The PRO GUIDE to controlling PLUGINS with the Qcon ProX
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Are you battling with the INSERTS button on your Qcon or finding dozens of pages of unreadable displays too much to handle? Then look no further as we delve into taming this function and turning it from a frustrating and pointless experience into a truly useful piece of functionality. Cubase users stick to the end for a tutorial on optimising your system even further using the Remote Control Editor. If you enjoy this or my other videos please consider putting a pound or two in the tip jar at my BUY ME A COFFEE account.
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00:00 Welcome
00:28 Why use the Inserts function?
01:22 Overview of this tutorial
02:54 Navigation and activation of plugins
04:04 Keeping the plugin list manageable
05:21 Opening the plugin interface in your DAW
06:00 Basic editing for any DAW
08:15 Optimised Cubase plugin maps for the ProX
11:03 Other features of the Remote Control Editor
12:30 Getting the most from your Pro XS extenders
Curate your own collections of Plugins in Cubase: • Customise your Cubase ...
LIVING WITH THE QCON PRO X
I bought the Qcon Pro X when I was building my home studio (Moonhare Studio) in 2017 and I am currently using it to control Cubase Pro 11 on a 64gig Scan 3XS windows PC. Despite having a superb feature set and tough build quality, it suffers from a non-existent User Manual so it's difficult to discover the many 'hidden' functions. Once you've learnt to live with it though, it is a great piece of kit.
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Again, great video Darren!👍🏻
Thanks to you!
Once again, very useful guide. Thanks a lot Darren for posting this. Appreciate a lot !!!
Thanks. Gradually filling in the gaps on the new layout tutorials.
Excellent, simple, and to the point, thanks. That has opened up plugin controls and Steinberg's remote for me.
I actually find myself just pausing when I open a new plugin I know I will use a lot and quickly programming the RCE controls. That way over time I program the ones I actually use rather than wasting time with dozens I may never touch.
Superb video!! Many thanks. I'm going to have to go through ALL that you've produced. I learned more in the last 14 minutes than I have in a year of half-hearted faffing about.
Very pleased to help out. You are so right, It's frustrating trying to find all this stuff out on your own.
Hi Darren, just wanted to thank you for your work regarding the QCon tutorials. It really helped me out a lot! Your channel is a real little gem in the UA-cam production world.
Cheers from Serbia!
Thank you for that comment. Much appreciated. The official help for these units I found to be really difficult to find so thought it might help out to share what I learned as I went aling. Enjoy your music making. Darren
Thanks for this very clear explanation
Thanks for watching. Glad it helped.
Great tips for workflow. I got both units just from watching your vids and I'm over the moon with them. Cubase suddenly got extremely easy to control. Nice one 👍
Wow. Perhaps I should have negotiated commission from Icon! But seriously I'm glad it is working out for you. Of all the midi controllers I've used over years this is the closest to my ideal feature set and I'm still learning new tricks.
@@MoonhareStudio haha maybe you should have!!
You're a Legend thank you!
Not sure I'd go that far but thanks. Glad it helped out. 🤟😎🎸
Thank you Sir, you are an awesome teacher.
Thanks for that. Always happy if these tutorials can help out as the manuals are not particularly useful.
@@MoonhareStudio You are brilliant Sir, Thank you very kindly.
Great video! I just bought a Icon Qcon Pro X and your videos is helping me a lot!
Annybody has an idea how to change the settings on plugins in LOGIC PRO X please?
Thanks a lot and so sorry I can't help out with Logic Pro X. Really not familiar with that DAW.
another great one! for a moment I thought you succeed to get to work the lower LCD damn ahaha :)
Haha. Once I do that I'll be able to retire!
great video Darren this also works on my qcon pro G2...(if only i could find a replacement lcd ..having a nightmare trying to find anyone who can send me a part)
Is it completely broken then?
Hello great video thank you very much! Do you know if this feature of the plugins also work in Ableton and Pro Tools?
Hi there and thanks for watching. You should be able to control plugins as per the first part of the video, but the bit where I remap the controls is a specific feature of Cubase. There may be something similar in your DAW but I don't have any experience with Ableton or Pro Tools so I'm afraid I can't really help with that.
Thanks for this vid! One question, how do you program Cubase Mixer Configurations under the Qcon Layer 2 F1-F8 buttons?
Good question. Check out this video for all the information you need. ua-cam.com/video/aPLE4xEwe88/v-deo.html
Hi, you have been so helpful, I thought I would bother you again. With that in mind, my Econ will no longer add markers. I have layer 2 lit, but no function. Icon told me to remove all Cubase preferences, that seems to be. a massive pain. I figured I could reset the Qcon, but can't find imap to do that. Any solution? Thank you again. Jay
Thank you for the excellent video...your tip to make an existing plugin pop up using the third know one click back and forward works, but you lose all the existing plugin settings. Do you know of a way around this?
Interesting. I will experiment when I'm back in the studio. It may be that workaround isn't as useful as I'd hoped. Many thanks for pointing that out and if I can solve the issue I'll let you know.
I stumbled upon the same problem. Have you found a solution?
Hey Darren, have you had any luck with how to use Quick Controls with this unit? Just upgraded to Cubase 12 and I cant find a way. Any info appreciated
I don't actually use the Qcon that way. I have a little Nano Kontrol 2 to do that job running through the Studio setup as a generic remote. I explain how to do Track Quick Controls in my vid on the Nano. Perhaps this will give you some ideas? ua-cam.com/video/JsogrggvzRM/v-deo.html
@@MoonhareStudio Thanks Darren. Think I might have to get a Nano as well.
They are cheap and fit in any space. Wouldn't be my choice of DAW controller but as a button and slider bank it is a brilliant addition to my Qcons.
Does anyone know if this is a feature or function with the Platform Nano Air?
Sorry no. I haven't used that unit.
Hi Darren. I was wondering how to use my sends in a better way. When I select 'FXsend', and I want to switch on one of my sends already in the list, it doesn't switch it on but something else happens. In my case my monitor button goes on and off(?) Any idea how to fix this?
I don't know the answer off the top of my head but I'm hoping to be in the studio on Saturday so I may have a play around and see what I can find. Perhaps I need to do a video on the FX Sends button too!
@@MoonhareStudio Hi Darren! Thanx for the reply. I can make a video to see what happens. Via email? After another startup the sends on/off jusst bypasses the whole sends column.
A vid would be useful. I'm happy to take queries by email. No guarantees, I'm just a user too, but I will try my best. Darren
Whats better the Solid State UF8 or the QCON Pro X. Ive heard that the QCON pro X can be flaky..?
Hi there. The UF8 looks great. Top build quality, I like the displays particularly and it looks like it has a large feature set. The cons for me are it has no dedicated transport bar so you have to go through a menu and use the buttons along the top which are also used for other features (surely a prominent transport bar should be standard on a midi interface?). And of course it is a lot more expensive than other 8 channel controllers (you could get a 16 channel Presonus Faderport for less).
I think a fairer comparison to the Qcon would be either the Behringer X Touch or the Presonus Faderport 8. As for the Qcon, I think certain specific units are flaky, not the Pro X per se. The problem comes if you get a dodgy unit because Icon are not really top of their game when it comes to customer service so if you get a problem that could be tricky (or you just return it to your dealer and ask for a replacement). I love my Qcon. It was a display model so I got it cheap but it is solid, works well and once I worked out how things operate I have not had any game changing problems. If you want to go the Qcon route and want to save some money look at the G2. Almost identical feature set but without the meter bridge along the top. It's next to each fader instead. If you want 16 tracks out of the gate rather than 8 (with the option to extend later on) then check out the Faderport 16. It is smaller, so fits easily on a desk, although if you have big hands I've heard the faders may be a little close together. Chris Selim does a great review of this one on his channel.
The UF8 looks good and expensive. My personal experience is that the ProX may have been a bit flakey with the initial software, but QCon have continued to update the software and the whole setup has been very stable for some time now.
@@stevejones1966 Yes I think you're right. The new panel is better than the old layout too. The UF8 does look great but the transport bar for me is essential if I'm paying nearly £1000 for a controller.
@@MoonhareStudio thanks for the feedback! i think i will stick with the Qcon Pro X although the UF8 from SSL is a top brand again you have a point in regards to the available transport..
I've searched all over and cannot find out if the sends button controls one send at a time for all channels, or if it controls all sends at a time for one channel. Would you let me know so I can stop killing my phone battery looking for the answer?
Thank you.
Simply put all Cue sends for one channel. It's not a feature I use because I never work with more than one musician (usually me but I have done some sessions for solo artists). That means I rarely set up a cue mix in the control room and if I do it tends to be a reference track.
You can select the track you want to work with in the normal ways (hit the SEL button or touch the fader) and the track name will be displayed on the top LED. You then use the rotary pots 1-4 to control Cue Sends 1-4 (pretty logical) although to get to the PAN or POST/PRE fader options you'll need to use the page up page down buttons. Adjust the track level in the mix by turning the pot, and turn the track on and off (effectively a mute button) by clicking to pot like a button. Then when you're done select a new track and repeat.
I hope that makes sense but I will put this on the list to do a FINE FOCUS video on as I don't seem to have covered it anywhere in my Living With The Qcon Pro X series yet.
@@MoonhareStudio It makes perfect sense. Thank you so much for the detailed reply.
As a matter of fact, reading this just helped me realize a possible workaround in Studio One. I know that isn't what we were discussing, but I'm still holding you responsible for ending my agonizing over this. So thanks again!
hey there - please if you have any salution...im use with QCON PROX > CUBASE 10.5 PRO > WINDOWS 10 - qcon works ok, levels, panning etc...BUT- the screen show me the pluging and thats it! no fithures only "LEVEL" and i cant control any plagins ..whay's that? do you know?
I am not sure but I wonder if you are using the PAGE UP and PAGE DOWN buttons to get to all of your plugin parameters? When you first click the PLUGIN button on your Qcon you will only see the initial page on the screen so you do need to change page. Have a look at the indexed section on basic editing contained in the video (comes in at 06:00). One other possible problem in Cubase is have you altered the REMOTE CONTROL EDITOR and deleted the parameters? Check out the indexed section on the the RCE where I tell you how to use it and also restore the defaults if it all goes wrong. (starts at 08:15).
Also do check out my other Qcon videos as they may help with the dispkayed information.
Hi Darren, I have this problem. the inserts are only on pages 0,2,4. I can only control the first one. Could you help me ?
It sounds to me like it thinks you have an extender attached and is throwing the other pages to that. Are you just using a ProX or do you have an XS too? If no extender then your DAW settings may have an extra controller listed which is confusing things. You could check out one of my videos that talk about attaching an extender to see if your settings are a wrong in the Studio Setup (assuming you are on Cubase) or a similar functionin your DAW. Good luck abd feel free to come back to me.
@@MoonhareStudio Thank you very much, solved. I have I keyboard 5 of Icon connected, it read it as extension .
@@oscarirustia Brilliant. It is usually something simple. Glad you got sorted and enjoy your music recording.
@@MoonhareStudio Thanks my friend, it was possible thanks to you!!!