Thanks for watching! This is the first episode of a series we are producing with the Future Perfect team at Vox, who explore big problems and the big ideas that can tackle them. We are calling this season The Human Cost of Meat, and future episodes will explore other ways industrial meat production has transformed the lives of people who consume meat, work in the meat industry, or live next to a factory farm. You can listen to more Future Perfect reporting on other ways Big Meat has changed our lives here: www.vox.com/future-perfect-podcast
Resisting the urge to comment on every video until the entire series has been released... I know you got an angle here Vox, and I know I am not going to see the full narrative until the last video.
I appreciate y'all reporting on the meat industry, even if it is from a more neutral standpoint. Some politicians, especially in New York, are proposing ways to help farmers transitions from livestock farming to other farming methods or means of income. I sincerely hope these farmers can transition, because the profitability of the livestock industry is going to just keep tanking
@@eliteffsquadron9932 Thanks for the idea! In the meantime, Phil did a video in 2019 on "Why so many suburbs look the same", that you can watch here: ua-cam.com/video/vWhYlu7ZfYM/v-deo.html
In Brazil, milk and coffee market works the same, lots of producers and just a handful of packers. This is outsourcing at it's worse. Those packers don't run their business with much risk, if production goes down, only farmers suffer. Packers just sell less.
@@michaelsmith2733 Surprised Vox is covering this find a local producer and processor and circumvent these corporations, it's an upfront cost but your getting animals with a much better quality of life.
@@of-Israel That's the way most of us country folks have been doing all along. I buy mine live and take them to a local butcher shop and have them processed myself. I'm not tryna pay $24 lb for some run of the mill salebarn piece of meat from Walmart. It's actually cheaper to buy them straight from the producer anyway. By the time I pay for the cow and the cutting and wrapping it works out to about $1.60- $2.50 lb in the freezer depending on how much I paid per pound for the cow itself. You also get a better quality piece of meat buying one that you know has been finish fed for at least the last 90 days. I sometimes split one with the guy I buy from so he has as much incentive to see that it's done right as I do.
@@michaelsmith2733 If you think Bill Gates is more of an issue...then these meatpackers companies have won. You are watching squirrels when the tiger is in front of you. 40% of cattle farmers are gone...the same goes for corn, chicken, and soybeans.
There is a book called “Goliath” and it’s about monopolies and anti-trust laws. It shows a full time line of how America has let big companies control industries without much regulation.
This is the thing that always gets me. Meat production in the US *used to* be somewhat environmentally conscious. Bigger, less concentrated farms where the animals are raised properly have a much lower impact on the environment, but farms were forced to industrialize because of the packer monopoly messing up the supply chain. Moreover if farming was done the way it used to be, there wouldn’t have been a meat shortage during the pandemic. This is why we shouldn’t be villainizing cow farmers. We should be looking at the corporations that warped the industry.
I'm not really sure how they used to produced in US, buuut now a days even if the production is intensive and not extensive it's environmentally conscious, for example, in vet's curriculum studies we have to learn how to manage all the wastes in an ecological and proper way so they don't become a hazard to the environment heath and that translate to the human and wild animals healths. As I said I don't have the background or the knowledge of the US evolution in production, but entities as FAO and OIE are constantly in the lookout for better practice where Europe and the US are in the firsts places in environment and animal welfare
Regardless people are going to want meat and like many other products that are made unethically/through sweatshops people buy it because they want or need it
People in Texas/rural know that the issue of CO2 is the corporation, not a small rancher. I don’t understand why the feedlots don’t make their own Meatpacker
When i was a young kid, before i understood politics or anything of the sort, I always thought Ronald Reagan was a great president. But now that I'm old enough to understand the world around me, I've realized the Reagan administration messed up a lot of policies that are still being felt 4 decades later.
If you need any proof, go look at a graph of the wealth gap, take a look where wages split off from productivity, it’s right on the dot of Reagan’s presidency. Reagan undid centuries of legislation put in place by the Roosevelt government specifically designed to protect the free market, in the name of “freeing it”
thats pretty common in a two party system though. In Denmark we have more than two parties but most of the time its between the two biggest ones to govern, which means it sometimes is about how to change what the last administration have been doing. Seems to be somewhat the same thing happening in the US. Maybe not so much with Biden, but I might be wrong.
Reagan told Americans what they wanted to hear. We were moral, and good, and there would be unlimited wealth and growth. No need to worry about resource consumption, consolidation, financialization, offshoring. Some people look back fondly on those times because they felt simpler - no need to worry about the coming problems because the president said everything was going to be ok. It was all just an illusion that tricked Americans into putting off solving these big problems of inequality and resource overuse.
They interviewed cattle farmers on a perspective of why cattle farming trade laws are not good? No right to reply? No legal experts? How is this real journalism? Please wake up John
Ironically it’s kinda the same reason as this video describes. Most of the News and media has been consolidated and is owned and controlled by the same few corporations
@@lu-dx6oh I actually hate putin with a passion. Precisely for the same reason that there is a limited amount of perspectives that get categorised as facts or their news gets classed as 'real journalism'... but I wouldn't say the west is far removed from the Philosophy Putin strives by, it is just more obscured and less overt.
My family was never involved in ranching so I am the first to have always dreamed of raising cattle on my own ranch. I researched and discovered what the video reveals. An individual ranch has little chance of succeeding........in the U. S. So I bought a ranch and living my dream in Uruguay. Best decision ever.
Exactly! Trickle down is a very misunderstood concept in economics. Trickle down actually doesn't mean the money will trickle down but that the rich have more money available that they will use to invest more in innovation that will/could eventually benefit us. For example by making things more efficient and cheaper or investing in economies of scale. (Though honestly I don't see his innovations like SpaceX and BlueOrigin trickle down much... so I guess even this theory when interpreted correctly has its flaws/limitations)
if the profits would trickle down, the investors and wouldnt do it, because its less profit for them. the maxime is to maximise profits for your own good, not the good of others
Just look at what lumber prices did during the pandemic. People argue all day long that it's because so much more building going on, really? but whatever... if you look down the line the guys hauling logs from forests aren't making any more money, the guys who cut the logs down aren't making any more money, the guys who sell the rights for trees on their property aren't making any more money. Yet the few big companies who are making lumber to sell to stores(e.g. Georgia Pacific) are now having record years.
At this point, Vox should just have a series called “And Then Regan Happened”, because the Regan Administration seems to be the catalyst for a TON of our problems today.
I'm studying to become a vet but I'm from Chile in South America, i want to highlight that my country is the 8th in porcine production, 10th in poultry and 15th in turkey so as a small developing country it's really important for our economy; what happens in big countrys and already developed continents affects in so many ways. The domino effect generated by the prices in USA production also affects prices in smaller countrys like Chile
The problem when you vote against government regulation despite it being the thing that will keep your family business running. Regulations need to make it easier to get through the door without excessive fees but these big companies need to lose some of their power because it's almost a monopoly( yes its more than one but you get the idea).
People conflate bureaucracy with regulation. People never like extra "red tape" to get things done and that is what most people reference when they talk about "regulation". However, extra forms or steps to satisfy a regulation is actually bureaucracy and should be the target of change. Unfortunately, people conflate that with "regulation" is the problem and throw the baby out with the bathwater. (One could argue that this conflation was intentional!)
There's no doubt going to be an agenda as the series continues, but I do like the factual reporting here & I hope the agenda follows the path this seems to be on, of looking at corporations rather than blaming innocent individuals for the world's failures
Theyre clearing pushing an agenda. It was a very one sided video. They never point out the fact how more efficient meat processing is and how accessible meat now is. There are pros and cons to things and it seems like they only focused on the cons
@@jorgeavelar98 I'm sorry but seeing "easier acces to meat" as a pro is such an old and idiotic 1950 to 2000 sentiment. 1. it's not more nutricious 2. it's capitalism trying to flex at it's finest at the expense of the climate. 3. it's morally disgusting. Go read the latest studies. The meat industry is literally a modernised version of what cigarette industry was in 1960's. The only con is: it tastes good to most people, but does it justify hurting the climate? does it justify hurting your own health? does it justify hurting the animals?
my families cattle ranch is on its last generation and is about to be shut down. Its been around for 3 generations and I was upset that the last generation never taught the next generation (my generation) anything of the trade, now I think it might have been a blessing that I never got involved in that industry to begin with.
And the fish industry in Asia.. People think we eat some cow.Aint seen nothing to what they do to the environment.There wolnt be any fish left in the ocean soon enough
@@SpaceRanger187 w0w i thought my comment will get buried amongst hundred others here, glad people care. as for the reply i hear you, over-fishing is a serious environmental concern threatening the complex food web and disturbing ocean flora & fauna interactions on a very big scale.
TBH food prices were higher for consumers before Regan. Liberals love higher beef and Energy prices because it spurs adoption of renewables and plant based diets.
My hometown of Dubuque, Iowa was hit really hard by the consolidation of the meat packing industry. At one point in the early 80s, we had the highest unemployment rate out of any city in the country (about 25%). 40 years later, the city is still struggling to come back. Thank you for sharing this video.
don't blame the corporations, dont even blame their lobbyists. blame the government that for some interesting reason decides it is entitled to a piece of every apple pie in the country.
I am not even from America and I felt the pain that these people feel. It really doesn't matter where you live we all feel the same feelings. This was really good! Great story!
We started getting all of our chicken pork and beef from a local family farm 2 years ago. I’ve been to the farm, our daughter has played with their children and we know they treat their livestock humanely. We pick up our meat monthly and see our farmers every time we pick it up.
Every president since FDR has been a neoliberal for the most part, don’t blame it on conservative leaders solely since liberal leaders especially in the US are just as guilty as their conservative counterpart
Luckily we in the small farming communities still have a local locker and the farmers that raise the beef to buy it from. Every locker I know of is booked for months ahead with locals buying a half or whole beef or hog and beating the retail price.
We also have better idea of how our food was raised when we can drive by the farm. It's good to have an idea of what's in your food and on your plate. Also, we need to keep our local farms in business so we still have food when "supply chain" shortages happen or when big box stores pack up and leave.
@Krazer there are still Roman homes being used today!? I thought even the Palaces were mostly ruins now! Please tell me! where you saw this Roman home?
That's the gag about republicans, they are the party of big corporations but use the small people to deregulate industries, it's wild to watch this video but still have people debate on free healthcare, free education, free housing, sooner or later corporations will eat everything up, people will wonder why did we give up so much for so little
What worries me most, as a Kiwi, is that the rest of the world see’s the profit American corporations reap and think ‘What a fantastic idea, let’s try that here! We can make all the money.’ Capitalism isn’t, by definition, destructive. Being greedy, by definition, is. Cheers Yankees.
It may not be destructive by definition, but destruction is ultimately a conclusion: the environment and its resources aren't economically valuable when left in tact. It's always more profitable to destroy and abuse nature in the short term, and capitalism forces companies to ONLY consider the short term, even at the detriment of the long term (as long as it isn't personally their problem).
Capitalism is by definition destructive, though here capitalism is defined as an economic system where NO government regulation is involved. That means that on a left-right economic scale is at the right extreme. The left extreme is communism. The system that America uses, Neo-liberalism (a system introduced by Reagan) is in the center of the right part of the line (i.e in the middle between center-right and capitalism). The system that America used before Reagan and that most European countries use is Liberalism, which is centre right. The system that the Nordics use is Social Democracy, which is centre-left, and finally, the system that Venesuela uses is socialism, a system to the left of social democracy. Time and time again, it has been proven that America needs to switch at least to Liberalism. So, capitalism in the economic sense is always destructive, but capitalism in the popular sense (i.e. an economic system that is right-leaning) is not always destructive, as we can see and learn from Europe.
Ruan Costa just stick to what you actually know, like how to order your coffee, cause talking about things you know nothing about just really isn't working out for you.
Great documentary. Striking parallels between what happens in US Beef and in farms globally (Indian farm situations are similar), of building more and more concentrated supply chains while pricing out family businesses
I love how people think that if they buy one brand of meat versus another brand that they’re buying different meat in reality they all probably came from the same slaughterhouse
It's the same with most industrialized food and beverages. Few brands like Unilever, Nestlé, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Mondeléz, Kellogg's, Kraft Heinz, General Mills... own almost every brand you buy.
In the UK, I have never really seen brands for raw meat, except for processed meats like sausage and bacon. Everything is just the supermarket branding
That’s not the only industry like that, while more well known, another industry that a video on would be great is the timber prices and that of the lumber market
Yes, we have cattle and timber. Can't even thin our trees, which would be good for the environment and fire danger. There aren't anymore mills close to take them too, which makes us have to pay to get rid of trees.
Absolutely… it’s the exact same story. Large mills bought out the small ones giving log producers less choice of who to sell too and building code regulations requiring graded lumber prevent the formation of new small scale operations.
Also, due to fast growth or slow growth in the cattle, age doesn't really matter to them. The optimal weight of the cattle is what they're really looking for.
Brilliant work. Feed lots are disasters for the environment and the rise of cheap beef and its diet of corn and grains has created a multitude of health issues for our country, and the cattle.
thank you so much for choosing to buy meat from local farms instead of those big factory farms. I'm sure the animals would thank you if they knew of the immense sacrifices you make, going out of your way to support local family businesses when paying for them to be murdered for no ethically sound reason whatsoever. Good job!
@@lereff1382 murdered????? Are you that ridiculous? Why don't you go tell a lion not to "murder" a zebra, or does that not fit your propagandists agend.
@@bradsmith5838 If you leave it to PETA or these other guys out here, they'll start prosecuting all wild animals for surviving and start to regulate their diets to an all vegan meal. LOL.
I am from small landholding cattle Rearing family in India and l can feel his pain at 11:40 down to bottom of my 💓 . It's really heartbreaking to see his family legacy from 1882 getting destroyed by some money minded vultures. Agriculture or cattle rearing is a completely different emotional experience. People living in rural hinterland will only get that not some city educated snobs getting business mgmt degrees. with fast pace of globalisation and the way govt is pushing legislation without giving two hoots about protection of innocent farmers. It took America about 40 years to reach this stage if 3 recently cleared now suspended laws aren't withdrawn India would be in much worse situation in about 8-10 year's
@@dizzy328 Why Not. India is one of the oldest civilizations to master cattle herding and agriculture maybe not the size of American Ranches now but Almost every indian Farmer is doing cattle herding as a supplementary activity.
@@jacksevert3099 Yeah and he is probably from the states that dont ban cow slaughter. Remember each Indian state has a population of a country in Europe or AFrica
@@sadiqrahman2961 Uttar Pradesh state has a population of 250 million. Much more than any European country. More than every country other than China, India and USA.
I became a vegetarian at the age of 6 after witnessing a goat slaughter. Became a vegan two years ago after learning about the cruel practices of dairy industry and the ill effects it has on human health. We all can contribute for a better future.
Good for you and keep at it. But, quoting a classic "You can't change a thing on your own, so why even try?" This is the point a lot of these videos miss. It should be more long term, visionary solutions instead of complaining for the sake of doing it.
@@kubalibre I think I have understood your point and I think that's a fair argument. I am not coaxing those who don't want to change their ways. It's just that some of us who want to... I wanted to connect with them.
@@kubalibre I stopped eating beef after I read that its the worst food by CO2 emissions. I've tried to go mostly vegetarian, but still eat chicken occasionally. My GF and I made the choice to basically stop buying meat at the grocery store, and to only eat meat if we're at a restaurant or family's house. Everyone can make that decision. You don't need beef in your diet, you can substitute it with chicken, pork, fish, or any vegetarian option.
@@adamt195 Absolutely! I could never understand the need to eat meat at every meal of the day. And not one type, but chicken, egg, bacon( pig), ham, steak.. and much more in a single meal. Such lifestyle is dangerous for our health and unsustainable environmentally.
So in short - The current inflation phenomena is caused by greedy oligopolies. Not because of demand and supply but because of direct market power of oligopolies.
No whats causing the inflation is the unsure future of the cattle industry under this administration. An administration that wants to get rid of this industry under the green deal.
@@mercdragons so you're telling me, 4 big players with market power doesn't do anything. Come on man, study some economics. Monopolies/Oligopolies are price setters because they have the power to do set prices.
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE that's how commercial herds are, "aged" because many different types of beef cattle reach 700 pounds at different stages in their life.
Excellent job, Vox. Viewers, spread the word: Tell your Congress-person to help those cattle ranchers out. They are honest, extremely hard working people. What wasn't shown here is that, that auction process (competitive bidding) is, often times, the only break those ranchers get from a 7 day work week. Cattle herds need feed and attention every day of the year. That once a week auction, for the rancher, runs from the morning until early afternoon. Even during their break, these ranchers are working on maintaining the quality of their herds.
Thank you for this. This issue is huge, as you showed. The fact that big companies control the market means that the small guys don't get the money they're due, and that they need. It's plain obvious, but I'm a scientist, not an economist... 😉
@@mehere8038 our government subsidise cattle farmer here quite generously because we import so much beef with only the population of 30 mil we’re the 10th biggest beef importers in the world so the government wants the domestic cattle farmer to produce more high end cattle beef to satisfy the domestic demand, so they heavily subsidised us, we also have the same system used by cattle farmers in Australia albeit not on the same scale since we are a fairly small country compared to Australia massive land mass.
@@shamerzaihan8638 good move on their part imo. Always good to be independent in food supplies, I think covid's taught us that well!. What system is that in Australia though? I'm not aware of massive subsidies for cattle farmers in Australia, is that what you're talking about or something totally different? I think I might be getting confused/not following what you're saying correctly
@@mehere8038 no what i meant is in terms of how a cattle ranch operates its quite similar to our Australian counterpart, government policy wise its a different story hehe.
@@mehere8038 u see the explanation by OP right? There's a gimmick. You must be very well connected or person of particular race to apply most of the low interest subsidy. My brother tried to apply it, it was blatantly rejected. Well because of the color of the skin.
I found this to be a great explanation of the currently flawed system. I see this far too often with conventional cattlemen raise a product only to be met with ever diminishing margins when he goes off to the sale barn. In someway, I'm almost gleeful to see the ransom-ware attack against JBS as its aftereffects shed light on the severely concentrated nature of the industry and thus point consumers to direct marketing outlets like farmers markets.
All of them should unite, try to form a cooperative society where the benefit is with the lower tier cattle producers until it reaches the Factory. The company shouldnt be allowed to buy unless they come to the auction, thereby all from top to bottom gets fair price. Cooperative strength can outsmart the cooperation strength.
Another huge problem are bacteria with multiple resistances against antibiotics. If such bacteria spread in one packing plant they spread to an extremely large group of meat consumers.
@@MrBumbo90 you should listen to the Revolutions podcast by Mike Duncan especially the most recent parts on the Russian revolution. It does a great job of showing how the people involved changed throughout their lives and proves the saying "power corrupts
Also Lenin: concentrated almost all the power of the supposed soviets to a small politburo, invaded poland, southern russia and central asia and fricking regulated the farmers industries through forced collectivization
If you buy kosher beef, you are not buying from any of the entities mentioned in this report. However, the kosher beef market is becoming consolidated as well. It would be interesting to see a report on the kosher meat industry.
Imagine if we all stopped eating beef and showed them!! I had a classmate who was punk and didn't eat animals in 1984 in Irvine, Ca. His name was Scott and he was super smart. The things he said to me stuck in my mind and finally in 2014 after decades of health of issues and experience, I chose to go vegan.
@@koopag8 Yes he was. He didn't wear leather and I am grateful he took the time to teach me about the reasons we should avoid eating animals. It's interesting how one's life changes after giving up eating animal flesh. The most profound experience is when other animals no longer see you as a predator and treat you as their friends. Did you know that the majority of leather comes from dogs and cats that are skinned alive in CHINA? Yes, ALIVE, because it is easier to peel them that way. I don't recommend those videos because it will haunt for the rest of your life.Please make a choice to be kind and not eat animals anymore. God loves all his creation!
UA-cam pls fix the bot problem! Yeah some industries need better regulations. Here in Scandinavia we have basically one company in milk and processing of milk into various products called Arla. However its called a good monopoly, because it needs to be big enough to compete against other companies of the same size in Europe and the rest of the world. Here the producer is part owners of the manufactoring part (as said before, Arla) so they have power to enforce higher prices for their milk if the company is doing well and opposite if demand for milk should fall. So its basically a self-regulating business, I wonder if there are similar types of businesses out there.
@@Munchausenification Yes monopolies are ok when they are competing with the rest of the world. I am hoping Scandinavian farmers can sell milk to other processers in Europe, so they aren't forced to sell cheap for Arla. Is this how it works?
@@thetimelapseguy8 Not every dairy farmer is part of the Arla business, but id say 90-95% are. Actually I was wrong in my first comment. the farmers ARE the owners of the company 100%. This is from their website on the subject: Arla is a dairy cooperative, owned by more than 9,700 farmers. All the benefits from the sale of Arla’s products go back to those owners. The owners live in seven countries in Northern Europe and they share the earnings equally on each litre of milk they deliver to Arla. Our cooperative roots go all the way back to the 1880s and our structure means that we work collaboratively to create a sustainable long term future for the dairy industry.
This video is about the meat industry, but this problem exists in literally every single industry in the US. It's very simple: When the government stays small and doesn't intervene in business, corporations take advantage and get greedy. There will never be an occasion where that isn't true.
@@universenerdd what are you talking about? The problem in the video is that the government isn't regulating the size of these middlemen, causing a sales squeezes for producers and price increases for consumers.
This just shows that differences your career, political beliefs, or way of life doesn’t matter - large institutions, be it government or business, will always take everything and leave you with nothing, that’s what happens when power is consolidated. I am a very different kind of person from the ranchers shown here, but I feel their pain.
I read an article somewhere around late summer 2021 that a bunch of cattle ranchers in the US are banding together to make their own meatpacking operation. That's where the profit$ are. There's some kind of antitrust case going on with 2 of the meatpackers fixing prices. I wish you good luck cattle ranchers.
Mr. Kammerer said we're loosing a legacy and he's right. However, were also loosing our country. The money being brought in by packers is not being spent on the needs of individuals Americans in rule communities but instead being hoarded and spent on temporary wants.
The thing is, it won't go out of business, not anytime soon. And all the while it isn't going out of business, the cattle will pay the price, their lives will be far, far worse when all these small independent ranchers are run out of business. No matter what way you look at it, if we don't help out these ranchers, their animals will pay the price.
@@G33KSPALACEdotCOM seeing the free fall of dairy industry one can't help thinking that meat industry is next, though, as you said, not anytime soon. You're also right when saying that these ranchers need help and support to transition to a new field of job and agriculture, free from all the current death, pain and torture.
Here in Brazil we don't have this problem, there are many small, medium and giant meatpackers like JBS and Marfrig, we are the largest cattle producers in the world and it becomes even more evident when a Brazilian company like JBS even controls the North American market. Brazil is the future of livestock 🇧🇷🐂
@@jamesgilmore7317 It's no use being envious of Brazil, without our livestock production the world will not have a meat supplier because no country on this planet has the potential of Brazil to produce cattle on a large scale in a sustainable way on pasture without the mandatory use of feedlots that generate pollution and waste
@@cesarv23 I am not envious of Brazil, I am all for grass fed beef and I am against feed lots. I think it's wonderful how sustainable Brazil's beef industry is. I just meant that things can change very quickly without warning for an industry. E.g: when you could no longer export to China for a while due to the BSE scare a month ago.
when that rancher choked up i felt really bad. this is their whole lives and most likely something their parents grandparents built up. the pressure to keep it running successfully is really taking a toll on him.
I disagree with the statement that consumers are paying the price. Meat price is artificially low, as meat prices don't reflect external costs on, for instance, the environment or human health. Meat should be much more expensive, not less.
Just so long as that extra revenue goes into developing more humane farming practices and pro environmental efforts rather than lining the pockets of rich big business owners
Meat as it currently exists just cannot continue without subsidies, if there were no subsidies, the price would shoot up fivefold, and less people would buy it, so everyone would go out of business other than very few, which isn't a bad thing, I hope your guys' taxes don't go to killing and torturing animals
Great video - rare to see antitrust broken down into such a simple and comprehensible video (while still conveying the complexity of how markets work). More of this please!
My family's ranch in Texas is 300 head Neighbors just hit bankruptcy with their ranch and we are struggling and honestly with how things are going not far behind
We are cow/calf and just for an example, the price for us to sell right now is 20 cents lower per lb than last year. Last year we broke even. Our cost to run has been affected by inflation this year too. Now think about how much the price has gone up at the store.
Isnt it appropiate to think in larger terms? Neoliberalisms fault? Im not too much into politics, but have their been attempts from later presidents and administrations to remedy Reagans actions? If not, id probably consider it a broader problem than Reagan.
@@Munchausenification Oh the problem is definitely wider than just Reagan but as he is a major starting point for setting up the policies and ideas that are still hurting us now.
@@GeneralGray8 Makes sense. I wonder if the disparity between state laws and federal laws and de-regulation of them can have a "trickle-down" effect - to use his own words, since it should be able to go both ways. One impacts the other and if that is impacting the other part in a good way, it doesnt have to lead to a overall good trickle down, it might just not go anywhere or even end in a bad "trickle-down"
Completely untrue. But left-wing liberals would never tell you this. People who lived through Reagn era loved him becasue they know how bad it was under Carters admin, when Reagan took office he completely turned that around. Under Carter interest rates were outrageously high, you literally could only buy gas on certain days of the week, or if your license plate ended in a 3 for example. Not too mention he gave away the Panama canal.
I remember reading a paper studying the climate impact of cow and cattle production and the conclusion was a far lower impact than expected based on previous papers. Ill try and look for it if you like.
thank you for bringing attention to this issue, while I myself haven't been affected by the ruin of the meat industry my really rurally rooted family has been.
If Democrats want to win in rural states and counties a good place to start would be to pass stricter anti-trust laws and increasing farm subsidies to family farms. Listen to the problems farmers have and try to do something about it
We don't need subsidies if the markets were more free. American cattle producers can not compete with beef being brought in the states from another country were their regs are nonexistent so as to not know what's in the beef.
If democRats want to win in rural districts (that they couldn't care less about) they need to rid the party of Nancy Piglosi, Shumer, Nadler,FJB, etc. This video is well intended, but 180 degrees off center. (it wasn't Reagan) Regulations on the packers closed hundreds of slaughter houses all over the country and the big ones have full control over pricing.
Happy to live in another country where a lot of farmers found their way by selling to regional consumers directly and therefore not giving the profit away to these big companies.
This is beyond an American problem but a North American problem. We as cattle producers in Canada face the same companies and the same bottlenecks. Laws are changing north of the 49 to allow ranchers to market directly to the consumer through a local small town abattoir. We had a large uptake in calls from urban friends wanting to buy beef when a local Cargill plant was closed due to a COVID outbreak. It’s great to see and know about where your food comes from and most in the industry would be more than happy to pass along the truth (from the horses mouth) about beef production. If you can please do support a local rancher for beef. Or attend a 4H sale and support our youth to fill your freezer and contribute to their future. The cost of a full beef as well as the volume of meat can be overwhelming in a once a year purchase, but the savings to the consumer as well as the boost to your local economy has vast benefits.
Thank you for keeping the focus on important stuff that shouldn't be overlooked by the average person.Keep up the good work! Remember to SUPPORT VOX people! Our contributions help keep them reporting. They keep us enlightened.
I remember going to the Auction with my Grandpa. " Boy U need to learn how this work cuz this will be all yours". "But Pa; this ain't right!"..."Boy this how I make a living!" 👀👀👀👀
We replaced plains bison with cattle, the ecological impacts of removing cattle from the environment will destroy natural areas. This isn't about the death of ranches, it's about increasing wildfires, unhealthy forests, the loss of native grasslands which have all but gone extinct. Cattle ranches stand as a bulwark against human expansion into natural areas by providing a value to otherwise worthless land that would be otherwise destroyed by human encroachment. If you care about natural areas you care that ranches exist.
Ok, I understand your direction but I think that you're a little malinformed. Please actually take the time to read this, I mean well, don't just look away. Firstly, yes, the dwindling in wild american bovid species is very bad for the environment and they play a key role, the problem is that farmed cattle do not fill this same niche, they are fed crops that are grown for them in giant single crop farms all of continent, they don't spread seeds across fields or take down the small shrubs that are so devastating in wildfires. Secondly, cattle ranches are a prime indicator of human expansion, not a bulwark against it, look at the aerial shots in this video, the entire areas are entirely fenced and unforested with millions of cows being packed in. Thirdly, your point of bringing value to valueless land isn't completely true, cattle farming is subsidised by the government, so much so that without the subsidies the cattle industry would be a net negative, in other words, tax payers basically create the cattle industry, and they don't get their money back. Lastly, cattle farming directly destroys natural areas in most cases, for example, the amazon is being actively cut down to make room for cattle ranches, in the U.S., instead of the amazon it was forests and prairies that got destroyed for the making of cattle ranches. In fact, around 1/3 of the US's land area is just cattle ranches and farms that supply them with grain and grass.
Thanks for watching! This is the first episode of a series we are producing with the Future Perfect team at Vox, who explore big problems and the big ideas that can tackle them.
We are calling this season The Human Cost of Meat, and future episodes will explore other ways industrial meat production has transformed the lives of people who consume meat, work in the meat industry, or live next to a factory farm.
You can listen to more Future Perfect reporting on other ways Big Meat has changed our lives here: www.vox.com/future-perfect-podcast
"other ways Big Meat has changed our lives"
Hehe theres a few 😈😈
Can you make a video on the impact and future of the American suburban experiment
Resisting the urge to comment on every video until the entire series has been released... I know you got an angle here Vox, and I know I am not going to see the full narrative until the last video.
I appreciate y'all reporting on the meat industry, even if it is from a more neutral standpoint. Some politicians, especially in New York, are proposing ways to help farmers transitions from livestock farming to other farming methods or means of income. I sincerely hope these farmers can transition, because the profitability of the livestock industry is going to just keep tanking
@@eliteffsquadron9932 Thanks for the idea! In the meantime, Phil did a video in 2019 on "Why so many suburbs look the same", that you can watch here: ua-cam.com/video/vWhYlu7ZfYM/v-deo.html
its honestly impressive how many of current Americas problems can be traced back to Reagan.
Not just America, I believe Vice made a documentary where the rise of the Mexican drug cartel is linked to Regan’s War on Drugs,
Well American put 2 people from the entertainment industry in presidency in recent history. One is Reagan, the other one is Trump.
Prety much all of them
ALWAYS back to Reagan
Not only. Stats show inequality has been rising around the whole world since Reagan, while it was reducing before him.
In Brazil, milk and coffee market works the same, lots of producers and just a handful of packers. This is outsourcing at it's worse. Those packers don't run their business with much risk, if production goes down, only farmers suffer. Packers just sell less.
Beef industry in Brazil is especially destructive considering how the go about destroying Amazon for more land
Very interesting, didn’t realize that this sort of concentration occurred in Brazil. Very similar process
Why dont Brasil have more packers?
America basically taught Brazil how to do it, but Brazil doesn’t have antitrust laws
@@juliemac5604 we have, and very good ones.
As a cow calf producer I want to personally thank Vox for this video. This is a serious problem we are facing.
Wait until Bill Gates gets done with you.
Sir we are here to support you and fellows doing the same as you !
@@michaelsmith2733 Surprised Vox is covering this find a local producer and processor and circumvent these corporations, it's an upfront cost but your getting animals with a much better quality of life.
@@of-Israel That's the way most of us country folks have been doing all along. I buy mine live and take them to a local butcher shop and have them processed myself. I'm not tryna pay $24 lb for some run of the mill salebarn piece of meat from Walmart. It's actually cheaper to buy them straight from the producer anyway. By the time I pay for the cow and the cutting and wrapping it works out to about $1.60- $2.50 lb in the freezer depending on how much I paid per pound for the cow itself. You also get a better quality piece of meat buying one that you know has been finish fed for at least the last 90 days. I sometimes split one with the guy I buy from so he has as much incentive to see that it's done right as I do.
@@michaelsmith2733 If you think Bill Gates is more of an issue...then these meatpackers companies have won. You are watching squirrels when the tiger is in front of you. 40% of cattle farmers are gone...the same goes for corn, chicken, and soybeans.
There is a book called “Goliath” and it’s about monopolies and anti-trust laws. It shows a full time line of how America has let big companies control industries without much regulation.
Shout out to the OG Matt Stoller! Top 10 policy analysts of our day.
Will look into that book
Appreciate the recommendation
Do you happen to know the author?
@@RobbyTripp Matt Stoller
@@SithWindu thank you! I didn’t realize you already posted his name.
why does this channel make me interested in things i never thought i’d be interested in
True, the topics are completely random
@@budisoemantri2303 yeah, i always watching vox while eating and im enjoying it
I'm here to pack on more knowledge.🤔
On everything and anything 😳
@@savasava9923 is it beef? 😅
@@savasava9923 focus on your food and feel it
This is the thing that always gets me. Meat production in the US *used to* be somewhat environmentally conscious. Bigger, less concentrated farms where the animals are raised properly have a much lower impact on the environment, but farms were forced to industrialize because of the packer monopoly messing up the supply chain. Moreover if farming was done the way it used to be, there wouldn’t have been a meat shortage during the pandemic.
This is why we shouldn’t be villainizing cow farmers. We should be looking at the corporations that warped the industry.
There is no "environmentally conscious" way to raise cattle, and certainly no ethical way to do it either.
@@lereff1382 you are completely wrong
I'm not really sure how they used to produced in US, buuut now a days even if the production is intensive and not extensive it's environmentally conscious, for example, in vet's curriculum studies we have to learn how to manage all the wastes in an ecological and proper way so they don't become a hazard to the environment heath and that translate to the human and wild animals healths. As I said I don't have the background or the knowledge of the US evolution in production, but entities as FAO and OIE are constantly in the lookout for better practice where Europe and the US are in the firsts places in environment and animal welfare
Regardless people are going to want meat and like many other products that are made unethically/through sweatshops people buy it because they want or need it
People in Texas/rural know that the issue of CO2 is the corporation, not a small rancher. I don’t understand why the feedlots don’t make their own Meatpacker
It's hard to see such a tough guy cry. It's heartbreaking for these farmers.
Ikr seeing the cool rancher man cry really hit me
it made me cry a little bit too ngl
Oh no, the poor little welfare queens are sad🥺
Really put this in perspective 🙁 It's easy to forget about the people like this who keep areas of our economy running
I have the feeling that those cows are having a harder time
"the illusion of choice" - that is a pretty perfect summary of what's going on today
And all we get with this is 32
Different types of soap.
Why not do a video on how many company’s control advertising ? Broadcasting ?
This 👏👏👏
Maybe time to get government out of the way. Separate gov from business.
you can pretty much throw a dart at a chart of american industries and a lack of true competition in the market is a pretty obvious problem
This made me cry. It’s Very moving to me as a small rancher owner
Ehh you get what you vote for. it's not like the people in your state are going to change how they vote
Seeing the videos of the cows being abused makes me cry quite a lot more than their abusers going out of business
When i was a young kid, before i understood politics or anything of the sort, I always thought Ronald Reagan was a great president. But now that I'm old enough to understand the world around me, I've realized the Reagan administration messed up a lot of policies that are still being felt 4 decades later.
If you need any proof, go look at a graph of the wealth gap, take a look where wages split off from productivity, it’s right on the dot of Reagan’s presidency. Reagan undid centuries of legislation put in place by the Roosevelt government specifically designed to protect the free market, in the name of “freeing it”
@@Sparkiebc *decades
thats pretty common in a two party system though. In Denmark we have more than two parties but most of the time its between the two biggest ones to govern, which means it sometimes is about how to change what the last administration have been doing. Seems to be somewhat the same thing happening in the US. Maybe not so much with Biden, but I might be wrong.
Reagan told Americans what they wanted to hear. We were moral, and good, and there would be unlimited wealth and growth. No need to worry about resource consumption, consolidation, financialization, offshoring. Some people look back fondly on those times because they felt simpler - no need to worry about the coming problems because the president said everything was going to be ok. It was all just an illusion that tricked Americans into putting off solving these big problems of inequality and resource overuse.
Raegan was a populist, most people like what he was yelling because it was what they wanted to hear.
This is real journalism. It's a shame we have so many 24-hour news networks but so little of this is going on.
They interviewed cattle farmers on a perspective of why cattle farming trade laws are not good? No right to reply? No legal experts? How is this real journalism? Please wake up John
Ironically it’s kinda the same reason as this video describes. Most of the News and media has been consolidated and is owned and controlled by the same few corporations
@@breakingcode92 Found the Cargill CEO
@@breakingcode92 how much is russia paying you comrade, you seem like a Putin lover
@@lu-dx6oh I actually hate putin with a passion. Precisely for the same reason that there is a limited amount of perspectives that get categorised as facts or their news gets classed as 'real journalism'... but I wouldn't say the west is far removed from the Philosophy Putin strives by, it is just more obscured and less overt.
My family was never involved in ranching so I am the first to have always dreamed of raising cattle on my own ranch. I researched and discovered what the video reveals. An individual ranch has little chance of succeeding........in the U. S.
So I bought a ranch and living my dream in Uruguay. Best decision ever.
What’s it like down there?
That's awesome.
I too have always dreamed of a future where I can torture animals and sell there bodies for profit!
@@MessekBroccoli beef tastes so good that's why God gave them to us.
Isn't competition still tough? With Brazil pumping out so much low quality beef that tanks the prices. Same thing they did with coffee.
It's sad how trickle-down economics often means that the costs are trickled-down but never the profits.
just as intended
Exactly! Trickle down is a very misunderstood concept in economics.
Trickle down actually doesn't mean the money will trickle down but that the rich have more money available that they will use to invest more in innovation that will/could eventually benefit us.
For example by making things more efficient and cheaper or investing in economies of scale.
(Though honestly I don't see his innovations like SpaceX and BlueOrigin trickle down much... so I guess even this theory when interpreted correctly has its flaws/limitations)
if the profits would trickle down, the investors and wouldnt do it, because its less profit for them. the maxime is to maximise profits for your own good, not the good of others
@@owennilens8892 No, trickle down isn’t even a legitimate economic form, it’s a strawman of supply side economics
Just look at what lumber prices did during the pandemic. People argue all day long that it's because so much more building going on, really? but whatever... if you look down the line the guys hauling logs from forests aren't making any more money, the guys who cut the logs down aren't making any more money, the guys who sell the rights for trees on their property aren't making any more money. Yet the few big companies who are making lumber to sell to stores(e.g. Georgia Pacific) are now having record years.
At this point, Vox should just have a series called “And Then Regan Happened”, because the Regan Administration seems to be the catalyst for a TON of our problems today.
@A B our currency as well they installed the federal reserve
@@visu550 theres nothing wrong with the federal reserve and that wasn’t Reagan.
Fr 😂
I second this!!!
Lol but people love him and Republicans swear by him .
I'm studying to become a vet but I'm from Chile in South America, i want to highlight that my country is the 8th in porcine production, 10th in poultry and 15th in turkey so as a small developing country it's really important for our economy; what happens in big countrys and already developed continents affects in so many ways. The domino effect generated by the prices in USA production also affects prices in smaller countrys like Chile
Less government doesn’t always mean more freedom. Sometimes government regulations are necessary in order to preserve freedom.
Absolutly it’s literally playing a competitive game but rejecting the judge.
Unfortunately thats usually how the right wing thinks,
Weak government has already been tried and was a total disaster. Articles of Confederation.
@@damienalvarez2957 strong government has been tried and was a total disaster. USSR
@@white3768 Only the right wing in USA xD. In USA they think that any change is against their freedom...
The problem when you vote against government regulation despite it being the thing that will keep your family business running. Regulations need to make it easier to get through the door without excessive fees but these big companies need to lose some of their power because it's almost a monopoly( yes its more than one but you get the idea).
Oligopoly is the word you're looking for.
Americans have been completely propagandized to on this. Deregulation = economic freedom or whatever. But it isn’t a fair race if there are no rules.
@@hereiseminem thanks it was escaping me this morning.
People conflate bureaucracy with regulation. People never like extra "red tape" to get things done and that is what most people reference when they talk about "regulation". However, extra forms or steps to satisfy a regulation is actually bureaucracy and should be the target of change. Unfortunately, people conflate that with "regulation" is the problem and throw the baby out with the bathwater. (One could argue that this conflation was intentional!)
so.. do you want a free market or not?
That's the hardest, most heartfelt "Yup" I've ever heard.
Great reporting. No agenda trying to be pushed, just clearly laying out the history and facts. Keep it up.
🤣 Amazing joke
There's no doubt going to be an agenda as the series continues, but I do like the factual reporting here & I hope the agenda follows the path this seems to be on, of looking at corporations rather than blaming innocent individuals for the world's failures
Theyre clearing pushing an agenda. It was a very one sided video. They never point out the fact how more efficient meat processing is and how accessible meat now is. There are pros and cons to things and it seems like they only focused on the cons
@@jorgeavelar98 I'm sorry but seeing "easier acces to meat" as a pro is such an old and idiotic 1950 to 2000 sentiment. 1. it's not more nutricious 2. it's capitalism trying to flex at it's finest at the expense of the climate. 3. it's morally disgusting. Go read the latest studies. The meat industry is literally a modernised version of what cigarette industry was in 1960's.
The only con is: it tastes good to most people, but does it justify hurting the climate? does it justify hurting your own health? does it justify hurting the animals?
Agreed.
my families cattle ranch is on its last generation and is about to be shut down. Its been around for 3 generations and I was upset that the last generation never taught the next generation (my generation) anything of the trade, now I think it might have been a blessing that I never got involved in that industry to begin with.
Good. No more generations of ur fam can hurt innocent beings ever again.
Keep it running! I’m the first generation on our family farm. We just started our cow calf production here in Texas!
@@CLOSPLAYZ what??🤣🤣
@@JaredHeimer i wish you good luck. That's how our country progress
@@CLOSPLAYZ ok...
Wow heavy feels for this one. Thank you for bringing up this issue that's looming over our entire society yet so few of us recognize it as an issue.
do this same thing for media companies and banks and lobbying companies
And the fish industry in Asia.. People think we eat some cow.Aint seen nothing to what they do to the environment.There wolnt be any fish left in the ocean soon enough
@@SpaceRanger187 w0w i thought my comment will get buried amongst hundred others here, glad people care.
as for the reply i hear you, over-fishing is a serious environmental concern threatening the complex food web and disturbing ocean flora & fauna interactions on a very big scale.
We’d need a full on docuseries to cover media companies.
"wHaT aBouT tHe MeDiA!!"
@@Prathik1989 Was that meant to be funny?
Ah yes, the problems are with Reagan’s policies and era again…
"Why is it when something happens, it is always you three?" meme with Reagan, Thatcher and Neoliberalism.
TBH food prices were higher for consumers before Regan. Liberals love higher beef and Energy prices because it spurs adoption of renewables and plant based diets.
@@2017NationalChamps You make that seem like a bad thing. Renewables are more sustainable and cutting out beef is better for your health.
Hindsight is 20/20...if you're willing to look
@@Mystro256 how did I make it seem like a bad thing? I just stated it as a matter of fact.
My hometown of Dubuque, Iowa was hit really hard by the consolidation of the meat packing industry. At one point in the early 80s, we had the highest unemployment rate out of any city in the country (about 25%). 40 years later, the city is still struggling to come back.
Thank you for sharing this video.
don't blame the corporations, dont even blame their lobbyists. blame the government that for some interesting reason decides it is entitled to a piece of every apple pie in the country.
I am not even from America and I felt the pain that these people feel. It really doesn't matter where you live we all feel the same feelings.
This was really good! Great story!
You are lucky you are not American;these Americans will soon or later will be slaughtered by Other nations..INDIA;China;Russia...
"The problem is the consumption behavior. We have came to the point that we only care about making more money." - Courage the Cowradly Dog
From what episode is this?
Why you blaming the consumer? There is a system which is bend to profit a few. Now there so big nobody can touch them
Like the Samsung Empire of South Korea? >.>
We started getting all of our chicken pork and beef from a local family farm 2 years ago. I’ve been to the farm, our daughter has played with their children and we know they treat their livestock humanely. We pick up our meat monthly and see our farmers every time we pick it up.
Local killing doesn't make it ethical. Since when did a murder taking place closer to someone make it alright?
"Why is it when something happens, it is always you three?" meme with Reagan, Thatcher and Neoliberalism.
Every president since FDR has been a neoliberal for the most part, don’t blame it on conservative leaders solely since liberal leaders especially in the US are just as guilty as their conservative counterpart
Luckily we in the small farming communities still have a local locker and the farmers that raise the beef to buy it from. Every locker I know of is booked for months ahead with locals buying a half or whole beef or hog and beating the retail price.
We also have better idea of how our food was raised when we can drive by the farm.
It's good to have an idea of what's in your food and on your plate. Also, we need to keep our local farms in business so we still have food when "supply chain" shortages happen or when big box stores pack up and leave.
Dude said he lives in the same house his grandpa built in the 1800’s that’s amazing
Back then they knew how to build houses.
How long do your houses last? Mine was built 1692
@@chasjacks9378 the French and Chinese are the best home builders tho. There homes have lasted 100s of years longer than America was even a country
@Krazer there are still Roman homes being used today!? I thought even the Palaces were mostly ruins now! Please tell me! where you saw this Roman home?
The Irony of people who voted for "less-regulation-government" and losing their family businesses due to the consequences of the same policy!
Dude tell me about it. I can feel bad for them but that’s the product of their Vote
It's hard to feel bad for people that consistently vote against their own best interest all so they can "own the libs"
That's the gag about republicans, they are the party of big corporations but use the small people to deregulate industries, it's wild to watch this video but still have people debate on free healthcare, free education, free housing, sooner or later corporations will eat everything up, people will wonder why did we give up so much for so little
Leopards ate my face
Vox always produces high-quality videos like this that focus on social issues. Great work!
What worries me most, as a Kiwi, is that the rest of the world see’s the profit American corporations reap and think ‘What a fantastic idea, let’s try that here! We can make all the money.’ Capitalism isn’t, by definition, destructive. Being greedy, by definition, is. Cheers Yankees.
Capitalism is always destructive because being greedy is what the market incentivizes.
Capitalism makes being greedy the most successful behaviour.
It may not be destructive by definition, but destruction is ultimately a conclusion: the environment and its resources aren't economically valuable when left in tact. It's always more profitable to destroy and abuse nature in the short term, and capitalism forces companies to ONLY consider the short term, even at the detriment of the long term (as long as it isn't personally their problem).
Wow u all seem intelligent while me being here like: U are a kiwi 🥝🤨
Capitalism is by definition destructive, though here capitalism is defined as an economic system where NO government regulation is involved. That means that on a left-right economic scale is at the right extreme. The left extreme is communism. The system that America uses, Neo-liberalism (a system introduced by Reagan) is in the center of the right part of the line (i.e in the middle between center-right and capitalism). The system that America used before Reagan and that most European countries use is Liberalism, which is centre right. The system that the Nordics use is Social Democracy, which is centre-left, and finally, the system that Venesuela uses is socialism, a system to the left of social democracy. Time and time again, it has been proven that America needs to switch at least to Liberalism. So, capitalism in the economic sense is always destructive, but capitalism in the popular sense (i.e. an economic system that is right-leaning) is not always destructive, as we can see and learn from Europe.
@@nzuckman how do you define “pollution per capita”? I know of plenty of countries that have higher CO2 emissions per capita.
Everything always boils down to Reagan and Thatcher.
Her? The effect crossed the Atlantic?
Actually prosperity in UK agriculture peaked in 1996 , from the point Labour were elected in 1997 things nosedived.
Ruan Costa just stick to what you actually know, like how to order your coffee, cause talking about things you know nothing about just really isn't working out for you.
@@auldfouter8661 Thatcher was not in office in 1996
@@dbclass4075 Reagan ruined US and Thatcher ruined UK, is that hard for you?
Great documentary. Striking parallels between what happens in US Beef and in farms globally (Indian farm situations are similar), of building more and more concentrated supply chains while pricing out family businesses
I love how people think that if they buy one brand of meat versus another brand that they’re buying different meat in reality they all probably came from the same slaughterhouse
Just don’t buy brand meat. Buy local and/or organic.
It's the same with most industrialized food and beverages. Few brands like Unilever, Nestlé, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Mondeléz, Kellogg's, Kraft Heinz, General Mills... own almost every brand you buy.
In the UK, I have never really seen brands for raw meat, except for processed meats like sausage and bacon. Everything is just the supermarket branding
Just stop eating meat.
@@adamt195 I did ten years ago. Haven’t eaten it since.
11:45 The rancher almost breaking down here is really heart-wrenching. My heart aches when I hear him talk. This means a lot to him.
We need more honest content like this.
That’s not the only industry like that, while more well known, another industry that a video on would be great is the timber prices and that of the lumber market
yessirr!!!
Yes, we have cattle and timber. Can't even thin our trees, which would be good for the environment and fire danger. There aren't anymore mills close to take them too, which makes us have to pay to get rid of trees.
Absolutely… it’s the exact same story. Large mills bought out the small ones giving log producers less choice of who to sell too and building code regulations requiring graded lumber prevent the formation of new small scale operations.
Not to mention tech companies too. It’s across the board. Google, Apple, Samsung, they’re all buying up and coming businesses to weed out competition
Every industry.
Literally no one:
American cattle feeder: “They’ll feed them to an age of 700 pounds.”
It's a product to them, not a living breathing dreaming feeling being
@@attackandsnack a tasty one too
Also, due to fast growth or slow growth in the cattle, age doesn't really matter to them. The optimal weight of the cattle is what they're really looking for.
I wonder what Brad's age is! 220 lbs?
@@attackandsnack yes cows have many hopes and dreams lol
trickle down economics sure does work… in the complete opposite way. thanks reagan
Brilliant work. Feed lots are disasters for the environment and the rise of cheap beef and its diet of corn and grains has created a multitude of health issues for our country, and the cattle.
I knew the answer before I started watching the video. Learning the key players in the supply chain and pricing was very informative. Great video.
Glad I buy from local farms and don’t support Tyson. It can be unfortunately expensive but I think it’s worth it to not compromise my values
Thank you for directly supporting my fellow cattlefolks. Have you had the opportunity to tour a farm near you?
thank you so much for choosing to buy meat from local farms instead of those big factory farms. I'm sure the animals would thank you if they knew of the immense sacrifices you make, going out of your way to support local family businesses when paying for them to be murdered for no ethically sound reason whatsoever. Good job!
@@lereff1382 murdered????? Are you that ridiculous? Why don't you go tell a lion not to "murder" a zebra, or does that not fit your propagandists agend.
@@bradsmith5838 If you leave it to PETA or these other guys out here, they'll start prosecuting all wild animals for surviving and start to regulate their diets to an all vegan meal. LOL.
I am from small landholding cattle Rearing family in India and l can feel his pain at 11:40 down to bottom of my 💓 . It's really heartbreaking to see his family legacy from 1882 getting destroyed by some money minded vultures. Agriculture or cattle rearing is a completely different emotional experience. People living in rural hinterland will only get that not some city educated snobs getting business mgmt degrees. with fast pace of globalisation and the way govt is pushing legislation without giving two hoots about protection of innocent farmers. It took America about 40 years to reach this stage if 3 recently cleared now suspended laws aren't withdrawn India would be in much worse situation in about 8-10 year's
India can have cattle?
@@dizzy328 Why Not. India is one of the oldest civilizations to master cattle herding and agriculture maybe not the size of American Ranches now but Almost every indian Farmer is doing cattle herding as a supplementary activity.
@@ramnareshgurjar4427 don't 20 and out of the 29 Indian states ban cow slaughter? Is it just not enforced?
@@jacksevert3099 Yeah and he is probably from the states that dont ban cow slaughter. Remember each Indian state has a population of a country in Europe or AFrica
@@sadiqrahman2961 Uttar Pradesh state has a population of 250 million. Much more than any European country. More than every country other than China, India and USA.
I became a vegetarian at the age of 6 after witnessing a goat slaughter. Became a vegan two years ago after learning about the cruel practices of dairy industry and the ill effects it has on human health.
We all can contribute for a better future.
Good for you and keep at it. But, quoting a classic "You can't change a thing on your own, so why even try?" This is the point a lot of these videos miss. It should be more long term, visionary solutions instead of complaining for the sake of doing it.
@@kubalibre I think I have understood your point and I think that's a fair argument. I am not coaxing those who don't want to change their ways. It's just that some of us who want to... I wanted to connect with them.
@@kubalibre I stopped eating beef after I read that its the worst food by CO2 emissions. I've tried to go mostly vegetarian, but still eat chicken occasionally. My GF and I made the choice to basically stop buying meat at the grocery store, and to only eat meat if we're at a restaurant or family's house. Everyone can make that decision. You don't need beef in your diet, you can substitute it with chicken, pork, fish, or any vegetarian option.
that’s cool and all but ima keep eating meat
@@adamt195 Absolutely! I could never understand the need to eat meat at every meal of the day. And not one type, but chicken, egg, bacon( pig), ham, steak.. and much more in a single meal.
Such lifestyle is dangerous for our health and unsustainable environmentally.
Interesting video about America and American ranchers.
Greed consumes itself, like killing the golden goose. Those who take more, leaving others with less, rely on those same others for what they get!
Politicians: "Small businesses are the backbone of our economy"
Small Businesses: "So, protection please?"
Politicians: "Lol no"
So in short - The current inflation phenomena is caused by greedy oligopolies. Not because of demand and supply but because of direct market power of oligopolies.
Why did this just become a problem when Biden became president? If these 4 companies have all the power they would have done this before 2021.
No whats causing the inflation is the unsure future of the cattle industry under this administration. An administration that wants to get rid of this industry under the green deal.
@@johntrent151 I'm pretty sure they were doing it before. Now it's even worse.
@@mercdragons so you're telling me, 4 big players with market power doesn't do anything. Come on man, study some economics. Monopolies/Oligopolies are price setters because they have the power to do set prices.
@@therealcool1144 Why did it just become a problem in 2021? Hint… Let’s go Brandon!
Once the cattle leave the pasture, that is when the real wolves emerge.
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE that's how commercial herds are, "aged" because many different types of beef cattle reach 700 pounds at different stages in their life.
So many segments of the American economy are like:
Things were OK and then Reagan came along.
Edit: Spelling
It’s reigen but close enough
@@Kazwire lol u got it wrogn to.
All the people in this video have voted for Republicans since the 1970s. No mercy. No pity.
Not just the economy, frankly.
@@robertshelton3796 excuse me??
Excellent job, Vox.
Viewers, spread the word: Tell your Congress-person to help those cattle ranchers out. They are honest, extremely hard working people. What wasn't shown here is that, that auction process (competitive bidding) is, often times, the only break those ranchers get from a 7 day work week. Cattle herds need feed and attention every day of the year.
That once a week auction, for the rancher, runs from the morning until early afternoon. Even during their break, these ranchers are working on maintaining the quality of their herds.
Thank you for this. This issue is huge, as you showed. The fact that big companies control the market means that the small guys don't get the money they're due, and that they need. It's plain obvious, but I'm a scientist, not an economist... 😉
Im a cattle rancher, i own several farms here in Malaysia, pretty interesting to see how the US beef industry works.
how does it work in Malaysia by comparison?
@@mehere8038 our government subsidise cattle farmer here quite generously because we import so much beef with only the population of 30 mil we’re the 10th biggest beef importers in the world so the government wants the domestic cattle farmer to produce more high end cattle beef to satisfy the domestic demand, so they heavily subsidised us, we also have the same system used by cattle farmers in Australia albeit not on the same scale since we are a fairly small country compared to Australia massive land mass.
@@shamerzaihan8638 good move on their part imo. Always good to be independent in food supplies, I think covid's taught us that well!. What system is that in Australia though? I'm not aware of massive subsidies for cattle farmers in Australia, is that what you're talking about or something totally different? I think I might be getting confused/not following what you're saying correctly
@@mehere8038 no what i meant is in terms of how a cattle ranch operates its quite similar to our Australian counterpart, government policy wise its a different story hehe.
@@mehere8038 u see the explanation by OP right? There's a gimmick. You must be very well connected or person of particular race to apply most of the low interest subsidy. My brother tried to apply it, it was blatantly rejected. Well because of the color of the skin.
I found this to be a great explanation of the currently flawed system. I see this far too often with conventional cattlemen raise a product only to be met with ever diminishing margins when he goes off to the sale barn. In someway, I'm almost gleeful to see the ransom-ware attack against JBS as its aftereffects shed light on the severely concentrated nature of the industry and thus point consumers to direct marketing outlets like farmers markets.
All of them should unite, try to form a cooperative society where the benefit is with the lower tier cattle producers until it reaches the Factory.
The company shouldnt be allowed to buy unless they come to the auction, thereby all from top to bottom gets fair price. Cooperative strength can outsmart the cooperation strength.
U forgot how businesses hate cooperation. If one group is not listening, just replace them.
Allow me to introduce you to the 80s union busting
@@david-rd2qc look up Amul model
Now do a video a out a handfull of companies who own music/production/media companies
Three top be exact and it's like that for a lot of industries
oy vey shut it down
@Jord The Canadian including this channel
@@bri1085 well duh it's a news channel
Lol it's a mediaopoly!
Great documentary. Shows how it isn't all about supply and demand but about market power.
Another huge problem are bacteria with multiple resistances against antibiotics. If such bacteria spread in one packing plant they spread to an extremely large group of meat consumers.
i cba with meat
but imagine another pandemic
Rappers control 90% of the world's beef
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Its incredible how much affect Ronald Reagan has had over not just the US but the world.
I just read Lenin's "Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism" and this whole story fits the script just right
How much does murder relate to capitalism? Since Lenin was an expert at it, he would've made an amazing capitalist.
@@MrBumbo90 you should listen to the Revolutions podcast by Mike Duncan especially the most recent parts on the Russian revolution. It does a great job of showing how the people involved changed throughout their lives and proves the saying "power corrupts
Lenin , you mean the guy who genocided every single farm owner
Also Lenin: concentrated almost all the power of the supposed soviets to a small politburo, invaded poland, southern russia and central asia and fricking regulated the farmers industries through forced collectivization
11:50 is heartbreaking.
He’s not crying , he had something in his eye
If you buy kosher beef, you are not buying from any of the entities mentioned in this report. However, the kosher beef market is becoming consolidated as well. It would be interesting to see a report on the kosher meat industry.
Imagine if we all stopped eating beef and showed them!! I had a classmate who was punk and didn't eat animals in 1984 in Irvine, Ca. His name was Scott and he was super smart. The things he said to me stuck in my mind and finally in 2014 after decades of health of issues and experience, I chose to go vegan.
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Wow 1984, amazing. He must've been very intelligent
Veganism is the future. For sustainability of our planet, nature and humanity. Plus these poor animals do not need to suffer.
@@koopag8 Yes he was. He didn't wear leather and I am grateful he took the time to teach me about the reasons we should avoid eating animals. It's interesting how one's life changes after giving up eating animal flesh. The most profound experience is when other animals no longer see you as a predator and treat you as their friends. Did you know that the majority of leather comes from dogs and cats that are skinned alive in CHINA? Yes, ALIVE, because it is easier to peel them that way. I don't recommend those videos because it will haunt for the rest of your life.Please make a choice to be kind and not eat animals anymore. God loves all his creation!
Look at many industries and they're already consolidated to just a handful of players.
UA-cam pls fix the bot problem!
Yeah some industries need better regulations. Here in Scandinavia we have basically one company in milk and processing of milk into various products called Arla. However its called a good monopoly, because it needs to be big enough to compete against other companies of the same size in Europe and the rest of the world. Here the producer is part owners of the manufactoring part (as said before, Arla) so they have power to enforce higher prices for their milk if the company is doing well and opposite if demand for milk should fall. So its basically a self-regulating business, I wonder if there are similar types of businesses out there.
@@Munchausenification Yes monopolies are ok when they are competing with the rest of the world. I am hoping Scandinavian farmers can sell milk to other processers in Europe, so they aren't forced to sell cheap for Arla. Is this how it works?
@@thetimelapseguy8 Not every dairy farmer is part of the Arla business, but id say 90-95% are. Actually I was wrong in my first comment. the farmers ARE the owners of the company 100%.
This is from their website on the subject: Arla is a dairy cooperative, owned by more than 9,700 farmers. All the benefits from the sale of Arla’s products go back to those owners. The owners live in seven countries in Northern Europe and they share the earnings equally on each litre of milk they deliver to Arla. Our cooperative roots go all the way back to the 1880s and our structure means that we work collaboratively to create a sustainable long term future for the dairy industry.
This video is about the meat industry, but this problem exists in literally every single industry in the US. It's very simple: When the government stays small and doesn't intervene in business, corporations take advantage and get greedy. There will never be an occasion where that isn't true.
The problem is too much regulation, not too little
@@universenerdd what are you talking about? The problem in the video is that the government isn't regulating the size of these middlemen, causing a sales squeezes for producers and price increases for consumers.
@@GEMTelemaco do you farm? It's very quiet obviously the government trying to control every small thing
I’m really looking forward to seeing more from this series!
This just shows that differences your career, political beliefs, or way of life doesn’t matter - large institutions, be it government or business, will always take everything and leave you with nothing, that’s what happens when power is consolidated. I am a very different kind of person from the ranchers shown here, but I feel their pain.
I read an article somewhere around late summer 2021 that a bunch of cattle ranchers in the US are banding together to make their own meatpacking operation. That's where the profit$ are. There's some kind of antitrust case going on with 2 of the meatpackers fixing prices. I wish you good luck cattle ranchers.
Mr. Kammerer said we're loosing a legacy and he's right. However, were also loosing our country. The money being brought in by packers is not being spent on the needs of individuals Americans in rule communities but instead being hoarded and spent on temporary wants.
The day this slaughter industry goes down and out of business will be a good day for the world. We're already on a good track.
And elites who rule the world will destroy the cows and force us to eat slop flop meat lol
The thing is, it won't go out of business, not anytime soon. And all the while it isn't going out of business, the cattle will pay the price, their lives will be far, far worse when all these small independent ranchers are run out of business. No matter what way you look at it, if we don't help out these ranchers, their animals will pay the price.
@@G33KSPALACEdotCOM seeing the free fall of dairy industry one can't help thinking that meat industry is next, though, as you said, not anytime soon. You're also right when saying that these ranchers need help and support to transition to a new field of job and agriculture, free from all the current death, pain and torture.
inflation on meat is making alt meat achieve price parity which is exciting
Eww a beef/meat hater just watch what happens when 10 vegan mfs blocked a hungry dude trying to get mcdonalds in denmark
Here in Brazil we don't have this problem, there are many small, medium and giant meatpackers like JBS and Marfrig, we are the largest cattle producers in the world and it becomes even more evident when a Brazilian company like JBS even controls the North American market. Brazil is the future of livestock 🇧🇷🐂
Unless you get another mad cow disease outbreak!
@@jamesgilmore7317 It's no use being envious of Brazil, without our livestock production the world will not have a meat supplier because no country on this planet has the potential of Brazil to produce cattle on a large scale in a sustainable way on pasture without the mandatory use of feedlots that generate pollution and waste
@@cesarv23 I am not envious of Brazil, I am all for grass fed beef and I am against feed lots. I think it's wonderful how sustainable Brazil's beef industry is. I just meant that things can change very quickly without warning for an industry. E.g: when you could no longer export to China for a while due to the BSE scare a month ago.
when that rancher choked up i felt really bad. this is their whole lives and most likely something their parents grandparents built up. the pressure to keep it running successfully is really taking a toll on him.
I disagree with the statement that consumers are paying the price. Meat price is artificially low, as meat prices don't reflect external costs on, for instance, the environment or human health. Meat should be much more expensive, not less.
Just so long as that extra revenue goes into developing more humane farming practices and pro environmental efforts rather than lining the pockets of rich big business owners
Meats also highly subsidized which they didn't even mention and wonder why
Meat as it currently exists just cannot continue without subsidies, if there were no subsidies, the price would shoot up fivefold, and less people would buy it, so everyone would go out of business other than very few, which isn't a bad thing, I hope your guys' taxes don't go to killing and torturing animals
Extremely interesting video, will keep an eye on this new series.
Great video - rare to see antitrust broken down into such a simple and comprehensible video (while still conveying the complexity of how markets work). More of this please!
My family's ranch in Texas is 300 head
Neighbors just hit bankruptcy with their ranch and we are struggling and honestly with how things are going not far behind
I am sorry to hear that. I hope your family will make it.
We are cow/calf and just for an example, the price for us to sell right now is 20 cents lower per lb than last year. Last year we broke even. Our cost to run has been affected by inflation this year too. Now think about how much the price has gone up at the store.
Oh man another example of Reagan being directly responsible for problems we're facing today.
Isnt it appropiate to think in larger terms? Neoliberalisms fault? Im not too much into politics, but have their been attempts from later presidents and administrations to remedy Reagans actions? If not, id probably consider it a broader problem than Reagan.
@@Munchausenification Oh the problem is definitely wider than just Reagan but as he is a major starting point for setting up the policies and ideas that are still hurting us now.
@@GeneralGray8 Makes sense. I wonder if the disparity between state laws and federal laws and de-regulation of them can have a "trickle-down" effect - to use his own words, since it should be able to go both ways. One impacts the other and if that is impacting the other part in a good way, it doesnt have to lead to a overall good trickle down, it might just not go anywhere or even end in a bad "trickle-down"
"if it trickled down." Bet all these guys vote GOP. Trickle down economics has been failing this country for decades.
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Completely untrue. But left-wing liberals would never tell you this. People who lived through Reagn era loved him becasue they know how bad it was under Carters admin, when Reagan took office he completely turned that around. Under Carter interest rates were outrageously high, you literally could only buy gas on certain days of the week, or if your license plate ended in a 3 for example. Not too mention he gave away the Panama canal.
Similarly in Botswana where probably the best quality beef is produced globally the Botswana Meat Commission controls the entire value chain.
there is no phrase that causes a sense of foreboding quite like "under the Reagan administration..."
Much Respect for the Ranchers & Farmers! 🌞
Thank you
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Add to this the ecological impact of the meat industry on carbon emissions, and it's evident that this industry shouldn't exist.
I remember reading a paper studying the climate impact of cow and cattle production and the conclusion was a far lower impact than expected based on previous papers. Ill try and look for it if you like.
Vox don’t miss these days
They are KILLING the game and telling the truth
As a cow and calf producer this is a serious problem thank you Vox for making this video
this is all industries, really. tyson, smithfield, perdue own almost all of the chicken/pork industry too
thank you for bringing attention to this issue, while I myself haven't been affected by the ruin of the meat industry my really rurally rooted family has been.
Videos like this remind me why I subscribed to this channel
If Democrats want to win in rural states and counties a good place to start would be to pass stricter anti-trust laws and increasing farm subsidies to family farms. Listen to the problems farmers have and try to do something about it
We don't need subsidies if the markets were more free. American cattle producers can not compete with beef being brought in the states from another country were their regs are nonexistent so as to not know what's in the beef.
If democRats want to win in rural districts (that they couldn't care less about) they need to rid the party of Nancy Piglosi, Shumer, Nadler,FJB, etc. This video is well intended, but 180 degrees off center. (it wasn't Reagan) Regulations on the packers closed hundreds of slaughter houses all over the country and the big ones have full control over pricing.
Happy to live in another country where a lot of farmers found their way by selling to regional consumers directly and therefore not giving the profit away to these big companies.
This is beyond an American problem but a North American problem. We as cattle producers in Canada face the same companies and the same bottlenecks. Laws are changing north of the 49 to allow ranchers to market directly to the consumer through a local small town abattoir. We had a large uptake in calls from urban friends wanting to buy beef when a local Cargill plant was closed due to a COVID outbreak. It’s great to see and know about where your food comes from and most in the industry would be more than happy to pass along the truth (from the horses mouth) about beef production. If you can please do support a local rancher for beef. Or attend a 4H sale and support our youth to fill your freezer and contribute to their future. The cost of a full beef as well as the volume of meat can be overwhelming in a once a year purchase, but the savings to the consumer as well as the boost to your local economy has vast benefits.
Thank you for keeping the focus on important stuff that shouldn't be overlooked by the average person.Keep up the good work! Remember to SUPPORT VOX people! Our contributions help keep them reporting. They keep us enlightened.
I remember going to the Auction with my Grandpa. " Boy U need to learn how this work cuz this will be all yours". "But Pa; this ain't right!"..."Boy this how I make a living!" 👀👀👀👀
Somehow I doubt any of that occurred.
@@VexChoccyMilk Peace and Blissings.
This is journalism right here! Didn't make anyone the enemy just told us who did what and we have to decide who the enemy is.
I love how we have to think about enforcing laws that were created to solve the exact problem we are facing
We replaced plains bison with cattle, the ecological impacts of removing cattle from the environment will destroy natural areas. This isn't about the death of ranches, it's about increasing wildfires, unhealthy forests, the loss of native grasslands which have all but gone extinct. Cattle ranches stand as a bulwark against human expansion into natural areas by providing a value to otherwise worthless land that would be otherwise destroyed by human encroachment. If you care about natural areas you care that ranches exist.
Ok, I understand your direction but I think that you're a little malinformed. Please actually take the time to read this, I mean well, don't just look away.
Firstly, yes, the dwindling in wild american bovid species is very bad for the environment and they play a key role, the problem is that farmed cattle do not fill this same niche, they are fed crops that are grown for them in giant single crop farms all of continent, they don't spread seeds across fields or take down the small shrubs that are so devastating in wildfires.
Secondly, cattle ranches are a prime indicator of human expansion, not a bulwark against it, look at the aerial shots in this video, the entire areas are entirely fenced and unforested with millions of cows being packed in.
Thirdly, your point of bringing value to valueless land isn't completely true, cattle farming is subsidised by the government, so much so that without the subsidies the cattle industry would be a net negative, in other words, tax payers basically create the cattle industry, and they don't get their money back.
Lastly, cattle farming directly destroys natural areas in most cases, for example, the amazon is being actively cut down to make room for cattle ranches, in the U.S., instead of the amazon it was forests and prairies that got destroyed for the making of cattle ranches. In fact, around 1/3 of the US's land area is just cattle ranches and farms that supply them with grain and grass.