@@Zimster if they braced, they will turn if enemies come from other direction. I have had experience that Monastic (not fully maxed) charged my halberdier sergent from their back, i lose 1/3 of the unit, since they turned just before the monastic collided, still they entirely stopped the charge. Also, i fight them with asaps, i charge them from the back and another condo guards charge them in the front, they killed both of our units. So from my point of view, they are strong while bracing, considering how the bracing of other pikes were nerfed. However, it is also true that they have no function in pushing a line, and not good at dealing with hero while bracing also. Once short sword / hammer broke their formation, they basically lose 50% of their functions, but it is the same as the fortoes.
why noobody thinks about serf max lvl is 10 and woodcutters 12 on max lvl woodcutters have more defense stats more dmg and more hp what is about thinkg ?
This guy is fucking clueless, only way to learn what units are good is to play the game. Men at arms are a pretty good unit overall. Their upgraded version is better of course but they are miles away from garbage
you don't use squires once you have condottieri and you don't use men at arms once you have paladins. For the same reason spear sergeants should go to not worth it since compared to stalwarts they are laughably bad.
How are serfs not OP? What other unit deserves 5 to 6 of your barracks space? Do you love paying double for your purple horses? Their influence transcends matches and carries over to all aspects of Conqueror's blade for the better.
@@Zimster I unironically run them alongside hammerbros and woodcutter when I am feeling bloodthirsty with a heavy heroic/golden unit lineup. As much as woodcutters can punch above their weight class, serfs do beat them, and most of the early trash units so they overperform for their leadership cost. But, my rebuttal is that they are strategically OP if not tactically OP. Aiko only requires you to get two sets of kheshigs, I would venture to guess most of them devote 5 spaces to serfs for the prestige grind on CC.
@@Zimster You have to put up some blue doctrines, let them charge into each other. The heals is what makes them win out. WC big point is their large atk pen, serfs got no armor to pen to speak of and they both almost have 6k hp.
Is there a Ranged unit tier list coming as well in the future? if not what would you recomend as my 2nd purple unit to unlock with path of wisdom free unlock? (other than Imperial Pikes)
@@Zimster Looking forward to it, this is my 3rd day playing and I am very much enjoying the game. Thank you very much for the tips and info in this video. Can't wait for the Ranged tier list. xD
Forte are OP, you have to decide based upon what the unit can achieve in the right hands. Forte might have a weakness in mobility, but nothing touches them when it comes to pure damage, Imp pikes are not for the same thing, different strengths, one is a spot holding defensive unit, the other is a offensive unit.
@@Zimster on top of that the vast majority of players are just lazy to micromanage their units correctly and will keep on doing the basic or common mistakes + tactics. Almost no one thinks out of the box for new ways of improving or playing
My question to you is aren’t their better units for everything the IRs can do? Charge - mounted units, Heal - Paladins, speed - everything like what advantage do they have except wall control? Which can be done with azaps or Silhadars
tenant farmers good for resources like serfs, can stack serfs, tenant farmers, with two other ones i cant remember the name with one good unit to max farming resources
I cant relate at all to why Iron Reapers are not worth in your opinion im using them reguraly and im quite often KD ratio up to 9.0 and kill several heroes with them when im supporting reapers from behind with muskete to me they are definitly minimaly meta
@@AlastorCreations what really, I like javs for field battles but that’s awesome. I do love reapers but with all the counters to it I have to retire them for now
If i may make a suggestion for future tier lists i would add another tier between filler and not worth called redundant. Because some purple or blue units may be usable but still be overshadowed by other units. As for the tierlist itself i think you overrate the paladins by a lot, i would put them balanced, maybe meta. The pike militia i would place at OP considering they are the only green (and most of blue) unit that really hits well against purple/ gold units. And i wonder how well tseregs would do against paladins/ stalwarts since they supposedly do well against shields. i dont have them yet so idk
At different levels of the game I can see why you think that. Most people know how to counter pike militia. Paladins played correctly can be very devastating
I agree with the list Except for the prefecture pikes which with the 25% increase in charge damage on nodes can easily kills heroes and 30-40 units on a good charge. Would say they are balanced since they cant do shit against stalwarts, azaps or imp pike for obvious defensive reasons. They really fck all other units even sildahars and paladins they do huge dmg to.
Imp pikes are definitely not OP, if you think that you are crazy, being the only good counter to cavs tells more about cavs than them being overpowered
My man got the beer on yt anyway. Hell yeah Just a thing, why don't you like the reapers? You can litteraly counter charge 2 cav charges and you kill the cav. They need a big big buff but not worth barrack slot is a bit harsh.
@@Zimster yeah, agreed. It's still fun to kill 16 full hp reapers who think they're slick charging into ur back. Surprise surprise i advance 10 imp pikes and they vanish within a sec. That's BS
Hmmm, that's interesting, 2 of my favorite units Men at arms and Squires are in the not worth tier? I think I do pretty well with them. I'm curious as to why you think that? Also I disagree with you on the Imp pike guards being OP. They are very OP in some situation but also very meh in others so I overall think they are a very solid Meta unit that can be OP but overall isn't. Also the fact that only 2 units can reliably stop cavs is a problem with cavs.
Would you mind to put the tier list in the description of this video? I'm a new player, names are hard to read in this resolution. Otherwise great video, thanks alot!
Trust me I wanted to put them there, but issue is they can’t do much to shields and ranged unless u can sneak up on them. But by far one of my fav units!
@@Zimster true... unless you as hero can breach a shield wall (did that so many times ... and then force pikes in with X... and then press 1 .... and see the mayhem and slaughter start ;) Ranged, yeah i give you that ...its their achillesheel Everytime i pick em i smile and hope its a good pike day... becasue they always perform average to good... but sometimes they perform epic ;)
@@Zimster especially... when after they ran up and die, you quickly retreat youre unit to a safe place... the moment they lauch a treb on the tower to deal with you.... but ONLY hit their friendly units chasing my pike militia ;)
Great video like all other tier videos :) Really help full for a returning player like me. I just have to Ask How to you define your ranks. I dont understand and the ranks makes No sense to me probably because the words Doesnt mean the same to me. I mean for me a balanced is right that is where a unit is supposed to be. It does What its designed to do and the cost of it is just right for There usefulness. Meta are units that are really really strong and a Most have almost to be successful. And OP is a Wierd rank To have since all OP units is Meta Aswell. OP rank would be a unit that is broken in the positive way. But that unit is Meta aswell. Say like This If cav gets a huge nerf next Patch all piké or Will fall out of meta or OP rank since They are a used as a specific counter for the meta and the Meta changes. Not sure i make any sense just wanted to share it any way :p
Check my new Infantry Tier List video. I explain a bit more in that one how we ranked them. Also ranks are easier to understand. I hope that helps. Welcome back to the game!
I agree. Now that forte are useless reapers just reap. I am killing like paladins and spear units like cutting through butter without loosing a single unit. And people underestimating them are getting rekt by sitting in front of the charge. Indeed they are weak to cav and range but that makes them balanced.
Alright i have to say this! Iron Reapers are definitely Meta and i apologize to all the IR lovers out there! I used them for a deathball strategy to take Vaja and worked perfect against stalwarts!
great vid waiting for ranged units tier list !
Next week, I will announce when on my discord and stream
Halberdier sergents stop all kind of calvs in F2 formation for sure. No pikes can stop 1+ calv charges from back to back.
I noticed they rotate to where the target is also, that can helpful or hurt them sometimes. Is that f1 formation?
@@Zimster if they braced, they will turn if enemies come from other direction. I have had experience that Monastic (not fully maxed) charged my halberdier sergent from their back, i lose 1/3 of the unit, since they turned just before the monastic collided, still they entirely stopped the charge. Also, i fight them with asaps, i charge them from the back and another condo guards charge them in the front, they killed both of our units. So from my point of view, they are strong while bracing, considering how the bracing of other pikes were nerfed. However, it is also true that they have no function in pushing a line, and not good at dealing with hero while bracing also. Once short sword / hammer broke their formation, they basically lose 50% of their functions, but it is the same as the fortoes.
why noobody thinks about serf max lvl is 10 and woodcutters 12 on max lvl woodcutters have more defense stats more dmg and more hp what is about thinkg ?
I still use woodcutters all the time
Wait, Squires and Men-at-Arms are "Not Worth Barracks Slot"? They're my go to units! D:
This guy is fucking clueless, only way to learn what units are good is to play the game. Men at arms are a pretty good unit overall. Their upgraded version is better of course but they are miles away from garbage
you don't use squires once you have condottieri and you don't use men at arms once you have paladins. For the same reason spear sergeants should go to not worth it since compared to stalwarts they are laughably bad.
How are serfs not OP? What other unit deserves 5 to 6 of your barracks space? Do you love paying double for your purple horses? Their influence transcends matches and carries over to all aspects of Conqueror's blade for the better.
In the gathering world they are OP not going to lie but that’s about it lol
@@Zimster I unironically run them alongside hammerbros and woodcutter when I am feeling bloodthirsty with a heavy heroic/golden unit lineup. As much as woodcutters can punch above their weight class, serfs do beat them, and most of the early trash units so they overperform for their leadership cost. But, my rebuttal is that they are strategically OP if not tactically OP. Aiko only requires you to get two sets of kheshigs, I would venture to guess most of them devote 5 spaces to serfs for the prestige grind on CC.
@@Ogema-1 your saying serfs will survive a woodcutters charge? I need to test this. I honestly never tested it
@@Zimster You have to put up some blue doctrines, let them charge into each other. The heals is what makes them win out. WC big point is their large atk pen, serfs got no armor to pen to speak of and they both almost have 6k hp.
Wood Cutters(Wooden Reapers) beat Iron Reapers
Is there a Ranged unit tier list coming as well in the future? if not what would you recomend as my 2nd purple unit to unlock with path of wisdom free unlock? (other than Imperial Pikes)
Ranged list coming this week
@@Zimster Looking forward to it, this is my 3rd day playing and I am very much enjoying the game. Thank you very much for the tips and info in this video. Can't wait for the Ranged tier list. xD
@@cryptgaming5537 welcome and enjoy 😁
Forte are OP, you have to decide based upon what the unit can achieve in the right hands. Forte might have a weakness in mobility, but nothing touches them when it comes to pure damage, Imp pikes are not for the same thing, different strengths, one is a spot holding defensive unit, the other is a offensive unit.
Check out maxed halb sergs. They do about same dmg. Just fortes have better formations
@@Zimster I have them both max, Forte is significantly more damage.
Like you said matters who’s using them, I can use forts for offense and defensive. Same with imp pikes. All comes down situational knowledge
I'm top 1 in SA server and Iron Reapers are meta in Season 5. They came back to the game thanks to the shield and paladin spam
Only issue I have is they can’t stop cav and get hard countered by imp pikes
@@Zimster CB is a paper, rock and scissors game. No unit is ment to counter all other type of units
@@Zimster on top of that the vast majority of players are just lazy to micromanage their units correctly and will keep on doing the basic or common mistakes + tactics.
Almost no one thinks out of the box for new ways of improving or playing
My question to you is aren’t their better units for everything the IRs can do? Charge - mounted units, Heal - Paladins, speed - everything like what advantage do they have except wall control? Which can be done with azaps or Silhadars
tenant farmers good for resources like serfs, can stack serfs, tenant farmers, with two other ones i cant remember the name with one good unit to max farming resources
What's so bad about reapers? Do people not know how to use the flail?
Too many hard counters, hail the flail bra
@@Zimster Hard counters like what? Also I'm the guy that's been calling you father shortbow
@@shamthe2nd705 haha, I like the nickname. Imp pikes, silhadars, and cav counter iron reapers
Zimster idk me and my house kinda disagree with the reapers, but most of the tier list is agreeable
Imperial Pikemen is that imperial pike guards?
Yes
I got a 515 unit kill game with stalwarts getting 400 of them
They are super strong right now!
Are some of them special?
Are what special?
@@Zimster I think he's referring to the units not being available in the unit tree like Azaps or Stalwarts
Yes, some of the units you can only get from seasonal unit challenges in the f5 menu
My unit is only level 18 and i can't upgrade it. WHY?
You must unlock the stalwarts on the season challenges
I cant relate at all to why Iron Reapers are not worth in your opinion im using them reguraly and im quite often KD ratio up to 9.0 and kill several heroes with them when im supporting reapers from behind with muskete to me they are definitly minimaly meta
What level are you seasonal and character? Because iron reapers are not meta for TW or sieges usually in NA
@@Zimster Im char level 96 season 78 and yeah I dont use them for TW or siege too much I have most success with them in field battles
@@AlastorCreations what really, I like javs for field battles but that’s awesome. I do love reapers but with all the counters to it I have to retire them for now
@@Zimster I have yet to try javs
@@AlastorCreations you’ll love em, their great
I love the the loud "paladins" XD
is it jsut me or do i not see half of these units??
Check older seasons, go to f5 menu, unit challenges them change seasons in the top left
If i may make a suggestion for future tier lists i would add another tier between filler and not worth called redundant. Because some purple or blue units may be usable but still be overshadowed by other units.
As for the tierlist itself i think you overrate the paladins by a lot, i would put them balanced, maybe meta. The pike militia i would place at OP considering they are the only green (and most of blue) unit that really hits well against purple/ gold units. And i wonder how well tseregs would do against paladins/ stalwarts since they supposedly do well against shields. i dont have them yet so idk
At different levels of the game I can see why you think that. Most people know how to counter pike militia. Paladins played correctly can be very devastating
Also I like your idea of the redundancy geoup
I agree with the list Except for the prefecture pikes which with the 25% increase in charge damage on nodes can easily kills heroes and 30-40 units on a good charge. Would say they are balanced since they cant do shit against stalwarts, azaps or imp pike for obvious defensive reasons. They really fck all other units even sildahars and paladins they do huge dmg to.
where are new units like zykalian militia and siphanari
Those are ranged units, this is infantry only
i hope for this video THX i like to see weapon tier list in next
Many more to come!
Imp pikes are definitely not OP, if you think that you are crazy, being the only good counter to cavs tells more about cavs than them being overpowered
They hard counter all infantry also except stalwarts and paladins that includes iron reapers and Silhadars, you don’t think that’s op?
My man got the beer on yt anyway. Hell yeah
Just a thing, why don't you like the reapers?
You can litteraly counter charge 2 cav charges and you kill the cav.
They need a big big buff but not worth barrack slot is a bit harsh.
That’s apple juice 😂 😉
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I love reapers but I won’t use them, too expensive and other units counter easy
@@Zimster yeah, agreed. It's still fun to kill 16 full hp reapers who think they're slick charging into ur back. Surprise surprise i advance 10 imp pikes and they vanish within a sec. That's BS
@@boazd8622 they need to fix that bug
I would swap IR and Siladah. Siladah r too slow and squishy, no one afraid of them. Without charge, archer will just kite them
Yeah I can see that but in the right hands silhdars are scary
Hmmm, that's interesting, 2 of my favorite units Men at arms and Squires are in the not worth tier? I think I do pretty well with them. I'm curious as to why you think that? Also I disagree with you on the Imp pike guards being OP. They are very OP in some situation but also very meh in others so I overall think they are a very solid Meta unit that can be OP but overall isn't. Also the fact that only 2 units can reliably stop cavs is a problem with cavs.
Main reason imp pikes are OP is that they can stop iron reapers and hussars. No other unit can do that. Men at arms are tanks but have no dmg output
I personaly use demesne javelins as a ranged unit. In meele theyre sux
Most javs are used as ranged units. They are in infantry though
@@Zimster yeah that is true.Thanks for replying:
Would you mind to put the tier list in the description of this video? I'm a new player, names are hard to read in this resolution. Otherwise great video, thanks alot!
You can find the tier list on my Twitter and on my discord
tiermaker.com/list/random/conquerors-blade---infantry-tier-list-661300/941429
If there is anything that needs to be nerfed is maul
Maul is a beast of its own agreed
Why do u think maul is that strong ? (I've started to play yesterday)
@@ravache5660 it’s the only class that ignores shield block with normal skills and it can take players out of fights wiyh it ult
@@Zimster Thanks for the answer !
By the way, since i've just started playing this game, which units do you recommend me to rush asap ?
@@ravache5660 pike militia, spear sergs, and imp pikes
Kreigsrat Fusiliers destroy imperial pikemen in my experience,
No argument there, most ranged do well against pikes
pike militia CAN kill stop a monastic charge.. .and kill quite a few ;) so should be OP .... for their leadership cost
Trust me I wanted to put them there, but issue is they can’t do much to shields and ranged unless u can sneak up on them. But by far one of my fav units!
@@Zimster true... unless you as hero can breach a shield wall (did that so many times ... and then force pikes in with X... and then press 1 .... and see the mayhem and slaughter start ;)
Ranged, yeah i give you that ...its their achillesheel
Everytime i pick em i smile and hope its a good pike day... becasue they always perform average to good... but sometimes they perform epic ;)
@@roelven1282 That great feeling of watching the enemy run all their units up the siege tower into your pike militia, Great memories!
@@Zimster especially... when after they ran up and die, you quickly retreat youre unit to a safe place... the moment they lauch a treb on the tower to deal with you.... but ONLY hit their friendly units chasing my pike militia ;)
@@roelven1282 200IQ plays haha
yu juat scolded tsegers like yu were scolding a 4 yr old, why
Because I used to love using them back on season2-3. Now they get countered by everything. It hurts deeply! Haha
This would be more useful if it was shorter
It was live, can’t change the time it took, next time I’ll try and shorten the convos a bit and not repeat.
@@Zimster ok i didnt know it was live but thank you
My pike militia thinks they are imperial pikemen
lol weirdly pike militia get more unit kills normally
Great video like all other tier videos :)
Really help full for a returning player like me.
I just have to Ask How to you define your ranks.
I dont understand and the ranks makes No sense to me probably because the words Doesnt mean the same to me.
I mean for me a balanced is right that is where a unit is supposed to be.
It does What its designed to do and the cost of it is just right for There usefulness.
Meta are units that are really really strong and a Most have almost to be successful.
And OP is a Wierd rank To have since all OP units is Meta Aswell.
OP rank would be a unit that is broken in the positive way.
But that unit is Meta aswell.
Say like This If cav gets a huge nerf next Patch all piké or Will fall out of meta or OP rank since They are a used as a specific counter for the meta and the Meta changes.
Not sure i make any sense just wanted to share it any way :p
Check my new Infantry Tier List video. I explain a bit more in that one how we ranked them. Also ranks are easier to understand. I hope that helps. Welcome back to the game!
Iron Reaper in the meta
Then bring them to TW over cav and ranged 😁
@@Zimster I got 500+ game in this s5 trust me :)
@@cryostasi where’s the video! That’s awesome
@@Zimster probably I should take a video of it 😆
I agree. Now that forte are useless reapers just reap. I am killing like paladins and spear units like cutting through butter without loosing a single unit. And people underestimating them are getting rekt by sitting in front of the charge.
Indeed they are weak to cav and range but that makes them balanced.
Alright i have to say this! Iron Reapers are definitely Meta and i apologize to all the IR lovers out there! I used them for a deathball strategy to take Vaja and worked perfect against stalwarts!
The new season 5 units are op, and yes they make a lot of other units obsolete.
Weird. Azaps were the worst troops of the Ottoman Empire.
Gj