RIP trains normal people off the streets and makes average people strong, a lot of trainers brag about making 1% of genetic freaks (professional athletes) stronger but Rip is in the trenches
That is the best description of what he's doing. You have "coaches" taking people with 700lb squats and making them do any program which will obviously work because they are genetic freaks.
Rip isn't a calm teacher at all. If he's pissed off when you do something wrong, he won't be afraid to show it. So when you go in to learn from him, better be ready 'cause this guy is no joke.
This how proper trainers looks like..most commercial gym just have some know nothing guys as their trainer..all Rip key point on deadlift is spot on and minimize the injury that could occur in this simple deadlift discipline
I've had defensive shooting instructors who would make Rip look like a big teddy bear. I would have a hell of a time to keep from laughing in Rip's class.
Thank you for posting these videos. I get so much out of watching all of the SS coaches providing direction to help people correct their movement patterns. It helps me with my own cues as I analyze my movements.
They use what’s called the Valsalva Maneuver. It’s when you take a big ass breath (think take a big bite of the air and suck in) and hold it in by bracing your abs hard (think you’re about to get punched in the gut). Brace just before you pull and don’t let go until you let the barbell go at the bottom, as to protect your spine with internal pressure throughout the lift.
I was taught in high school that the hips had to be aligned below the knees. I always thought this makes the DL more of a squat but here a lot of the driving force appears to come from the back, hip abductors, quads and glutes.
They teach a lot of bull in high school. You should have asked why, and you'd have gotten an angry stare from the teacher. Why is the most dangerous question out there.
"Stop wiggling around and just set up the pull!" my thoughts exactly, it looks like some people can't help but moving around so much before initiating any exercise, like those people that everytime they do a bench press rep move their feet around, I think it's some kind of anxiety??
Late reply but yes perhaps. It could also be a placebo type effect. Maybe it helps them feel more rigid before the pull or the unrack of the bar in the bench press.
it's phenomenon that I noticed in skateboarding too, when doing a trick. it's a terrible habit, mostly coming from making sure that your feet are REALLY positioned correctly. most of the time the intuitive placement in the first second is the correct one, and every second after that is just overthinking it
I don't get it: Look at the last guy Dead lifting. Rip is telling him to leave his hips up high, but they VISIBLY lower, before he pulls the bar up. Yet Rip says "Great". WTF!?
It seems like everyone begins their lift with the hips really high and the back parallel to the floor. Shouldn’t they lower the hips and bring the back to a 15-20 degree angle at the liftoff?
After you've got great technique. Too many people throw on a belt and use it as a crutch to hide weaknesses. It also depends on the lifter. I use a belt any time I am lifting 85%+ or as much as is reasonable during competition prep. In my personal experience, I didn't get a powerlifting belt until I was pulling 405. But again, it depends on the lifter. Greg Nuckols probably has an article on it if you google his name + weightlifting belt.
if you keep your hips lower than they need to be, they will rise up anyway before you can lift the bar off the floor, so it is useless and it makes your knees travel forward and the bar move forward
my shins are 2 inches away from the bar and it works for me ,there is no hip shift also .the bar should be over midfoot ,which is not necessarily 1 inch away from the shins ,it wasn't for me
You keep it as high as you can so that you can make it more efficient (less distance to travel, easier and/or able to put on more weight). Why go lower when the purpose of the lift is to go up? Maybe you have poor mobility (especially your capacity to maintain hamstrings and lowback in extension) and it feels easier for you when you're low, but that's not efficient or proper, it's more of a bro science kind of thing.
Interesting take. Ive never used my lifters for deadlifts. That pitch forward feels awkward. Though stability and support ar issues in my Chucks for sure. Hmmmmm I may try them out. Thanks.
Very good article but it still doesn't change the fact that DLs in this video are not made in the most efficent way. The angles Rip is trying to achieve with those people are mostly resembling what a Stiff Legged DL is suppose to look like.
Dude, I have a utube channel myself and i deal with negativity and stupid comments (that i should die and stuff) everyday. So I get it. STILL i think that i have the right to say my opinion, which ain't that crazy. It's a common critiq to the S S. And the problem is in the kneeflexon here. If u do it right u will endup with a really small knee flexion and way more quad involvemnt and lower (not too low) hip posision. Most of the people here start with shoulders way over the bar and they are basicly perpendicular to the floor so, IMHO it just isin't THE best way to do it.
@@HunterMich The mechanics and methods are explained in the starting strength book. People with long femurs and short torsos will have more of an horizontal back when you setup for the deadlift, in order to keep the bar balanced over the middle of the foot. www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/766/original/Graphs.png?ts=1412376475
It's a work in progress, sir. Coaching someone who is still learning some skill takes patience as it takes them some time to actually learn how to do it correctly. Imagine how rounded their back would be if they never had a coach telling them otherwise...
Rip insists on high hip position which just never worked for me. Its just not the same anatomy for everyone and it just causes rounding . I find Alan Thralls cues to be better. Also most people have short and weak hamstring sitting all day. The low back just rounds to shorten the spinal lever.
Elliot hulse coaches the deadlift much better. But Rip coaches the squat much better. Been using low bar squat for a month or two now and it's so much better, get better depth, I've had to drop the weight but I want to work back up while maintaining good depth.
@D B Good comment, especially for the Baraki/Thrall reference. But, isn't that image supposed to be showing the different setups according to different torso/legs lenght ratio in people? That's what I'm assuming it is.
Dude @09:00 should not do deadlift from theground. His anatomy will allways make his lower back round over. Either go with elevated regular deadlifts or start with RDLs or sumo deadlifts. Regular deadlift is not necessary unless you compete in that specific movement.
RIP trains normal people off the streets and makes average people strong, a lot of trainers brag about making 1% of genetic freaks (professional athletes) stronger but Rip is in the trenches
That is the best description of what he's doing. You have "coaches" taking people with 700lb squats and making them do any program which will obviously work because they are genetic freaks.
Well said
Rippetoe is da man 💪🏻
Well it's called starting strength, not intermediate/advanced or elite strength for a reason. It's just to get normal unathletic people started.
rip is based af. we don't deserve this kind of coaching
I’d give everything I own to hear Rip describe me as “huge and powerful”.
I am also a Rippetoe fanboy
THAT was a happy coach on the last set. Loved how he gave that dude shit for 495, loaded up to 500, and then patted him on the chest when he was done.
I'm most impressed by how many things he leans on
his back is blown out thats why he does this
its called american lean
Rip isn't a calm teacher at all. If he's pissed off when you do something wrong, he won't be afraid to show it. So when you go in to learn from him, better be ready 'cause this guy is no joke.
Just like my college strength coach. I love it.
This how proper trainers looks like..most commercial gym just have some know nothing guys as their trainer..all Rip key point on deadlift is spot on and minimize the injury that could occur in this simple deadlift discipline
I've had defensive shooting instructors who would make Rip look like a big teddy bear. I would have a hell of a time to keep from laughing in Rip's class.
Reminds me of my boxing coach, best kind of trainer.
Thank you for posting these videos. I get so much out of watching all of the SS coaches providing direction to help people correct their movement patterns. It helps me with my own cues as I analyze my movements.
*You always check the grip."
This one is golden.
the respect in the air of this gym for the Mark is above the roof.
10:20. One hell of a view
Decades of Squats and Deads
I was expecting a woman in leggings/booty shorts, but was pleasantly surprised.
10:20 = decades of hhhhip draaave
@@aavila1206 I hate you...
Not my proudest fap
15:48
tfw Rip will never say you're huge and powerful
I really want to go to this seminar in Wichita Falls
Some of these lifters have been emotionally scarred for life.
🤣🤣🤣🤣It will toughen em up! They must soldier on!🤣🤣
RIP teaches good and honest
Oh I'd love to get personal form checks from Rip. These people are lucky.
Those last reps were solid
I saw so many videos on dead lifting and squatting that in the end I just don't know what is correct anymore.
Now I have to rewrite my whole training journal because rip made me jump 5lbs on the deadlift😮💨
2 months out to finally get to see uncle Ripp at WFAC!!!
How did it go?
Thanks RIP, I ‘ve learned a lot from your tng videos.
13:19..the most proper form in the video..and also the last one
Good session! Great work guys!
What about breathing technique during the execution, that's not discussed?
They use what’s called the Valsalva Maneuver. It’s when you take a big ass breath (think take a big bite of the air and suck in) and hold it in by bracing your abs hard (think you’re about to get punched in the gut). Brace just before you pull and don’t let go until you let the barbell go at the bottom, as to protect your spine with internal pressure throughout the lift.
Thank you for uploading
2:14. Is that Jason Blaha in the background?
That's what I was thinking lol
It's not Jason
Non-negotiable!
delete this comment. he is on top secret business on behalf of the farm at langley. you will be order 66'd if you're not careful.
Nah, that's my boy Hemingway.
This is so hard yet so simple
I lost count on how many times Mark told me "Don't drop your ass."
Rip teaches the squat the way God intended.
Mark is always leaning on something 😂
Reckon its due to his back pain
or are the things leaning on mark?
That spine has lifted enough
I was intimidated to go to one of these. Now I see a lot of average ones pulling less weight, I feel much more likely to attend.
I've been a couple times. It was super helpful
Under what conditions would one need a belt for a deadlift? I read the book but couldn't find much information on this.
Well the nsca says it's when you do an exercise that loads the spine and with a weight that is at least 85% of your one rep max
I was taught in high school that the hips had to be aligned below the knees. I always thought this makes the DL more of a squat but here a lot of the driving force appears to come from the back, hip abductors, quads and glutes.
They teach a lot of bull in high school. You should have asked why, and you'd have gotten an angry stare from the teacher. Why is the most dangerous question out there.
Your hips have to come up regardless so dropping your hips is just creating slack
You were taught wrong
you will Texas and you WILL like it
"Stop wiggling around and just set up the pull!"
my thoughts exactly, it looks like some people can't help but moving around so much before initiating any exercise, like those people that everytime they do a bench press rep move their feet around, I think it's some kind of anxiety??
Late reply but yes perhaps. It could also be a placebo type effect. Maybe it helps them feel more rigid before the pull or the unrack of the bar in the bench press.
it's phenomenon that I noticed in skateboarding too, when doing a trick. it's a terrible habit, mostly coming from making sure that your feet are REALLY positioned correctly. most of the time the intuitive placement in the first second is the correct one, and every second after that is just overthinking it
I don't get it: Look at the last guy Dead lifting. Rip is telling him to leave his hips up high, but they VISIBLY lower, before he pulls the bar up. Yet Rip says "Great". WTF!?
I wish there was a seminar where Rip was your friend. Starting Whiskey and Bullshitting Seminar
Put a goddamn 2 1/2 on that thing lol
2:13 Coath on the right there
@12:46 "HOLD IT!... We are not gonna do 495 when we can do 500!!!" LOL
Thats at the 16 min mark
I saw Mark in a change room once....after that we called him Mark "the hose" Ripitoe. The thickness of that slug was something to behold
lmao
Mark logged in under this username just to say this, lol!!
Super helpful. Thank you
It seems like everyone begins their lift with the hips really high and the back parallel to the floor. Shouldn’t they lower the hips and bring the back to a 15-20 degree angle at the liftoff?
No. That would be considered squatting the bar up. Hips up, chest up with straight arms is way more efficient.
I bet the blue shirt guy never ever bent his elbow after Uncle Rippy said 'before the surgery is necessary'
How important is the belt? At what weight should I use one
After you've got great technique. Too many people throw on a belt and use it as a crutch to hide weaknesses. It also depends on the lifter. I use a belt any time I am lifting 85%+ or as much as is reasonable during competition prep.
In my personal experience, I didn't get a powerlifting belt until I was pulling 405. But again, it depends on the lifter.
Greg Nuckols probably has an article on it if you google his name + weightlifting belt.
Impressive watching Rip train Mr & Mrs Everybody USA
I have got to get one of those fishing lures! 7:00
who put 495 GD pounds on that thing. Put 500 on it!! Love Rip!
I was always taught to keep my hip low when deadlifting. Also, my feet were to be spread out a bit more. Anyone else?
Yes same here. Well, now im confused.
@@olymsailor83 it all depends on the way your body is. Short legs long torso has a lower hip position, long legs short torso has a higher hip position
same me lol. better don’t watch more or we get damn confused.
they taugh you wrong listen to rip
if you keep your hips lower than they need to be, they will rise up anyway before you can lift the bar off the floor, so it is useless and it makes your knees travel forward and the bar move forward
my shins are 2 inches away from the bar and it works for me ,there is no hip shift also .the bar should be over midfoot ,which is not necessarily 1 inch away from the shins ,it wasn't for me
depends on foot size
Doesn’t it feel like everyones hips are super high?
You keep it as high as you can so that you can make it more efficient (less distance to travel, easier and/or able to put on more weight). Why go lower when the purpose of the lift is to go up? Maybe you have poor mobility (especially your capacity to maintain hamstrings and lowback in extension) and it feels easier for you when you're low, but that's not efficient or proper, it's more of a bro science kind of thing.
Deadlifts with lifters, not flat shoes?
Weightlifting shoes have better stability and arch support. More advanced lifters can decide to make a tradeoff.
Interesting take. Ive never used my lifters for deadlifts. That pitch forward feels awkward. Though stability and support ar issues in my Chucks for sure. Hmmmmm I may try them out. Thanks.
Here I am watching a video of Rip correcting people doing the deadlift when I've posted my own video of Rip correcting my deadlift.....
Why is everyone pulling in lifters?
Same thing I was thinking. Not ideal for sure
I bet half these people go back home at night and cry into their pillows after Rip is done with them.
Too many snowflakes in this world. 🤣
why are they puling in squatting shoes????? why
Stability
HHWYY?
Coach Rip don't play. You can tell he cares.
8:48 Jason Blaha
Sick Dragon Ball tank.
500!!
Isn’t this a Straight leg Deadlift?
pround round back deadlifter .i ue the starting strength deadlifting steps just tweaked it my own way .
Every single Rip.
some need to wear long socks,knee sleeves or sweats🏋🏽
Their hips are so high, why?🤔
Barbell must be always over the midfoot...the starting position varies from person to person cause of anthropometry
@@the_third_sun I understand, but what I don't understand is, are they all tall enough to lift in that position?
@@the_third_sun Ahhh, I suddenly realized that they are all in lifting shoes!
That's BUUUULSHIT!!!
@@TomAndValkyrie Hahahaha
green shirt chick is doing a great job
looks like getting a power belly and a beard helps with your form lol
Is this a stiff legged DL convention or what?
Very good article but it still doesn't change the fact that DLs in this video are not made in the most efficent way. The angles Rip is trying to achieve with those people are mostly resembling what a Stiff Legged DL is suppose to look like.
Dude, I have a utube channel myself and i deal with negativity and stupid comments (that i should die and stuff) everyday. So I get it. STILL i think that i have the right to say my opinion, which ain't that crazy. It's a common critiq to the S S. And the problem is in the kneeflexon here. If u do it right u will endup with a really small knee flexion and way more quad involvemnt and lower (not too low) hip posision. Most of the people here start with shoulders way over the bar and they are basicly perpendicular to the floor so, IMHO it just isin't THE best way to do it.
It's the shoes I think.
@@HunterMich The mechanics and methods are explained in the starting strength book. People with long femurs and short torsos will have more of an horizontal back when you setup for the deadlift, in order to keep the bar balanced over the middle of the foot.
www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/766/original/Graphs.png?ts=1412376475
D B please don't reply me again sir, you are just that kind of guy thinking you are the only one in the world who has read Mark Rippetoe's books.
The back was clearly round yet he says Ok
It's a work in progress, sir. Coaching someone who is still learning some skill takes patience as it takes them some time to actually learn how to do it correctly. Imagine how rounded their back would be if they never had a coach telling them otherwise...
"storrrrrp at tha torrrrrp"
Their upper back and lower back are absolutely rounded... can't understand how Rippetoe accepts that form.
that's muscle rounding it
you're right but only when they are in between reps. Watch their back straighten as the chest goes up just as they start the pull
Rip insists on high hip position which just never worked for me. Its just not the same anatomy for everyone and it just causes rounding . I find Alan Thralls cues to be better. Also most people have short and weak hamstring sitting all day. The low back just rounds to shorten the spinal lever.
stop wiggling around hahah
Now set the damn thing down lol
Elliot hulse coaches the deadlift much better. But Rip coaches the squat much better. Been using low bar squat for a month or two now and it's so much better, get better depth, I've had to drop the weight but I want to work back up while maintaining good depth.
I want rip to couch me
Stop wiggling!
All of them deadlifting in heels.. starting position hips too high, making the start of movement much more difficult
Yay! lolz yeah. I thought hips seemed pretty high on most of these.
@D B Good comment, especially for the Baraki/Thrall reference.
But, isn't that image supposed to be showing the different setups according to different torso/legs lenght ratio in people? That's what I'm assuming it is.
Lifter girl around 6 min has the worst posture, no lat involvement and drops the bar with a rounded back.
That's bullshit!!! 💪 😂
Bullshit......put 2.5 on each side lol
Eh
A lot of these lifters have a rounded back...
Dude @09:00 should not do deadlift from theground. His anatomy will allways make his lower back round over.
Either go with elevated regular deadlifts or start with RDLs or sumo deadlifts.
Regular deadlift is not necessary unless you compete in that specific movement.