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That’s who needs fired. Whoever scouted Watson and thought this guy still had something. When it became obvious every time he was on the field and couldn’t compete a pass. He’s a lot slower and his arm strength was overrated and he didn’t wanna learn Stefanski offense. Flacco showed up Watson so bad it was obvious last year Watson wasn’t anywhere near what he was in Houston. This guy is getting his karma now. And it’s becoming more obvious his off field behavior is probably true also. Nobody wants to deal with the scumbag he’s become
@@Browns4life Stumbling in the playoffs & getting you butt whopped doesn't count. But I'm keep watching the steelers get their butts handed to them every time they do the same thing.
@Browns4life Yeah. Watson went 5-1 last year, too. It's almost like Watson isn't the reason Stefanski went 3-14 this year. Fired his OC and shit the bed calling plays. 😂 Coach of the Year 🎉
Wow. What an era of browns football that was. Insane roller coaster for us. Deshaun was one of my favorite players in college and in Houston. I was excited out of my mind when we got him. Those first 6 games he looked like garbage but everyone convinced themselves it was okay. The same thing kept happening and then Flacco and Winston opened our eyes. Through all that the Browns are still in a position to compete now after the draft and free agency. LETS GO BROWNS thanks for the video Petey
This is true, but that's because Jimmy Haslam decided to willingly bend this organization over a barrel by not sticking with his QB. They said that "They needed an Adult in the room" when Mayfield was there. Well, what do you expect when you draft a rookie. The purpose is for him to develop and grow within your organization. The Browns front office decides to pay Watson a quarter billion dollars, to be an "adult" but is incapable of learning the offense in 2 years. You never heard this sort of nonsense with Baker Mayfield, even when having 4 HC's and 4 OC's in 4 years. I have never in my life seen a trade so bad, that 3 years after the trade occurred new information comes out reinforcing how desperately bad this trade was by the Browns.
The Browns have been the worst run organization in all of sports for 25 years and it's not even close. I still think we'll see another Cavs title and even a Guardians title before the Browns make a Super Bowl, let alone win one.
Watson was 5-1 last year. Flacco was 4-1. That Watson not able to run the scheme narrative is nonsense. Stefanski is just a Bum. What type of Nfl HC doesn't know how to run a shotgun offense?
Brought in a QB that didn’t fit Stefanski offense, simply put. It’s not Flacco being better, Flacco better pocket passer from under center and Watson was better at shot gun.
As much as this article exposes Watson as a fraud , it also highlights Stefanski’s limitations as a coach. I live in Baltimore , and watched Harbaugh totally revamp the offense from Flacco to Lamar Jackson as the QB. That’s the sign of an elite coach
You make it sound like Harbaugh did that overnight…it took three years to do. Just b/c Lamar won the MVP doesn’t mean it was an effectively revamped offense.
@@duzzitmatter8679 Flacco has always been strictly a pocket passer. When the Ravens drafted Lamar he wasn’t as nearly as good a passer as he is now, and the offense was adjusted to his skill set ( RPO) . Trust me I live here. I’ve been subjected to Ravens sports news more than I care to admit.
How many superbowls does Baltimore have since Lamar got there? I mean you have a 2x MVP and as you call him an elite coach so where's the super bowl? You SHOULD win this year not because any coaching but because the GM that built this offense. But Baltimore is no better they just win more games before doing nothing.
The Athletic’s Jason Lloyd On Deshaun Watson: “For three years, the Browns contorted themselves to match Watson’s strengths and desires. But teammates ultimately grew tired of the organization catering to an ineffective quarterback, and he never really fit in Cleveland. He received at least one death threat. But after he arrived in Cleveland, Watson never embraced Stefanski’s system. He wanted to be in shotgun, and Stefanski wanted him under center to make the play-action component more effective. You have to bring Joe back; somebody has to teach Deshaun the offense,” one member of the organization said as the season neared its conclusion. “Joe picked it up faster in 30 days than Deshaun has in two years.”
That's Jason Lloyds opinion he's been wanting this whole damn thing blown up right after the season including front office and coaching staff so anything he says is just moot until he gets his wish😅😂😂😂
The part with Flacco just puts into more detail why he was let go, even though at the time it wasn’t a surprise that someone who wasn’t in camp training, coming off the couch in December was better than Watson was in the matter of games showed how bad Watson really was, so Flacco was let go. The report shows how bad mentally Watson is on learning that he was under the system for two years struggling, yet Flacco comes in and learns it under 30 days. I hope that the Browns don’t take Sanders since he’s a younger version of Watson, someone who has to be in the exact system that was built for him and will fail if it isn’t.
It has already grossly set them back. If we had a pro bowl baker and all of those draft picks and a couple of premium free agents on the 2023 roster we possibly would have a lombardi. We certainly would not be coming off of a 3 win 2024.
Prove all of us who said that this was a great thing to have DW wrong, it doesn't look that way, does it? People would bash you for saying this was a bad trade, now they have to wonder and know it was on all levels
It was pretty obvious that Cooper wanted off the team and the O line lost faith in Watson. A lot of the players have family's and they had to go to war for this guy?
Watson has just been a Huge mistake. And not bringing back Flacco to keep Watson happy is just stupid. Whether is AB fault or Stefanski they never could get Watson on board with the offense. Flacco knows the system better in 30days than Watson does in 2-3 yrs. I think Watson just trying to get AB and Stefanski fired to get another coach to cater to Watson. Now you start to see the other players frustration with this guy. Everybody is getting frustrated with Watson lack of talent and accountability. They just don’t like Watson he wasn’t the guy in locker room that had a lot of friends. I don’t see a world that Watson finds another Qb starting job in the NFL. He’s not coming back from this. Somebody may offer him a vet min contract to be a backup at best
Browns should push Dallas to swap picks and QBs. Let Watson go there while Shedur learns. Give us DAK and their pick which can be used for a top OLman.
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Nobody else is noticing AVP was awful in New England and got fired after his first year there, along with the rest of the regime? Dude isn’t a great OC and didn’t really advance the base Kubiak system at all in his time here. Needed an upgrade, though the Dorsey fit never made a lot of sense to me.
The browns gave the worst football coach in NFL history, three and a half seasons Then they get the worst quarterback in NFL history and give him 3 seasons and if he wouldn't have got hurt, they would've gave him another season.😮😮😮 Fire Andrew Barry.
Watson went 5-1 last year. Flacco went 4-1. This isn't a Watson problem. Stefanski is a bum and exposed himself after he lost his OC from last year and went 1-6 calling plays this year.
Stefanski is a bum yet you just pointed out how well he did the year before... and stefanskis record this year was all watson he gave up play calling and Ken had a better QB and won 1 more game in more games calling plays. Stefanaki gave up play calling to prove a point. He is better then whoever else was in the building. Has more coach of the year awards then all the other coaches in the north do COMBINED Im pretty sure. This year half our roster was hurt for at least half the games. Andy reid couldn't have lead this team to a winning record.
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Lol...the irony is we started having an identity on offensive when it was pure west coast with Chubb and the other running backs then we had 3rd & short to go...Most QB can operate or manage 3rd and short....The last 2 years they totally up rooted the style of that never fit how we were built...This video says it all in many ways or just made clear what many suspected
I have an efficiency tip. Simply hire me as a consultant and I will give you the accurate talking points. You are parroting what I said when avp and company was fired for these random coaches. I have said all of this and more since day 1 of the Watson trade. You can simply read from my script and be ahead of the curve.
Noooo!!! let's trade our pick to the cowboys and give Dak! he is proven he can win, NO qb in the draft = NFL ready. Dak has a good 4-6 years and we have the tools that can get us into the playoffs. The good news is Dak can take us all the way with the right team around him.
@@Grob000-q4qas if the cowboys would be willing to take that massive cap hit, or that the Browns can afford Dak They are gonna draft a QB or take a vet who will not work in this trainwreck system. They don’t have the money to get someone amazing or the talent to develop anyone into a great player
What excuses are you going to make for Stefanski's inability to get the best out of Baker Mayfield? He looks pretty good now he is away from Stefanski.
Firstly, Watson busted here. Done with him, hope he's the QB3 until that Cap can be moved. That said, HOW do you pay 250M for a QB... and NOT tailor the entire Offense to him DAY 1? That's just dumb. If you Trade what we Traded, and Paid what we Paid... you TAILOR IT TO WHAT HE DOES WELL DAY 1. Period. The fact that didn't happen is already a failing of the entire Organization.
To tailor the offense around Watson’s on day 1, Browns would have had to basically replace the whole offensive line in the beginning of 2022 season and this was before they showed signs of aging
@@michaelboano7183 If you aren't willing to move heaven and earth to tailor the Offense around the FQB... then you don't think he's the FQB, and you shouldn't be giving that much up for him. You MUST Full Commit on a move like this.
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Wow. Just wow.
woah
Goofy
Cousins.
Browns front office: We did our research on Watson. Remember that comment y’all.
That’s who needs fired. Whoever scouted Watson and thought this guy still had something. When it became obvious every time he was on the field and couldn’t compete a pass. He’s a lot slower and his arm strength was overrated and he didn’t wanna learn Stefanski offense. Flacco showed up Watson so bad it was obvious last year Watson wasn’t anywhere near what he was in Houston. This guy is getting his karma now. And it’s becoming more obvious his off field behavior is probably true also. Nobody wants to deal with the scumbag he’s become
@ I blame Texans also covering up his mistakes. They need take the blame to
We did. Apparently they didn't 💀
I remember that’s what they exactly said
Can't fire the owner this has Jimmy written all over it
Flacco threw 2 pick 6’s in a row in the playoffs. He’s over the hill.
playoffs is the optimum word in that comment
What a loser comment
Something Joe didn't get us to alone, 3 other qb's helped.
@@Browns4life Stumbling in the playoffs & getting you butt whopped doesn't count. But I'm keep watching the steelers get their butts handed to them every time they do the same thing.
@Browns4life Yeah. Watson went 5-1 last year, too.
It's almost like Watson isn't the reason Stefanski went 3-14 this year.
Fired his OC and shit the bed calling plays.
😂 Coach of the Year 🎉
Wow. What an era of browns football that was. Insane roller coaster for us.
Deshaun was one of my favorite players in college and in Houston. I was excited out of my mind when we got him.
Those first 6 games he looked like garbage but everyone convinced themselves it was okay.
The same thing kept happening and then Flacco and Winston opened our eyes.
Through all that the Browns are still in a position to compete now after the draft and free agency.
LETS GO BROWNS
thanks for the video Petey
The next time Jason Lloyd is right about “a scoop” will be the first.
Thank you for FINALLY telling the truth about how Watson decision ruined the whole Brown's team. What a bad idea to get him in the 1st place.
It has been awful from the start so disappointing from the leadership
The Browns"s did not do their homework on Deshaun Watson before they traded for him. Haslam pushed this trade and it backfired
The guys were not defending Watson. They were criticizing adjusting of the fans after a serious injury. Nothing more.
Watson only took the Cleveland offer because it was the only organization that guaranteed the full amount.
This is true, but that's because Jimmy Haslam decided to willingly bend this organization over a barrel by not sticking with his QB. They said that "They needed an Adult in the room" when Mayfield was there. Well, what do you expect when you draft a rookie. The purpose is for him to develop and grow within your organization. The Browns front office decides to pay Watson a quarter billion dollars, to be an "adult" but is incapable of learning the offense in 2 years. You never heard this sort of nonsense with Baker Mayfield, even when having 4 HC's and 4 OC's in 4 years. I have never in my life seen a trade so bad, that 3 years after the trade occurred new information comes out reinforcing how desperately bad this trade was by the Browns.
Beating a dead horse at this point
I projected a 4-13 Browns season. Never realized what an optimist I am. 😎
Now to get out of his contract and NOT repeat a 230 million dollar mistake ever again
The Browns have been the worst run organization in all of sports for 25 years and it's not even close. I still think we'll see another Cavs title and even a Guardians title before the Browns make a Super Bowl, let alone win one.
I hate that yall let ppl write things that they don’t put names things . I think ppl don’t do it because ppl can say prove what they say
Dirty laundry being aired now? Watson must be going. Imagine if he doesn't.
One of their many mistakes, to keep a player that hasn't panned out and is a huge paperweight
Stefanski was following the Haslam mandate regarding criticizing Watson. Don’t cross the boss.
Get rid of him and void his contract, end the suffering we have been subjected to by his drama and baggage
A cloud was lifted indeed. The rest of the Browns won 1 game after the injury
That's why I say trade down from 2nd OA AND trade Myles. He'll never be worth more and this team needs picks.
They won two and tanked the last 4 or 5 games.
Watson was 5-1 last year. Flacco was 4-1.
That Watson not able to run the scheme narrative is nonsense.
Stefanski is just a Bum.
What type of Nfl HC doesn't know how to run a shotgun offense?
@@Titus.The_Crucifierinsane take. Completely out of pocket and not based in reality.
a cloud was lifted....so not only did the fans cheer when he was hurt, some players did too?
Brought in a QB that didn’t fit Stefanski offense, simply put. It’s not Flacco being better, Flacco better pocket passer from under center and Watson was better at shot gun.
As much as this article exposes Watson as a fraud , it also highlights Stefanski’s limitations as a coach. I live in Baltimore , and watched Harbaugh totally revamp the offense from Flacco to Lamar Jackson as the QB. That’s the sign of an elite coach
You make it sound like Harbaugh did that overnight…it took three years to do. Just b/c Lamar won the MVP doesn’t mean it was an effectively revamped offense.
💯💯💯💯
@@duzzitmatter8679 Flacco has always been strictly a pocket passer. When the Ravens drafted Lamar he wasn’t as nearly as good a passer as he is now, and the offense was adjusted to his skill set ( RPO) . Trust me I live here. I’ve been subjected to Ravens sports news more than I care to admit.
How many superbowls does Baltimore have since Lamar got there? I mean you have a 2x MVP and as you call him an elite coach so where's the super bowl? You SHOULD win this year not because any coaching but because the GM that built this offense. But Baltimore is no better they just win more games before doing nothing.
@ ain’t no “You”. I live in baltimore. Born and raised in Cleveland, diehard Browns fan, and will remain so until the day I die
As a Texans fan I want to say “Thank Y’all” for everything. 😂
The Athletic’s Jason Lloyd On Deshaun Watson:
“For three years, the Browns contorted themselves to match Watson’s strengths and desires. But teammates ultimately grew tired of the organization catering to an ineffective quarterback, and he never really fit in Cleveland. He received at least one death threat. But after he arrived in Cleveland, Watson never embraced Stefanski’s system. He wanted to be in shotgun, and Stefanski wanted him under center to make the play-action component more effective. You have to bring Joe back; somebody has to teach Deshaun the offense,” one member of the organization said as the season neared its conclusion. “Joe picked it up faster in 30 days than Deshaun has in two years.”
We were told by Kevin Stefanski himself the offense would be "tailored around Deshawn Watson". By what you have said here that means it NEVER was.
That's Jason Lloyds opinion he's been wanting this whole damn thing blown up right after the season including front office and coaching staff so anything he says is just moot until he gets his wish😅😂😂😂
@@randyschlupp4405he’s a Stefanski apologist.
Left out the death threat...
Fire berry
The part with Flacco just puts into more detail why he was let go, even though at the time it wasn’t a surprise that someone who wasn’t in camp training, coming off the couch in December was better than Watson was in the matter of games showed how bad Watson really was, so Flacco was let go. The report shows how bad mentally Watson is on learning that he was under the system for two years struggling, yet Flacco comes in and learns it under 30 days.
I hope that the Browns don’t take Sanders since he’s a younger version of Watson, someone who has to be in the exact system that was built for him and will fail if it isn’t.
guessing the pick a card right is the most excited I've been watching these videos since last year
it is all we have at this point
We all know the DeShawn Watson trade was a disaster lets start moving forward !!
Hello Peter Matthewson
Sup Max!
Get rid of DEI front office.. bring back Dorsey
Winston is a under the center playaction qb, they had him in an offense designed for Watson.
Most of the players know what is going on
Bill Callahan is a smart man, to run from a burning building that is the Browns organization and ownership
Analysis: Haslam doesn’t know the difference between shot gun and under center. And what the difference means.
I HOPE THERES A DAY IN THE NEAR FUTURE WHERE WE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS 🤡 ✌️ DW4, THX FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
It has already grossly set them back. If we had a pro bowl baker and all of those draft picks and a couple of premium free agents on the 2023 roster we possibly would have a lombardi. We certainly would not be coming off of a 3 win 2024.
Kevin made the situation worse by switching playcallers after Watson got hurt.
For all of us Buckeyes fans, go Buckeyes and down ND
Prove all of us who said that this was a great thing to have DW wrong, it doesn't look that way, does it? People would bash you for saying this was a bad trade, now they have to wonder and know it was on all levels
Of all the QBs on roster.watson has the most upside.ouch.trade our 1st into next years 1st round.have lots of ammo to get the best QB Next year.
It was pretty obvious that Cooper wanted off the team and the O line lost faith in Watson. A lot of the players have family's and they had to go to war for this guy?
Watson has just been a Huge mistake. And not bringing back Flacco to keep Watson happy is just stupid. Whether is AB fault or Stefanski they never could get Watson on board with the offense. Flacco knows the system better in 30days than Watson does in 2-3 yrs. I think Watson just trying to get AB and Stefanski fired to get another coach to cater to Watson. Now you start to see the other players frustration with this guy. Everybody is getting frustrated with Watson lack of talent and accountability. They just don’t like Watson he wasn’t the guy in locker room that had a lot of friends. I don’t see a world that Watson finds another Qb starting job in the NFL. He’s not coming back from this. Somebody may offer him a vet min contract to be a backup at best
Have you heard anything about Jalen Melrose joining Tommy Reese in Cleveland
Put AB on the unemployment line
Watson has wrecked the entire Team. No matter what our record is, we are better off without him.
Jack is a rt he clearly has a point
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This organization has been a total disaster, but the Watson era is the absolute bottom.
Like I said before, I hope Watson never even visits Cleveland ever again.
They all acted like Browns fans / media were stupid. Like we couldn’t see what a train wreck Watson was? 🤦♀️
Just how exactly did Watson hurt his Achilles again?? How did the injury occur and not his twisted his ankle
Browns should push Dallas to swap picks and QBs. Let Watson go there while Shedur learns. Give us DAK and their pick which can be used for a top OLman.
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Nobody else is noticing AVP was awful in New England and got fired after his first year there, along with the rest of the regime? Dude isn’t a great OC and didn’t really advance the base Kubiak system at all in his time here. Needed an upgrade, though the Dorsey fit never made a lot of sense to me.
That's why we got Joe Flacco
The browns gave the worst football coach in NFL history, three and a half seasons
Then they get the worst quarterback in NFL history and give him 3 seasons and if he wouldn't have got hurt, they would've gave him another season.😮😮😮
Fire Andrew Barry.
If I'm a good coach. Player four quarterback. Why would I want to come to a dysfunctional team
The Browns front office is a joke. They should all be replaced.
Again. The Cleveland Brown's Front Office Still STINKS! You can't blame Watson.
The hell you can't
DW knew what type of offense Cleveland ran and he chose to come here
Watson went 5-1 last year. Flacco went 4-1.
This isn't a Watson problem.
Stefanski is a bum and exposed himself after he lost his OC from last year and went 1-6 calling plays this year.
L take
@prestongregoire3382 L Coach. Under .500 Loser.
3-14 Coach of the Year 🤪👌
💯💯
Stefanski is a bum yet you just pointed out how well he did the year before... and stefanskis record this year was all watson he gave up play calling and Ken had a better QB and won 1 more game in more games calling plays. Stefanaki gave up play calling to prove a point. He is better then whoever else was in the building. Has more coach of the year awards then all the other coaches in the north do COMBINED Im pretty sure. This year half our roster was hurt for at least half the games. Andy reid couldn't have lead this team to a winning record.
Its normally, used to be, achilles 1year.thats january.i mean if hes here for year 5 throw him into the mix .
He is done in Cleveland anyhow. Count your money and go off in the sunset in Miami
This guy should give it up and get a Real job
Bottom line Watson can’t read defenses period & Flacco was a freakin mastermind the west coast offense been around forever!
Watson did a workout. Stop talking about it.
Send KS packing, too.
I've been saying for 3 years stinkfanski is the problem
Does this mean we can get out of his contract?Bye, DW
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Dude you are one of the biggest Stefanski/ Watson defenders EVER 😂
FACTS !!!! & HE ISN'T THE ONLY ONE !! 💯💯 Why people are on Stefanski's nutz is crazy
Stinkfanski never holds anyone accountable especially Watson
What a mess that was !
STEFANSKI "IS NOT HIM" & BERRY MAJORLY F UP !!! 💯
This entire mess is like a soap opera starring D Watson …… a bad soap opera.
He wouldn't even make a good backup
Remember stinkfanski hired Dickerson who was terrible
I’m so tired of hearing about this guy MOVE ON
Lol...the irony is we started having an identity on offensive when it was pure west coast with Chubb and the other running backs then we had 3rd & short to go...Most QB can operate or manage 3rd and short....The last 2 years they totally up rooted the style of that never fit how we were built...This video says it all in many ways or just made clear what many suspected
Random player Joe Thomas
Stinkfanski and berry this was there 5th year and what??
Remember stinkfanski wanted Watson
Not believe this crap without names behind it
Are kidding 🙄
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That cloud was the spiritual realm Satan has lots of demons spirits around Watson
One Death Threat? His victims received *24 Massage Threats!*
Yeah he sucks! I’m just asking for a decent quarterback at this point.
Another dumb video essentially stealing someone elses work.
by giving them credit and saying everyone should go read it. Yeah publicity is a bad thing
All this shit is because of Haslam. We should’ve never traded Baker this team fuckin sucks
U are a complete homer!!! Dud podcast
He is a dark cloud , send him packing and get out of his contract
I have an efficiency tip. Simply hire me as a consultant and I will give you the accurate talking points. You are parroting what I said when avp and company was fired for these random coaches. I have said all of this and more since day 1 of the Watson trade. You can simply read from my script and be ahead of the curve.
1st! Damn. This was a very bad trade and every day it keeps getting uglier and uglier and uglier. We really need to get Cam Ward at 2 in the draft.
Absolutely not at number #2
Noooo!!! let's trade our pick to the cowboys and give Dak! he is proven he can win, NO qb in the draft = NFL ready. Dak has a good 4-6 years and we have the tools that can get us into the playoffs. The good news is Dak can take us all the way with the right team around him.
@@Grob000-q4qas if the cowboys would be willing to take that massive cap hit, or that the Browns can afford Dak
They are gonna draft a QB or take a vet who will not work in this trainwreck system. They don’t have the money to get someone amazing or the talent to develop anyone into a great player
What excuses are you going to make for Stefanski's inability to get the best out of Baker Mayfield? He looks pretty good now he is away from Stefanski.
Firstly, Watson busted here. Done with him, hope he's the QB3 until that Cap can be moved.
That said, HOW do you pay 250M for a QB... and NOT tailor the entire Offense to him DAY 1? That's just dumb. If you Trade what we Traded, and Paid what we Paid... you TAILOR IT TO WHAT HE DOES WELL DAY 1. Period.
The fact that didn't happen is already a failing of the entire Organization.
To tailor the offense around Watson’s on day 1, Browns would have had to basically replace the whole offensive line in the beginning of 2022 season and this was before they showed signs of aging
@@michaelboano7183 If you aren't willing to move heaven and earth to tailor the Offense around the FQB... then you don't think he's the FQB, and you shouldn't be giving that much up for him. You MUST Full Commit on a move like this.
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