Yesterday a situation occurred in which I could plainly see that a big part of my identity is lost forever. I felt so much grief indeed. By now, the mind has picked it up and is creating a new identity around that. Sneaky bastard!
Awesome!!! Angelo, I need you to clarify something for me :) What has been tripping me up for eons has been this looking for "pure Awareness", "The Self", "I am sense" etc. as if it is somehow separate from direct experience.... I have been looking really really fucking hard, for a long time, and I have not been able to find anything that is aware of experience. Whenever I look really closely in deep states of concentration for this "something", that is apparently supposed to be separate from direct experience, all I can find are phenomena that are spontaneously arising and are intrinsically aware of themselves as they arise and wherever they arise. The sounds are aware of themselves, the thoughts are aware of themselves, tactile sensations are aware of themselves, the intentionality of trying to locate "pure awareness" is aware itself etc.... It seems that the nature of experiences are to be aware of themselves however they arise, there is nothing aware of them, they are just aware of themselves by the nature of them arising spontaneously. I cannot find this "Awareness" that is supposed to be more fundamental than the experiences... Should I just trust in this "knowing" that there is nothing aware of experience except for the experience itself and just rest in that without looking for something "more" or should I keep trying to find this "Pure Awareness thing" that has eluded me for years? Thanks ;)
Something has been aware that you have been looking for a long time. Something has a story about that and believes it really happening….who is that? Or what is that? Or where is that one that knows it’s been looking for eons?
@Bobbyolsen27 What remains untouched by the story you are telling? What doesn't need an explanation? And what is independent of the thoughts that arise? Is there something that needs to be found here?
My ego dropped past weekend during an advaita retreat. My first awakening (two years ago in the illusion) was the experience of beingness/consciousness/i amness. My second awakening (which happened past weekend) was about deeply realizing beingness is also a kind of experience and what I am is simply not an experience. It's as if I see through the eyes of death. Every moment now is like an explosion of no-thing-ness. It's amazingly beautiful. Does this align with what you are saying in this video, Angelo? I also want to add that there is still a sense of an individual, like a localization of some sort, through which experience is perceived, but there's no identification with that individual's ego anymore, nor with its body.
Yeah that kinda trips me. The grief makes no sense, cause I never lost myself, actually found, why would I grief anything? And I don't wanna feel grief, so that's why this question is relevant to me fuck 🤦♂️
Oh my goodness! Thank you Angelo. This was idk nourishing? Freeing? Settling? ….Calming ! And hopeful. I’m so thankful. Love you and your efforts so much. So grateful to you. ❤️🙏🏼😊
Why is it that I’ve had several openings, things that you described in videos, but it doesn’t stick? I mean my life changed for the better because of these profound times, but it doesn’t stay in a way that it was in those times. I end up back in thought/emotions land and things seem solid, final & suffery again.
Thank you so much! This clarified something that has had me confused for a while now. And I know it's just words and maps, others have made, but when I try to use the maps, being more clear about the signs on the map helps :)
Thanks, this talk was really helpful for me! One question though: Are you saying that awakening “may feel like a small deal experientially” (at 8:22)? If so, that’s really interesting and good to know. I don’t think I’ve heard that from you or anyone else before.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake i can't fathom no Self. No Self implies no caring about Self (no love). It doesn't just seem sad, it also seems impossible. Radical non duality speakers seem to speak the very essence of contradiction. They say there is no Self, but all they talk about is what it's like being a self. Self can't be denied. It's everything. What can be outside of One awareness? What can be outside of the kingdom of God?
@@karlskaret275 A body-mind still cares about itself after it loses the sense of self, which is the sense of being a subject or an experiencer. There’s nothing about experience that requires an experiencer. Teachers like Angelo talk about what experience itself is like, not about what it’s like to be an experiencer. Btw, I don’t know why you posted this as a reply to someone’s comment instead of directly on the video.
@RyanBowcutt there's that contradiction again "a body-mind still cares about "itself" after it loses the sense of "self." I responded to the comment because Suzanne Chang who was mentioned contradicts herself like this. What about all the awakening Angelo talks about. It's all nonsense if there is no Self. Yes everything is whole and complete. Nothing really awakens. But there is an undeniable sense of Self. Not dualistic. One Self. There is a reason that although radical non duality speakers say there is no self, all and only what they talk about is what self or "not self" is. Self cannot be denied. Divine Self is everything. How about experiencer doesn't need experience if you are struggling with non duality concept? We are really talking about "you" and "i" here aren't we? Otherwise there wouldn't be talking. Sorry I get rambling.
This was so so good particularly stressing going through the hard stuff and how it's something that just has to happen. I love how you worded it too. Anything worth going through has challenges that must be overcome.
Thank you SO much for this overview of the process- is very comforting for those of us being rocked on this roller coaster you speak of to keep trusting the unfolding. ❤🙏 The uncaused joy/relaxation though is also there 💃 and sometimes I have to suppress laughter to not appear bonkers in a bank line or such😊
can you do a video on how awakening & enlightenment relates to or affects having and raising children and a family (and wife)? I am 22 years old and there is a lot of fear, doubt, and worry about what I might do in the future (like leave my children or family) for the sake of awakening & enlightenment. I have been really trying to feel the emotions, but they're still at my door. Is there any way you can help me out? I just need more confidence that I will be able to live a typical life (family, wife, kids) without leaving them like the Buddha did (albeit prior to enlightenment). this fear and doubt about myself has been affecting my relationship. i would really appreciate it ❤️
@@orangoetan2967 The path continues. I think the strong motivation to leave home that I described in my original comment was part of a strong spiritual ego or something like that. I'm still a "layperson" but I'm not in the same relationship anymore and the fear about leaving home if I did have children in the future is a lot softer or weaker.
Fun fact for anyone reading this who didn't know: The word "Dalai" of HH Dalai Lama means Ocean. It's a Mongolian word.... pretty neat history there. ❤
Where is my honeymoon then? I had that shift 3 years ago and it was life changing and said to myself: "wow it has always been here" but there was no feeling of love or unity (only for the 10 seconds or so when that happened).
Angelo is the insight you’re talking about in the first part of the video - the shift when thoughts get much less important and quiet and beingness is realized/experienced deeply - is that initial awakening or something else? When you know fundamentally that beingness / quietness is here even when there is doubt? Not getting caught in a thought world like before? These awakenings seem so different for different people. Mine aren’t usually big bangs but little cuts in identity that accumulate then the self is a lot lighter.
Hi hi, the self showed itself and I realised I was nothing more than it, living in a dream, the self has no rules pops off insights and experience whenever it wants, but many times I've asked it nd surrendered and next day, I have the insiiand the resistance is gone almost as if it's never existed, but me the ego hasn't gone it's like I'm living 2 personalities now, the ego and the self
Its interesting youre talk of the I am. I think I am is the language we have for it. From my experience i may also use the phrase “existence being in the place of itself”. Or like the transcendent existence knowing itself which is in that moment directly realized as not separate from you. Hence the “I am” that both includes you but is also non self referential.
What are your thoughts on “cessations” in the theravada tradition, specifically the “lights out” experience where things completely shut off and back on? Some teachers/traditions say this is critical to awakening, while others don’t really care about it.
I’m not convinced that Ramana and Nisargadatta did not also realize no-self. For example, Nisargadatta said to ‘Stay in the I-am to go beyond the ‘I-am’
Hm. I am confused. Is it possible to have had this realization without actually knowing what it was? I had a realization of the "I am sense" a couple of years ago after spending approx. 6 months nerding out on Rupert Spira and the whole "being aware of awareness" thingy. Didnt really seek enlightenment. Just wanted to know what he was talking about. And suddenly out of the blue I got this stunning realization that I was aware of being aware. And after that I kinda walked around in awe for a few days looking at the trees and the birds etc. But then I kinda shook it off and moved on with my life. I didnt see what the big deal was and there wasnt anything particulary to gain from it (my thinking back then). And now this video brought this simple message back home to me (I think). Im aware. Aware of everything like thoughts, feelings, no thoughts, anger, pain etc. Nothing ever will change that. Thoughts come and go (bla bla bla) but Im always aware. Tried self inquiry but I cant find anything. There is nothing there. Was still looking for that "aha" moment but it never came. Its just this sense/awareness of this "thing" and nothing more. Any pointers on this story of mine as Im still kinda looking/seeking. I am aware but so what? lol.... Anyways, love your videos:)!
Experience is a side effect. This is not experiential, it's existential... ? (9 min. ) Please Angel o, do clarifie the misunderstanding one might encounter, regarding the meaning and nuances between living (This) experientially v/s living it existentially. Thank you so much for your loving dedication. 💙🙏
I am / Consciousness = Illuminated vision of reality? *The Mystic Way 10: The Dark Night of the Soul - Jessica Davidson* ... The great contemplatives, those destined to attain the full stature of the mystic, emerge from this period of destitution, however long and drastic it may be, as from a new purification. It is for them the gateway to a higher state. But persons of a less heroic spirituality, if they enter the Night at all may succumb to its dangers and pains. This 'great negation' is the sorting-house of the spiritual life. Here we part from the 'nature mystics,' the mystic poets, and all who shared in and were contented with the illuminated vision of reality. Those who go on are the great and strong spirits, who do not seek to know, but are driven to be."
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I hope you truly know how powerfully you transmit! So much gratitude for your selfless pointings, book, videos and retreats! ❤ ☯️🙏🐇
Yesterday a situation occurred in which I could plainly see that a big part of my identity is lost forever. I felt so much grief indeed. By now, the mind has picked it up and is creating a new identity around that. Sneaky bastard!
Love tells me I am everything
Wisdom tells me I am nothing
Between the two my life flows.
"You are prior to the idea 'I am.' Camp yourself there, prior to the words 'I am.' "
Nisargadatta, Prior to Consciousness
Awesome!!!
Angelo, I need you to clarify something for me :) What has been tripping me up for eons has been this looking for "pure Awareness", "The Self", "I am sense" etc. as if it is somehow separate from direct experience.... I have been looking really really fucking hard, for a long time, and I have not been able to find anything that is aware of experience. Whenever I look really closely in deep states of concentration for this "something", that is apparently supposed to be separate from direct experience, all I can find are phenomena that are spontaneously arising and are intrinsically aware of themselves as they arise and wherever they arise. The sounds are aware of themselves, the thoughts are aware of themselves, tactile sensations are aware of themselves, the intentionality of trying to locate "pure awareness" is aware itself etc.... It seems that the nature of experiences are to be aware of themselves however they arise, there is nothing aware of them, they are just aware of themselves by the nature of them arising spontaneously. I cannot find this "Awareness" that is supposed to be more fundamental than the experiences... Should I just trust in this "knowing" that there is nothing aware of experience except for the experience itself and just rest in that without looking for something "more" or should I keep trying to find this "Pure Awareness thing" that has eluded me for years?
Thanks ;)
This smells like true dharma mixed with doubt. Good shit, dude. I enjoyed reading your question.
❤🎉
Something has been aware that you have been looking for a long time. Something has a story about that and believes it really happening….who is that? Or what is that? Or where is that one that knows it’s been looking for eons?
The simple answer is stop looking and see what happens ✅
@Bobbyolsen27
What remains untouched by the story you are telling?
What doesn't need an explanation?
And what is independent of the thoughts that arise?
Is there something that needs to be found here?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Interesting answer haha. Lets see what happens then, if anything at all :)
My ego dropped past weekend during an advaita retreat. My first awakening (two years ago in the illusion) was the experience of beingness/consciousness/i amness. My second awakening (which happened past weekend) was about deeply realizing beingness is also a kind of experience and what I am is simply not an experience. It's as if I see through the eyes of death. Every moment now is like an explosion of no-thing-ness. It's amazingly beautiful. Does this align with what you are saying in this video, Angelo? I also want to add that there is still a sense of an individual, like a localization of some sort, through which experience is perceived, but there's no identification with that individual's ego anymore, nor with its body.
Beautiful! That’s awesome. Sounds like non-dual realization at sone depth
Gratitude that everything is happening!
1:50 powerful pointer!!! 🙏🏾
Your words are lightening out of the blue sky. Thank you Angelo ❤⚡️
Welcome
Yeah that kinda trips me. The grief makes no sense, cause I never lost myself, actually found, why would I grief anything? And I don't wanna feel grief, so that's why this question is relevant to me fuck 🤦♂️
Grief...Yes. Many different levels. It's a bit of an ouch!❤Thank you for all you offer
Thanks for sharing your wisdom and love of truth. Blessings,peace and love to all beings of the universes
Thank you Angelo! 💜🙏🏻
You are so welcome
Thank you! Thank you
Welcome!
Oh my goodness! Thank you Angelo. This was idk nourishing? Freeing? Settling? ….Calming ! And hopeful. I’m so thankful. Love you and your efforts so much. So grateful to you. ❤️🙏🏼😊
Why is it that I’ve had several openings, things that you described in videos, but it doesn’t stick? I mean my life changed for the better because of these profound times, but it doesn’t stay in a way that it was in those times. I end up back in thought/emotions land and things seem solid, final & suffery again.
Thank you so much! This clarified something that has had me confused for a while now. And I know it's just words and maps, others have made, but when I try to use the maps, being more clear about the signs on the map helps :)
Thank you Angelo :)
Thinking back to Descartes...I think therefore I am...
Thanks, this talk was really helpful for me! One question though: Are you saying that awakening “may feel like a small deal experientially” (at 8:22)? If so, that’s really interesting and good to know. I don’t think I’ve heard that from you or anyone else before.
Thank you, Angelo. I spoke with Suzanne Chang today and she said a lot of what you just did. Vibing with the universe. Gratitude and blessings❤
Wonderful!
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake i can't fathom no Self. No Self implies no caring about Self (no love). It doesn't just seem sad, it also seems impossible.
Radical non duality speakers seem to speak the very essence of contradiction. They say there is no Self, but all they talk about is what it's like being a self. Self can't be denied. It's everything. What can be outside of One awareness? What can be outside of the kingdom of God?
@@karlskaret275just don't bother to know, it is impossible to imagine it. Let go. ❤
@@karlskaret275 A body-mind still cares about itself after it loses the sense of self, which is the sense of being a subject or an experiencer. There’s nothing about experience that requires an experiencer. Teachers like Angelo talk about what experience itself is like, not about what it’s like to be an experiencer.
Btw, I don’t know why you posted this as a reply to someone’s comment instead of directly on the video.
@RyanBowcutt there's that contradiction again "a body-mind still cares about "itself" after it loses the sense of "self."
I responded to the comment because Suzanne Chang who was mentioned contradicts herself like this.
What about all the awakening Angelo talks about. It's all nonsense if there is no Self. Yes everything is whole and complete. Nothing really awakens. But there is an undeniable sense of Self. Not dualistic. One Self. There is a reason that although radical non duality speakers say there is no self, all and only what they talk about is what self or "not self" is. Self cannot be denied. Divine Self is everything. How about experiencer doesn't need experience if you are struggling with non duality concept? We are really talking about "you" and "i" here aren't we? Otherwise there wouldn't be talking.
Sorry I get rambling.
Very insightful and reaffirming. Keeps me excited during the journey even though its always right now!
This was so so good particularly stressing going through the hard stuff and how it's something that just has to happen. I love how you worded it too. Anything worth going through has challenges that must be overcome.
Thank you
Welcome!
Thank you Angelo! ❤
Could you point to that reflectiveness Angelo? I can see just consciousness or pure unfiltered experience, but what does the reflectiveness point to?
Thank you SO much for this overview of the process- is very comforting for those of us being rocked on this roller coaster you speak of to keep trusting the unfolding. ❤🙏 The uncaused joy/relaxation though is also there 💃 and sometimes I have to suppress laughter to not appear bonkers in a bank line or such😊
can you do a video on how awakening & enlightenment relates to or affects having and raising children and a family (and wife)? I am 22 years old and there is a lot of fear, doubt, and worry about what I might do in the future (like leave my children or family) for the sake of awakening & enlightenment. I have been really trying to feel the emotions, but they're still at my door. Is there any way you can help me out? I just need more confidence that I will be able to live a typical life (family, wife, kids) without leaving them like the Buddha did (albeit prior to enlightenment). this fear and doubt about myself has been affecting my relationship. i would really appreciate it ❤️
Hey man, how are you doing now? Have you found more clarity and/or confidence in your calling? Best wishes to you & your path. 🕊
@@orangoetan2967
The path continues.
I think the strong motivation to leave home that I described in my original comment was part of a strong spiritual ego or something like that.
I'm still a "layperson" but I'm not in the same relationship anymore and the fear about leaving home if I did have children in the future is a lot softer or weaker.
"OCEANIC" 🙏
Fun fact for anyone reading this who didn't know:
The word "Dalai" of HH Dalai Lama means Ocean. It's a Mongolian word.... pretty neat history there.
❤
Thanks for the clarity!
This was very clear and very helpful, thank you! I'm so grateful for your videos
thank you, illuminating and helpful, beautifully clear ❤
Love this ♥️🔥
Where is my honeymoon then? I had that shift 3 years ago and it was life changing and said to myself: "wow it has always been here" but there was no feeling of love or unity (only for the 10 seconds or so when that happened).
What Bernadette roberts book do you recommend starting with?
It's so natural and effortless. Existence happens without resistance. No need for labels, thoughts, or identification. 🕳
🙏 🤍
Thank-you Angelo . I’m enjoying your book. Reading it slowly and absorbing 🙏😊
You mentioned a catholic nun? Was that St Theresa of Avila?
Bernadette Roberts
this resonated so much with me today! Awesome.
Thanks so much 🙏❤️
So much love emanating here. Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤
Is there light at the end of the tunnel??
Angelo is the insight you’re talking about in the first part of the video - the shift when thoughts get much less important and quiet and beingness is realized/experienced deeply - is that initial awakening or something else? When you know fundamentally that beingness / quietness is here even when there is doubt? Not getting caught in a thought world like before? These awakenings seem so different for different people. Mine aren’t usually big bangs but little cuts in identity that accumulate then the self is a lot lighter.
Hi hi, the self showed itself and I realised I was nothing more than it, living in a dream, the self has no rules pops off insights and experience whenever it wants, but many times I've asked it nd surrendered and next day, I have the insiiand the resistance is gone almost as if it's never existed, but me the ego hasn't gone it's like I'm living 2 personalities now, the ego and the self
Both the ego and the self are appearances that are appearing to an appearance that appears to appear.
Its interesting youre talk of the I am. I think I am is the language we have for it. From my experience i may also use the phrase “existence being in the place of itself”. Or like the transcendent existence knowing itself which is in that moment directly realized as not separate from you. Hence the “I am” that both includes you but is also non self referential.
Really helpful. Thank you. Is this a clip from a longer conversation that is also available?
Thank you so much Angelo, just what I needed in the exact timing I needed it 💜
😊🙏♥️
Is your book on audible thhanks
Not on audible, but on awesound , link is under vids
Had a shift a couple of nights ago. Feels like the entire universe died. Not what I signed up for. Not sure if I should cry or laugh 😂
What are your thoughts on “cessations” in the theravada tradition, specifically the “lights out” experience where things completely shut off and back on? Some teachers/traditions say this is critical to awakening, while others don’t really care about it.
to me it seems like another thing to grieve. to let go of. maybe I'm wrong but the less you experience the less there is to let go of.
I tho k one problem with using that as a litmus test is it is possible for the lights to go out and come back on and it isn’t noticed ;)
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What is the name of the Bernadette Roberts book ?
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What is the Sun ? What is the 'black hole' at the center of the 'galaxy' ? Have you seen into these things?
I’m not convinced that Ramana and Nisargadatta did not also realize no-self.
For example, Nisargadatta said to ‘Stay in the I-am to go beyond the ‘I-am’
Nisargadatta said if you regress properly the I Am thought will disappear. 🤓
Hm. I am confused. Is it possible to have had this realization without actually knowing what it was? I had a realization of the "I am sense" a couple of years ago after spending approx. 6 months nerding out on Rupert Spira and the whole "being aware of awareness" thingy. Didnt really seek enlightenment. Just wanted to know what he was talking about. And suddenly out of the blue I got this stunning realization that I was aware of being aware. And after that I kinda walked around in awe for a few days looking at the trees and the birds etc. But then I kinda shook it off and moved on with my life. I didnt see what the big deal was and there wasnt anything particulary to gain from it (my thinking back then). And now this video brought this simple message back home to me (I think). Im aware. Aware of everything like thoughts, feelings, no thoughts, anger, pain etc. Nothing ever will change that. Thoughts come and go (bla bla bla) but Im always aware. Tried self inquiry but I cant find anything. There is nothing there. Was still looking for that "aha" moment but it never came. Its just this sense/awareness of this "thing" and nothing more. Any pointers on this story of mine as Im still kinda looking/seeking. I am aware but so what? lol.... Anyways, love your videos:)!
Consider picking up the book The Unborn Gita by Pradeep Aptos.
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Experience is a side effect. This is not experiential, it's existential... ? (9 min. ) Please Angel o, do clarifie the misunderstanding one might encounter, regarding the meaning and nuances between living (This) experientially v/s living it existentially. Thank you so much for your loving dedication. 💙🙏
I am / Consciousness = Illuminated vision of reality?
*The Mystic Way 10: The Dark Night of the Soul - Jessica Davidson*
... The great contemplatives, those destined to attain the full stature of the mystic, emerge from this period of destitution, however long and drastic it may be, as from a new purification. It is for them the gateway to a higher state. But persons of a less heroic spirituality, if they enter the Night at all may succumb to its dangers and pains. This 'great negation' is the sorting-house of the spiritual life. Here we part from the 'nature mystics,' the mystic poets, and all who shared in and were contented with the illuminated vision of reality. Those who go on are the great and strong spirits, who do not seek to know, but are driven to be."
There are no states, higher or lower, outside of the appearance that starts with I AM.
Seems like almost everything has to do with they first awakening. I've seen your playlists but it's not clear how does one work towards that.
That*
start with basics of awakening then move to awakening approaches in the playlists
Who are you talking to?
Turiya and Turiyatita
Gone beyond, beyond beyond
Just "am", no "I".
Thank you