They are def worth it man I totally agree thats why I am always looking for baits that are new but no one is using them yet or even older baits that fell off and. Also i even got that Deps sweet killer that came out last month but only for deps members. Almost looks like Drt but the mold is from the slider swimmer 175 and changed the tail and shape an added a removable lip an tail also cant wait for those butch brown colored 250's. Take a look at Grow designs flag 175, 255 I think these are gonna be a new killer high valued bait not many people are gonna be using soft plastic wise.
The Japanese Direct market is genius at business, not overproducing - in addition Japanese anglers pay big money for all kinds of baits, so that makes the demand even greater. Butch Brown said he bought every Deps 250 off of ebay to use and keep away from others. If I didn't live in musky country, I would spend the money. When I started swimbaits several years ago, I bought Roman Mades, Deps 250's, Gan's - anything I could. That is another thing beginners should consider - you can always sell these baits on Ebay or Swimbait Underground...I sold my RM Negotiators, Mother and South for more than I paid. I also broke even or made a little from the Gan's and Deps - I did break off a River to Sea big S waver and a Huddleston trout but I was able to recover them - and promptly sold them for what I paid for them. I think most break off casting are from trying to bomb baits, rather than lob cast. I since stared making my own swimbaits (not to sell, just to fish) and I think my lures perform as well or better than others I've tried - except the Mother and Deps 250. These two lures exceeded my expectations. The Deps 250 is also all but impossible to build yourself due to the outer shell which allows it to glide without 'crunching'. The shell acts like a rebound device to bring the lure back into glide, really ingenious. Also, the bigger baits tend to glide better in my experience. Tuning these store bought swimbaits can be all but impossible, which is another reason I like to make my own - I can experiment and change them without fear of ruining an expensive lure. This building and tuning has taught me alot about how the work ... I would say the Deps 250 is probably the most 'tunable' as you can add and subtract weight, plus if you don't like the color you can acetone the shell (making the whole thing clear) and foil finish the underneath part how ever you like. And the best reason to fish these lures is. . . they are FUN!
The Dobyns 867, which I like when they eat it, keeps them pinned super nice but it feels a tad underrated for casting, it may just be because it’s pretty parabolic. I can cast Hinkle no problem, it just feels like it’s a lot for the rod. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Frostin_Austin thanks for the response, I own an 867. You just gave me the confidence to pull the trigger on a Hiroshima 11” trout. Very similar in specs to the hinkle, I can’t wait.
I think they're worth it all around. If I had somebody else in the boat I would be throwing a big bait all the time. I've had some monsters follow my Sneaky Pete but they didn't commit. I've never thrown it out on a Long Point and let it sink though I thought most of these baits were more to cruise over heavy cover, but I might have to try letting them sink.
Love the video bud. I bought thr Gan craft, but really want a hinkle. Which would you recommend I buy being new to the swimbait game. And also what line do you recommend? Braid to floro, braid to mono? And what lbs? I hope to get another guide trip with you in the fall or spring.
They are def worth it man I totally agree thats why I am always looking for baits that are new but no one is using them yet or even older baits that fell off and. Also i even got that Deps sweet killer that came out last month but only for deps members. Almost looks like Drt but the mold is from the slider swimmer 175 and changed the tail and shape an added a removable lip an tail also cant wait for those butch brown colored 250's. Take a look at Grow designs flag 175, 255 I think these are gonna be a new killer high valued bait not many people are gonna be using soft plastic wise.
The Japanese Direct market is genius at business, not overproducing - in addition Japanese anglers pay big money for all kinds of baits, so that makes the demand even greater. Butch Brown said he bought every Deps 250 off of ebay to use and keep away from others. If I didn't live in musky country, I would spend the money. When I started swimbaits several years ago, I bought Roman Mades, Deps 250's, Gan's - anything I could. That is another thing beginners should consider - you can always sell these baits on Ebay or Swimbait Underground...I sold my RM Negotiators, Mother and South for more than I paid. I also broke even or made a little from the Gan's and Deps - I did break off a River to Sea big S waver and a Huddleston trout but I was able to recover them - and promptly sold them for what I paid for them. I think most break off casting are from trying to bomb baits, rather than lob cast. I since stared making my own swimbaits (not to sell, just to fish) and I think my lures perform as well or better than others I've tried - except the Mother and Deps 250. These two lures exceeded my expectations. The Deps 250 is also all but impossible to build yourself due to the outer shell which allows it to glide without 'crunching'. The shell acts like a rebound device to bring the lure back into glide, really ingenious. Also, the bigger baits tend to glide better in my experience. Tuning these store bought swimbaits can be all but impossible, which is another reason I like to make my own - I can experiment and change them without fear of ruining an expensive lure. This building and tuning has taught me alot about how the work ... I would say the Deps 250 is probably the most 'tunable' as you can add and subtract weight, plus if you don't like the color you can acetone the shell (making the whole thing clear) and foil finish the underneath part how ever you like. And the best reason to fish these lures is. . . they are FUN!
What rod you throwing that hinkle on?
The Dobyns 867, which I like when they eat it, keeps them pinned super nice but it feels a tad underrated for casting, it may just be because it’s pretty parabolic. I can cast Hinkle no problem, it just feels like it’s a lot for the rod. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Frostin_Austin thanks for the response, I own an 867. You just gave me the confidence to pull the trigger on a Hiroshima 11” trout. Very similar in specs to the hinkle, I can’t wait.
i would lose it the first day. I'll make my own thanks. I just love making them. the paint job is the hardest part for sure.
I’ve been thrown big baits for a decade and never lost one. As long as you have mediocre talent in the right gear you really should never lose one.
I think they're worth it all around. If I had somebody else in the boat I would be throwing a big bait all the time. I've had some monsters follow my Sneaky Pete but they didn't commit. I've never thrown it out on a Long Point and let it sink though I thought most of these baits were more to cruise over heavy cover, but I might have to try letting them sink.
I would 10000% go swimming for my swimbaits lol. God made dirt and dirt don't hurt!
Love the video bud. I bought thr Gan craft, but really want a hinkle. Which would you recommend I buy being new to the swimbait game. And also what line do you recommend? Braid to floro, braid to mono? And what lbs? I hope to get another guide trip with you in the fall or spring.
A Hinkle trout is worth it.