forward to finding the most chill one of the group.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      That was probably two different videos I borrowed from. I don't think he shifted so fast, but you were really watching

  • @dannyaquatics
    @dannyaquatics Місяць тому

    some people might say bad things about them . I have six of the redhead Vieja synspilum and three of the black belt Vieja. Mine are very peaceful. For the last year and a half.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      Wait a minute -- you have three black belts and they are all peaceful? Are they together?

    • @dannyaquatics
      @dannyaquatics Місяць тому

      @@CichlidCharmer yes sir there in the 550 gallon aquarium. A total of 9 Vieja. 3 Salvini, 1 Jack Dempsey, 1 chocolate cichlid, 1 convict, 5 fire mouths, 3 severums, 1 silver arowana, they all have their own little spot

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      @@dannyaquatics So probably like Ben said -- lots of 'em might do the trick. I would only want to add one black belt. I'm sure he would destroy everyone. Your tank must be awesome.

  • @cahcilik-v5z
    @cahcilik-v5z Місяць тому

    I like you tank mister,

  • @TalisaAquarist
    @TalisaAquarist Місяць тому

    Your cichlids are beautiful! 😍 Have you considered adding an Oscar fish to the tank?

    • @TalisaAquarist
      @TalisaAquarist Місяць тому

      Just realized you do have an Oscar 😅 he’s gorgeous!

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks! Yes isn't he the prettiest little Oscar you've ever seen? He's the friendliest of everyone too, just like everyone always says. He's my first Oscar ever.

    • @TalisaAquarist
      @TalisaAquarist Місяць тому

      He is definitely one of the prettiest Oscar’s! 😍

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      @@TalisaAquarist Why thank you 🥰

  • @mitymac
    @mitymac Місяць тому

    hopefully ya get a mellow one 🤞

  • @michaelharris1779
    @michaelharris1779 Місяць тому

    I have a quick question, and I apologize now for going off topic, do you have a cement slab floor, or did you have to reinforce your floor.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      That's a great question. I have reinforcement where needed. I have enough joists where this tank is to support 6500 lbs.

    • @michaelharris1779
      @michaelharris1779 Місяць тому

      @CichlidCharmer If it would be possible, I would like to have further conversation with you on this subject. I will be reinforcing my floor for my 8' 240 gal tank and then my two 4' 110 gal tanks, and I am just curious about a few things. Mike

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      @@michaelharris1779 Sure, Mike. Want to send an email to cichlidcharmer@gmail.com?

  • @BikerwolFF
    @BikerwolFF Місяць тому

    I had a pair about 35 yrs ago. Lucked out that the last 2 in the shop turned out male and female...and compatible.
    Just the 2 of them in a 200 gallon producing spawn after spawn of little Queatzal cichlids.

  • @MetalFret.
    @MetalFret. Місяць тому +1

    I just got a 7"-8" electric blue Texas Cichlid about 3 weeks ago at Aqua World in Pittsburgh. when i first put him in the tank with my 7"-8" Red Shoulder Severum, The Severum instantly tried to kill the Texas! The Texas wanted nothing at all with that Severum. The severum darted super fast at the Texas repeatedly like every 4 seconds, it was BAD So, i immediately took out the Severum. So, I now have the Electric Blue Texas all by itself except a golden nugget pleco, 4 cory cats and 2 Otocinclus catfish in a 90 gallon tank.

    • @bharatnaidu4785
      @bharatnaidu4785 Місяць тому +1

      My Severum plucked the eyes out of my Geophagus !!!
      Severums are pretty mean too !!

    • @JoeHigh-lc4is
      @JoeHigh-lc4is Місяць тому +1

      There's no way you thought you could keep two 7-8" cichlids in a 90

    • @MetalFret.
      @MetalFret. Місяць тому

      @@JoeHigh-lc4is Who said I did ? You?

    • @JoeHigh-lc4is
      @JoeHigh-lc4is Місяць тому

      @@MetalFret. "'I just got a 7-8" electric blue Texas cichlid about 3 weeks ago at aqua world in Pittsburgh when I first put him in the tank with my 7-8 red severum."
      You don't know how to keep fish. Get a bigger tank and try again. 90 gallons is no where enough space.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      I had a mean severum in my community tank about four years ago. Ruthless destroyer.

  • @Funnyvideos-x3g
    @Funnyvideos-x3g Місяць тому +1

    Video so good have to watch twice can’t wait for next video

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      You watched this twice? Glutton for punishment lol. Thank you 🙏

    • @Funnyvideos-x3g
      @Funnyvideos-x3g Місяць тому

      @@CichlidCharmeryup the are my favorite fish

  • @IDMRPodcast
    @IDMRPodcast Місяць тому

    I currently keep different vieja species- melanura, bifa, argentea and regani. Some of my favorite species. Good luck, sir! I also hate the gold saum/green terror debate 😂😂

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      That sounds fantastic. Such cool fish. Regarding the green terror gold saum debate, it's funny how passionate people get about it. 😂

  • @willhopson1277
    @willhopson1277 Місяць тому

    I catch huge vieja down in South Florida all the time

  • @elvinsworld11
    @elvinsworld11 Місяць тому

    Nice

  • @VicL-fj1lx
    @VicL-fj1lx Місяць тому +1

    Half the fish in that tank shouldn’t work but like u said a 10 foot versus a 6 foot 125 is a huge difference. I’ve had one in the past for 7 years and honestly the Synspilum was very peaceful and was the tank boss/ Ref. Such an underrated fish. Great fish one i regret losing to a power outage while i was on vacation. Did great as a solo Vieja like Ben said.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Yeah we will see how it goes. I know I might have to catch and rehome -- US's to doing that with my Africans. I'd love a black belt, but oh well.

    • @VicL-fj1lx
      @VicL-fj1lx Місяць тому

      @@CichlidCharmer ohh gorgeous fish just kind of an Di€k. But yeah so far so good fingers definitely crossed and can’t wait to see the future updates.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for including me and my Vieja😀👍🏻

    • @VicL-fj1lx
      @VicL-fj1lx Місяць тому

      @@BenOchart im a huge fan of your Festae just don’t tell the Vieja lol.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      @@BenOchart It's an honor having you both on my channel!

  • @Aquaticpredatorking
    @Aquaticpredatorking Місяць тому

    You are correct Sparkle is a gold Saum but in my experience gold saums only get to 8-10 inchs.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks. If he only gets 8-10 that would be better in my book.

  • @jeremiahmarks5529
    @jeremiahmarks5529 Місяць тому

    I just recently added a 3”-4” Vieja Synspilum to my 125g. At first he was shy. I’ve had him just going on 1 month. He doesn’t bother any of the other fish but my 4” Starry Night Cichlid doesn’t like him. Those 2 are always going at it. I also have a 4-5” Rose Breasted Chanchito and he goes after all the smaller fish. In my tank I have
    Jack Dempsey 7”
    Bumblebee Oscar 7”
    Black Tiger Oscar 5”
    Chocolate Cichlid 7”
    Turquoise Green Severum 7”
    Rose Breasted Chanchito 4”
    Gold Saum 4”
    Starry Night Cichlid 4”
    Cheek Spot Cichlid 4”
    Vieja Synspilum 4”
    Mesoheros Ornatus 3”
    Bala Shark 7”
    Uaru 5”
    Panda Uaru 4”

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      I really want a starry night, but not available at this time.

  • @pollylewis9611
    @pollylewis9611 Місяць тому

    Wow, your new guy will be stunning, no you're not making a mistake, who knows how these fish turn out, they all change so much, look at my Maingano "ManMan" who went from Mr. Mellow and me hand feeding him to being the biggest A-hole I ever have had, killed 5 fish. I have no idea what to do with him, leave him in a 45gal by himself or find someone who wants an unholy terror. Wish I could super beam you my male Jack Dempsy he is kind of a shy guy that ManMan beat to a pulp so now he is in my State Penn rearranging every speck of substrate and decor. Isn't that great had Ben give you his advice and show us his wonderful fish how cool. Thanks yet again for some great advice and another look at your awesome fish!

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Man man is definitely an unholy terror. And you're right -- you just never know. Always great, funny comments when you're leaving a note. Thanks Polly!

  • @Mr_Tequila_Travels
    @Mr_Tequila_Travels Місяць тому

    Do you have an acclimation box?

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Not even sure what that is, so probably not.

    • @Mr_Tequila_Travels
      @Mr_Tequila_Travels Місяць тому

      @@CichlidCharmer it’s an acrylic box with slashes that let water move through, the salt water folks use it a lot, it lets new fish be in a tank without getting attacked. Most are DIY though, haven’t seen them sold

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      @@Mr_Tequila_Travels Oh gotcha. I call that a penalty box lol. I use a breeder box that is all mesh except for the frame.

  • @Little-creatures
    @Little-creatures Місяць тому

    They all look happy and cute now, but you’re in for a wild ride, so be prepared 😆 No, it will be ok, I promise 😅 FYI severum can be jerks too… 😬

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      Lol they ALL have that potential, don't they.

  • @HapiPETSWM
    @HapiPETSWM Місяць тому

    I hear you about your wife picking the names… it’s been a love affair turned sour at times with my wife too, sometimes easier to just agree and keep quiet lol. Great video and compilation with Ben Ochart! It’s a great back and forth and for sure asking him about vieja was very practical! Great fish and awesome video! Stay happy and healthy my friend!!!

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah I didn't realize how hurt she would be that I changed the name 😬. I was so honored to have Ben on here. It was like meeting a celebrity lol. Thank you!

  • @5660nac
    @5660nac Місяць тому

    Mines about 9 inches and a jerk. He doesn’t really do any damage to the others though just glides through the tank like a boss pushing others out of his way.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      I could probably deal with that. Good to know

  • @walfredjimenez6415
    @walfredjimenez6415 Місяць тому

    Looking forward to seeing the Vieja grow and color up! FYI Vieja is old in Spanish lol

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Thank you. I forgot what it meant from my college Spanish course 🤣

  • @hossaquatics1600
    @hossaquatics1600 Місяць тому

    Can’t wait to see your wild caught Oscar grow up

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Me too! I wonder if he will eventually become ugly like most oscars lol

  • @dadthings167
    @dadthings167 Місяць тому

    Great idea going with the chief executive's suggestion on Percy 😅

  • @lastditch727
    @lastditch727 Місяць тому

    Really enjoying your content. Percy is a good name lol.

  • @davidleach4689
    @davidleach4689 Місяць тому

    I have some they are amazing the males can be quiet massive and very aggressive my female is not aggressive at all I had to get rid of two black belt vieja they were brutal I have a red head like Ben , I also have a regani vieja which is going to be stunning and two marbled viejas they are babies,Texas cichlids can be a real problem and my 240 is actually dominated by Pac-Man my gold severum I have a starry night , two frontosa , two Oscar’s , jack Dempsey,a red severum ,two red shoulder severum , and a green severum and a flagfin tetra , and my regani vieja.

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      Lovely combination you have there. I would love a black belt, but no way lol

    • @davidleach4689
      @davidleach4689 Місяць тому

      So I took the black belt to uncle bills pet store believing that the 165 gallon tank I had it in was too small because i hadn’t received my 240 gallon tank yet but I was wrong uncle bills put the fish in their 400 gallon tank and the fish was going after fish twice and three times its size I believe you could keep them with dovi , jaguar , and Red Devils

    • @CichlidCharmer
      @CichlidCharmer  Місяць тому

      @@davidleach4689 That's one mean fish. So cool though!

  • @dmphins8349
    @dmphins8349 Місяць тому

    Lol great video