Can't tell you enough how much I appreciate your channel and videos. Thank you so much! You have helped me more than you can know. Now I have cayenne tinctures, lactucarium tinctures, thyme and rosemary tinctures, and I am working on growing plants to make more tinctures. Because of you, I know the difference and how to's of all the different types of medicinal delivery.
In the case of the mouse/rat ginkgo study you mentioned, people don't seem to realize that mice and rats only live a couple years. So giving a high dose of something to an animal for most of its life could be very problematic. I've seen people say "the rat in the experiment died 4-5 years into a study and that proves it's toxic!" So the rat lived a normal length life...
Context is king, if you don’t understand context, you will always be off in your understanding. People always have a habit to read their own thoughts in to the text and come out with a flawed interpretation. God bless everyone
So glad you are making more videos again! Can you do a Hyssop video, or bitter herbs? I am preparing for Passover~ and this has been on my mind! Maybe an herbs of the Bible series? Thanks Doc! 😜
I do not believe in coincidence. I do believe that a higher power listens to us and can help us in our time of need. A situation has come to a head about herbal medicine in my life just yesterday. (Made me question if I should continue the course I’m on, kind of situation. A little chat with my voice of reason - husband of 35 years. And I’m back on track!) Homegrown herbalist shows up with this information today so I send the link to my daughter in law to be. I hope it helps her out. Thank you for all you do! Love and hugs from Maine
Hey Dr. Jones. Unfortunately inference is assumed with so many areas in life. Being able to dive in and understand what the questions are and how they were answered are so important. Some search engines seem to only put forth biased results. Seeking out other sources of info sure can assist in getting broader search results.
Brilliant understandable statement on things going on since a couple of years. Don’t get fooled by their peer- reviewed studies when they sometimes really intend other things than reliable research! Thank you Doc, you’re a related soul and dear brother in Christ 😀
If you want good research on plants, you must start with nutrient dense soil, that hasn’t been treated with chemicals (fertilizer, pesticides, or herbicide) , this is what we do, for everything we grow.
Wow, as a Ph.D. scientist/practitioner by training, I was delighted and appreciative that you made this video, which is a clear, accessible, engaging gift to the public (and professionals who may be good practitioners but are not trained in and don't really understand how science works) around how to think about research and inference. Plus, given this information is not limited to herbal medicine and research, there's much bonus to be gleaned here. Thanks, Dr. Jones. Always a delight and value in watching what you have to say and I'm glad I caught this one. Bravo! I'll be sharing it.
I really wish more people knew about you and your school. I was thinking that maybe you could do an interview on the channel 'Soft White Underbelly', here on UA-cam, to reach out to the all the people that need to know that herbs are our allies? You are an amazing teacher that really gets to the heart of the matter on how to use herbs right away and effectively. I want everyone that can, get a chance to hear you out. I try my best to get the word out though. Big hugs from Oregon!
That's why I'm leery about these studies sometimes. They aren't real world as to what you would be taking. Problem is they are used to skew perception, too often to squeeze out competition of the preferred pharma. Be wary is all I can say.
Well done Patrick! This is so important for people to know. Filtering for variables, and also random sampling size are really important. Thank you for sharing :)
I understand your perspective on research; I had to, to achieve my degree. I appreciate this video because I am very much affiliated with your example. But still, I appreciate your wonderful sense of humour. Thank you
Good information! One thing I wonder about; is there a national directory of herbalists (that have some type of certification showing they they know what they're talking about) so people can look for someone near them? Do you/your organization have long-distance clients? I'm trying to move away from allopathic to natural medicine...but all I'm finding is NDs who simply replace the pharmaceutical pills with a couple dozen "natural" pills...that is NOT what I'm looking for!!!
I feel the same way. In addition I’m on state assistance so naturopathic care is out. Also… look into- nootropics, adaptogens, … this will naturally lead you to mushrooms along your way. Keep looking for an herbalist… but keep learning about herbalism… and maybe you will become the herbalist. 😉🧐
I had a different perspective on the ginkgo study mentioned. I guess it’s all about framing. Given how very much was needed -if the extract- to kill a rat (of normal age of death apparently so…🤷♀️) shows me how safe it is for me to take. But, as the Doc is talking I start seeing headlines about ginkgo being deadly.
Thank you for the encouragement to remember the wisdom in discernment. Also thank you for channel apparently. This is the first of your videos I’ve seen (I think… ). After reading some comments … I’m really looking forward to your content. I’ve felt for quite some time that food is medicine. I’ve tried scheduling appointments with dietitians to discuss what kinds of foods will help the issues I have and I’m met with blank looks when they realize I’m not wanting to talk about diabetes management. It’s like it’s the only thing they were educated on 🤷♀️. I decided to start learning for myself. I’m several years in this journey and looking forward to a better garden this year than last. I want to plant medicinally minded. Finding this channel is perfect timing!
I just found this channel. Thanks for sharing this information. Just thinking of starting to get into herb learning. I feel like a kindergarten in a college class. 100% going through all your videos. I'm wondering if you could answer a question about rare conditions. I'm trying to look at helping pain from nerve pain;from tumors;from neurofibromatosis type 1 . What is a good way to look at natural remedies for this if you know?
Finding "active ingredients" to patent skews results of the studies done . We have no idea what synergistic protections and effects of all the other constituents of a plant , and a purified extract is at a possible toxic concentration as a result. It also may eliminate other active components that work together. I forgive them for they know not what they do....or do they !?
I don’t know how to read and understand medical research papers, so I’m glad you do! I totally trust your wisdom and knowledge of everything! Please, please, please! Keep making these videos! You are a true blessing!
This is a crash course on good research practice and concept application. I worked on double-blind research, and the chemists were always having to clarify with others how it's all about identical method, timing and materials...every day, for months to years. Only 1 change (variable) can be done at a time, and that's after the baseline is established between different chemists in one lab matching results of the identical tests on the same thing in other labs. And a different result had to be tested each time - even ambient humidity on a rainy day can tweak an outcome in consistency or appearance of a lotion, for example. But it's not repeatable, so it can be easily explained (because humidity and temp are recorded every time), and set aside as unrelated to the norm. So radical overdoses to mice for 2 years isn't indicative of anything other than precisely that, with the caveat that most mice die of cancer regardless of where they live... so a 2 year test on mega doses in mice has even more problems limiting that variable.
Very good, thank you. Also, individuals respond differently sometimes to an herb than another person might...so many variables but well worth the using of herbs. Again, thank you for sharing your expertise!
Nicely put. It is one of my bugaboos that 1) research is not done very well, and 2) when it is , the conclusions are misstated. Thanks for making the topic quite clear. Your talk could easily be a good lecture for home-schooled older children.
To add to this it should be noted that most often we are using extracts short term not long term. The measurement ratio plays a role in concentration ie milligrams. 2000mg is high?
Can't tell you enough how much I appreciate your channel and videos. Thank you so much! You have helped me more than you can know. Now I have cayenne tinctures, lactucarium tinctures, thyme and rosemary tinctures, and I am working on growing plants to make more tinctures. Because of you, I know the difference and how to's of all the different types of medicinal delivery.
Me too!!❤
I feel the exact same way! I love listening to these videos while I work, so motivating!
In the case of the mouse/rat ginkgo study you mentioned, people don't seem to realize that mice and rats only live a couple years. So giving a high dose of something to an animal for most of its life could be very problematic. I've seen people say "the rat in the experiment died 4-5 years into a study and that proves it's toxic!" So the rat lived a normal length life...
Yes. As if mice would eat that for 2 years in the wild. Some researchers just seem to have too much time on their hands.
My son had 2 pet rats and I had totally forgotten that they died at 3.5 and 4 years old. Context changes everything!
Context is king, if you don’t understand context, you will always be off in your understanding. People always have a habit to read their own thoughts in to the text and come out with a flawed interpretation. God bless everyone
I think it’s equally important to see who funds the research.
I totally agree!!!
Absolutely
So glad you are making more videos again!
Can you do a Hyssop video, or bitter herbs?
I am preparing for Passover~ and this has been on my mind! Maybe an herbs of the Bible series?
Thanks Doc! 😜
I do not believe in coincidence. I do believe that a higher power listens to us and can help us in our time of need. A situation has come to a head about herbal medicine in my life just yesterday. (Made me question if I should continue the course I’m on, kind of situation. A little chat with my voice of reason - husband of 35 years. And I’m back on track!) Homegrown herbalist shows up with this information today so I send the link to my daughter in law to be. I hope it helps her out. Thank you for all you do! Love and hugs from Maine
You are blessed and a very smart man! Thank you for all you do! I have great respect for you! 🙏
Thank you so much Dr. Jones I just love your school and all your teachings you are an amazing teacher of health and herbs.
Hey Dr. Jones. Unfortunately inference is assumed with so many areas in life. Being able to dive in and understand what the questions are and how they were answered are so important. Some search engines seem to only put forth biased results. Seeking out other sources of info sure can assist in getting broader search results.
thank you for being the voice of reason
I didn't know Eckhart Tolle had a younger brother! You're in good company!
Good one!!❤
Brilliant understandable statement on things going on since a couple of years.
Don’t get fooled by their peer- reviewed studies when they sometimes really intend other things than reliable research!
Thank you Doc, you’re a related soul and dear brother in Christ 😀
I am loving the more frequent videos, thank you! I love how you break subjects down so that they are easy to understand! Also liking the
Thank you thank you Doctor Jones. Great education.
If you want good research on plants, you must start with nutrient dense soil, that hasn’t been treated with chemicals (fertilizer, pesticides, or herbicide) , this is what we do, for everything we grow.
Wow, as a Ph.D. scientist/practitioner by training, I was delighted and appreciative that you made this video, which is a clear, accessible, engaging gift to the public (and professionals who may be good practitioners but are not trained in and don't really understand how science works) around how to think about research and inference. Plus, given this information is not limited to herbal medicine and research, there's much bonus to be gleaned here. Thanks, Dr. Jones. Always a delight and value in watching what you have to say and I'm glad I caught this one. Bravo! I'll be sharing it.
Glad you enjoyed it. :0)
Doc Jones
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I’m so going to do your course. I just found you yesterday through Homesteading Family. Very exciting information.
I agree. We have to read the studies ourselves and qualify the conclusions before making any ruling based on someone else's conclusions.
Thank you! I have a MS in Biotech and am about a month into my herbalism practice- thank you for a reminder on how to read studies
Thank you. I look forward to lessons in the school about this. It will be helpful for me to know how to study research properly and more in depth.
I learn something new with every video! Thank you!
Excellent!
Very good information and very true.
Thank Doc… good ideas to contemplate.
Thank you for a logical way to look at tudies and determine the possible bias. Now all we need is to get some practice on the debate team.
Truth!
Very good advice!
I really wish more people knew about you and your school. I was thinking that maybe you could do an interview on the channel 'Soft White Underbelly', here on UA-cam, to reach out to the all the people that need to know that herbs are our allies? You are an amazing teacher that really gets to the heart of the matter on how to use herbs right away and effectively. I want everyone that can, get a chance to hear you out. I try my best to get the word out though. Big hugs from Oregon!
That's why I'm leery about these studies sometimes. They aren't real world as to what you would be taking. Problem is they are used to skew perception, too often to squeeze out competition of the preferred pharma. Be wary is all I can say.
Excellent video on an important topic.
Well done Patrick! This is so important for people to know. Filtering for variables, and also random sampling size are really important. Thank you for sharing :)
Thank you Dr.Jones for all that you share, I find all of your video's extremely helpful. God Bless.
I understand your perspective on research; I had to, to achieve my degree. I appreciate this video because I am very much affiliated with your example. But still, I appreciate your wonderful sense of humour. Thank you
Thank you !
can't wait to start your courses
Good information! One thing I wonder about; is there a national directory of herbalists (that have some type of certification showing they they know what they're talking about) so people can look for someone near them? Do you/your organization have long-distance clients? I'm trying to move away from allopathic to natural medicine...but all I'm finding is NDs who simply replace the pharmaceutical pills with a couple dozen "natural" pills...that is NOT what I'm looking for!!!
I feel the same way. In addition I’m on state assistance so naturopathic care is out.
Also… look into- nootropics, adaptogens, … this will naturally lead you to mushrooms along your way.
Keep looking for an herbalist… but keep learning about herbalism… and maybe you will become the herbalist. 😉🧐
I had a different perspective on the ginkgo study mentioned. I guess it’s all about framing. Given how very much was needed -if the extract- to kill a rat (of normal age of death apparently so…🤷♀️) shows me how safe it is for me to take.
But, as the Doc is talking I start seeing headlines about ginkgo being deadly.
Thank you for the encouragement to remember the wisdom in discernment.
Also thank you for channel apparently. This is the first of your videos I’ve seen (I think… ). After reading some comments … I’m really looking forward to your content. I’ve felt for quite some time that food is medicine. I’ve tried scheduling appointments with dietitians to discuss what kinds of foods will help the issues I have and I’m met with blank looks when they realize I’m not wanting to talk about diabetes management. It’s like it’s the only thing they were educated on 🤷♀️.
I decided to start learning for myself. I’m several years in this journey and looking forward to a better garden this year than last.
I want to plant medicinally minded. Finding this channel is perfect timing!
Thanks Doc❤
Great video!!!
A Vet like Joel Wallach
Thank you
I bought some Venom & Sting Tincture from you. How do I find out how to use it on my animals?
Thku
There is also the possibility that something in the extraction process causes cancer.
I just found this channel. Thanks for sharing this information. Just thinking of starting to get into herb learning. I feel like a kindergarten in a college class. 100% going through all your videos.
I'm wondering if you could answer a question about rare conditions. I'm trying to look at helping pain from nerve pain;from tumors;from neurofibromatosis type 1 . What is a good way to look at natural remedies for this if you know?
Shoot me an email Maria. homegrownherbalist.net/contact-us/
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A little Common Sense , Goes a Long Way ❗️
Barking up the wrong tree....I see what you did there.
Finding "active ingredients" to patent skews results of the studies done .
We have no idea what synergistic protections and effects of all the other constituents of a plant , and a purified extract is at a possible toxic concentration as a result. It also may eliminate other active components that work together.
I forgive them for they know not what they do....or do they !?
My exact beef! It’s like saying the heart is important for living but let’s just extract the heart and discard the rest of the body!
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Context matters. Dont tell that to the DNC.....
Sounds like guns....
Maybe another question to ask would be why were they doing the research and who paid for the research to be done.
Seriously, your explanations are amazing. Sage advice.
I don’t know how to read and understand medical research papers, so I’m glad you do! I totally trust your wisdom and knowledge of everything! Please, please, please! Keep making these videos! You are a true blessing!
You do know in the past week searches have been compromised ? Just saying
This is a crash course on good research practice and concept application. I worked on double-blind research, and the chemists were always having to clarify with others how it's all about identical method, timing and materials...every day, for months to years. Only 1 change (variable) can be done at a time, and that's after the baseline is established between different chemists in one lab matching results of the identical tests on the same thing in other labs. And a different result had to be tested each time - even ambient humidity on a rainy day can tweak an outcome in consistency or appearance of a lotion, for example. But it's not repeatable, so it can be easily explained (because humidity and temp are recorded every time), and set aside as unrelated to the norm. So radical overdoses to mice for 2 years isn't indicative of anything other than precisely that, with the caveat that most mice die of cancer regardless of where they live... so a 2 year test on mega doses in mice has even more problems limiting that variable.
Enjoy your book very much & these. Wish I could afford your training. Praying 4 the day. Thanks for including us in these. God Bless you Always!
Very good, thank you. Also, individuals respond differently sometimes to an herb than another person might...so many variables but well worth the using of herbs. Again, thank you for sharing your expertise!
This is great. Thank you Dr Jones
❤ Doc, you are a treasure. Thank you!
Thank you. Important information.😊🌱💚🌻🐝
Such great information. Thank you, so much. I started watching at least one video a day - priceless information
Nicely put. It is one of my bugaboos that 1) research is not done very well, and 2) when it is , the conclusions are misstated. Thanks for making the topic quite clear. Your talk could easily be a good lecture for home-schooled older children.
Thank you for all your videos, your knowledge and the way you deliver your information… I hope I can take your class one day .
Another great video, and I love the purple backdrop!
Great video! I'm really enjoying the school!
And the 'contex't of shelf dog food is premeditative dog murder, hugh.
Do you have any plans to create an apocalyptic large animal vet course? If not, could you consider creating one? Please!
To add to this it should be noted that most often we are using extracts short term not long term. The measurement ratio plays a role in concentration ie milligrams. 2000mg is high?
Use things in moderation.
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