I genuinely love that, 6 months later, with the official release behind them and three times as many reviews as what was shown in this video, it still holds a 98% positive review score. Hades is a masterpiece of a game and everyone involved in the project should be immensely proud of the work they have produced.
11 months later - over 8 times the reviews, *still 98%.* And it's not going to change. The game got nearly as many reviews in the last month (Jan 21) as it had total reviews in this video, and even when counting only those recent reviews, it's still 98%. About as close to perfect as you can get on Steam!
Why wouldn't it hold a high score? People only review bomb when something is legitimately bad or when a company does something legitimately bad or changes a game post launch in a large and legitimately bad way. The reason people review bomb is because they literally have no other way of showing how they feel. They can't vote with their wallets if they already bought the game and the company does something shady. No twitter is not a valid avenue because the developers will not see 99% of the messages but if someone changes their review to negative then they will notice and know why people are upset... Plus review bombs are kept separate in steam and don't count towards the overall score of a game. They even show you a nice timeline of rveiew scores so if it was bombed you know the dates to check so you can find out why.
This has been one of my favorite series to follow on your channel. The folk behind Supergiant are so honest and down to earth, they've created some of my most cherished memories playing Transistor. Hades looks incredible, I can't wait to play it! Edit: I really teared up at the end. What Amir said really resonated with me. I just can't begin to understand what it means for all of them.
@@batwing5808 1. It was a timed exclusive if you were paying attention. 2. Don't touch epic much easier, I actually have a job and use linux for my main development. I guess it wouldn't matter much to a burger flipper like you.
@@jasiekformela4250 You can't run anything that uses EAC anymore, rip rust and rip rocketleague. Sweeny says he doesn't give a shit but other people should do the legwork to make it more viable while he strips away features and whines about no one helping. Such a shit person and shit platform.
I don't like how she portrays female characters. The men look so hot and sexy (some with cool poses) whereas the females mostly have either a pretty face or average poses and physique. Just take a look at Athena. Her frigid face and physique make her look more like an assistant to Ares than the Goddess of Wisdom.
@@xXxYOUxXxTUBERxXx Commenting on character design makes me a misogynist or gay? You must be one those dudes who send death threats to devs who have the sheer audacity to create physically attractive female characters but you'll conveniently turn a blind eye if they're males with perfectly sculpted muscles covered in nothing but a thong.
@@zedetach I'm not the one offended by the character design, you are. You wouldn't be whining about it in the first place otherwise. But hey, stay mad I guess.
@@zedetach I find it difficult to understand and follow your point. So all characters have to look sexy? Why does a god of wisdom need to look sexy I don’t get it.
Danny I’m so proud of you man. The Developing Hell series should get an award or some serious recognition for your chronicles these last two years. This particular installation hit the feels in so many ways. Keep up the excellent work noclip - love the Hades out of y’all
I really really like the insight of this series and i can say that those last 2 minutes brought tears to my eyes. The most amazing thing is that supergiant really wants to make something great for US. Shure there's bread and rent in it but seing some people being so greateful theyr effort sweat and blood to bring something we like finally resonates this well is heartwarming. Simply heartwarming.
A year on, I think the importance of this comment can't be undersold - everything about what I hear here suggests that they care about making money as a *means*, to the end of creating worthwhile, enjoyable, high-quality games. More than anything, it seems that that's the indispensible part of the equation for them. I don't know how often I could say that for another company.
@@Ashtarte3D I assume they were worried about the aftereffects of Epic Games Store exclusivity. I've seen some people refusing to buy it even after it came to Steam/GOG. But compared to the rest of the games, Hades has a bigger advantage because it's a Early Access title and it [technically] not even released yet. (Also, a really good game.)
@@AL2009man/videos The fact that they even have to worry about that is so stupid. Gamers can be such a garbage subculture. You never run into this petty toxicity and sense of entitlement with book nerds. People getting impatient with patrick rothfuss waiting for book 3 is about as bad as it gets.
Always had a feeling Supergiant were great people; you can feel it in the inspired craft of their games and in the stories they tell. I'm glad noclip gave us the opportunity get to know them a little more. What a great achievement of human spirit and hard work and perseverance this has been for Supergiant. Congratulations for the big anniversary and many more.
That is very much true. Loading up Bastion the first time gave me warm fuzzy feelings like very few games have done. It is incredible how much effort they put into it and it shows.
So happy and proud to say that years later, as of August 6th 2022, this game still holds a steam review of 98% of 180,043 reviews. Overwhelmingly positive. A king of a game.
Pretty sure they said the EGS release alone secured their next game in one of the previous episodes. I could've heard that wrong, but I think that was the gist.
They definitely did get enough money, but the problem is that Early Access shouldn't be used to raise money to develop the game. The official docs from Valve state that partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess
Josef Nemec “You should not use Early Access solely to fund development.” They said solely so you can put this money towards your game as long as u dont advertise it as a donation to be able to finish the game.
I bought it, on the strength of how good it is even in it's currently incomplete state, three times. Once for myself, twice more as gifts for a work collegue and my brother. I'm doing my part.
I don't know if it's something about relative camera positioning, or something about the folks being interviewed or the way they're saying it, but for this series, and only this series, whenever there's been one of the fixed-camera, staff-member-talks-to the-camera/viewers segments, I've found myself nodding along involuntarily. Now, specifically, I wasn't nodding to myself, in an 'oh, that makes sense' sort of way - I was nodding like it was a conversation in real life, in exactly the same way I'd nod at certain points in a statement to show the person I was talking to that I was still listening, but without interrupting. This is, as far as I can remember, the only work during which I've noticed myself doing anything of the sort. Am I just going nuts, or has anybody else had that kind of reaction?
Part of it is the angle and direct eye contact, part of it is that the parts shown are when the people interviewed seem to be at their most comfortable and confident. The interview questions aren't shown and we occasionally hear the interviewer's reaction, but overall it's a very clever way to make you feel more connected and 'in the moment'. The overarching 'storytelling' style of the documentary focuses a lot on having the studio and its members tell the viewer its processes and thoughts. The most commentary we get from the commentary creators are silent text slides, so the documentary overall feels more like we, the viewer, are in a direct conversation with the studio.
After the Fallout 76 release, Danny made a video saying that for the next videos about unreleased games he would ask the game developers to talk straight to the camera, so that way it becomes more personal and less like an ad.
Loving this series from you guys. I feel like it's one of the best doc ideas you guys have had (and that's with all the other one's being amazing too). Keep up the great work!
@@NoclipDocs when is the next entry gonna come? cant wait u guys are doing an amazing job with these docs, just binged all of them #noregrets #Supergiantftw
Absolutely wonderful video. I adore Supergiant, everyone there seems really cool. 6 years ago I wrote to Supergiant because I didn't know how to make sense of Transistor's story, and Greg himself decided to write back to me and clear some things up. I still have that email archived. Awesome team!
Supergiant games also known as the studio who constantly worry also known as who get steam front page and top 10 list and still feel kinda sad cause they wanna develop the game more also I suspect they save money byhaving the least amount of lamps in the studio :D How can anyone not love these guys, they are so kind, honest and humble, truly inspiring people!
Yall deserve GOTY. Listens to the community, gives an immersive title introducing so much to people, continues adding content and great replayability so it never goes stale. Stellar art direction and aesthetic to keep you engrossed in the world of Tartarus and lovable characters. And to think that was what $25 could get you.
Bought the game just prior to 1.0 launch, with the Pyre game. Wasn't until today in January 2021 that I learned that the copy of Pyre is in my inventory. Time to play that I guess :D
37:45 this dude seems so consumed with making the best game he can, and I just love his approach to it. Like he just wants to keep making games. He must've started out as an engineer. Passion from learning and doing.
8:52 and now its one of the best rated games on the platform, standing next to titans like factorio and portal 2. And rightfully so, the game is amazing.
I've already played through Hades until the story "end" and it's incredible, but this documentary series has really made me love this game in a whole new light.
Love their surprised reaction to the Steam reviews, that moment of internal realization that they might have just created the GOTY and their best game yet.
In my view, the reason why games receive the "overwhelmingly positive" review score is this: players form a mental model of the game when watching the trailer, reading the description, looking at screenshots, etc. Their mental model informs them how the game might be enjoyable to play, thus setting the expectations. Games with high ratings a) meet these expectations, and b) filter out the players who might not find the game enjoyable.
But what about games with bad user-reviews? When games get bad reviews, it is because the player's expectations (created by their initial mental model of the game) were not met. This is not always because the quality was bad. Instead, it could be that their initial mental model was too far off from reality. But what happens when a genuinely low quality game is able to convey an accurate mental model to potential buyers? Well... then nobody will buy the game because they can clearly see that it is bad.
You might ask, "why are you wasting so much time writing replies to no one? Don't you have better things to do?" Forcing myself to write things down and verbally elaborate ideas helps me understand them better.
This seems spot on. There are some objectively brilliant games, on company in particular comes to my mind, with dedicated fanbases, where other companies and devs look to for inspiration due to their amazing tech, quality, studio environment, gameplay, and generally are considered top of the field and doing what they do best by those in game dev, but their games tend to get scores in the 7’s because so many people go in expecting their game to be one thing and it’s another.
The bit at the end... It's amazing to have a glace at what developers go through not just development wise but setting up steam page, social media, it's not easy
The passion this dev gives off is so amazing, those last two minutes were a testament to the love and emotional connections the developers have to their creations. I wish the studio all the best, can't wait for the 1.0, gonna snatch it as soon as its officially released.
Thank you Supergiant for making me get into the roguelike genre and also to my friend who introduced me to this game. I have become a fanboy of this franchise. What a game Hades is. gonna play Bastion next.
GameSpot was bad ass when this dude was an Employee.... cool to find him here doing his own thing. I'll be signing up for Noclip as a Patron soon. NoClip is a awesome *love these documentaries*
Those last few minutes were so wholesome, man. I am so proud of Supergiant Games, what an awesome, lovely and talented staff. Much love to all of you guys, thank you for gifting me some of my favorite moments and memories in gaming!
I love how concerned these guys are about reviews and feedback from steam. as of this moment, they are overwhelmingly positive (98%) from over 15k users. The game is incredible and has so many good things for all types of people.
I saw Hades first on a stream on Twitch, instantly fell in love, and almost, *almost* got it on the Epic store despite not wanting anything to do with that platform. The day I heard it hit steam I grabbed it instantly, same with Switch. Never played any of their other games, despite hearing for years how good they are, and even if I never do I'll always come back to Hades because just *Damn* this game is too good to walk away from forever.
FINALLY got around to watching this series! I love this studio so much, and how your coverage of them has revealed what a chill, normal group of extraordinarily talented people they are. Just really nice to watch them do well. And now I can't wait to play Hades at 1.0!
I get so excited when Noclip releases a new video, and I'm never disappointed! On another note, Hades is a great game, it's great to see this sort of insight into the game.
@@Mithrie i wouldn't hold your breath :-) Especially after releasing that subscription thing. My theory is they are trying everything they can possibly think of to extract money from loyal fans as a test bed for future projects. Seeing just how far they can push it.
Great series around Supergiant, it's very special to be able to see a glimpse of behind the scenes from one of your favorite devs. Just recently watched the previous Developing Hell videos, since I wanted to play the game for myself before watching any footage whatsoever. It's amazing to see the progress and different issues during different times of the early access development and makes me appreciate the game even more.
I came to UA-cam hoping at the very least to find a few small behind the scenes clips. But OH MY GOD there has been basically an entire documentary crew filming the development of this game from start to finish! Much more here than I was expecting!
Not gonna lie? I would NEVER have bought Hades based only on the trailers and what I was seeing on steam!! It looked like a lifeless mechanics heavy grind based on the trailers alone. I bought it because the fan community made it very clear that it had a super good narrative, deep characters and gameplay that was actually fun. If it weren't for the transformative fandom fans singing it's praises, and the fanart community slipping onto my timeline/dash I would never have played it, but I utterly adore it now!! Honestly curious how much word of mouth/having a visible and active fan community did for Hades.
This series about Hades and documentary about God of War 2018 are the best videos about game development I've seen so far. Thank you so much for such an amazing content!
"for whatever reason, players may not accept it on steam, or may try to express their displeasure with the tools that steam gives you" translation "we wanna launch on steam but we're nervous about getting review bombed by toxic gamers"
These guys are all so likeable and real. They all have their egos in check and really appreciate their customers and take so much pride in their work. This series sold me on the game and studio.
What it means Amir? I was on the game since day one on the Epic Games Store because I loved every single experience you guys at Supergiant crafted for us fans since your beginning. You guys put your heart and soul in every single game and it's so obvious even without the wonderful NoClip docs that give us a small window into the creation of these gems. Thank you Supergiant for putting your all every time and thank you Noclip for giving us a glimpse at the humanity of one of my favorite developers ever.
Will (publishing director) looks like when a super handsome charismatic actor gets hired to play a shy awkward character, and I am kind of in love with him
I was really excited for Hades to come to Steam. I thought the initial trailer looked really cool, but I don't have the Epic Games Launcher, so I bought the game on Steam pretty much as soon as I could. Haven't beaten a run yet, but it's definitely a fun game.
Man I love Supergiant Games, I have a special attachment to this studio since the first ever game I bought on steam was BASTION and had so much fun playing it. I am enjoyin the HELL out of HADES rn. Noclip this has been an amazing series. Such a wonderful insight into the lives of people who have given me some of the most enjoyable times in this past decade.
Even though I don't use the Epic store & never will, I still think Supergiant's strategy of waiting to release on Steam was smart. Early Access on Steam is invaluable for roguelikes & roguelites that need a lot of balance tuning, as well as big games with large worlds & playable combos (like Baldurs Gate 3) that will inevitably have bugs. However, the Steam audience WILL RATE & REVIEW an EA game as if it's a release version, & so some games don't fare well if they launch on Steam EA too early. The expectations for Supergiant games are high now & since they hadn't done any prior rogue-style games (AFAIK?) they prob were wise to keep it off Steam until they knew the core gameplay & progression were solid. Personally I had no interest in the game initially (for some reason, I thought it would be more like Binding of Isaac, which is a great game just not to my taste). I typically prefer tactical & card games like Slay the Spire, Hearthstone, etc. but when I downloaded Hades finally when it went on sale on Switch, I absolutely loved it. I'm usually not into "button-masher" games, but this is def not that. If you can play Dead Cells, this will be up your alley
Wow that conclusion, almost crying saying stuff! They are doing a REALLY good job, at every point. This studio is a HUGE exemple for many others... I was addict to their universes but this game.. Wow. Already more than 100 tries and I'm still on it with great pleasure. Just, awesome. Keep it up guys, you rock! Also for Noclip, really good videos, this is very interesting to see all that stuff!
The end almost made me tear up :'''D ;;; Supergiant creates such incredible games--every single one has been a masterpiece--and it's SO WONDERFUL and SATISFYING to see them really, finally getting the recognition they deserve
Thank you for this entry to the saga of Hades and Supergiant games. I will definitely buy it whenever it shows up on consoles. And as an aside, it boggles the mind on just how good and consistent they have been in their ability to create stylized aesthetics which are not only different from game to game (as well as be distinctive in a sea of stylized games) but to do it successfully without straying into the realm of traditional realism.
More than a year and a half later, after the 1.0 release, the game is still at 98% positive on Steam Yes, Greg and the team, you really have something special there.
OK, that segment with Caitlin was awesome. I love to see someone get asked questions about the thing they nerd out on so hard in their own time. haha You can see her mind racing. :-D
Dammit Amir, making me choke up at the end. You guys have become my new favorite game company after watching this series and playing your games this past week. Thank you for being such good people, you truly do inspire people with your work.
Does anyone happen to know what software they are using when going over iterations of art pieces? It looks like they're using Google Drive for spreadsheets, but then there is a sort of "feed" tool that they seemingly use for sharing artwork updates, or being able to see a chronological view of art updates. I would love to know what tool this is! Also, this segment was superb, kudos to Noclip for the amazing reporting, and of course to Supergiant for their immense love of what they do!
I hope these guys never stop making games how they want to make them. They are all soooo amazing & full of love and soul. I cannot stop playing hades! Great job Supergiant! I will always be a faithful supporter of yours.
Thanks for this specific video in the series I ended up buying it on Steam. Though I love and buy all of their games, I was hoping to get it once it had its 1.0 release. Learning more about it and seeing just how praised it has been, means I just want to keep supporting the team. It's been an incredible story to watch unfold since Greg left Gamespot (let alone leave EA to join Supergiant).
Очередная живенькая и ламповая документалка от «Noclip». Занятно наблюдать за тем как копошится работа над игрой внутри студии со взглядом изнутри, а не вне. Уютненько в целом.
I genuinely love that, 6 months later, with the official release behind them and three times as many reviews as what was shown in this video, it still holds a 98% positive review score. Hades is a masterpiece of a game and everyone involved in the project should be immensely proud of the work they have produced.
11 months later - over 8 times the reviews, *still 98%.* And it's not going to change.
The game got nearly as many reviews in the last month (Jan 21) as it had total reviews in this video, and even when counting only those recent reviews, it's still 98%. About as close to perfect as you can get on Steam!
Why wouldn't it hold a high score? People only review bomb when something is legitimately bad or when a company does something legitimately bad or changes a game post launch in a large and legitimately bad way.
The reason people review bomb is because they literally have no other way of showing how they feel. They can't vote with their wallets if they already bought the game and the company does something shady.
No twitter is not a valid avenue because the developers will not see 99% of the messages but if someone changes their review to negative then they will notice and know why people are upset... Plus review bombs are kept separate in steam and don't count towards the overall score of a game. They even show you a nice timeline of rveiew scores so if it was bombed you know the dates to check so you can find out why.
Just went to check on it.... still 98%!
@@FeamT y ttyy fb tea x
still going strong at 98%! what an amazing work of art they've made, i love it very much
Amir choking up at the end really got me. I love these guys. ;;
I'm rooting so hard for them, awesome documentary.
I shed a tear, astounding doc series from bastion to hades. I almost feel ashamed for not copping hades yet
I shed a tear, astounding doc series from bastion to hades. I almost feel ashamed for not copping hades yet
Dude they can be so proud of their work. Makes me jealous :)
I come to comments to say the same thing. I am not crying, you guys are!
"but how much can entropy really care about you?"
I felt that
My first impression when I first took Chaos' boon,
"What the hell...He had some good boons, but there's a catch in it??"
Foreshadowing for Covid19? Lol
Shud have added that line to the game
This has been one of my favorite series to follow on your channel. The folk behind Supergiant are so honest and down to earth, they've created some of my most cherished memories playing Transistor. Hades looks incredible, I can't wait to play it!
Edit: I really teared up at the end. What Amir said really resonated with me. I just can't begin to understand what it means for all of them.
If they were honest they wouldn't be making their games exclusives to shittier platforms that don't care about privacy, linux and consumers.
@@CeleryMan666 1. Its not an exclusive as you can see in this video :) 2. dont game on linux
@@batwing5808 1. It was a timed exclusive if you were paying attention. 2. Don't touch epic much easier, I actually have a job and use linux for my main development. I guess it wouldn't matter much to a burger flipper like you.
@@CeleryMan666 You can run hades via wine. Lutris, 5.2 , have a fun playing.
@@jasiekformela4250 You can't run anything that uses EAC anymore, rip rust and rip rocketleague. Sweeny says he doesn't give a shit but other people should do the legwork to make it more viable while he strips away features and whines about no one helping. Such a shit person and shit platform.
Jen Zee is such an incredible artist.
I don't like how she portrays female characters. The men look so hot and sexy (some with cool poses) whereas the females mostly have either a pretty face or average poses and physique. Just take a look at Athena. Her frigid face and physique make her look more like an assistant to Ares than the Goddess of Wisdom.
@@zedetach I can't tell if you're secretly gay or just plain misogynist
@@xXxYOUxXxTUBERxXx Commenting on character design makes me a misogynist or gay? You must be one those dudes who send death threats to devs who have the sheer audacity to create physically attractive female characters but you'll conveniently turn a blind eye if they're males with perfectly sculpted muscles covered in nothing but a thong.
@@zedetach I'm not the one offended by the character design, you are. You wouldn't be whining about it in the first place otherwise. But hey, stay mad I guess.
@@zedetach I find it difficult to understand and follow your point.
So all characters have to look sexy? Why does a god of wisdom need to look sexy I don’t get it.
Danny I’m so proud of you man. The Developing Hell series should get an award or some serious recognition for your chronicles these last two years. This particular installation hit the feels in so many ways.
Keep up the excellent work noclip - love the Hades out of y’all
"... Camera stays, though?"
"... No"
This killed me.
@@Sloth337 I'm not really sure I understood what happened.
@@zombiefriend They discussed things they didn't want to be recorded.
I really really like the insight of this series and i can say that those last 2 minutes brought tears to my eyes.
The most amazing thing is that supergiant really wants to make something great for US. Shure there's bread and rent in it but seing some people being so greateful theyr effort sweat and blood to bring something we like finally resonates this well is heartwarming. Simply heartwarming.
A year on, I think the importance of this comment can't be undersold - everything about what I hear here suggests that they care about making money as a *means*, to the end of creating worthwhile, enjoyable, high-quality games. More than anything, it seems that that's the indispensible part of the equation for them. I don't know how often I could say that for another company.
"what will happen if it gets to 97"... _looks at steam_ "98% of the 13,184 user reviews for this game are positive" ;)
This was my thought when I heard "we were worried about releasing on Steam" and I was like "aren't they one of the highest rated games on Steam ever?"
@@Ashtarte3D I assume they were worried about the aftereffects of Epic Games Store exclusivity. I've seen some people refusing to buy it even after it came to Steam/GOG.
But compared to the rest of the games, Hades has a bigger advantage because it's a Early Access title and it [technically] not even released yet. (Also, a really good game.)
@@AL2009man/videos The fact that they even have to worry about that is so stupid. Gamers can be such a garbage subculture. You never run into this petty toxicity and sense of entitlement with book nerds. People getting impatient with patrick rothfuss waiting for book 3 is about as bad as it gets.
_"Gamers can be such a garbage subculture."_
*_Any_* demographic can be made to look/act like garbage with sufficient baiting and manipulation.
@@ForeverMasterless on the other hand, it happenes with movies all the time
Always had a feeling Supergiant were great people; you can feel it in the inspired craft of their games and in the stories they tell. I'm glad noclip gave us the opportunity get to know them a little more. What a great achievement of human spirit and hard work and perseverance this has been for Supergiant. Congratulations for the big anniversary and many more.
That is very much true. Loading up Bastion the first time gave me warm fuzzy feelings like very few games have done. It is incredible how much effort they put into it and it shows.
Man that closing interview. Great work guys.
"How much can entropy really care about you, ya know?" BIG. MOOD.
So happy and proud to say that years later, as of August 6th 2022, this game still holds a steam review of 98% of 180,043 reviews. Overwhelmingly positive. A king of a game.
Their Discord is great. My game wasn't launching when i bought it. Asked them in the server. Got a solution in under 20 minutes.
What did they suggest?
@@randomguy6679 it had something to do with the symbols in the system date. It was fixed 2 updates ago.
I hope the steam release helped Supergiant secure enough cash to see them through to the end of Hades as well as through their next project :)
im very sure it did, quality like this wont go unnoticed
Pretty sure they said the EGS release alone secured their next game in one of the previous episodes. I could've heard that wrong, but I think that was the gist.
They definitely did get enough money, but the problem is that Early Access shouldn't be used to raise money to develop the game. The official docs from Valve state that partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess
Josef Nemec “You should not use Early Access solely to fund development.” They said solely so you can put this money towards your game as long as u dont advertise it as a donation to be able to finish the game.
I bought it, on the strength of how good it is even in it's currently incomplete state, three times. Once for myself, twice more as gifts for a work collegue and my brother. I'm doing my part.
I don't know if it's something about relative camera positioning, or something about the folks being interviewed or the way they're saying it, but for this series, and only this series, whenever there's been one of the fixed-camera, staff-member-talks-to the-camera/viewers segments, I've found myself nodding along involuntarily. Now, specifically, I wasn't nodding to myself, in an 'oh, that makes sense' sort of way - I was nodding like it was a conversation in real life, in exactly the same way I'd nod at certain points in a statement to show the person I was talking to that I was still listening, but without interrupting. This is, as far as I can remember, the only work during which I've noticed myself doing anything of the sort.
Am I just going nuts, or has anybody else had that kind of reaction?
My guess is it’s 1. Them looking into the camera and 2. Seems like a wideish angle lens, so it feels like you’re sitting just in front of them
@@ckannan90 That's as convincing an explanation (or more) as any other one I've come up with! I'll go with that, failing any evidence to the contrary.
Part of it is the angle and direct eye contact, part of it is that the parts shown are when the people interviewed seem to be at their most comfortable and confident. The interview questions aren't shown and we occasionally hear the interviewer's reaction, but overall it's a very clever way to make you feel more connected and 'in the moment'. The overarching 'storytelling' style of the documentary focuses a lot on having the studio and its members tell the viewer its processes and thoughts. The most commentary we get from the commentary creators are silent text slides, so the documentary overall feels more like we, the viewer, are in a direct conversation with the studio.
After the Fallout 76 release, Danny made a video saying that for the next videos about unreleased games he would ask the game developers to talk straight to the camera, so that way it becomes more personal and less like an ad.
@@gm5542 Good to know, and it does rather explain a lot.
Loving this series from you guys. I feel like it's one of the best doc ideas you guys have had (and that's with all the other one's being amazing too). Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much! It's been a lot of fun to embed over this long a period. We'll be following them all the way to 1.0 so a few more episode to go yet!
@@NoclipDocs when is the next entry gonna come? cant wait u guys are doing an amazing job with these docs, just binged all of them #noregrets #Supergiantftw
11:19 looking back that very much explains Hecate
Absolutely wonderful video. I adore Supergiant, everyone there seems really cool.
6 years ago I wrote to Supergiant because I didn't know how to make sense of Transistor's story, and Greg himself decided to write back to me and clear some things up. I still have that email archived. Awesome team!
Supergiant games also known as the studio who constantly worry
also known as who get steam front page and top 10 list and still feel kinda sad cause they wanna develop the game more
also I suspect they save money byhaving the least amount of lamps in the studio :D
How can anyone not love these guys, they are so kind, honest and humble, truly inspiring people!
They abandoned their initial playerbase and never came back.
@@Xanderj89 how so
@@Xanderj89 What?
@@Xanderj89 if Supergiant's initial player base can't appreciate Hades then they don't deserve to be pandered to.
Yall deserve GOTY. Listens to the community, gives an immersive title introducing so much to people, continues adding content and great replayability so it never goes stale. Stellar art direction and aesthetic to keep you engrossed in the world of Tartarus and lovable characters.
And to think that was what $25 could get you.
Bought the game just prior to 1.0 launch, with the Pyre game. Wasn't until today in January 2021 that I learned that the copy of Pyre is in my inventory. Time to play that I guess :D
37:45 this dude seems so consumed with making the best game he can, and I just love his approach to it. Like he just wants to keep making games. He must've started out as an engineer. Passion from learning and doing.
8:52 and now its one of the best rated games on the platform, standing next to titans like factorio and portal 2. And rightfully so, the game is amazing.
I've already played through Hades until the story "end" and it's incredible, but this documentary series has really made me love this game in a whole new light.
Love their surprised reaction to the Steam reviews, that moment of internal realization that they might have just created the GOTY and their best game yet.
13:21 holy shit he's wearing a run the jewels sweatshirt
In my view, the reason why games receive the "overwhelmingly positive" review score is this: players form a mental model of the game when watching the trailer, reading the description, looking at screenshots, etc. Their mental model informs them how the game might be enjoyable to play, thus setting the expectations. Games with high ratings a) meet these expectations, and b) filter out the players who might not find the game enjoyable.
But what about games with bad user-reviews? When games get bad reviews, it is because the player's expectations (created by their initial mental model of the game) were not met. This is not always because the quality was bad. Instead, it could be that their initial mental model was too far off from reality. But what happens when a genuinely low quality game is able to convey an accurate mental model to potential buyers? Well... then nobody will buy the game because they can clearly see that it is bad.
You might ask, "why are you wasting so much time writing replies to no one? Don't you have better things to do?"
Forcing myself to write things down and verbally elaborate ideas helps me understand them better.
This seems spot on. There are some objectively brilliant games, on company in particular comes to my mind, with dedicated fanbases, where other companies and devs look to for inspiration due to their amazing tech, quality, studio environment, gameplay, and generally are considered top of the field and doing what they do best by those in game dev, but their games tend to get scores in the 7’s because so many people go in expecting their game to be one thing and it’s another.
13:51 best facial hair
Love you Darren, your music really brings these games to life for me
The bit at the end... It's amazing to have a glace at what developers go through not just development wise but setting up steam page, social media, it's not easy
The passion this dev gives off is so amazing, those last two minutes were a testament to the love and emotional connections the developers have to their creations. I wish the studio all the best, can't wait for the 1.0, gonna snatch it as soon as its officially released.
My heart is so full of this series! This was so wholesome :')
My heart beats for my two girlfriends Gaga Gaga Gaga gaga
Thank you Supergiant for making me get into the roguelike genre and also to my friend who introduced me to this game. I have become a fanboy of this franchise. What a game Hades is. gonna play Bastion next.
GameSpot was bad ass when this dude was an Employee.... cool to find him here doing his own thing. I'll be signing up for Noclip as a Patron soon. NoClip is a awesome *love these documentaries*
That closing conversation with Amir is fantastic. The exact dream, I can totally sympathize.
The woman who is a Greek mythology fan, kudos! Keep up the great work and your love for culture!
We're going to get an episode on the development of Pyre, right?
Yes, it should have originally been in Februrary even. So, soon (TM)
I wish!
Those last few minutes were so wholesome, man. I am so proud of Supergiant Games, what an awesome, lovely and talented staff. Much love to all of you guys, thank you for gifting me some of my favorite moments and memories in gaming!
I love how concerned these guys are about reviews and feedback from steam. as of this moment, they are overwhelmingly positive (98%) from over 15k users. The game is incredible and has so many good things for all types of people.
you guys need more marketing, I've only just heard of it, and it's incredible
loved bastion, hoped you guys would do something in this direction
I have such fond memories of watching Greg on Gamespot. I'm so happy he's found his place in the development world and he clearly loves it.
I saw Hades first on a stream on Twitch, instantly fell in love, and almost, *almost* got it on the Epic store despite not wanting anything to do with that platform. The day I heard it hit steam I grabbed it instantly, same with Switch.
Never played any of their other games, despite hearing for years how good they are, and even if I never do I'll always come back to Hades because just *Damn* this game is too good to walk away from forever.
FINALLY got around to watching this series! I love this studio so much, and how your coverage of them has revealed what a chill, normal group of extraordinarily talented people they are. Just really nice to watch them do well. And now I can't wait to play Hades at 1.0!
YES! FINALLY MORE DEVELOPING HELL!
Nearly nine months after your Steam launch you now have 98% of positive reviews. You are really good guys that's all
I get so excited when Noclip releases a new video, and I'm never disappointed! On another note, Hades is a great game, it's great to see this sort of insight into the game.
How did you enjoy the Fallout 76 travesty?
@@hazy33 It was fun to observe. Hopefully, Bethesda will learn from their lesson.
@@Mithrie i wouldn't hold your breath :-) Especially after releasing that subscription thing. My theory is they are trying everything they can possibly think of to extract money from loyal fans as a test bed for future projects. Seeing just how far they can push it.
@@hazy33 For sure, it's only hoped, there are so many other game companies that do it better that I focus on.
Watching this video series for the second time. It's so inspiring.
Hades is still at 98% review score overall, with 220k reviews
Great series around Supergiant, it's very special to be able to see a glimpse of behind the scenes from one of your favorite devs.
Just recently watched the previous Developing Hell videos, since I wanted to play the game for myself before watching any footage whatsoever. It's amazing to see the progress and different issues during different times of the early access development and makes me appreciate the game even more.
I came to UA-cam hoping at the very least to find a few small behind the scenes clips. But OH MY GOD there has been basically an entire documentary crew filming the development of this game from start to finish! Much more here than I was expecting!
Not gonna lie? I would NEVER have bought Hades based only on the trailers and what I was seeing on steam!! It looked like a lifeless mechanics heavy grind based on the trailers alone.
I bought it because the fan community made it very clear that it had a super good narrative, deep characters and gameplay that was actually fun. If it weren't for the transformative fandom fans singing it's praises, and the fanart community slipping onto my timeline/dash I would never have played it, but I utterly adore it now!!
Honestly curious how much word of mouth/having a visible and active fan community did for Hades.
This series about Hades and documentary about God of War 2018 are the best videos about game development I've seen so far. Thank you so much for such an amazing content!
It is currently 98% Overwhelmingly Positive of more than 44000 reviews by now.
"for whatever reason, players may not accept it on steam, or may try to express their displeasure with the tools that steam gives you"
translation
"we wanna launch on steam but we're nervous about getting review bombed by toxic gamers"
More or less yh
These guys are all so likeable and real. They all have their egos in check and really appreciate their customers and take so much pride in their work. This series sold me on the game and studio.
06:19 i kind thought that, when i saw it announced. "Hm idk thats kind of weird for them". Surprise: it's phenomenal. I wished TB was alive to see it.
5:00 Holy cable management
I am so happy Noclip partnered with super giant to make these in tandem with the development of the game. Such a cool experience to be a part of.
What it means Amir? I was on the game since day one on the Epic Games Store because I loved every single experience you guys at Supergiant crafted for us fans since your beginning. You guys put your heart and soul in every single game and it's so obvious even without the wonderful NoClip docs that give us a small window into the creation of these gems. Thank you Supergiant for putting your all every time and thank you Noclip for giving us a glimpse at the humanity of one of my favorite developers ever.
Will (publishing director) looks like when a super handsome charismatic actor gets hired to play a shy awkward character, and I am kind of in love with him
My heart! That ending. I'm so happy for these guys!
I was really excited for Hades to come to Steam. I thought the initial trailer looked really cool, but I don't have the Epic Games Launcher, so I bought the game on Steam pretty much as soon as I could. Haven't beaten a run yet, but it's definitely a fun game.
Man I love Supergiant Games, I have a special attachment to this studio since the first ever game I bought on steam was BASTION and had so much fun playing it. I am enjoyin the HELL out of HADES rn. Noclip this has been an amazing series. Such a wonderful insight into the lives of people who have given me some of the most enjoyable times in this past decade.
Even though I don't use the Epic store & never will, I still think Supergiant's strategy of waiting to release on Steam was smart. Early Access on Steam is invaluable for roguelikes & roguelites that need a lot of balance tuning, as well as big games with large worlds & playable combos (like Baldurs Gate 3) that will inevitably have bugs. However, the Steam audience WILL RATE & REVIEW an EA game as if it's a release version, & so some games don't fare well if they launch on Steam EA too early. The expectations for Supergiant games are high now & since they hadn't done any prior rogue-style games (AFAIK?) they prob were wise to keep it off Steam until they knew the core gameplay & progression were solid.
Personally I had no interest in the game initially (for some reason, I thought it would be more like Binding of Isaac, which is a great game just not to my taste). I typically prefer tactical & card games like Slay the Spire, Hearthstone, etc. but when I downloaded Hades finally when it went on sale on Switch, I absolutely loved it. I'm usually not into "button-masher" games, but this is def not that. If you can play Dead Cells, this will be up your alley
Wow that conclusion, almost crying saying stuff! They are doing a REALLY good job, at every point. This studio is a HUGE exemple for many others... I was addict to their universes but this game.. Wow. Already more than 100 tries and I'm still on it with great pleasure. Just, awesome. Keep it up guys, you rock!
Also for Noclip, really good videos, this is very interesting to see all that stuff!
The end almost made me tear up :'''D ;;; Supergiant creates such incredible games--every single one has been a masterpiece--and it's SO WONDERFUL and SATISFYING to see them really, finally getting the recognition they deserve
Thank you for this entry to the saga of Hades and Supergiant games. I will definitely buy it whenever it shows up on consoles.
And as an aside, it boggles the mind on just how good and consistent they have been in their ability to create stylized aesthetics which are not only different from game to game (as well as be distinctive in a sea of stylized games) but to do it successfully without straying into the realm of traditional realism.
15:27 "I'm a writer and designer and Supergiant." Haha :).
Love seeing Amir wear a Run the Jewels hoodie. That really makes me love the whole studio even more.
More than a year and a half later, after the 1.0 release, the game is still at 98% positive on Steam
Yes, Greg and the team, you really have something special there.
The end gave me the feels. I love this series so much. Every game they make is one of my absolute favorites.
One of my favorite reviewer in early Gamespot years (2000) was Greg Kasavin. I think he reviewed the first 2 Max Payne on GS.
OK, that segment with Caitlin was awesome. I love to see someone get asked questions about the thing they nerd out on so hard in their own time. haha You can see her mind racing. :-D
Dammit Amir, making me choke up at the end. You guys have become my new favorite game company after watching this series and playing your games this past week. Thank you for being such good people, you truly do inspire people with your work.
holy crap greg kasavin?! old school gamespot
13:05 that Run the Jewels hoodie is cool
A bit late to the party, but this documentary is sooo great in its storytelling and insights, love it all the way!
Does anyone happen to know what software they are using when going over iterations of art pieces? It looks like they're using Google Drive for spreadsheets, but then there is a sort of "feed" tool that they seemingly use for sharing artwork updates, or being able to see a chronological view of art updates. I would love to know what tool this is!
Also, this segment was superb, kudos to Noclip for the amazing reporting, and of course to Supergiant for their immense love of what they do!
easily one of the best rogue likes I've ever played, thank you super giant.
Thèse docs convinced me to go and try the Supergiants games. Can't wait to play Hades
I hope these guys never stop making games how they want to make them. They are all soooo amazing & full of love and soul. I cannot stop playing hades! Great job Supergiant! I will always be a faithful supporter of yours.
Thanks for this specific video in the series I ended up buying it on Steam. Though I love and buy all of their games, I was hoping to get it once it had its 1.0 release. Learning more about it and seeing just how praised it has been, means I just want to keep supporting the team. It's been an incredible story to watch unfold since Greg left Gamespot (let alone leave EA to join Supergiant).
damn i thought we weren't getting more of thee its been so long. cool.
I really love rewatching this series, it's so wholesome and comforting even. thank you so much for this!
It's nice these guys developed hell instead experiencing development hell
NEW RULE game dev docs are not allowed to make you tear up I'm at WORK people are LOOKING
Очередная живенькая и ламповая документалка от «Noclip». Занятно наблюдать за тем как копошится работа над игрой внутри студии со взглядом изнутри, а не вне. Уютненько в целом.
Let's gooooo!! I was just rewatching the previous Hades noClip Documentaries, last night.
hades is currently sitting at a 98% positive review score for ALL reviews on steam
And now hades 2 launched with over 100k concurrent players
launch is coming up will there be more of this
What a incredible series No Clip! Hades journey from development to launch has been quite long, the game is absolutely amazing.
guess we got Nemesis after all!
here's hoping for Iris! RAINBOWS 🌈
13:16 my guy is rocking the RTJ hoodie !!!
13:35 this is so important to me. Games tend to catch me if they let me know what is they are very fast.
This feels like the same video as the first Hades video
Really fitting that as amir is talking about launching on steam you playe the shop music
11:49 Close up of Stumptown cold brew hell yeah
This is one of my favorite developers and this series is making me care even more for the games, cheers and keep it up!
Imagine..... Hades Physical release on Nintendo Switch :)))))))
I'll buy it again even if I have to do it all over again from the start
34:47
No, I don't cry, it's just tears in my eyes ; _ ;