More money saving moves from the garbage front office. Give out 20 million for a pitcher who will at best pitch next year half way thru. And when he does come back from over a year of not playing, you think he'll be pitching at the level he use to? Please, there's literally more talented pitchers who struggle coming back. Their staff can't stay healthy, and they keep signing high risk low reward scenarios. You paid Chris Sale to win the Cy Young for someone else. You paid Giolito to not pitch for you last year, and won't be ready until later this year. Paying a pitcher to not pitch for them is just par for the course. You guys say low risk high reward, this is not true. They are paying injured pitchers that take 2 years to get right instead of just paying a star what hes worth. You could of saved that near 60 million dollars that you gave to Giolito and Sandoval and actually paid for a stud.
Look at the Dodgers depth chart at the start of last season. They had like 10 stating pitchers and still ended throwing bullpen games in the playoffs. Teams need a LOT of depth and most decent starters are getting 20mil/year. This sets the Sox as a destination, which is a good thing because you can get great pitchers at a discount for a season ahead. They need to make more moves, but pretending they could've gotten 1 pitcher instead is really silly. They need *more* depth, NOT less.
They are not fooling anyone who has a working set of eyes and half a brain. Boston is well known for having discerning and knowledgeable fans. Who the hell is being fooled by this crap they put on the field.
If Sandoval is in the top half of your rotation you are in last place. Very similar to the fact he was in top half of the angels rotation. The hopeium in some of this fan base is getting as sad as this ownership.
Top half? He’s gonna be like our sixth starter lmao I think you’re just spoiled as a Sox fan. Look at who we already got in the rotation. Yall wanna have a super rotation it just doesn’t work that way
Great we got another guy who won't be able to pitch for most of the year and wasn't very good when he was pitching. LET'S GO RED SOX! LET'S GO RED SOX!!!! 💩 PS brilliant move because we've had so much success in the past signing guy's named Sandoval. 😂
It’s amazing how Chaim blooms style and Craig breslows style of running the team are almost identical. Breslow wasn’t an accidental hire by Henry and company. They hire guys who are perfectly fine with not spending and fielding a mediocre .500 team because it’s saves the owners cash and maximizes their profits.
@@jk11463 Trading for Crochett. Having a .500 team with so many injuries in 2024. Having a decent starting rotation in 2024. He did try to make trades at the deadline but they did not work out. Breslow has only been there for a year.
I hope I eat my words but it feels to me like the Red Sox didn't like how everyone was talking crap about them being cheap last year. So now they're making it out like "oh we're in the mix for all these big huge costly names," but they're not landing any of them. It cost nothing to offer the 2ed best contract, and it makes them look better....all the while they're bargin shopping. Idk😅
We’re turning into a hospital team. Paxton, Giolito, now Sandoval. I don’t like these deals because you are essentially hoping they come back from a major surgery and produce like they did. That rarely happens.
@ if they were acquired fully healthy then why haven’t they played much? Giolito didn’t have a single inning last season, and Vaughn apparently forgot how to play baseball while he was out.
@ he got injured in spring training after signing with the team and Grissom also got hurt during spring training but did play a few games for the Red Sox
@traci635 because we need someone mow!!! Too many ifs and buts and it's not impacting us til maybe 2nd half?? Remember Paxton? Please... Let's face it. Damaged goods..once again.. I'm done with this team...
I think most sox fans get upset at these deals because that's all they spend money on now. Is garbage or damaged players. Every year it's the same. It's because they're cheap. Bieber now this dude. When will they actually sign someone who's healthy and costs more. Probably never.
I hate moves like this. Sandoval has a high career walk and WHIP rate. And he can't help this year? Even if he returns to form, what is that form? A nearly 1.4 career WHIP? Can we please stop shooting ourselves in the foot from a PR perspective with these types of deflating moves that don't address current needs?
He also has a 4.03 ERA and coming off an injury....and still no right handed hitter, hoping that the rooks get better oh and no one to play 2nd base .....
they dont need that money for burnes. they were willing to pay soto over 700 million, which means that they could give burnes 300 million if he wanted regardless of this contract. the only question is on if they are willing to actually spend money to be a contender
I’ve gotten used to the fact that that way of thinking is OVER… the Theo and Dombrowski days are all over which really sucks but it’s not going to change any time soon… the Soto thing was fun but for a team that ways “all in” we still came up about 100 million off lol.. it’s who we are now and it’s sad, we got the good old day memories but any success we have moving forward will be like this, great but not as fun at all
This team disgusts me signing another pitcher who probably won’t pitch at all next year they are such a cheap organization now and this signing is proof that there full of shit once again disgraceful
The only person from the angels I want coming off an injury is f****** trout!! Lol He needs out of there and we need his bat! We give up O'Neill and have nothing coming back in yet hear all these talks about Santander and Hernandez but nothing is happening. And the longer we go the more it seems like last year and a year before whole lot of talk but nothing done
Yeah, right the a$$ again. As we all already knew by now. This ownership and any tool who takes the management jobs will NEVER commit to winning. Go ahead, Prove me wrong if you can!
Let’s face it, Corbin why don’t you talk about what the Yankees have done so far compared to the Red Sox and they were already better than the Red Sox. This is an insult to any fans with a half a brain.
Back to shopping in the discount bin... brother we don't care about "steals" and saving money at this point. Fans want to win NOW. Spend money, go get the best talent.
People, STOP buying tickets to their games (which also means concessions at the park). Stop buying their merchandise. Cancel your subscription to NESN. The Bruins aren't too much better anyway. The only way to stop thins is to dry them up financially. Then they'll either spend or sell. Selling the being the best option for us. Henry did this shit in Florida. But had less succsess because the fan base is not as dedicated as Boston. DRY THEM UP.
I’d rather have Pivetta. I think talking about Sandoval as a 2 is really optimistic . Maybe he can be a 3. More likely, coming back from injury you’re looking at 4/5. What are the chances he has greater than a 2 win season? 10%? Maybe a slight bump up with the pitching apparatus you have. I’d rather let him prove it over 2 years with another team and sign him if he shows you something, rather than setting 5-10m on fire every offseason with injured pitchers
It looks bad with the options still available and saying they were gonna go to or exceed the luxury tax. He could definitely produce, but why sign him now instead of bringing in a Buehler or Burnes first. Could work out, but still a lot needed before the off season is over.
But my point is they can STILL do that. I don’t really think the order in which they sign these guys really matters as long as they do something that is impacting opening day in the next *checks calender* 2 MONTHS!! If they dont then we have a bigger discussion
I have my opinions on andrew bailey too. I think he makes a positive and negative impact on pitchers in organizations. Hes a heavy breaking ball coach which does put wear and tear on arms. Lets stop thinking andrew bailey is an elite pitching coach. Hes good not great
I'm trying to understand why your saying this guy can be a front line starter. The numbers just don't say it. But he's left handed I guess that's the reason they got him!
Another bargain deal of an injured player. They have done this a lot with mixed results. The problem with injured players is they tend to get injured a lot.
Great signing if you had star players and a championship team already on the field… we don’t spend real money anymore and prob never will with John Henry owning this team… when we do eventually win it won’t be as fun as the past when we had stars… all we have is high end prospects to trade away instead of spending money, it’s a joke… basically we operate now to just get into the playoffs and hope for the best after that instead of instead of giving us the best possible chances of winning with a real playoff roster… this is who we are now it’s miserable compared to how things were in the “old days”
@@redseatradio no I wouldn’t hate it. It would still be fun, i’m just saying that aggressively adding star talent and forcing championships like you have a hunger for it (like we used too) is way more fun than trying to do it like this and luck into one
Yeah "We gonna spend this season" Untill they really spend money on really good players, this is going to be the season that is going to completley break me. I really can't keep supporting this team while Henry keeps being a cheap owner.
Seriously… just seriously.. 😒. Corbin Burnes is out there and we go. “Hmm a recovering pitcher from Tommy John. 8+ mil it is!!!!!” WE ARE GENIUSES!!! Ffs kill me…
I guess these geeks really care about stats…..not! This guy stinks and wont turn out to be anything but a body that took up roster space. What a waste of a signing
@@alesitercrimson24 I've been a fan since 2003, They know what this teams needs! And what are they doing? Breslow voice: (it would be a great idea if we sign injured players that nobody wants on this team, we got 700 million to invest but who cares)
Massive overpay for a marginal stiff. He's never been better than 3 games under .500. 2022 was his only "good year". He was forecasted at 5.5 million. Why would they pay 8+ million. That's insane. If your #3 is 2-8 you are headed for 95+ losses. This money could be spent better elsewhere.
All right...full transparency here...I don't follow other teams and their players the way I used to...when I saw this signing, I thought Sandoval was a guy coming back from the Korean league or something like that.... WOW...just when you think it couldn't possibly get worse...18 million to a pitcher who has next to no chance to contribute in 2025, but "fingers crossed for 2026!!!". The money that has been flushed on Paxton, Fullmer, Hendricks and now this feller... I work in the human service services field analyzing behavior through data and other tools. In 28 years of doing this, I've learned there one universal truth and that is " The best predictor of a person's future behavior is their past behavior". John Henry's "habit" of shopping at Family Dollar will not change unless something drastic forces his behavior to change- i.e., the real life consequence of fans not coming to games, not buying the merchandise, etc. Happy holidays fellow Red Sox fans!! Patrick Sandoval...make sure to rehab real hard...oh wait, it doesn't really matter, does it? Corbin, keep your chin up.
I was just thinking this today. It’s amazing how Chaim blooms style and Craig breslows style of running the team seem pretty much identical. Like, why fire bloom in the first place to just hire bloom 2.0 to replace him?
Maybe we should get some dollar general signs around Fenway Park because Henry likes shopping there so much. You are right though it is a decent upside pickup but they need to aim higher if they are going to contend.
I'm 50-50 on this move, but I do agree with you about if they add another starter, this would be fantastic. Now with Sandoval, I don't think they need to go after Burns... Sasaki or Buehler looks really good right about now! Plus Teoscar! Oh my!
Think about it. WHY would teoscar sign with the Sox? By all accounts he loved his time in LA and wants to give it another go with the dodgers. He just won a WS with them. LA is a team that does whatever necessary to field a winner. Meanwhile the Sox have been dysfunctional, without direction and clearly not interested in putting in fielding a competitive team. It’s been this way for years now. The Sox certainly aren’t going to outbid the dodgers. If you were teoscar what would you do?
@jk11463 Why so negative? I'm always optimistic. If I were Teoscar, of course I would sign with the RedSox! I'm a Sox fan! I don't think the Dodgers played up to their means, in the WS. The Yankees sucked a little bit more, plus couldn't catch the ball in game 5.
thats quite the way to spell corbin burnes lol. but fr tho why we gotta sign injury pitchers. its kinda a waste of money and waste of a roster spot for guys who are not gonna be here till the second half. if it works out then i’ll eat crow so it better pay off
Potential depth piece to fill the gap that Giolito leaves after his one season in Boston? Like I mentioned I very much like the current Red Sox rotation. I would like a bullpen arm and a right handed bat.
We definitely need more pitching but this isn’t what I had in mind! $18M for someone who regressed for a year and a half and then had Tommy John. Are we basically paying $18M for 2026?? So back to square one……it would be nice to have another top of the rotation pitcher who would be available starting in April and then we still need a closer and a strong lefty reliever. But we spent $18M on someone who will be at full strength for one season. What am I missing? I’m trying to be patient. Someone please explain.
As an Angel, on average, the defense behind Sandoval committed an error in 41% of his starts. All other Angel pitchers are between 15-20%. Defense was CONSISTENTLY trash while he was on the mound and got significantly better for EVERY other pitcher. Meanwhile Sandoval started MORE games than all other Angels pitchers in the last 5 years, including Ohtani. He worked his ass off for a falling franchise and I was ready for him to find somewhere new where he can reset.
This is Absurd!!! If they dont go out and get another quality SP and a power RH bat then i will not watch a single game this year! 😠 😡 Im sick of the empty promises and depleted lineup they throw out there for the last 4 years. Im DONE!!! enough is enough!! im losing my darn mind
Every year they do this. They should change the name of the team to Boston Reclamation Sox. Paxton, Giolito, Hendricks, Sandoval. A lot of wasted dollars
The move is fine, hopefully we can get a pitcher of high upside when he returns in 26. However I think most fans would rather see the team sign a player that can help this year and be an impact, this feels like what they have done over the last few seasons. Also it's another we did not hear about this until it was announced, at least they are consistent in that matter. Thanks for breaking that I am sure a lot of us would not have seen that one.
@@redseatradio No I didn't mean it was a bad move, I just meant wish they would do other moves besides this type. This still has a chance to be a really good move, just not for this season.
I have no issue with the deal as long as we don't miss out signing someone for 2025 because we are 9 million dollars short in what we are comfortable offering.
Never heard of him, so I looked up his numbers. A back of the rotation LH arm and not a sure thing. Ought to compete with guys like Criswell for the occasional start, as a replacement in case of injuries in 25-26. Meh...
They were willing to spend $700 million on Juan Soto. Why can't they spend less than that for Corbin Burns or Alex Bregman, instead of spending on a pitcher who can't help them until the season is half-over.
Breslow hAS FAILED!!! The best move he made was Crochet because he traded Blooms draft picks…. Breslow is a garbage money grubbing lackey for Henry who has abandoned RSN.
I will take Sandoval but I want Burnes too. Sandoval may prove to be a good add but we need someone also that can pitch right away. All that being said Sandoval is a good depth signing. We will see him in August/September probably.
I actually like deals like this. I think the Red Sox have a very young staff and I still think most will hit a wall but not bad as last year, even Crochet. So this adds a fresh arm in July or August. There also will be injuries. I am starting to wonder if when players arms start to go, their stats go bad first. There is nothing wrong to get high end pitchers and putting them on the IL. At the end of 2025 and in 2026, I think you are going to see high end minor plays ready to contribute. I still think they should add another starter and if they add a starter and Saki so much the better. Having high end pitchers that do not cost a lot is a good thing. It is better to have too much than too little. Paxton raved about the way the Red Sox treated him while he was recovering. That cannot do anything but help.
@@TheCybercoco You could be right but on this snowy day I want to be optimistic. I found out just now his surgery was in June so probably September at the earliest. But, he could be just like Hendricks.
Giolito, Fulmer, Hendricks and now Sandoval way to go Red Sox... these four guys can hold hands and eat peanuts while watching the game in the dugout. It looks like another losing season
The Red Sox also got a washing machine with this move! Just teasing, I do not mind this move. But I am worried that this means were out on Corbin, unless we are gonna trade Crawford.
I don’t blame Breslow. This is just like Bloom. Get players in the bargain bin so you can play just well enough to not lose your base, and at the same time build your minor league base. Hopefully we see some proof that this plan will work this year. Hopefully they don’t trade any more of the young stars-in-waiting!
Another sore-arm pitcher the Red Sox are so fond of... dreadful and disappointing. I'm tired of this but if you like the signing that's fine. I have no interest in arguing about this organization anymore.
I know Sox nation is thinking this..but yeah..maybe Boston will pick up somebody midseason 2025 as a rental if and when they prove themselves and are a true wildcard possibility... We've had dry spells at times in Red Sox history...and going into the 125th Boston season in 2025 I have to say I'm happy about that historical benchmark in and of itself.
What a horse shit move again by the brass… our locker room is basically a dollar general bargain bin! Sell the F-ing team already… full throttle, no throttle…. More like no pulse. Lost a lot of fans over the last few years and piss poor moves like this is exactly why.
Henry is almost 80 and doesn’t give a crap about the Red Sox. His 5 year plan is not to die.
This comment is criminally underappreciated.
😂
I can’t believe you’re even half excited about this guy
Cheap owners. Really fed up with the lying.
Hopefully this doesn't stop us from signing Paxton for the 10th time🤦
Maybe Rich Hill is available?
lol
Paxton won't be back. He retired but Rich Hill may be available.
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@@MrBacchus18hahaha, yeah, Rich "Over the" Hill.
You can sign Burns and compete for a championship or you can make a signing like this
More money saving moves from the garbage front office. Give out 20 million for a pitcher who will at best pitch next year half way thru. And when he does come back from over a year of not playing, you think he'll be pitching at the level he use to? Please, there's literally more talented pitchers who struggle coming back. Their staff can't stay healthy, and they keep signing high risk low reward scenarios. You paid Chris Sale to win the Cy Young for someone else. You paid Giolito to not pitch for you last year, and won't be ready until later this year. Paying a pitcher to not pitch for them is just par for the course. You guys say low risk high reward, this is not true. They are paying injured pitchers that take 2 years to get right instead of just paying a star what hes worth. You could of saved that near 60 million dollars that you gave to Giolito and Sandoval and actually paid for a stud.
Look at the Dodgers depth chart at the start of last season. They had like 10 stating pitchers and still ended throwing bullpen games in the playoffs. Teams need a LOT of depth and most decent starters are getting 20mil/year. This sets the Sox as a destination, which is a good thing because you can get great pitchers at a discount for a season ahead. They need to make more moves, but pretending they could've gotten 1 pitcher instead is really silly. They need *more* depth, NOT less.
@redmage08 he can't ever play this year. How's that helping your depth.
@@thrawn5k didnt realize 2025 was the final season of the Boston Red Sox, or the only one that they can plan for
If this is their only signing, I agree with you. Time will tell if it is.
They are not fooling anyone who has a working set of eyes and half a brain. Boston is well known for having discerning and knowledgeable fans. Who the hell is being fooled by this crap they put on the field.
If Sandoval is in the top half of your rotation you are in last place. Very similar to the fact he was in top half of the angels rotation. The hopeium in some of this fan base is getting as sad as this ownership.
yep
Top half? He’s gonna be like our sixth starter lmao I think you’re just spoiled as a Sox fan. Look at who we already got in the rotation. Yall wanna have a super rotation it just doesn’t work that way
Great we got another guy who won't be able to pitch for most of the year and wasn't very good when he was pitching. LET'S GO RED SOX! LET'S GO RED SOX!!!! 💩
PS brilliant move because we've had so much success in the past signing guy's named Sandoval. 😂
Bro you have too much faith in breslow, this is a Joke along with the rest of this off season
Yeah he definitely looks at the glass half full.. this is frustrating asf
This dude is DELUSIONAL what kind of Drugs is Red Sox Radio dude on. Or is he getting paid by Red Sox FSG to support their garbage signings? Joke.
why is Red Sox keep signing guys with TJ and not able to contribute straight away?
they're just trolling the fans at this point
Henry shopping in the dents and dings bargain bin again 😒
I guess they are back to been happy to be 2nd or 3rd country club stile.
Exactly. Why do this? I bet he pitches for a quarter of one season and that’s at the most
It’s amazing how Chaim blooms style and Craig breslows style of running the team are almost identical. Breslow wasn’t an accidental hire by Henry and company. They hire guys who are perfectly fine with not spending and fielding a mediocre .500 team because it’s saves the owners cash and maximizes their profits.
But Breslow is not afraid to get a deal done.
@@Bondagefetishstore what’s breslows big accomplishment (s) so far?
@@jk11463 Trading for Crochett. Having a .500 team with so many injuries in 2024. Having a decent starting rotation in 2024.
He did try to make trades at the deadline but they did not work out.
Breslow has only been there for a year.
I hope I eat my words but it feels to me like the Red Sox didn't like how everyone was talking crap about them being cheap last year. So now they're making it out like "oh we're in the mix for all these big huge costly names," but they're not landing any of them. It cost nothing to offer the 2ed best contract, and it makes them look better....all the while they're bargin shopping. Idk😅
They've been doing it for 3 years.
Wow I'm blown away we signed a garbage guy the Kansas city royals wouldn't even care about. Our management and ownership sucks
We’re turning into a hospital team. Paxton, Giolito, now Sandoval. I don’t like these deals because you are essentially hoping they come back from a major surgery and produce like they did. That rarely happens.
Not even to mention Vaughn Grissom which is turning into a terrible trade.
How are you going to include Giolito and Grissom who were both acquired full healthy
paxton retired
@ if they were acquired fully healthy then why haven’t they played much? Giolito didn’t have a single inning last season, and Vaughn apparently forgot how to play baseball while he was out.
@ he got injured in spring training after signing with the team and Grissom also got hurt during spring training but did play a few games for the Red Sox
I don't like this dumpster dive deal.
Even Hendricks still scares me..
I'm sick of same ole bull crapoy deals.
Why? This guy is a true no risk signing and if he comes back healthy, we got a steal....its a smart business deal....no dumpster diving here.....
@traci635 because we need someone mow!!!
Too many ifs and buts and it's not impacting us til maybe 2nd half??
Remember Paxton? Please...
Let's face it.
Damaged goods..once again..
I'm done with this team...
Relax buddy. The offseason is not over yet lmao. And now look, we signed Buehler who pitched shutouts in the World Series
I think most sox fans get upset at these deals because that's all they spend money on now. Is garbage or damaged players. Every year it's the same. It's because they're cheap. Bieber now this dude. When will they actually sign someone who's healthy and costs more. Probably never.
I hate moves like this. Sandoval has a high career walk and WHIP rate. And he can't help this year? Even if he returns to form, what is that form? A nearly 1.4 career WHIP? Can we please stop shooting ourselves in the foot from a PR perspective with these types of deflating moves that don't address current needs?
He also has a 4.03 ERA and coming off an injury....and still no right handed hitter, hoping that the rooks get better oh and no one to play 2nd base .....
@Aaliyahdaniels1212 Red Sox are in negotiations with Dustin Pedroia ! ! !
Red Sox playing chess against themselves.
Made me laugh... 🤣
Chess??? Their playing with their peckers while teams who really want to win sign real baseball players.
This is a complete piss take by Henry and the other front office goons
So what’s the point ?! He’s not going to play till the second half!!! We could use that money for burns! What is the Red Sox doing …….
same as the last 5 years, putting a mediocre team so they can say "We tried"
It’s a redsox thing😂
they dont need that money for burnes. they were willing to pay soto over 700 million, which means that they could give burnes 300 million if he wanted regardless of this contract. the only question is on if they are willing to actually spend money to be a contender
I’ve gotten used to the fact that that way of thinking is OVER… the Theo and Dombrowski days are all over which really sucks but it’s not going to change any time soon… the Soto thing was fun but for a team that ways “all in” we still came up about 100 million off lol.. it’s who we are now and it’s sad, we got the good old day memories but any success we have moving forward will be like this, great but not as fun at all
Or….you could just sign both…?
This team disgusts me signing another pitcher who probably won’t pitch at all next year they are such a cheap organization now and this signing is proof that there full of shit once again disgraceful
He’s a legit 4-5. And who knows if he ever throws a pitch. More garbage.
The only person from the angels I want coming off an injury is f****** trout!! Lol He needs out of there and we need his bat! We give up O'Neill and have nothing coming back in yet hear all these talks about Santander and Hernandez but nothing is happening. And the longer we go the more it seems like last year and a year before whole lot of talk but nothing done
It's taken you this long to figure out that this was going to happen? People, wake up.
Full throttle baby 🚀
Feel the title getting closer, don’t you! 😂😂.
@@michaelpagano7819 lol yes
@@pitcherboston let’s get Rendon next! While we are at it!! Let’s just make an injured to f*** team!
lol 😂
Yeah, right the a$$ again. As we all already knew by now. This ownership and any tool who takes the management jobs will NEVER commit to winning. Go ahead, Prove me wrong if you can!
Let’s face it, Corbin why don’t you talk about what the Yankees have done so far compared to the Red Sox and they were already better than the Red Sox. This is an insult to any fans with a half a brain.
Back to shopping in the discount bin... brother we don't care about "steals" and saving money at this point. Fans want to win NOW. Spend money, go get the best talent.
People, STOP buying tickets to their games (which also means concessions at the park). Stop buying their merchandise. Cancel your subscription to NESN. The Bruins aren't too much better anyway. The only way to stop thins is to dry them up financially. Then they'll either spend or sell. Selling the being the best option for us. Henry did this shit in Florida. But had less succsess because the fan base is not as dedicated as Boston. DRY THEM UP.
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I’d rather have Pivetta. I think talking about Sandoval as a 2 is really optimistic . Maybe he can be a 3. More likely, coming back from injury you’re looking at 4/5. What are the chances he has greater than a 2 win season? 10%? Maybe a slight bump up with the pitching apparatus you have. I’d rather let him prove it over 2 years with another team and sign him if he shows you something, rather than setting 5-10m on fire every offseason with injured pitchers
It’s kinda funny how the Sox are more likely to pay someone to do NOTHING for 1/4 of their contract than they are to pay someone to actually play.
Yeah I'm not impressed yet why aren't we going after burns . We need another ace pickup.
It looks bad with the options still available and saying they were gonna go to or exceed the luxury tax. He could definitely produce, but why sign him now instead of bringing in a Buehler or Burnes first. Could work out, but still a lot needed before the off season is over.
But my point is they can STILL do that. I don’t really think the order in which they sign these guys really matters as long as they do something that is impacting opening day in the next *checks calender* 2 MONTHS!! If they dont then we have a bigger discussion
I'm getting sick of this garbage front office. What are they doing!!!
I have my opinions on andrew bailey too. I think he makes a positive and negative impact on pitchers in organizations. Hes a heavy breaking ball coach which does put wear and tear on arms. Lets stop thinking andrew bailey is an elite pitching coach. Hes good not great
I was Pissed 😡 with the medical staff when Raffy basically broke his finger and they acted like it was nothing and they left him in
I'm trying to understand why your saying this guy can be a front line starter. The numbers just don't say it. But he's left handed I guess that's the reason they got him!
This guy was a 4th or 5th starter on a bad team....when healthy.
Another bargain deal of an injured player. They have done this a lot with mixed results. The problem with injured players is they tend to get injured a lot.
The Railroad Salvage Sox!
Great signing if you had star players and a championship team already on the field… we don’t spend real money anymore and prob never will with John Henry owning this team… when we do eventually win it won’t be as fun as the past when we had stars… all we have is high end prospects to trade away instead of spending money, it’s a joke… basically we operate now to just get into the playoffs and hope for the best after that instead of instead of giving us the best possible chances of winning with a real playoff roster… this is who we are now it’s miserable compared to how things were in the “old days”
right yea I am sure we would all hate a World Series win cause they only have 1 300+ million dollar player. Come on man
@@redseatradio no I wouldn’t hate it. It would still be fun, i’m just saying that aggressively adding star talent and forcing championships like you have a hunger for it (like we used too) is way more fun than trying to do it like this and luck into one
Yeah "We gonna spend this season" Untill they really spend money on really good players, this is going to be the season that is going to completley break me. I really can't keep supporting this team while Henry keeps being a cheap owner.
Okay then just wait
@@redseatradio Go Baltimore and Yankees ! ! ! ! !
What if they like our current rotation and dont expect to add to it?
Seriously… just seriously.. 😒. Corbin Burnes is out there and we go. “Hmm a recovering pitcher from Tommy John. 8+ mil it is!!!!!” WE ARE GENIUSES!!! Ffs kill me…
might be the worst offseason of all time, as there is no reason not to spend and we aren't even close to the luxury tax.
If Boston wants to win the world series, they will pony up the money to sign Burnes. If they don't, they won't. It's as simple as that.
I guess these geeks really care about stats…..not! This guy stinks and wont turn out to be anything but a body that took up roster space. What a waste of a signing
Man! WTF? I think I'm gonna go as a dodgers fan... I'm done with the Red Sox
okay
Well bye
Then you were never a fan. You dont just support the best team lol 😂
@@alesitercrimson24 I've been a fan since 2003, They know what this teams needs! And what are they doing? Breslow voice: (it would be a great idea if we sign injured players that nobody wants on this team, we got 700 million to invest but who cares)
And Remember!...They're going after Nick Pivetta..
I guess im not going to worry about it until he healthy and takes the mound, still go get Burnes.
I feel like I like this move a lot, now I feel like we need a seasoned vet in Buehler and I feel like I’m pretty comfortable with the rotation
Yeah you get someone else this move looks great
My sentiments exactly!
This signing is a joke. He also waste of a roster spot. Do they really think we're that dumb of a fan base?
I swear, your comment section makes my head explode every time. You're stronger than me Corbin.
Same man. Bunch of whiny losers.
Okay it's another one of those hope it works out. Thanks Corbin!
To hell with this cheap bottom feeding team.
Massive overpay for a marginal stiff. He's never been better than 3 games under .500. 2022 was his only "good year". He was forecasted at 5.5 million. Why would they pay 8+ million. That's insane. If your #3 is 2-8 you are headed for 95+ losses. This money could be spent better elsewhere.
I actually like this signing. This is obviously a head start for 2026 there's nothing wrong with that. Now Breslow move on to getting better for 2025!
All right...full transparency here...I don't follow other teams and their players the way I used to...when I saw this signing, I thought Sandoval was a guy coming back from the Korean league or something like that.... WOW...just when you think it couldn't possibly get worse...18 million to a pitcher who has next to no chance to contribute in 2025, but "fingers crossed for 2026!!!". The money that has been flushed on Paxton, Fullmer, Hendricks and now this feller... I work in the human service services field analyzing behavior through data and other tools. In 28 years of doing this, I've learned there one universal truth and that is " The best predictor of a person's future behavior is their past behavior". John Henry's "habit" of shopping at Family Dollar will not change unless something drastic forces his behavior to change- i.e., the real life consequence of fans not coming to games, not buying the merchandise, etc. Happy holidays fellow Red Sox fans!! Patrick Sandoval...make sure to rehab real hard...oh wait, it doesn't really matter, does it? Corbin, keep your chin up.
Is Chaim Bloom still running the team? Seems like one of his deals. Big market teams don’t need to make moves like this.
I was just thinking this today. It’s amazing how Chaim blooms style and Craig breslows style of running the team seem pretty much identical. Like, why fire bloom in the first place to just hire bloom 2.0 to replace him?
This is a depth move for the future. Doesn't really move the needle. Until they make more impactful moves, these moves will continue to be annoying.
Maybe we should get some dollar general signs around Fenway Park because Henry likes shopping there so much. You are right though it is a decent upside pickup but they need to aim higher if they are going to contend.
I hope for my sake, this isn’t considered the next big acquisition 😂
It tells me they are giving up on 2025
2025 isn't supposed to be a championship season. Never was. They are building a young core of guys coming up
Is the Glass Boy Sale syndrome, Paxton, Giolitto,etc😂😂😂😂
I'm 50-50 on this move, but I do agree with you about if they add another starter, this would be fantastic. Now with Sandoval, I don't think they need to go after Burns... Sasaki or Buehler looks really good right about now! Plus Teoscar! Oh my!
Think about it. WHY would teoscar sign with the Sox? By all accounts he loved his time in LA and wants to give it another go with the dodgers. He just won a WS with them. LA is a team that does whatever necessary to field a winner. Meanwhile the Sox have been dysfunctional, without direction and clearly not interested in putting in fielding a competitive team. It’s been this way for years now. The Sox certainly aren’t going to outbid the dodgers. If you were teoscar what would you do?
@jk11463 Why so negative? I'm always optimistic. If I were Teoscar, of course I would sign with the RedSox! I'm a Sox fan! I don't think the Dodgers played up to their means, in the WS. The Yankees sucked a little bit more, plus couldn't catch the ball in game 5.
@@dkshdw2004 😂 okay……..
thats quite the way to spell corbin burnes lol. but fr tho why we gotta sign injury pitchers. its kinda a waste of money and waste of a roster spot for guys who are not gonna be here till the second half. if it works out then i’ll eat crow so it better pay off
Cheap money
Potential depth piece to fill the gap that Giolito leaves after his one season in Boston? Like I mentioned I very much like the current Red Sox rotation. I would like a bullpen arm and a right handed bat.
Watched Sandoval a bit too closely thanks to fantasy baseball.. Absolutely love the upside of this signing. I believe he will produce.
I hope so too!
We definitely need more pitching but this isn’t what I had in mind! $18M for someone who regressed for a year and a half and then had Tommy John. Are we basically paying $18M for 2026?? So back to square one……it would be nice to have another top of the rotation pitcher who would be available starting in April and then we still need a closer and a strong lefty reliever. But we spent $18M on someone who will be at full strength for one season. What am I missing? I’m trying to be patient. Someone please explain.
Nice depth piece. Perhaps he could be used out of the pen in second half. But need another starter or high leverage reliever.
What’s next … Rich Hill going to unretire again.
Did he actually retire?
It's ok that's about it. Back to waiting patiently mode.
Yeah kind of
As an Angel, on average, the defense behind Sandoval committed an error in 41% of his starts. All other Angel pitchers are between 15-20%. Defense was CONSISTENTLY trash while he was on the mound and got significantly better for EVERY other pitcher. Meanwhile Sandoval started MORE games than all other Angels pitchers in the last 5 years, including Ohtani. He worked his ass off for a falling franchise and I was ready for him to find somewhere new where he can reset.
This is Absurd!!! If they dont go out and get another quality SP and a power RH bat then i will not watch a single game this year! 😠 😡 Im sick of the empty promises and depleted lineup they throw out there for the last 4 years. Im DONE!!! enough is enough!! im losing my darn mind
Im on the fence...basically this does nothing for 2025..could be amazing for 2026 but I know I want to see some significant improvement in 2025.
Every year they do this. They should change the name of the team to Boston Reclamation Sox.
Paxton, Giolito, Hendricks, Sandoval. A lot of wasted dollars
Giolito was signed fully healthy
Great so we got a mid-season trade for a long reliever……. No prospects only money…. Now Sox need to get another Starter…..
Yeah
The move is fine, hopefully we can get a pitcher of high upside when he returns in 26. However I think most fans would rather see the team sign a player that can help this year and be an impact, this feels like what they have done over the last few seasons. Also it's another we did not hear about this until it was announced, at least they are consistent in that matter. Thanks for breaking that I am sure a lot of us would not have seen that one.
Of course they would. But that doesn’t make this a bad move. It’s not like the offseason ends tomorrow
@@redseatradio No I didn't mean it was a bad move, I just meant wish they would do other moves besides this type. This still has a chance to be a really good move, just not for this season.
I have no issue with the deal as long as we don't miss out signing someone for 2025 because we are 9 million dollars short in what we are comfortable offering.
Never heard of him, so I looked up his numbers. A back of the rotation LH arm and not a sure thing. Ought to compete with guys like Criswell for the occasional start, as a replacement in case of injuries in 25-26. Meh...
You know what will piss off the Red Sox fans? Boston expressing a second shot with Nick Pivetta.
Chapman and Sandoval total paycheck for 2025 could get us an excellent closer.
A injured starter what a joke . I’m done
They were willing to spend $700 million on Juan Soto. Why can't they spend less than that for Corbin Burns or Alex Bregman, instead of spending on a pitcher who can't help them until the season is half-over.
Breslow hAS FAILED!!! The best move he made was Crochet because he traded Blooms draft picks…. Breslow is a garbage money grubbing lackey for Henry who has abandoned RSN.
I will take Sandoval but I want Burnes too. Sandoval may prove to be a good add but we need someone also that can pitch right away. All that being said Sandoval is a good depth signing. We will see him in August/September probably.
They keep on signing injured players.
Patrick Sandoval played 6 seasons for the Angels, 19 wins, 45 losses, holy crap! 😒
Lets hope he has better luck in Boston than he did previously!
I actually like deals like this. I think the Red Sox have a very young staff and I still think most will hit a wall but not bad as last year, even Crochet. So this adds a fresh arm in July or August. There also will be injuries.
I am starting to wonder if when players arms start to go, their stats go bad first.
There is nothing wrong to get high end pitchers and putting them on the IL. At the end of 2025 and in 2026, I think you are going to see high end minor plays ready to contribute.
I still think they should add another starter and if they add a starter and Saki so much the better. Having high end pitchers that do not cost a lot is a good thing. It is better to have too much than too little.
Paxton raved about the way the Red Sox treated him while he was recovering. That cannot do anything but help.
You're optimistic. This deal won't bear any kind of fruit until sometime in '26. No doubt about it.
@@TheCybercoco You could be right but on this snowy day I want to be optimistic. I found out just now his surgery was in June so probably September at the earliest. But, he could be just like Hendricks.
Dumb typical Red Sox move
How is it dumb
Giolito, Fulmer, Hendricks and now Sandoval way to go Red Sox... these four guys can hold hands and eat peanuts while watching the game in the dugout. It looks like another losing season
The Red Sox also got a washing machine with this move! Just teasing, I do not mind this move. But I am worried that this means were out on Corbin, unless we are gonna trade Crawford.
Corbin It's just more of the same that keeps the sox at the bottom.
I don’t blame Breslow. This is just like Bloom. Get players in the bargain bin so you can play just well enough to not lose your base, and at the same time build your minor league base. Hopefully we see some proof that this plan will work this year. Hopefully they don’t trade any more of the young stars-in-waiting!
The fit was fire today bro
Hey thanks man
Another sore-arm pitcher the Red Sox are so fond of... dreadful and disappointing. I'm tired of this but if you like the signing that's fine. I have no interest in arguing about this organization anymore.
Gosh, I think at this point the best plan for long-range, sustained success is to start winning, like, now.
I know Sox nation is thinking this..but yeah..maybe Boston will pick up somebody midseason 2025 as a rental if and when they prove themselves and are a true wildcard possibility...
We've had dry spells at times in Red Sox history...and going into the 125th Boston season in 2025 I have to say I'm happy about that historical benchmark in and of itself.
enough, spend some money Were not the Tampa Bay rays. sign someone you can slot into the rotation day one.
What a horse shit move again by the brass… our locker room is basically a dollar general bargain bin! Sell the F-ing team already… full throttle, no throttle…. More like no pulse. Lost a lot of fans over the last few years and piss poor moves like this is exactly why.