Nice that people going easy in the comment section. Vids like this tend to step on a lot of toes and start drama with players. Really proud of the people here being so respectful )
Longbow is literally the best at counter range I don't do how it's not higher... You out range all others and can 1 hit the 1 unit you put in the OP category
it really is dam gud against anything at range but one enemy(even just a assasin) can kill a entire longbow unit. Thats d sad part unless u always stay with ur archers.
Ooo that flamethrowers are atleast meta but dont know have you used them maxed supported by shields. They just stop everything way better than pevisses and tercios. And gunners are actualy op in TW
@@Zimster actualy they are not, they only relie on good use. Just bring them to chaotic situation where no one expect them, and they can because they are almost as fast as monastics hahah, and you can clear that caos in seconds it is like probably you will lose them but you will get 100 kills. I feal them like khesigs now if someone sees you and prepered you are gone and if you use chaotic situation you destroy everything. It is true you cant go just with them alone but non of units can do that in our server even in solo que players have learned to play organised and they follow so if you go alone you are by by
@@Zimster probably you will when someone dont know how to use them. But oke you have your opinion. I used them last night in TW in Hebao i stoped 3 charges of cavs and almost took that town so enemy hat to pull their mens from deffending deicheng to save that town and actualy non direct i helped to take region capital with that unit killing 90 units and 4 heroes in like 15 seconds
@@Joske0000 it could of been imperial pike that did the same thing? Your talking about strategic planning which can be done with other units too. I’m not saying their bad I just think their balanced unlike falcos which has a huge edge over units and hero’s when protected
Demense Arbalist are one of the top ranged units in the game, reasons... High ammunition, High armor pierce, puncturing Bolts which pierce through shields and units...Good accuracy, high rate of fire, also have many damage upgrades in unit tree, up to 35% bonus damage. Imperial archers are best ranged unit in the game, mainly because they counter every other ranged unit, they out damage all of them, and just about have the same range as Vasal longbow men, they can hurt heavy armor units, they are the most versatile, and most useful archers. in fact I would only use imperial, or Nahm Kahns archers. Pavise are still Super strong. I play on frontier though and have 24% atk rate increase.
For me, demesne arquebusiers were good until early season V. All unit model stop mid-formation and fire at enemy even if they dont have line of sight. Also, when I focus fire order, they dont fire if the enemy appears out of range (they just do repeating reloading animation)
I don’t like how only 3 people in the chat are choosing, ide say the demesne arquibusiers are quite balanced for their level, and easier for early players to get
Bro can you tell me where house funds of my house came from? I did 1 house quest of 150k bronze coins and 1 group quest of 20k.. i should have 170k house funds but i have more then 255k.. Can you plz tell me how they increase? i have 0 towns..
Dude, right!? i have no idea where some of the bronze comes from. I can only assume its from doing anything that helps the house. I will look for the article that breaks this down somewhere. Im sure they posted it somewhere.
@@Zimster the kill potential is alot lower then people think. The poison dmg is a plecebo, they do ok dmg from poison but no actual dmg. They are only good when in a combo.
@@Zimster when troops are full health that they tank that easily, and thats if namkhans have a lot of time hitting. I have test this out for over half the season in high ranks and i found 2- 3 units that are alot better consistantly. Getting kills from stragglers some times isnt better then killing most of the time. Namkhans alone are pretty weak in my eyes, i have had ppl argue with me but no one has shown me any actual proof. Namkhans are good for maybe 50 kills if played right but their attack speed isnt good enough to make the poison hurt much.
The thing with Namkhan is they actually quite fast to move around, and decent range to snipe down things like Pavise, muskets, even falco. They quite good at killing heroes too with assassination doctrine, random hero try to run up to it just died. Most of all, they are really good for their leadership cost, they fit right into many different build. This is why I take Namkhan over Pavise any day. I can have a gold cav with Namkhan and still have room for another purple unit.
I'm surprised by prefecture archers being so low on the list. in my opinion, arrow rain makes them the best ranged unit in the game. Can wipe out all other archer units with ease, can decimate entire units in 5-10 seconds and then you can run to cover.
You know there is one epic archery doctrine that give arrow rain I know because I have one in my Namkhans so ye I prefer Namkhans with arrow rain doctrine one million times :)
Falcos are op, not all the time for sieges but for tw? Is that even a question? Unlike cavalry that might change a tide of a battle but they will! With a good team it's the most powerful unit in the game. The fact that you can delete an entire push is already giving it an op slot.
I agree but they are so reliant on other units u can’t mark them op. Op is a unit you can use on their own in a lot of situations to change the outcome. Reason namhkans are op is because of the huge hero kill potential near and far. Falcos look like lost dogs when a hero runs up to them
@@Zimster I think what he means is that in a TW falcos are perhaps the most powerful unit when it comes to raw destruction. This is a team based game and if you compare imp pikes to them they won’t be able to kill anything solo. Aye the advance is bs but at the end other units deal the damage. The gunners are an op unit in tw. No unit in a game has a potential of ruining an entire assault not even cavalry
The fire archers are good....i use them...and i have games wgen i have over 100 kills with this ones...when they use the fire...they also have higher fire rate...i mean...i killed one unit of pikes in 3 seconds. Ofcourse i have the 50% ammo doctrine on them...so you can use them more. Overall the namkan have much lower fire rate...i mean...i have the same kills with both units.
@@13thirteen86 oh gotcha, my main issue with grenadiers is they are super squishy and have very little ammo. Can’t use them for a long period of time for a battle and they don’t survive intense ones
@@Zimster thing is they basically could break any unit in a barrage and also defend against most melee units, don’t even get me started with sniping heroes as well so they were given a “balancing patch”
I love demesne arbalist but they are bugged atm their suppressive fire ability(target fire) is glitched and the arrows disappear. I wish there would be a way to let the devs know. The attack move etc. works fine. It's only the ability. The fact that I still use them proves they have something going for them.
I must have had a stroke... I meant their target area ability is bugged. But yea they are good I just wish I could choose what to shoot with them since the abi is bugged.
I actually think they lower than falco. Since they have low range, squishy and low number. Without shield or hide behind wall. Archer and range heroes will snipe them down asap.
Was so cool to catch you LIVE on Twitch! it's a bit late for me but was nice, couldn't chat cause it was subs only but was cool to see u :D
Haha thanks for stopping in, I did mention your art and how Awesome it is! Was doing a subs only giveaway which involved the chat. 😁
@@Zimster I heard it !! Hehe I didnt know how to reply so I just commented here 🤣
Nice that people going easy in the comment section. Vids like this tend to step on a lot of toes and start drama with players. Really proud of the people here being so respectful )
I can appreciate that. I try and do it with my community so it’s not just my opinion
I am almost lvl100 and still using demense archers 😊
SAME MAN
Longbow is literally the best at counter range I don't do how it's not higher... You out range all others and can 1 hit the 1 unit you put in the OP category
it really is dam gud against anything at range but one enemy(even just a assasin) can kill a entire longbow unit. Thats d sad part unless u always stay with ur archers.
Ooo that flamethrowers are atleast meta but dont know have you used them maxed supported by shields. They just stop everything way better than pevisses and tercios. And gunners are actualy op in TW
They can be very strong in being paired with good shields. I agree but it relies too much on the other unit to hit meta in my book
@@Zimster actualy they are not, they only relie on good use. Just bring them to chaotic situation where no one expect them, and they can because they are almost as fast as monastics hahah, and you can clear that caos in seconds it is like probably you will lose them but you will get 100 kills. I feal them like khesigs now if someone sees you and prepered you are gone and if you use chaotic situation you destroy everything. It is true you cant go just with them alone but non of units can do that in our server even in solo que players have learned to play organised and they follow so if you go alone you are by by
@@Joske0000 I play shortbow and musket and I always take these guys out easy, Have not seen them effective in any TW
@@Zimster probably you will when someone dont know how to use them. But oke you have your opinion. I used them last night in TW in Hebao i stoped 3 charges of cavs and almost took that town so enemy hat to pull their mens from deffending deicheng to save that town and actualy non direct i helped to take region capital with that unit killing 90 units and 4 heroes in like 15 seconds
@@Joske0000 it could of been imperial pike that did the same thing? Your talking about strategic planning which can be done with other units too. I’m not saying their bad I just think their balanced unlike falcos which has a huge edge over units and hero’s when protected
Demense Arbalist are one of the top ranged units in the game, reasons... High ammunition, High armor pierce, puncturing Bolts which pierce through shields and units...Good accuracy, high rate of fire, also have many damage upgrades in unit tree, up to 35% bonus damage. Imperial archers are best ranged unit in the game, mainly because they counter every other ranged unit, they out damage all of them, and just about have the same range as Vasal longbow men, they can hurt heavy armor units, they are the most versatile, and most useful archers. in fact I would only use imperial, or Nahm Kahns archers. Pavise are still Super strong. I play on frontier though and have 24% atk rate increase.
Flamethrowers are good however they are a t5 unit with only 8 of them so for me that makes them not worth it but they are fun and something different
For me, demesne arquebusiers were good until early season V. All unit model stop mid-formation and fire at enemy even if they dont have line of sight. Also, when I focus fire order, they dont fire if the enemy appears out of range (they just do repeating reloading animation)
i cant see namkhan and janissery on my game can u help
@@Sadoqq what do you mean you cant see them? As in, they're not in your barracks or you cant access the challenges window for them?
@@K.B98 yeah i cant see in unit tech tree
Thx !
i think demesne arbalist is definetly balanced
I don’t like how only 3 people in the chat are choosing, ide say the demesne arquibusiers are quite balanced for their level, and easier for early players to get
That’s fair, I try to get as many ppl as possible to help with the tier lists. It’s a mix of my opinion with the chats.
Bro can you tell me where house funds of my house came from? I did 1 house quest of 150k bronze coins and 1 group quest of 20k.. i should have 170k house funds but i have more then 255k.. Can you plz tell me how they increase? i have 0 towns..
Dude, right!? i have no idea where some of the bronze comes from. I can only assume its from doing anything that helps the house. I will look for the article that breaks this down somewhere. Im sure they posted it somewhere.
Rattan Vipers have a continues poising and slow units. i think a balanced unit
longbow deserve meta... so many games you see far more longbows (especially tw) ... then kriegs
for the rest ... im pretty ok with it ;)
Maybe I don’t see them due to hidden somewhere. Very fair point
Ultimate Namkhan assasin = Longbow
if you mean the unit, yep ;) i love seeing nahmmies on the enemy side (or any other archer unit) when i bring my longbows in siege
your chat putting namkhans over pavise makes me question them all about their ranged skills.
Main reason is kill potential with namkhans
@@Zimster the kill potential is alot lower then people think. The poison dmg is a plecebo, they do ok dmg from poison but no actual dmg. They are only good when in a combo.
@@blackmancarry this I can’t agree with, namkhans can get up to 14/15 stacks of bleed. Doing close to 4K-5k health a tick.
@@Zimster when troops are full health that they tank that easily, and thats if namkhans have a lot of time hitting. I have test this out for over half the season in high ranks and i found 2- 3 units that are alot better consistantly. Getting kills from stragglers some times isnt better then killing most of the time. Namkhans alone are pretty weak in my eyes, i have had ppl argue with me but no one has shown me any actual proof. Namkhans are good for maybe 50 kills if played right but their attack speed isnt good enough to make the poison hurt much.
The thing with Namkhan is they actually quite fast to move around, and decent range to snipe down things like Pavise, muskets, even falco. They quite good at killing heroes too with assassination doctrine, random hero try to run up to it just died. Most of all, they are really good for their leadership cost, they fit right into many different build. This is why I take Namkhan over Pavise any day. I can have a gold cav with Namkhan and still have room for another purple unit.
I'm surprised by prefecture archers being so low on the list. in my opinion, arrow rain makes them the best ranged unit in the game. Can wipe out all other archer units with ease, can decimate entire units in 5-10 seconds and then you can run to cover.
High balanced I’d say behind namkhams prefectures are amazing tho
You know there is one epic archery doctrine that give arrow rain I know because I have one in my Namkhans so ye I prefer Namkhans with arrow rain doctrine one million times :)
Falcos are op, not all the time for sieges but for tw? Is that even a question? Unlike cavalry that might change a tide of a battle but they will! With a good team it's the most powerful unit in the game. The fact that you can delete an entire push is already giving it an op slot.
I agree but they are so reliant on other units u can’t mark them op. Op is a unit you can use on their own in a lot of situations to change the outcome. Reason namhkans are op is because of the huge hero kill potential near and far. Falcos look like lost dogs when a hero runs up to them
@@Zimster I think what he means is that in a TW falcos are perhaps the most powerful unit when it comes to raw destruction. This is a team based game and if you compare imp pikes to them they won’t be able to kill anything solo. Aye the advance is bs but at the end other units deal the damage. The gunners are an op unit in tw. No unit in a game has a potential of ruining an entire assault not even cavalry
@@Zimster It's the only range unit with blunt damage, you have to consider that. With good positioning, its feel like getting hit with mini trebuchet
Focus on Rattan Vipers.. they are Meta once you find out
prefecture archers are balanced and janies are not meta for me
You would pick prefecture over namkhans?
@@Zimster no namkhans are the better unit, but they can be op if you know how to play with them
Fire boys are definitely meta for TW defense.
That’s what I’m started to hear
What do you mean by "fire boys"? Incendiary archers?
@@chaylez4102 flamethrowers is what I assumed
Season 3 was crazy. Literally all units from season 3 are OP back then.
The fire archers are good....i use them...and i have games wgen i have over 100 kills with this ones...when they use the fire...they also have higher fire rate...i mean...i killed one unit of pikes in 3 seconds. Ofcourse i have the 50% ammo doctrine on them...so you can use them more. Overall the namkan have much lower fire rate...i mean...i have the same kills with both units.
I’ll have to take a look at them again
Wildflames are fillers? lol I use them and if they are used properly they are DEVASTATING. Now I doubt all these tiers placed to units.
What are wildflames?
@@Zimster the ones holding the oranges
@@13thirteen86 oh gotcha, my main issue with grenadiers is they are super squishy and have very little ammo. Can’t use them for a long period of time for a battle and they don’t survive intense ones
The Tercios got nerfed, they do less dps now
I’ll be honest, never played them
@@Zimster thing is they basically could break any unit in a barrage and also defend against most melee units, don’t even get me started with sniping heroes as well so they were given a “balancing patch”
@@cesaralarcon5228 they should of kept them the same to deal with all these damn cav haha
What is ~META~?
Most Effective Tactic Available is what it stands for MMO
simple, 15x 5 star cavalry
@@Hollyyshit96 it’s slowly changing
@@Zimster i hope so, it doesn't feel like a tactical game at all to me
@@Hollyyshit96 it’s a very situational game and planning
I love demesne arbalist but they are bugged atm their suppressive fire ability(target fire) is glitched and the arrows disappear. I wish there would be a way to let the devs know. The attack move etc. works fine. It's only the ability. The fact that I still use them proves they have something going for them.
I’ll be honest I don’t use them but they seem cool
I must have had a stroke... I meant their target area ability is bugged. But yea they are good I just wish I could choose what to shoot with them since the abi is bugged.
Rattan Vipers is META !!! ( or Balanced) jesus,... try it before you judge it
U cant stop cav. with fire archers ... Monastery knights and that cav. from season 4 are fireproof... 🤣😂 That mean that archer unit is trash....👍
They stop khesigs tho, which is the number 1 cav unit in the game.
flamethrowers are balanced????? OMEGA LUL
You don’t think so? I feel they are high risk high reward. Also you need a shield to make them op
I actually think they lower than falco. Since they have low range, squishy and low number. Without shield or hide behind wall. Archer and range heroes will snipe them down asap.