Jordan Peterson Instantly OWNS Woke Professor On Gender Pronouns
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- In this video, we'll discuss a powerful exchange between Jordan Peterson and linguist John McWhorter on the gender pronoun debate. Dive into the societal implications, explore the balance between truthfulness and politeness, and uncover the importance of individual autonomy in language use. Don't miss this thought-provoking discussion on linguistic freedom in the modern age!
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If they have the right to be called what they want then I have the right to call them whatever I want
Not in Canada 😒 God bless the USA 🇺🇸
Well you certainly have the right to be called whatever YOU want. Just invent an absurdly complicated pronoun that they are bound to get wrong, then shout “Misgendering offence!” Aand see them being carted off to jail 😂
Brilliant
Absolutely! If I feel like a king, I can to say - please, call me, your majesty! Sometimes I feel so good! 😊
Well said.
I’m not going to speak English incorrectly in order to placate someone’s delusion about their own sexuality. Single person cannot be a “they”, it’s as simple as that.
Nor “set”, nor any other made up word!
Nor will I refer to myself or any other Straight male or female as "cis." Ever.
where the heck they got the term cis? when i hear that word it reminds me of a tumor.
But they can be called she it !😂
We have been calling individuals "they " or "them" for centuries, just not in the way that we are now being forced to do.
It is not uncommon, and I _guarantee_ that you have done this yourself to respond to a query such as "There is someone here to see you, but they don't have an appointment" with "Ask them if they can come back later". I am also willing to bet that you NEVER said "Is it a man or a woman?" so that you could respond with "OK ask him/her is he/she can come back later", so no, it is not "incorrect" to refer to someone as they/them.
What IS incorrect (and by that I mean absolutely WRONG) is for you to become a target if you do not do so.
I've got a t shirt that says " I only recognize biological pronouns. If you don't like it, then don't talk to me."
There is no such thing as biological pronouns
@@brunods4560pretty much as calling a singular by they or them?
@@neilgould7371 oh, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, Dickens and a long list done it. They singular
@@brunods4560 not the same is it, some fool stood there demanding you call them they or them?
@@neilgould7371 not the same? 🤣
Being polite and using their language is how we've gotten into this mess. It needs to stop!
U wanna b called they them. If I want that, then call me king. Even exchange. Annoying and yes it needs to stop.
Absolutely
I identify as a circus manager, I call everyone clown
I don't use gender. I have my own categories which are "chick" and "dude", and the criteria by which you're assigned is secret.
Oh if only I can do that with swear words.
😅😅😅😅
From one clown to another, thank you.
I'll call u jack Azz if ya want who gives a F ...hello mr Circus Manager
I will never be compelled to support the delusions of others
Never ❤
Transgender is not a delusion. It is a real thing. Gender is determined by more than just the presence or absence of a Y chromosome. That being said, Petersen did say that he would call people by the pronoun they request. He objects to it being forced on him by law.
@@javnok9266 Trans is a delusion
@@javnok9266it IS a delusion.
Man = adult male human being.
Woman = adult female human being.
I was born a man (male) and it is impossible for me to become a woman (female). Therefore, calling a MALE a "trans woman" or vice-versa will not be embraced by people. This is a Western "issue" primarily in Canada, USA, and some parts of Europe.
No your right an a law being passed for obeying pronouns won't happen due to freedom of speech if it counters another law it won't stand. So I'll always say he or she man or women because sex and gender are the same and is t a spectrum isn't basic know. They has always meant more than one person if your only one body and not a group of them then expect to be called he or she.
just call them *it*
No I would address them as a living being but not human because that living being threw away their humanity when they decided to question their own identity and confuse reality with delusion
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@@user-ry2me6ru3r troll is what you are
You missed whole point - the point is that people who DON’T call them that will be cancelled, fired, villainized. Compelled speech is wrong. I’m not changing the English language to suit your hyper sensitive feelings. EDIT; apologies to the original commenter. I get the joke now 😂
@@shm00py then I’ll call you anything I want to and it won’t listen to what you request. That’s what you are proposing
I also won’t talk to a schizophrenic’s imaginary friends either.
You’ll find, imaginary friends, are usually the less annoying people!
@@jennjohnson4067 Without a doubt.
They have the right to their opinion in what they want to be called. But they don’t have the right to tell me what my opinion is.
but the problem is, they have the politicians on their side, who pass the laws to ruin you if you don't comply. Vote OUT those politicians
Refusing to indulge in another individual's psychosis is NOT phobic!
Yess👏👏👏
Not to mention phobic means irrational fear. So none of that fits in the first place.
@@GreenProd007 thats phobia. phobic is aversion, against or anti...
@@lucomusicofficial People who go around calling other people phobic don't know that.
We are using the definition they are using which is synonymous with phobia.
If their self esteem is so fragile no label will ever be enough!
If someone tells me to call them they/them, I will immediately assume that they have a legion of demons inside them.
Jajajaja jajajaja jajajaja 👍🏼
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Who you gonna call?
Probably because you’re a moяon.
They/them as pronouns for an individual is absolutely ridiculous. Requiring it by law is not only ludicrous it strike me as tyranny.
Pronouns are not used to address a person. Pronouns are used to refer to a person when that person is not present. I will not be policed by someone who isn't even present.
You can say what you like about the cheese eating surrender monkeys but they are giving this a big swerve. Wait until they start questioning the inclusivity of le chat est sur la table.
Are "you" "your" then not pronouns?
Well said. It's about time someone made that point. It drives me mad.
@@0zyristhey tried to get the law to go after people for “mis-gendering” those desiring to get the “proper” words out of them, who would be able to then have a person jailed for non-compliance, whether they had intentionally done so or by not having gone to the trouble of doing a Google search on the person they may be meeting for the first time, AND, btw, who knows who they’re going to meet in the next 5 seconds…Maybe there wasn’t TIME to do a Google search! That’s no reason to throw someone in jail!
@@0zyrisAbsolutely they are. I find it interesting that nobody is trying to change 1st and 2nd person pronouns. Just the 3rd person ones. Who knows what they'd come up with to replace I/me, or you.
I disagree that any trans person NEEDS to have their preferred pronouns used. People NEED air to breathe, food to eat, water to drink, and to have friends and family who love and care for them. They do not NEED for others to use their preferred pronoun; they WANT that, but they do not need it. Therefore, personally, I will not lie and call a man a she and a female a he.
Mr Petersen is loving showing off his erudition .When dealing with large numbers as the professor wd b perfectly entitled to announce to all in advance that his expertise in linguistics prevents him using the plural form of oronouns when by all the rules of grammar it is quite simply incorrect
Excellent point, which was well said, using common sense.
AMEN 🙌
Gays for Gaza - when their go there, their families/friends quickly find out their pronouns are was/were.
😂
Flightless.
I will not call an individual “they”, under any circumstance.
I refuse to to refer to one person as a plural. If they don't like it, I'll just refuse to speak or interact with with that person.
Absolutely.
You just called them 'they'.
@@spextrekid9410 'they' aren't present, so it's ok. 😁
"they" is not always a plural :/
I guess you also refuse to use proper grammar lol. They had been used as a singular for at least 700 years lol
I am in my late 60s ... and nobody is going to force me to call them some idiotic self-appointed BS title unless they are willing to address me as your Supreme Ruler and Knower of all Knowledge and Bow in front of me .... then I will be more than happy to address them as " It "
I'm not being told how to address anyone. Your feelings are not my responsibility.
If they want me to use their preferred pronouns, then I should be permitted to address them with some choice adjectives.
😂😂😂
I don't care about a complete stranger's feelings.
Straight to the point! Thank you!!!! Obviously I agree.
Every man is an island. - John Donne
@@TheBillBunker Rave on John Donne.
You should treat everyone with respect,something this topic has none of.
A strangers feelings are as important as yours,but never call someone something their not,out of respect,so no they them crap etc
@@TristanPryor😂 I thought you were going the other way for a start. Since I don’t have a business where I come across these sot of people I will take someone who starts a conversation with telling me their preferred pronouns I will instantly take that as combative and try to disassociate with them immediately.
No one will make me say words I do not agree with, no one !
Me too.
I use NO stupid incorrect pronouns, period, that is my policy...
I deplore the fact that some 'people' think that distorting the English language is acceptable.
My mother said the only person who can refer to themselves in the plural are the queen, pregnant ladies and people with worms.
Beautiful!
😂😂😂 brilliantly put
Your mom rocks!
The only way to refer to oneself as plural is by using we. What are you saying?
😂😂😂😂 your mum is awesome
You cannot have a free society and have legislation to protect peoples feelings with criminal penalties to free speech!
We know that. They know that. They know we know that. They do it anyway. It's all about power to them.
Free speech is fundamental to freedom.
You truly don't have freedom of speech, though.
World is crazy, Canada is the craziest place in the world
Anyone who tries to force you to use "their" preferred pronouns, is now incapable of calling you a fascist.
Well said, except these very immature ideologues interpret fascism as "Any rules I don't like are fascist." Their ignorance and arrogance in using that term is disgusting, considering what harm actual fascism hath wrought.
@@karenk2409 and considering their own ideologies are often neoMarxist/fasist.
Did you actually mean to say, "not incapable"?
@@projektkobra2247 By using “force” to try and get someone to submit, they have exposed themselves as fascists.
So now they are incapable of calling anyone else a fascist unless they also want to expose themselves as a hypocrite as well.
@@jayg4202
You're not wrong.
However now that they're using Lawfare to change language, that means they can change the meanings of ALL words including of course "Fascist". Giovanni Gentile's definition isn't convenient for them.
If I see one person I refuse to call him or her “they” or “them”. You can play pretend and have all the delusions you want; but I refuse to play along with the fairy tale
I read a news story about a “they/them person” versus a group. Sentences like “They confronted them” made the story incomprehensible.
I'd rather be honest than a liar
The bottom line of all this is that it should not be enforced by law.
Stay strong, JP. 👍
I so agree with you. It also a way that steps on other people’s rights. Especially those who disagree with this nonsense. Someone in our family wants to be called by their pronoun and I told them that the only thing we can agree on is to disagree with each other. This person no longer comes around us, but that is their choice. I have a right to my choice to.
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He/him, she/her... Those are the only pronouns needed!
" it"
Or Shim!
Everyone was born with one set or the other. Halloween is over now, take off the mask and stop pretending
They/them are also necessary though. Else we'll have to say stuff like "a bunch a' hes and shes went partying together" or something.
@@TG-ge1oh nah, just a bunch of shims
That other guys voice tells me everything you have to know.
I refuse to use preferred pronouns
There are people dying from a lack of food and shelter. Why this is a topic absolutely makes no sense to me.
Pronouns are for reference, not preference. They don't get to rework our language to suit their delusions. It's one thing when someone asks for something but Jordan's absolutely right: once you try to COMPEL us by LAW to embrace the speech they want, the answer becomes an unconditional "no."
Except thats a lie. No one is being compelled by law.
@@biancawilloughby9980do you know Jordan Peterson's history? Do a little research on him and you'll find out what he's all about
@@biancawilloughby9980 If it weren't happening, why would it even be a topic?? Why would Jorden Peterson, a man who clearly doesn't make his career off of making up fanciful conspiracy theories, be talking about it if it weren't a very real problem or at least a very real threat?
@@biancawilloughby9980 Yes they are. Mis-gendering is now an offence in Canada, UK (esp. Scotland).
@@biancawilloughby9980 Read the news before claiming something with such confidence.
" The Popularity of The Principle Does Not Determine the Truth"
My response is.......a person has a right to call themselves whatever they want. Just don't expect me to buy into your "reality". That is *my* right.
Not only do these people want me to "respect" their choice of pronouns, they also expect to freely label me whatever they choose!
NO!
If they want a pronoun then it should be NUTS
No, no they don't. This has never happened. But feel free to be angry about it anyway.
They certainly lose me when they refer to me as cissss and yes they say it like a snake.
But you however have zero rights and no freedom of speech for your own personal self. Hypocrites and it’s insanity
And you can pretend all day long and still you will never be a different sex, species or a pronoun in the 3rd person, unless however we are talking about you when you are not around
It's a power trip. These people need to feel special and important so they try to force others to address them in a particular way.
And manipulation!
I will never allow any percentage of the population to dictate to my speech.
If someone says I “must” call someone else something-I will not communicate with them at all. I will not use any “ pronoun “. They can live in their world. I will live elsewhere
This is the dumbest crap ever. He and she are THIRD person. I'm not calling someone he or she when I'm talking to them, I'm calling them you or your, or by their name. If I say 'he' or 'she' it's in a discussion with another person. You don't have the right to dictate my language between me and another person.
This is the weird thing about all this nonsense.
Just came to say the same thing. You are 100% correct! .
If I’m speaking to you, the pronoun I will use is YOU. It’s no one’s business but my own what I call you or how I refer to you if im not speaking TO you.
Those narcissists need to get over themselves. (And that IS plural)
This has also occurred to me. I am perfectly happy to be courteous and address somebody in accordance with their wishes. But here I would need to talk to a third party about the person in their hearshot for that problem to even arise. But in those circumstances I would probably use the person‘s name, if I knew it. So frankly, I wonder how many times this issue would even arise in everyday life. Still, it is different if you are working in a teaching context, I suppose.
The teacher is a fool
I would say that the 'they's' of the world have a formidable 'I.' And a 'Me' and a 'Myself.' Hence that's 3, which is a 'they.' 🤔
If I can't use my own judgement in what pronoun to use for a person then I won't talk to that person. Period.
You are correct however that will be very detrimental in the long run to humanity …need to think broader that what you as one person can do even though what you advocate is what the majority of people will decide to do …
@@petergarlick8251 nope it will be a fkn relief
@@petergarlick8251 the few fk it up for them many ...... stop dealing with this nonsense ,hurts my feelings ,boo hoo get over it !!
@@douglascrawford3896it’s got nothing to do with hurt feelings it’s all to do with how to address this issue in the best practical way ((from a broad perspective) instead of your self centred narrow approach .. your reply simply validates that .. all the best in seeing the broader picture so that it helps you and everyone else but i very much doubt it ….
@@petergarlick8251 whats the broader picture men going into womens restrooms ,cmon man ,that is just pathetic ,just as bad as men in womens sports ,you liberals can teven make up your mind whether you are man or women ,grow the hell up way past time ..
If someone is an asshole, I will call them that with or without their permission.
How are these people becoming college professors? Who makes that decision should be fired.
"Mangling your own language to please someone else", well put!
For a grp of ppl who say they don't like labels they sure like to label themselves.
I refuse to participate in someone’s delusions.
I completely understand that they can call themselves whatever they want. But cannot comprehend how they can order someone else to call them something that is factually and grammatically wrong; yet the governments are passing hate laws to enforce this crazy. 😂
If only our world was full of Jordan Peterson's .
Then I would be the only moron.
but then the world would make too much sense! no woke, no karens o kevins...wouldn't that be a bit boring? 😛
It was then woke came. Good times we had.
He's a nutcase when he's pontificating about religion though. He's ok when he sticks to psychology.
Who controls language controls thought. Never be compelled to play by these stupid word games.
1984
Stupid word games . Yes ,that's for sure!!!!
I've already learned to walk forward, not learning to walk backwards.
By saying "just go with it" is taking away your freedom of making a choice for yourself and I'll be damned if I bend any knee to these literal tyrants of society
You do not address somebody as their pronouns. You talk ABOUT somebody with pronouns.
Exactly. How do they know what pronouns you use in their absence, and what does it matter?
So why would it even matter
@@thierpetersen7907 Exactly. Much of this is people being offended for someone else. People are perfectly capable of being offended on their own.
@@thierpetersen7907 BECAUSE everyone is saying if you don't call them by x y and z you're committing violence when clearly that is a lie.
Miss/Mister are gender specific and often used in their presence.
This is just a joke there are men and women, pronouns is just another woke term
Because of these people, I hate the word pronoun. I remember learning pronouns along with nouns and adjectives in school.
Pronouns are grammatically correct though. They just completely went nuts with their "rules"
I’m not calling nobody by a pronoun.
Yeah; descriptive nouns will do, such as Idiot, Moron and Narcissist
The ego is insecurities, it’s what’s desperate to be called something particular
I am an American. Compelled speech will not hold any sway over me. These people only have the power over you that you give them..
America gave the world UA-cam and Twitter so, yeah, you gave them that power.
I can only imagine what a nightmare this is to a English teacher.
Yeah. Try teaching a lesson on nominative, objective, and possessive case to a class of those manipulative idiots.
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It's so stupid with the self-constructed pronouns! You can't make-up your own language like that!
This title is silly. McWhorter is not woke and he wasn’t owned. It was a good discussion.
i remember when they tried to pass ebonics in mexifornia ,guess what it failed !!
You can, but you can’t make me use it.
It's my 100% right & freedom to say what I want & never use any gender pronouns ! Don't impede my given freedom to say what I want to say, do what I want to do, live how I want to live ! An individual can refer to anything that person wants to say ! But, I'm sticking to my guns & talking the way I want to ! An individual can't dictate how I say things! I'm not controlled by you or anyone ! I'm a man,he,him,male,guy, & will always be a man,he,him,male,guy ! I will never refer to an individual who claims the identity of an animal,an object, etc ! Nobody can change their biology through any medical procedures ! I know that I'm a biological male & will be a male even beyond death ! I'm not gender neutral, bi,sis,Trans, I'm a male !
In Germany it will become illegal (10.000 Euro fine) this year to call a man disusing as a woman a man.
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Why do my rights have to be violated to protect your delusions
They have the right to describe themselves what they want. They do NOT have the right to tell me to agree with them.
Nor participate in their delusions.
Puck politeness, that's what got us here in the first place.
Interestingly enough politeness has nothing to do with it. Rather it is Permissiveness that has landed us in such hot water. It’s easy enough to politely reject someone asserting falsehoods and maintaining your moral standing. It’s when you acquiesce to the assertion of certifiable falsehoods that you end up on the slippery slope. Being polite or cordial is generally speaking a good thing and only in rare circumstances would I advocate against it.
Nah. Politeness and decency count, they are value, we can't lose them. This is pure abuse of language which is designed to catch us off guard. It is meant to deceive, and it works, especially on the young, sadly.
@@stephend4909 In some cases, being "polite" to one person can be seriously disrespectful to many others. Referring to ANY MALE as she or her, is seriously misogynistic and disrespectful and harmful to ALL actual women...even the ones who are too Woke to realize it. It is exactly like shooting all women the bird and telling them to go F themselves, and telling them to shut up and just take their own erasure and loss of boundaries, and telling them that they don't matter AT ALL. It has led to women being forced to allow men to invade female only spaces and sports, the arbitrary changing of language and of laws that discriminate against women and children, in favor of men impersonating women.
Duck autocorrect.
100%
Stupidity is being approved by law.
Just because someone says they're offended by my words doesn't mean they're correct to be offended, or that I care that they are or are pretending to be offended.
I haven’t had anyone ask me to call them the opposite pronouns yet. I don’t think I will capitulate and instead end up using their name.
"their" !? as in they/them ??
I identify as a non tax payer.....so does that mean i can just stop paying taxes?
They don't need to be called "they". They are actually enjoying making you submit to them.
Reminds me of Orwell's 1984, the state using the force of law to compel the speech that when asked what 2 + 2 equals? And that the answer is 5 if they say it is 5.
Just curious, have you ever even read 1984?
@@javnok9266 Have you? That does happen in the book, dude.
The implementation of Ms. is completely different that the pronoun issue.
When women chose to use Ms. Instead of Miss or Mrs., it was because they wanted their privacy as to their marital status.
People who demand the use of opposite or completely fabricated pronouns are demanding that the world go along with an objective lie and demeaning and dangerous redefinition of fundamental language.
Humans cannot change sex. Men are NEVER women and vice versa.
To ever refer to a male as “she/her” is disrespectful to all women and it makes the person capitulating to using the wrong pronoun become a submissive to the person who either mentally disordered or a predator.
The crown corporation was in charge of the curriculum in the public schools i was forced to attend, the crown corporation taught me grammar Laws, now they created Laws in complete contradiction to what they themselves drilled into my head as i grew, I am incapable of catering to what they themselves drilled into my heads as nonsense!!! In english classes had i EVER referred to a singular with a plural, i would have received a failed grade. The crown corporation has not taught me a new english, nor have they offered me classes to comprehend this new english, i cannot comply as i do not comprehend this new english, how can the crown corporation criminalize what the have taught me is fact?
he does not "owns", he just proclaims to be right. that's a difference
This whole movement has killed it for me. I think I would have agreed in the past for the sake of politeness and respect, but there is no respect left anymore for this community.
0 respect I repeat 0
It's not really a 'community'. Only some narcissistic activist types that have found a 'cause' (in otherwise empty lives)
@@parvent3556 it's more than "some". Maybe cult is a better word for it.
when did hurting someone feelings become more important than truth
When Social Media was invented
Whenever the leftists are in power.
“They” refer to themself and internal demons.
This is one of the times where reaction content actually adds to the original video, loved the commentary
My son worked in the tech department of a big university (in the U.S.) that issued a mandate for professors, staff and students to use whatever pronouns an individual chooses. A new hire informed my son about her so-called pronouns. He told her straight out, "I'm not going to remember any of that." He had far bigger issues in his position of responsibility than kowtowing to some brainwashed undergraduate's concept of social justice. Fortunately she didn't raise a fuss with the administration. It wasn't long afterward that, fed up with the woke mentality as well as the effect it had on the efficiency of how the department was functioning, my son quit to build up his own business.
Good luck to him.
Good for him, hope is business is doing well💖
If I were a teacher, I'd just address them by their last name.
@@annbeirne9583 The irony is that since he and several other talented individuals left, that whole department has gone downhill. The administration seems more concerned about ticking all the woke boxes than about hiring qualified personnel. Parents, these are the educational institutions you are paying top dollar to put your children through.😵💫
Screw pronouns... What's next?
We are. If we allow this gibberish to continue, WE are screwed.
preferred adjectives.
Tell them that you aren’t interested in whatever they believe on that subject. Tell them that it is your classroom and you are older, more experienced, more worldly and a hell of lot smarter than they are and, as far as you’re concerned they’re all just students and to shut up and listen.
“You wanna be called they?”
“Absolutellyyy”
“Let me ask you again: YOU…… wanna be called they?”
I knew this one professor who, on the very first day of the course he said, "I'm here to teach you and give the tools needed to be successful in life. With that being said, I will not use pronouns to identify you, and when I address you, I will be using your government name. If anyone has a problem with that, go to the guidance counselor and withdraw from this course, but before you do remember, this will hurt you in the long run." I said to myself, my man's stood his ground good for him. That pronouns shit to identify someone is getting ridiculous.
The people who want to be called something else are not happy with who they are as a person.
Their problem, not mine.
Nicely said! I love this!
I identify as “Grand Emperor of the Stars.”
Don’t you oppress me!
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refused to bow to the King's image, and were thrown in the furnace. It's happening again today.
Perfect: "Behind every psychological disorder is a spiritual deficiency." Carl Jung!
What? Crazy cultists saying crazy things?
@@hexum7 Do you know who Mr. Jung is? I guess not. It seems to me that you are of a generation being left behind in darkness by our very, very poor educational system. This is not your fault. My heart does go out to you as you have been missing so much about life outside of yourself. My apologies for just such a travesty.
@@chucksowinski2236 Carl Jung? Is that whine you meant? Yes. I took a few psychology classes. I think we read him in one, but I am not sure if it was a whole book or just extracts of his writing . Anyway, no need to get depressed about our educational system
@@chucksowinski2236 anyway, I was referring to the OP, not the next post. It irritates me tbh, when people write things like Jung would think this, or Fraud said that, as if they were experts
my pronouns are what I call YOU, not what you want ME to call you. YOUR pronouns are what you call ME, whether I like it or not.
Maybe “they” should legally change their name to “they”! Then they can asked to be called whatever they want!
LOL! "Canadians America hold my beer I'll one up!!".
The current intense focus on gender identity, particularly the question of whether men can be women, can be seen as a form of ideological imposition that is absurd to its core but serves the purpose of ideological subversion perfectly. This is a tactical maneuver, not a spontaneous social evolution. It is a deliberate attempt to redirect public discourse from critical issues such as economic stability and national security to less impactful, yet highly contentious social debates. This is a classic move in the subversion playbook because it creates a smokescreen for destabilizing activities.
Well stated!
Agree!
The problem is it is impossible to seek Truth if one is unwilling to approach it with courage.
My right to call people what I WANT TO CALL.THEM! I don't have to be bullied to call them what they want me to!
Well said on the subject matter sir 👏🏼 !
I will not play their reindeer games!
It's hard enough to remember someone's name!