Why are Mormons critical to the US Army?
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or "Mormons" is a sect of Christianity whose believes include spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ across the world. This results in missionary work to many nations during which time the missionaries learn the language, culture and slang of these host nations.
The church is headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah and the 300th Military Intelligence Brigade of the Utah National Guard is headquartered right down the road in Draper, UT.
This synergy between LDS members and the U.S. Army makes for highly prized and specialized human intelligence collectors and linguists.
References:
300th Military Intelligence Brigade (Ling)
www.inscom.army.mil/msc/300MI...
Utah Guard soldiers bring their language skills to a new battlefront - as contact tracers in war against coronavirus
www.sltrib.com/news/2020/04/2...
Utah site translates the world
www.deseret.com/2001/10/4/196...
Inside the Missionary Training Center: Boot camp for Mormons
archive.sltrib.com/article.ph...
THE WORD IS OUT: LINGUISTICS BRIGADE OF NATIONAL GUARD WILL RESIDE IN DRAPER
www.deseret.com/1988/4/10/187...
LSD- When should I serve?
www.churchofjesuschrist.org/t...
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or "Mormons" is a sect of Christianity whose believes include spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ across the world. This results in missionary work to many nations during which time the missionaries learn the language, culture and slang of these host nations.
The church is headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah and the 300th Military Intelligence Brigade of the Utah National Guard is headquartered right down the road in Draper, UT.
This synergy between LDS members and the U.S. Army makes for highly prized and specialized human intelligence collectors and linguists.
References:
300th Military Intelligence Brigade (Ling)
www.inscom.army.mil/msc/300MIB.aspx
Utah Guard soldiers bring their language skills to a new battlefront - as contact tracers in war against coronavirus
www.sltrib.com/news/2020/04/27/utah-guard-soldiers-bring/
Utah site translates the world
www.deseret.com/2001/10/4/19609863/utah-site-translates-the-world
Inside the Missionary Training Center: Boot camp for Mormons
archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=56556202&itype=CMSID
THE WORD IS OUT: LINGUISTICS BRIGADE OF NATIONAL GUARD WILL RESIDE IN DRAPER
www.deseret.com/1988/4/10/18763003/the-word-is-out-linguistics-brigade-of-national-guard-will-reside-in-draper
LSD- When should I serve?
www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/missionary-preparation/when-should-i-serve?lang=eng
My Dad worked there
Watch Pine Gap it’s good
I heard it said that the Roman Empire still exists in the form of Catholic Christianity. 2,000 years and still going.
If we throw in Geo-politics and Intelligence then it goes someway to explain the lack of investigations into abuses within churches and religions. They serve a "higher purpose", global power.
On a lighter note, have you seen The Book Of Mormon? I saw it and enjoyed it and the Mormons come across in a positive way. It didn't mention they were secret agents! :-)
Look up Kolob...those mormons are crazy
Hm, oh I misread that as why are Mormons critical of. The name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Because we believe in Christ and strive to be worthy to bear his name and live as witnesses of Christ.
I remember I visited Salt Lake City a couple years ago and me and my mom walked into a bookstore. We were speaking Spanish and this dude that worked there walked up to us and started talking to us in perfect Spanish and told us he learned it all on his mission to Peru.
Sounds like a side quest
You can find a lot more than just Spanish. Being multilingual in Utah is virtually no different while being multilingual in other states pretty much guarantees a job.
@@PeakFilmClipz
Went on a mission myself. It was a very involved side quest. I enjoyed the experience.
@@ammonjohnson5592 me too. San Diego spanish side quest. Ammon is my favorite BOM hero.
When my dad served his mission he met the girl of his dreams and soon after they got married
Oh, I thought you meant critical as in criticizing the US Army, that somehow made more sense in my mind at first, but I stand corrected.
Mormons are far different than the Westboro Baptist church people.
I thought this too, took me a while to realise 😂
Critical TO vs critical OF
I too read it as critical of not critical to
Same
I'm ex-LDS, and active duty Air Force. I no longer practice and have no plans to ever go back for purely personal reasons. But I can confirm that the LDS church is one of if not the single most logistically impressive organizations of all time. Everything from language training to humanitarian aid they have down to a perfected science. They preform what are effectively military personnel recalls BETTER than the actual military. To explain briefly, in the event of some contingency, i.e. WW3 breaks out, military units have rosters of personnel laid out by their command structure. The base commander directs unit commanders to recall troops for action, they disseminate that instruction to the various section supervisors within their unit, the section leads disseminate to supervisors, who call individual troops, or direct those troops to call each other in a loop so the last troop in the loop calls the supervisor to confirm everyone before them was also notified. In the event of a natural disaster, LDS members are assigned to check in on other members using extenisve and careful record keeping to look after each other in a giant network, and the instant any one of them notice another needs help, they can quickly coordinate with local church leadership to deploy locally maintained humanitarian aid resources to look after that member within hours or even minutes of an incident, including anything from food and water purification to hardware like chainsaws for damage control to shelters. Their church building are ALL built with disaster ratings of all kinds in mind. Most places are zoned for specific local hazards, buildings are required to have more earthquake protection in California and tornado protection in Oklahoma, for example. LDS church buildings max out those measures across the board so they can be used as staging grounds for any disaster anywhere, if theres an earthquake in Kansas and a tornado in Colorado, LDS churches are built to withstand all but direct impacts. FEMA has frequently come to rely on LDS humanitarian aid efforts because they are so fucking fast and efficient with first response that clean up is often well under way or even done depending on severity of the incident by the time FEMA can even show up, and are able to collect a priority list and get a handle on what needs to be done, preforming what is effectively near instant reconnaissance and feedback systems.
They've developed what is widely recognized as the single most effective language teaching course on Earth, they can establish basic, functional fluency in anyone and in any language, and even multiple in some cases in as little as a few weeks, and rarely more than three months, including notoriously complex languages like Arabic and Mandarin, which will military linguistic courses will take as long as 18 months to establish a satisfactory degree of proficiency.
Say what you will about religion and spirituality but it cannot be denied Mormons are damn good when it comes to managing people. It's the one thing I kinda miss about the church.
Thanks so much! Yeah my brother recently left the church, but he still hold a lot of respect for it. Guess you don’t have to believe in it to see the efficiency!
I'm not a member of the church but man is that impressive.
@Adrian I think you’re describing a different church. Space Jesus? I’m a lifetime member of the church and I haven’t heard of such a thing.
@Adrian didn't see a "no homo" FUCKIN GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! LMAO Obligatory jokes aside, I don't follow Christianity in any form. I don't disagree with the tenets, I disagree with the organization. I think it is presumptuous bordering on sacrilegious for mankind to interpret the will of God in behalf of others. I believe that a perfect creator logically would have made us to perfectly fulfill a purpose as we are. We know right from wrong, I don't need scriptures or clergy to tell me that, and my relationship with my creator is mine, no one has the right to dictate it to me. I don't believe that if there is an afterlife, our admission to it is predicated on our adherence to arbitrary rules, and I don't believe a infinite omnipotent creator has a need for them in the first place. I think the only way we can truly "commune" with God is through Creation, I think our purpose is hidden in reality itself and we were given our senses of curiosity and wonder and awe to motivate us to pursue those secrets. I think we're meant to learn about God through his creations, not from other people. I think our understanding and manipulation of the physical world around us is the closest we can be to godliness, and that ensuring our instinctual needs are met should fall in line with our morals. We are given empathy because we are meant to be kind. We delight in the joy of our loved ones and love itself because it is good and right. We can feel pain and sickness and exhaustion because we were not meant to engage in certain activities or partake in certain substances, and I think society as a whole is, or at least should be, fundamentally built around those feelings. Having spent a great deal of time meditating on these feelings and the relationships of my fellow man I think that once we have met our basic needs, only then can we develop spiritually, I personally have started to feel a desire to engage in a more ascetic lifestyle because I no longer value the more simple pleasures of life, and instead seek a higher understanding of the things and people around me. But i dont think that way of life is for everyone, and so I think codified doctrine enforcing any of that for anyone is actually harmful to personal growth. I think it is an induvidual process, some people aren't meant to achieve as much or are meant to achieve a much greater understanding than others. I think being mostly self sufficient and happy is more than enough for anyone on average, a good leader is nothing without followers. We all need to operate on different levels of understanding and spirituality, and I think that's hardwired into each individuals, and that it is not realistically possible for us to codify a doctrine that encompasses that more efficiently that just peacefully coexisting would.
I have a friend whom is ex lds. he moved. did not tell anyone from the church. withing litteral minutes of arriving at his new home on the other side of US a priest was at his door to discuss the local Mormon church etc. My friend also said that they are the best Intel agency in the US.
I was in LA one day and was fucking speechless when I saw a blonde blue eyed Mormon speaking Mandarin to locals with his church sign and then when I walked past he spoke to me in fluent Spanish. Respect their devotion
I've lived with a Mormon family. They took in my family when we were homeless. I appreciate what they did but it drove me crazy.
Explain please?
Try growing up in a Mormon family as a bastard child lolol wanna talk about driven crazy..I got that topic lol
How exactly did they drive you crazy?
@@frederickoftheartic2209 their crazy rules. Scathing racism, misogyny, elitism, worshipping a child rapist as their esteemed first prophet. I could go on
What about living with them drove you crazy?
14 Years of AD Service.
Every LDS Trooper I’ve ever met was above average.
Not true I've met some that where 5'4
@@brandanberg1716 they’re human intelligence, not infantry. That’s a dumb comment
Every LSD Trooper I met were way higher than average.
@@nolanmcevoy2547 it's a joke about hight you fool get over yourself
@@ironbutterflyrusted some them boys do be 6'6
Love my LDS brothers. We met in Washington. Became close in Missouri and have been brothers ever since Iraq. Army gave me purpose and direction.
I don't love the LDS ideology, Christian sect, or Joseph Smith.
I returned from a mission in Russia myself, which has lead my interest and deep heartfelt care for this issue. I love the Russian people with all my heart, but sometimes loving a people doesn’t mean loving their state, even when those you love support said state.
I appreciate the love, Ryan.
Russians are the good guys, America fight for sodomy and international bankers.
Kudos to you for spreading the word. Glad you made it back safe
So you’re going to pretend that you’re completely fluent in Russian? Ok then, vacationary
@@Knowledgeefficient Yeah and what are you doing besides sitting in your moms basement b*tching all day at other people who are doing something useful with their lives? Ya know, unlike you. You basement dwellers are something else 🙄
@@Knowledgeefficient What do you mean? I never said that I'm completely fluent in Russian. In fact, I'm rather upset at how my abilities with Russian keep deteriorating as more time goes by.
Vacationary? It wasn't a vacation. I really don't understand the hostility here.
You forgot one vital aspect! Any unit with a Mormon amongst there ranks has an automatic DD, cut down on DUI's in my unit once we got our first Mormon. 🤣🤣
Ha!!! This is 100% true, I've been the DD every time we are out as a unit.
Make that any friend group or work meet up lol. The amount of civilian times I'd DD in college, charged them gas money lol.
What does DD stand for again?
@@bleaxh1924 I think designated driver
@@weirdlanguageguy Oh makes sense now, thanks for the answer.
I had the honor of training these outstanding Soldiers in small boat operations in Coronado California and the Great Salt Lake. Most if not all had completed one to multiple LDS/Mormon and Special Forces missions overseas. These Soldiers are some of the smartest people I have ever met. Most spoke at least spoke one or more languages with a secondary education. These soldiers kept up with my 19 year old Marines s driving and schlepping rubber boats all over the ocean and beaches of NAB Coronado, San Clemente Island, and Camp Pedleton. Again it was a great honor privilege to serve with these Men. De oppresso liber, Semper Fidelis!
What a wonderful story!
So a person's intellect equals knowing(up to what degree?) a foreigner language or more than one.
Also, a quick guide: putting a few words from ~1400 years as a dead language - does not earns you any points. I am sorry but classical Latin does not equal "cool".
It's makes you looking funny for other people who don't have nationally developed piety towards the past, such as the Roman Eagle on the US-of-A's state symbolism.
@@worldoftancraft you know that semper fidelis is the motto of the United States Marine Corps, right? So it wouldn't take much intelligence to realize the other one is probably the motto of the other unit.
@@paulheitkemper1559 yes. Also it was a trolling combined with the take on the megavalues.
Inserting the words or even phrases from the unknown to 98%+ of the population language - is not a good tone. Especially if your «knowledge» is being measured by a few times more than the phrase.
Ah, English! Was a normal, solid german/norse language before become the dumpsite of French/Latin random words.
@@worldoftancraft Why are you even here? You have offered nothing remotely productive or useful.
And they have a long history with the army, the Mormon Battalion was the only religious unit in US army, they served during the American-Mexican war
Irish served with the Mexican army
As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I was suprised scrolling through videos to see Latter-day Saint stuff on your channel! I enjoy your work.
They roll deep, especially in the alphabet agencies: squeeky clean records for a clearance and indepth knowledge of some pretty obscure languages and cultures from missions help too.
Throughout the US government they are found, and I've always wondered how easily they could decapitate the USG or even just be part of a coup or two.
Basically a demographic that has cultural and linguist skills and won't be communist lol
They also don't use alcohol or drugs, so they can be very trusted.
@@halo3soap114 it's funny as I know some people say the opposite that you can't trust someone unless you see them blasted because of the while "truth comes out when drunk" thing
@@halo3soap114 literally the opposite of why not to trust them.
They actually even looked into the missionary training center (MTC) for ways to teach a second language as well. Something about being able to get someone speaking another language in 9-12 weeks was a draw for them I guess.
Ummmm no... DLI and the MTC teach language in fundamentally different ways (I've been to both) with the MTC teaching almost entirely basic speaking, and DLI teaching reading, writing, listening (not conversational) and speaking. Soldiers leave DLI speaking and reading their target language at a collegiate level.
@@jisezer In no way is that in contradiction to what OP said r/iamverysmart.
LDS ultimately learn the most via immersion in their target communities.
@@jisezer you think the MTC didn't help you? I only speak three language, the military wasn't interested in. My brother spoke 5 before re enlisting to learn a 6th the military was interested in. He graduated top of his class until a few months later a national from the country the language school was for was given that recognition. Pissed my brother off his entire time in the military. He's learned 2 more languages since retiring.
Ehh honestly I think the MTC is overrated in its ability to teach languages. I was there 12 weeks. Nobody should be in the MTC more than a week. You learn to speak in the field.
I served with a friend who was hesitant to tell he was lds, but I have absolutely nothing bad to say about him or anyone else who has good in their heart. Hope he is well.
Sometime we don’t tell people we are lds It’s cause us of the lds faith have a history of persecution everything from name calling to homes being burned and so much more. Some of which still happens today around the world. so rather than cause discoursed we just be our happy, jolly, old selves.
Finally someone who isn’t dissing us saints and is actually stating fact and not bringing up some stupid story about us
bUt mUh mAgIc uNdErWeAr
Saying you support the US military is a dis I'm sorry
I grew up in central phx as a broke Mexican kid, the only people who were kind in the area were the elderly latinas and the Mormons. I ended up having 3 mormon best friends growing up, they took me in, fed and clothed me with no questions asked. I love how family oriented they are, I would spend 90% of my childhood at their houses. Always got love for Mormons
That's really heart-warming. Thanks for sharing.
I’m lds and we are taught to be kind to everyone regardless of race, nationality, or religion under the first and second great commandments of all Christian’s love which are love thy god and love thy neighbor. This is because our people and religion was persecuted. I’m Talking everything from name calling to being banned from certain jobs and having homes burned and men tarred and feathered (some of which still happens in the world). If we are hateful towards any group of people we are hypocrites and un Christlike.
CIA, DIA is full of them. They work hard and come from a culture of rule following.
A good soldier doesn't question authority
The fact that they got the slang down pat so goddamn quickly is fucking mindblowing, like holy hell
I went to the LDS service on Sunday all through OSUT at Sand Hill because it was a 3 hour service and they would let you sleep for an hour of it. I also served with a lot of Mormons, and they were always really cool dudes.
Funny. I used to go to Jewish services because they had cakes and pastries for Oneg.
Church sleep is the best sleep
I’m guessing they let you sleep during sacrament meeting? 😂
Literally did not expect to see this scrolling through UA-cam while working at BYU
Members love any chance to use their mission language since usually nobody else talks it around them. This is would be a dream for most!
Returned LDS missionary here as well. We are all over the world but those of us here in the United States are especially proud to be American.
And you’re not at all embarrassed to spread the lies of a documented conman?
I got stuck in Utah once and my opinion of them did drip venom. You managed to change that opinion in less than a minute. Kudos.
Kudos to you for being able to take in new information and change your opinion. That's how the world can become more peaceful imo
The Utah ones tend to not know any better so you often have to take their criticism as a fat grain of salt. I’m from Colombia but raised in places like California and Iowa so I understand that we can be assholes 😂
@@cucadefrijoles735 yeah some of people who live their whole life in the church and Utah especially live in a bubble and Mormon royalty don’t know how to talk to people without saying some stupid crap and then they get even more offended because your opinion and life was not ther picture perfect life. Btw I am lds
Returned missionary for the church, grateful for your clarification on calling us LDS and also not throwing us in with the crazy offshoots
Not to start a flame war, but how much of a moral high-ground do you have when mainstream LDS are sitting on a Roman Catholic Church-sized child-sex-abuse scandal?
You're not alone, of course - just about every Evangelical sect has put themselves in the same position - but it does make your rapid judgement of others a revelation of a rather-questionable level of self-awareness.
@@michaelccozens what scandal? I'd like to see some sources for that.
@@demonbright7292 you think these scandals aren't basically self evident at this point? You are a sheep and a blind follower. Nobody try to get this dude to listen to reason
@@michaelccozens I’m not familiar with the scandal you are talking about, but I will definitely look into it. As far as my crazy offshoot comment, I am specifically talking about FLDS. Since that one documentary thing came out forever ago a lot of people think that the LDS church and the FLDS are the same thing, when they very much are not.
@@jams9795 Theres been a lot of bishops caught with sexual abuse cases and the church often pays out to keep it hush hush. The biggest one I know of is the Joseph Bishop where he raped sisters in the basement of the mtc where the victims could accurately define the off limits part of the mtc passing forensic interviews. The sad part is that the church knew about it and instead of giving him over to authorities they did nothing.
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Not to mention we can pass a background and drug/alcohol test in high percentages. We also believe we live on the promised land and the US Constitution is inspired by God. In the Book of Mormon Captain Moroni teaches about liberty. In the western United States especially Utah a lot of our ancestors were persecuted pioneers and came here for freedom of religion and liberty. The importance of freedom is passed down through family stores.
This is very true and it goes deeper than you think. As a Foreman Mormon I can tell can tell you that when I was a kid I had so many Sunday school teachers and scoutmasters who were all in the intelligence service.
I had a seminary teacher who was in The Secret Service another that was in the NSA.
China persecuting religious minorities lookin at this video like: 👀
China be like : Write that down
Is it funny we have the same profile pic. 🤣
I mean where does justification for most of terroristic attacks stem from?
thats right different flavors of space cookies
You want a more fair and balanced take on it? What do most religions get behind, politically? Thats right, fascism shrouded under Jesus' ballsack
We have the fucking internet, we are aware morally exists without space cookie, yet space cookie is still being spread around.
Its so frustrating that theists get to use all these wonderful toys of the future when they bitch and moan about EVERY SINGLE NEW TECHNOLOGY when they're coming out.
I.e. Trains are going to kill wymin going so fast
They're ignorant atheists communists believe makes them what they are.
Turns out, diversity is valuable
I'm a member of the church and didn't know this! Thanks for sharing. Cool fact the president of the church, Russel M. Nelson, served in the army medical corps. In the Korean war.
He's also known to be a proficient Mandarin speaker as a second language
I'm lds senior citizen living on social security fixed income. They make sure I am ok by calling me, texts, inviting me to their homes. They care for me better than my own family. They are super fast getting to me in case I am in some kind of need. I am very happy to be lds. I never feel alone.
This is the most fascinating thing you have reported so far
Thank you for the kind words! I’m a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Love your channel, and it was a nice surprise to have a shoutout. Keep up the awesome work.
Well of course you are, you’re a Neff, lol. Just like a Smoot, or a Hansen, or a Young. Ha! Your name gives it away!
The only Americans I've ever met in my life were Mormons and gotta admit they were pretty nice people
That’s how they get you lol
Where are you from?
@@romuelknight1434 the UK
@@DanS044 Ngl they nearly did i was fairly young at the time and my stepdad was a believer so they came round pretty often they were generally really nice people.
But I was always was more of a man of science so I was sceptical of all religious stuff like if you believed in something fair enough I wasn't gonna say anything but I definitely wouldn't have believed it myself unless you had science backing it up but I did decide to at least entertain the possibility at the time and see what their beliefs were like I got took to church with my stepdad and frequented with him for a year or so.
I never really truly believed but I liked to entertain the idea of it.
then my stepdad split with my mum i grew up lost a lot of family members and just stopped entertaining the idea of a higher power all together once again, because In my mind even if there was one they'd be rather sadistic for making people go through half the stuff they go through in life especially when good honest people are taken way too young.
@@DanS044 also sorry for the whole life story I just thought I'd give you my 2 cents on religion as a whole and my experience with it
Plus they’re really cool and friendly.
I can confirm as a member of the lds church that we strongly support the country and the armed forces
We had tons of Mormons in my Infantry unit at Fort Drum, the only noticeable thing was they didn't drink and would all hang out together and try to get us to hang out and it was awkward showing up with a 12 pack and drinking by yourself in a corner, happened to me a couple of times because they would never tell you it was a large group of Mormons
My dad actually did that for a while, I recognize the patch. As an LDS guy myself its really nice to hear something factual about our faith (especially after trying to watch that 'Under The Banner of Heaven' nonsense.)
I'm sorry that UTBoH hurt you lol, especially since it's realistic fiction that took many creative liberties. It never claimed to be fact, rather being based on a real murder. Even though you call it nonsense though, much (not all) of it's historical recounting is factual. Early Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints were antagonized for very real crimes, because early on, they were a violent people. Joseph Smith historically shot first, both metaphorically and literally. He wasn't tarred and feathered for being a prophet, he was tarred and feathered for sending men on missions and marrying their wives, many underage (first hand accounts from Fanny Alger and others), and many before he even had the revelation of polygamy. Joseph Smith was ultimately killed in self defense, considering he was a fugitive who escaped jail (in jail for commanding the saints to burn down a printing press) and when the mob tried to take him back proceeded to shoot his pistol through the door, causing the mob to fire back. Mormons were ostracized for a reason, and that reason is because Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and other early leaders weaponized them for self interest. Early mormons were kicked out of NY and Illinois for, among other things, stealing resources, arson, and more. Later in Utah, the Mountain Meadows Massacre was done entirely by Mormon forces on innocent, non-affiliated people while blaming it on the Paiutes. There are even journal entries of the early saints in Utah talking about how if someone planned to leave Utah when SLC was being settled, it wasn't uncommon to find their body a few miles into their trek with a gunshot wound.
Even in recent history, the church has been needlessly racist, sexist, and homophobic, with many of the "refuted teachings" being buried a little bit but still ultimately written as doctrine. The church hasn't even apologized for many of these teachings, including the waiting until 1978 to waive the priesthood ban on black people despite many other religions being more inclusive much sooner. Most recently, the blatantly racist and homophobic statements of Brad Wilcox not even 2 years ago still have not been apologized for (besides Brad apologizing to the church for embarrassing them instead of apologizing to the people he hurt with his statements).
The singular largest reason that members of the church are ostracized today still, like they have been since the organization's conception, is that the people of the church historically and still today have been an extremely intolerant and intolerable people. Other faiths are not ostracized to the same degree at all because historically (aside from Catholicism, and a few others), the church has been leagues more violent towards and objectifying of other people than most other sects of Christianity. If the church apologized for its past (which it hasn't, for any of it), and the leaders took it upon themselves to be honest and fair to all of the members of it's congregation, there wouldn't be this problem. The church's biggest enemy is itself. The public's eye only sees what the church reveals, and what it reveals is an extremely nonsensical, intolerant, and intolerable people. People still believe the members practice polygamy, because the sexist teachings still reflect a people who would probably do it. (Also polygamy is still canonically practiced in heaven anyway so they aren't entirely wrong either). The church's public perception has only been destroyed by itself. no outsiders came in and mucked up the history, or talked so poorly that an entire faith is condemned. It is bluntly the church historically and presently being at best, morally grey and unorthodox with it's restrictions on members' choices.
You can refute anything I said, and I sort of expect you to, but before you do, please for the sake of informed consent read up on your own history. If your testimony is bulletproof and the church is as true as it claims, no single piece of media should be able to hurt it, and if that isn't the case, it's all the more reason. Try out the CES Letter, but if you're too LDS for that, you can start with the Gospel Topics Essays on the church's website. The CES Letter is more objective, as the GTEs tend to try and spin it in the most positive light it can, which is, at best, an ugly level of light, but at the end of the day, much of the history, logical fallacies, and discrepancies are covered there.
Of course at the end of the day, what do I know? I've only lived on both sides.
First off your report in and info has all been phenomenal in presenting well researched information and at this point you’ve proved yourself to be the only short form content creator I’ve subscribed to! Keep it up!!!
I have 2 cousins who are lds and will be going on their respective missions soon. Usually they learn the language of where they are going in less than a month and learn to speak it fluently. The us army has reached out to their training programs to see how they can get people to learn languages so fast. Nothing stronger than faith.
It's not as difficult as some might expect. I was conversational in Spanish in less total time than a 40hr work week(most of that time was spent learning proper vocabulary). Good teachers that understand the language can get most people up to speed fairly quickly in most languages. The trick is having quality teachers to teach the language with a well designed curriculum.
Nothing stronger than Cult obedience.
They don't learn it in a month. They go to the MTC for 1-2 months. Only about half learn it fluently in the 2 years. Half barely get by and forget everything in a few months. I know, because served a foreign LDS mission. Don't spread lies that any LDS missionary "usually learns the langauge in less than a month". Absolutely 0 LDS missionaries have ever learned a foreign language fluenty in a month.
@@jakehone Its not that serious dawg
Im LDS and ive never heard such nice things about us. Most people hate us. Thank you all.
Well truth be told whole thing is a sham
@@Tonixxy how would you know, you prolly couldnt even get in.
Its like the saying goes… “to understand the _____, you have to be the _____”
@@Temu-Lander It is said in the Bible that there will be no more prophets after Jesus left.
If you want to practice true Christianity go join Catholic/Orthodox churches.
Leave the sect behind.
@@Tonixxy we dont even use the bible as our main source of knowledge. And btw Christianity only means you believe in jesus christ.
@@Temu-Lander if ypu don't use the bible as a whole or reject it in part you are not true Christians but a cult at best.
Also there is Nicene creed, and it shows what someone must believe in to call himself a Christian.
They've got a brilliant rapid language programme. I don't buy into their faith, but they're the nicest folk.
Why not give the LDS church a try and just see what happens. What is the worst that could happen. I know that it has changed my life for the good!! I would invite you to have the missionaries come over and have a lesson. If you go into it with an open mind and open heart you will not regret it!!
Its a cult and as you can see they jump at any chance to suck in the next person. Don't invite the missionaries over, if you are really interested do your own research.
@@yamabro4704 Yeah join the cult of scam artist and see what happens, excellent idea! What is the worst that could happen, beside being forced to push this crap on others, becoming victim or involved with pedophilia, exploitation and getting unpersoned by everyone you know if you wake the fuck up and notice that you are indeed in a cult and since cult is built to be close tied, loosing your friends and family in the process.
There is plenty of information out there from exmembers telling why its absolutely horrid idea and this whole cult should be stopped, before more innocent people are ruined by it.
@@yamabro4704 Ach, I talk to them when I see them. Spoke to a couple in the park last month, including a college wrestler who popped about 24 pull ups, said that he used to be able to do 25 muscle ups, and then did one just to show me! Nah, I've a philosophy PhD. I've already thought.
@Ryan McBeth. I really appreciate you not being critical to our religion. You can tell there are some people that don’t like us (especially from some of the comments calling us a indoctrinators becuase they watched a Hollywood produced documentary from someone who was clearly not a Ladder day Saint and who clearly has never had any real and sincere interaction with a Ladder day Saint) really appreciate you man! Go MERICA
Every LDS member I ever met in the army was an exceptional soldier.
@@RyanMcBethProgramming Greatly appreciated! I’ve met multiple veterans in the church church and I’m incredibly proud of the way they represent us and our country.
LDS Member here. Since on missions we learn the culture so thoroughly, it’s surprisingly common to have some members approached after missions asking about this work. I actually have some family who were approached to help out after their missions.
Pretty cool how you shared this message without being biased, the world need’s more media like this!
My favorite PL I served with was Mormon. He missioned in Taiwan before going to West Point.
Mormons are the friendliest and most reliable people I've ever met in my whole life. Two of my Marines when I was in Afghanistan where Mormons. They never question orders they always performed as they were expected and if there was something obvious to be done they would do it without being asked.
As an LDS service member I was excited to see this and shared it with my family. My LDS background has been a huge help in transitioning into military service and the stability it brings to my household no matter where I am stationed makes frequent transitions very smooth. Even though I served a mission inside the US the clean lifestyle is a huge +.
I served my LDS mission in France!
Living somewhere helps so much to understand a culture, and it is a great experience
Exactly, it influences people in a way those who haven't aren't capable of understanding. Couple that with dependents who grow up overseas and then get sent to a foreign country for a mission and the way we look at things is much different.
Somebody needs to remember John Moses Browning, one of premier firearms inventors who was a devout Mormon. The guns he invented have been used in 2 world wars & many other bloody conflicts since, and are still being used today
I first heard this over 25 ago. My med school roommate's father served in the military in Vietnam War, apparently in some form of intelligence capacity. Both had gone to University of Notre Dame (and took great pribe in their alma mater) but his dad said some of the best intelligence agents were Mormons: he said they were very patriotic; had little to no vices that could be exploited such as drinking, gambling, or sleeping around; often fluent in a foreign language as well as knew the local customs from their missions.
He never told his son exactly what he did in Vietnam; he would become very quiet. But back in the US he went into commercial banking becoming an executive at a small local bank.
As a member of the church I really appreciate how well this was said
And like how he you pointed out how we’re prefer to be called “Latter Day Saints.” then just being called “The Mormons.”
Because unlike pretty much all MSM and a whole host of other online personalities, this guy doesn’t have anti religion axe to grind with everyone…
@@Jerram89 I would say the vast majority of criticism towards the mormon church is very valid as for other religions I have no idea but theres some serious problems with the mormon church.
@@starsn7974 I think it’s moreso a matter of time and place. Sure, there are a ton of problems with any religion, or really any large organization, but it doesn’t need to be brought up *every* time
@@starsn7974 like what I left the church years ago due to being raised in it and deciding I was atheist. But what are the serious problems you speak of
I am a member of the of the church. I served a mission in Guatemala and had to learn Spanish as well as a Mayan dialect called Q'eqchi'.
Thank you for emphasizing that this documentary is not a representation of mainstream LDS and it was about a cult offshoot.
Thank you for your service and for all you do man
Ya I liked that he did that
Am I wrong or confused? Mormons on UA-cam and on planes?
@@user-white007 A lot of people get some of our beliefs mixed up. We can drive, use technology and all that. We just dont drink or smoke or do drugs, stuff like that. But we can use tech and stuff
Nobody cares about your vacation to Guatemala.
Some communities have given so much to this country. Mormons, Indians, Pacific Islanders, and more. I served with a lot of LDS guys and they're some of the most squared away soldiers anywhere.
Every mormon I have met is the nicest person I have ever met.
I was raised in an lds household, we always pray for soldiers, give them care packages, etc.
I was raised in a lsd household.
We all see many collours.
@@helv2000 except before like the 1980s when the church black people couldn't get into heaven.
@@helv2000 please say the LDS is misspelled or is this a “Hol up, wait a minute, something ain’t right?” Moment.
@@H-to-O my POV: Woosh
my brother was serving in ukraine until jan 27 and was reassigned to california but learned russian and can speak it fluently now
I'm mainstream LDS and am in the army. Have been for 4.5 years now. There is nothing contradictory in the teachings of my faith to being in the army. I love my country and my God.
Every LDS member I ever met in the army was an exceptional soldier.
When he said critical he meant essential.. It confused me, cause I know a lot of LDS in military. Also, besides foreign languages is there a big martial arts push for youth or is that just a local thing..? I lived in Mesa, AZ.
I hope you don't become a another last Nephite Moroni. But since The Book says Nephites are extinct, you are all Lamanites, anyway. Don't repeat history and become the last of the Lamanites. Take it from me, the last of the Mohicans.
@@nadeembitar5292 Well, it's a good thing I don't care what that book says!
@@TheScandoman Why don't you like The Last of the Mohicans?
35 years later, my dad who's about as white as they come, still speaks perfect Spanish from his mission to Chili.
At first I thought this said that we (LDS) were critical “of” the military and not critical “to” the military 😂 I thought that was awkward, since I’m a returned missionary in the army 😂
Most of the LDS guys I served with were stand-up guys. Welcome home from your mission.
That’s what I thought too😂 served a mission and was in the USMC for 8 years
@@RyanMcBethProgramming oh its been a decade since I've served, Im an O3 med specialty servicemember now, but thank you!
Idk wy people hate them so much here in Idaho their very nice people and have helped me and other people in the community in need of help their good people.
It’s cause we are too good. We are a very efficient organization. We are a worldwide church and are the wealthiest church in the world. We also have cheap college opportunities (byu) and are just play happy. A lot of Catholics and protest preachers hate us cause their numbers are dwindling and our are growing. It simp,e jealousy for some, and others don’t agree with the teachings of the church such as marriage between man and woman for political reasons. These are just a few reasons.
Thank You to All Our LDS people. You are true Patriots.
Thank you!! We appreciate all the respect, those of us in the US love and support our country
My dad was in the army, served his LDS mission in NYC prior to that. There's a story that goes my dad almost joined the intelligence side, possibly even the division you referenced. But classes for that didn't start until 6 months on and my mom was very pregnant with my older brother at the time, so he became a cook instead & got out in '96.
I’m lds return missionary and applied for one of the jobs at that unit as a civilian, those jobs are tough.
K quick explain to me how yahweh spoke to yahweh in Sodom and Gomorrah, and how to you reconcile polygamy with what Jesus said in Matthew?
@@LED7ZEPPELIN7NEMEC modern LDS don't really practice polygamy... since like 120 or so years ago.
I think you're confusing LDS with FLDS, which is an off-shoot denomination that split from LDS PRECISELY over the issue of polygamy. So since our man here is LDS and not FLDS... I think you're directing that question to the wrong fella
@@LED7ZEPPELIN7NEMEC omfg bro 💀
@@maxi1ification no the church doesn't officially support polygamy but they also don't say it is wrong....I'm fully aware
@@LED7ZEPPELIN7NEMEC if you practice polygamy, you are excommunicated. I don't know if the mormon church could possibly be more clear about it.
I always wondered why there was so many Mormons in my basic
Hey, thanks for a good representation of us! Very clear!
if you think about it they’ve been a critical part of the us army ever since John Browning made the M1911, M2, M1919, BAR, Hi-Power, and M1897 series of pistols, machine guns, and shotguns
Book of Mormon Church elites make great giblets. We love to have you for dinner.
Sorry, bad translation. Did they start bombing monastery Monte Cassino yet or is it too late?
Coincidentally, i saw four American missionaries earlier today leave the bus i was traveling home with. I recognized them as Mormons thanks to their black name templates they wore on their clothes.
Another thing about Mormons is they are good advisors about practical prepping. It's called provident living and most would be happy to tell you how to be ready for everyday apocalypse (my term) such as storms, job loss, power loss, earthquake. If you're prepared they don't have to help you while they're trying to help their own family.
Served a mission in riverside California from 95 to 97. Thank you for being fair to the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
I never served with an LDS member who wasn't an exceptional soldier.
i’m a utahn. tysm for covering Utah
Plus, they are universally good Americans and come to work ready to work. I don't buy their Kool aid, but I like them.
Love your positivity, as comment sections are often dreadful.
One thing, I'd be a bit hesitant to say any group is "universally good" (or bad). Unfortunately it's not always the case, but good to know there is a feeling of positivity there.
Hey, as a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I appreciate that you respected us and that you clarified the offshoot people. A lot of people conflate us. Keep doing what you're doing man, you got yourself a new sub
I served with LDS soldiers. They are good people.
Thank you for not saying stuff that isn't true often I hear people say things that aren't true or are no longer true, like people say we have multiple wives, that was a thing for selective individuals like 200 years ago, or we force men and women to go on missions they have a choice but it is STRONGLY encouraged for men to go on missions.
My father in law served his mission in Taiwan, and just recently retired from his job in the state department.
One of my friends served in Novosibirsk, Russia, and two in Ukraine, though one was evacuated due to the invasion of Crimea.
I'm mormon and I'd have lessons with people all over the world. I'm actually really good friends with a Person in Poland. As a missionary you're basically soldiers of God. Making sure people get closer to him and save their souls and help them be humble. Your job is to go wherever church tells you to go and if you need to learn a new language they will teach you. Basically giving you all the tools to go out and spread the word wherever and whenever. Some come back with so much knowledge and have so much culture. I've been with the church for a long time and I've never heard of any of my friends getting attacked or killed. So us as a church know God is real cause they are happy and healthy when they come home. A missionary can only stay for a couple months at a time at one place. So usually they know a good chunk of foreign languages and knowledge.
As an active member of the LDS church and follower of your posts,this is a good post. Thanks for the positive comments .
I served with LDS members in the Army. Much respect.
Positive in the sense that it’s fair-minded. As a fellow member of the church and a former service member I like that we sometimes get this kind of recognition for something deep inside of us. Latter-day-saints are over represented in the US Intelligence community because of our focus on personal integrity and love of country.
@@zezrom123 my sister just retired from a Career working for a 3 letter agency that sends recruiters to BYU. She was hired right out of college.
I’ve been a LDS member since I was 16 and I can also confirm this. I have brothers that went to Russia
What do you think of Brandon Fugal
There is no need in foreign heresies in Russia
Well said. One of the best videos.
I never would’ve thought of that angle. Thanks
Why is there an NSA datacenter in Bluffdale, UT (effectively SLC)? Because LDS keep their mouth shut. Apparently they're big in the CIA too. Every LDS I've met have been upstanding individuals. Respect.
They also pass background checks and drug screens really easily.
Unless they’re maintaining foreign contacts
I had no idea. Thank you for sharing this. You always share such cool stuff. 👍🏻😉
Memorized my army creed before basic training thank you ❤
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I greatly appreciate the respect and attention you have given while speaking about our members and culture in this video. I don't get to see it a whole lot on the internet and seeing it from you, someone who isn't even a member of our church, has made my day. Thank you
I’m not a religious person but I appreciate the brigade
Loving your shorts do far man keep up the great work!
Holy shit. That’s awesome!
One of the few cadres in the US who prize travel and learning a foreign language, too many Americans never set foot outside the country. Very cool to know!
In the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics, the IOC had to actually turn away volunteer interpreters because there were so many on hand.
That's cool
I think this is awesome factual reporting! Thank you!
As a member of the church I'm so grateful you haven't bought into anti Mormon BS from 150+ years ago and have portrayed our religion logically, informatively(pretty sure that's a word), and fairly. :)
Joseph Smith was a schizo pervert.
@@warweasel2832 Ok bud :) have a good one.
Mormonism is heresy lmao
trying to get people to join a cult("religion") is just annoying. stop annoying people when they dont come to you, if they come to you without you people 'informing' them about your religion, then sure go ahead and inform them/try to get them to join or whatever you do
*_They are also easier to background check._*
I've met LDS missionaries here in Sweden, who said they been here for 5 months and spoke it more or less fluently. Note that Swedish is a really hard language to master so not to be detected by natives. Very special melody and intonation, but they learned it in just a few months.
Real nice people. Stopped preaching when politely asked, and instead had a nice conversation about culture and values.
That's so cool
Thank you for your video.
I joined the Army when I was 19, and I was surprised at how many LDS there were. Being from Florida originally, I thought there were hardly any Mormons in the world. Man was I wrong lol
I've long felt that the greatest hidden strength of the US military is its diversity. Our diverse service members have been an asset in every conflict.
Yeah, every decent person hates the term "diversity" in how it's used nowadays, but it's actually a true thing for the US military and pretty unique in the world
The US 'diversity' is a strength not because it is a byproduct of 'representation' or 'to fight systemic racism' or 'for reparation', but because of the individual freedom to show the diverse thought and ideas. And I'm pretty sure if the black trans non-binary person don't have the same thought and idea as a certain ideological group, they won't be chosen to be 'representation for diversity'.
@@TheSiprianus they wouldn't because the typical trans community is hateful and tries to tear people down based on differences. So yes, that'd be the opposite of diversity and freedom of thought, and it's why normal people dislike the whole LGBT movement because it's filled with intolerance
Sure you beat us but can you beat yourself?
Not surprised. Every Mormon I met in the Marine Corps was genuinely kind, tolerant, and understanding. These are the traits that make someone very good at developing cultural competence.
Love your vids so informative!
You were very respectful of our religion. Thank you