You’re Making Your Three Dots and a Dash WRONG!
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Matt Pietrek’s Article: cocktailwonk.c...
There's been a lot of talk recently about recreating old rums used during the golden age of tiki. One topic that always comes up is martinique rhum, and whether or not we should be using the martinique rhum we have today or something different. So today we’re going to be mixing up a few three dots and a dash and doing a side-by-side comparison.
So sit back, relax, and let’s do this.
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Three Dots and a Dash
1.5oz Martinique Rhum
.5oz Aged Demerara Rum
.5oz Honey Syrup (1:1)
.25oz Allspice Dram
.25oz Falernum
.5oz Orange Juice
.5oz Lime Juice
1 dash Aromatic Bitters
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Has anybody tried Rhum Barbancourt. I would think it would more fit the profile. It's 100% Sugar Cane Rhum aged in Oak 4 years. I used that when I couldn't find Martinique Rhum. I think you might be surprised.
@@noahcurcio8912 if you like it great, but it still doesn’t quite align with the original style Martinique rum that was used.
I've done this experiment before and my conclusion was that Donn and Vic must've been using the grand arome martinique style in the Mai Tai and Three Dots. I can't imagine Vic thinking that a good replacement for Wray and Nephew 17/15 would be an agricole of all things.
Yes and no. Still not the Grand arome we get now-a-days, which is typically unaged.
It would have been something similar, but still different.
It looks like it was not the Grand Arôme but a different style of industrial rhum. Le Galion produces three types of rum: Grand Fond Galion, Le Galion and a Grand Arôme style. Perhaps one of the other two was more similar.
Excellent again. Love your comparisons.
Thanks so much!
I swapped in OFTD for all classic tiki drinks that called for Martinique rhum after reading Matt's article. I think the all OFTD Three Dots is superb in all ways. It works extremely well in the donga punch too.
Now that Donga Punch would a knockout lol
Tried this with denizen 8 year as a replacement and it made a great cocktail
Denizen is great!
An interesting experiment for sure. Before I could find rhum agricole I made this with el dorado 12 and appleton 12 or Newfoundland Screech or a local yum black strap rum. Honestly love them all. Even the rhum agricole each are different and still familiar. 😋
Ooo the 12+12 sounds delicious
I knew the whole thing about Martinique molasses rum in classic tiki cocktails, and yet I never questioned the use of agricole in a Three Dots. This video makes me want to do a side-by-side comparison as well!
It was a lot of fun!
Very interesting history lesson here. I've made my Three Dots with a split base of demerara/dark Jamaican for a while now and always thought they just mixed much better with the heavy spice component of the drink. Glad to see my instincts were right.
Yup, dark Jamaican and aged Demerara are one of my top pairings.
@@MixingUpTiki Agreed.
I follow the recipe that the folks at Three Dots and a Dash use which subs Dry Curacao for the OJ. The rest of the ingredients match up.
Yea Paul McGee’s version is def good
Nice video! That’s like $15 worth of cherries you used!
Haha and they tasted like $15 worth lol 😂
A must see video! Thanks
3 dot is on of my favorite cocktails. Years ago I came to the same conclusion about the Martinique rhum not balancing well in this cocktail so I use 1 oz Demerara and 1 oz Martinique
Molasses-based rhum is still being produced in Martinique. Look at Le Galion.
It’s def not the majority though and it looks like it only produces one aged molasses based rum, their dark rum, and iv never seen anyone try it.
@@MixingUpTiki I just got confused because the video sort of drew a line of past and present Martinique rhum styles when it isn’t like that. They made sugarcane juice and molasses rhums historically just as they do now. Agricole wasn’t (or was rarely) exported back then and now things have reversed for us in the US. Kind of funny.
@@maitaioneon exactly. I do mention it briefly in the very beginning of the video.
The whole point is that back during Vic and Donn’s time the Martinique rum they had access to isn’t the same as the Martinique Rhum Agricole most of use today.
Good morning. Although I'm French, I'm not a big fan of agricultural rums and their musty herbaceous flavors (well seen because that's exactly it 😁👍). There are some that have a strong herbaceous flavor 🤢 and others very few that are well scented and pleasant to taste. So it will completely change the taste of the cocktail. I tested this battle with WP 109 and the Depaz gold agricultural rum and a preference for the WP porte ci, the Depaz brings its little Martinican funk too. Cheers 🧉
I’v never even heard of some of those rums! That’s soo cool!
Cheers.
Was just about to make this drink but looking for substitutions for Rhum agricole- nice video to justify my swapping 🙂👍
Cheers!
Just found your channel, subscribed! I LOVE a ..._, it's one of my favorite cocktails, and I really do enjoy what the aged agricole brings to the party. But I'm going to mix one up with some Coruba right now, or perhaps some OFTD. And I agree with you, the Scorpion isn't that great haha. Cheers and mahalo!
Mahalo! Thanks for the support.
The •••- with OFTD is amazing!
Haven't tried Three Dots and a Dash with Coruba OR Clement, but I really like the drink with Avua Amburana Cachaça as a sub for the Martinique rum. Its warm spice notes pair really well with the falernum and allspice in the drink. I'd also like to try it with La Favorite 4 year (or La Favorite VSOP, which is just like the 4-year but bottled at 84 proof instead of 80). If you haven't tried those products, they have these warm spice notes that make it very different (and more interesting) than other rhum agricole
I have not but I’ll def put them on the list
@@MixingUpTiki Btw I’ve never seen La Favorite 4 year or VSOP in Boston; I got both at Astor Wines in New York. But Avua Amburana Cachaça can be found around here. The 18-month La Favorite Ambre can also be found here, but I find it does NOT work in •••- because it’s too overpowering at 100 proof.
Im all for having multiple drinks under the guise of research!
I mean I clearly had to drink them…. In the name of science lol
@MixingUpTiki exactly! Tiki drinks are also a great barometer of drunkenness! If you can still make a tiki drink, your not too drunk and can keep drinking. Lol.
I didn't know that back story ablut ancient Martinique Rum, but I switched the Rum to a Molasses one anyway because I also wasn't too convinced of it in this drink.
Good intuition
I think something is wrong with YT, this video would not load on my cocktail channel account, and that account ONLY, very strange. Anyway... This topic is interesting to me because of the Mai Tai...I've made Mai Tai's with Rhum Blanc and Vieux and I just dont like it...at all. It does not taste like something that was intended. Pretty sure, like you said, the Rums are just different nowadays. Im looking into Barbancourt Rhum now, maybe that was closer to the original.
Still wont load, tried multiple connections and browsers, only this account wont load it. Strange.
That’s so strange! Sorry.
While I think you're probably correct about the taste profile of the rum originally used in Don's drink, there's another angle to consider. Three Dots and a Dash was Morse code for V, for Victory, and (Colonel) Don Beach created it to celebrate victory in WWII. The inclusion of French and British rum in a drink created by an American is - I think - symbolic of the Allied partnership. Granted, a historically accurate version would need a big slug of vodka, but considering current events, let's just leave that alone. So I suppose it's each bartender's call, flavor profile accuracy or memetic accuracy.
The rums that Donn would’ve used were still French and British. It’s just that the french Martinique rum wasn’t Rhum Agricole, which is what most people use today.
@@MixingUpTiki Agreed, but my main point was, using a French rum of some sort today, even if it's a different flavor profile, still preserves a non-flavor related element of the historical drink.
lovely would you be able to suggest a few alternatives for the Coruba? You know for the none US peeps ;-)
Blackwells and Myers are your two best bets
or Worthy Park 109!
@@C.Fel. while WP109 is great, it’s def a lot more funky than what we’re looking for here. We want something lightly funky.