Love my 700 grizzly. I'd like a 1000 but I don't think for a second I've needed more power. I do amazing things with the 700. The low end grunt and simplicity of the 700 stroker is awesome. I love it. I'm getting a little sick of all the "stay relevant" comments from reviewers. You know what the competition needs with bigger engines need to stay relevant? They need the reliability of the grizzly!!! Few have it. Certainly not canam or Polaris.
@@lukegrady5357 I dont have a grizzly but I saw some guys talking about that issue and that it was fixed by cleaning up the terminals on the switch and putting dielectric grease on it.
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@@froglaps40 Who wouldn't want to drive something like that around? I certainly wouldn't want one no, but I'd be a liar to say I wouldn't give it a whirl.
I buy Yamaha, and will always buy Yamaha despite the lack of power because I keep my bikes for 10+ years. Touch wood the only thing I ever end up fixing are bearings and replacing tires . . .
We are a can am and Yamaha family. Both are great bikes. I grew up on a can am 90cc and then went to a 99 kodiak 400 that we still have today. Only ever had to replace the battery 20 years later. Great bike!
I’m not saying it’s not a wear item, cause it is. And yes, eventually it will need to be replaced, but the super-majority of belt failures are operator error. I have a RZR XP1K with over 700 miles of aggressive riding in east coast trails and my belt looks the same as it did new. In fact, out of my whole riding group the only belt that’s ever been changed due to failure was on a RZR 800 that was primarily operated (and beat on) by children. And that belt didn’t break, it was just badly worn and popped off the clutches. We have powerful machines (800-up) and ride aggressively through gnarly, wet, rocky, steep trails and our belts are fine. There are plenty of guys getting over 6000-7000 miles on factory Polaris belts. So yes, it’s a wear item, but most failures are rider-inflicted.
Based on your video, I just purchased the non SE version. I was going to buy another Honda but I already have two and they are being sold. For years Honda has been throwing us bread crumbs as far as options and definitely power is concerned. In the 90's, Honda was a relevant car company here in Canada. So much so that I worked for them for 11 years their building cars. Honda makes a reliable machine but they lack in power and innovation.
I have an 18 kodiak 700 SE, absolutely love it after 4 years. Absolute must is ditch oem maxxis tires and put on a good HD 26”. Next is shocks. Elkas should be a game changer which I haven’t done yet. Great quad, and I’ve had zero oil burn issue with the 708 Subaru made engine, that was a2016,2017 issue mostly.
if something isn't broke don't fix it is what I've always been told and you really just can't beat the grizzly, they are bulletproof sure they may not be the fastest or most powerful but in my opinion they are one of the most reliable, I have 3000 miles on my 2016 and have had zero issues with it and it gets ridden hard but has always been maintained, it has always done everything I've asked and then some, but I would like to see a bigger engine in the future
I’ve always been a Honda and Kawasaki guy. My first ATV was a Honda Foreman great machine, but more for work than play. My next machine was a 21 Grizzly 700SE, great looking machine performs flawlessly. Hate the soft suspension and Zilla Tires. Next machine was a 12 Grizzly 550, great little machine, perfect size and great power to weight. We just recently bought a 16 Kodiak 700SE. Another great machine didn’t realize how much smaller it was than the Grizz. But it is and you guys are bang on that this is a perfect machine for the girls. I find it too small for me. My only complaint is the tires, not enough bite, I foresee some Swamp Lites in the near future. Great review of this machine, like all your videos!! You guys steered us in the direction for another great purchase!!
Just bought the 19 Kodiak EPS in Armor Gray. Also has the front diff lock for a bit less money than the SE. Yamaha wasn’t advertising On Command and diff lock on the regular EPS model but it certainly came with it. I also prefer Kodiak seating position over Grizz.
I'm buying a 2019 EPS Realtree camo that isn't an SE but has everything an SE does. The only difference is the shocks. The one you bought sold like hotcakes around here. You can't find them anywhere.
Completely underestimated the kodiak 700. I have the base model 700 and it rips. The top end speed isn’t the greatest but it has a crap ton of low end torque allowing it to just chunk dirt.
The yamaha Kodak is the only universal awesome atv I believe I'd go with. My current atv is a modded yamaha raptor 770cc with plus 2mm exhaust valves plus 3mm intake valves stroker crankshaft, 105.5mm cylinder and piston with 11:1 compression piston. Efi controller with several other things. 23" tall tires out front and 22" tall tires out Back. I enjoy fast Back woods riding, I enjoy riding something different up here between Polaris industries and arctic cat. Sorry I haven't found a utv that can hang with me on the top end. At least not yet
I don't understand why people would want change when everything works so well It's tried and it's true. Start messing around with different engines different suspensions and you have problems. The 700 has plenty enough power and it will always get you home What more do you want in ATV.
Give it a year or 2 and the grizz will be electric. When I bought my atm, I was looking for reliability. Grizzly was the 1 everyone agreed on that I talked to. I now own a 2020 Grizzly. Almost bought the kodiak, but wanted more extras.
Jason Morehouse extra clearance, extra storage pockets, not a fan of the led lights. Never owned or used a quad before either, and when I originally looked at getting a kodiak, everyone told me to buy the grizzly and I would be happier with it. I didn’t get the one with the 14’s and zillas, I’m young but old school: less rim and more rubber. Still looking for a good upgrade tire for where I live. Main use of my quad is hunting, so need something that will climb over logs and slash piles, but still pull through skeg. Buddy I hunt with runs his Honda foreman on 27” interco swap lites. I was thinking of going to a square setup and running the 28” version for more lug but just don’t know. At any rate, minus the tires I am happy with my Grizz.
I definitely agree that it’s not worth buying the grizz. Got lots of buddy’s with them and I just bought a 19 kodiak se and it’s almost the same minus the body work and price tag
Rock Town, could you share the ride differences between the grizzly and the Kodiak? Looking at a Kodiak, is it as smooth and plush as the grizzly? Does it turn better the the grizzly? I had a 16 grizzly, didn't like the 708 or the way it turned, the grizzly, at least mine, acted like you had 200 - 300 lbs on the back rack. I was never able to get it to turn like my other quads. I would really appreciate your input here, THANKS!
They are one of the most capable working machines on the market. Towing and load capacity meets and exceeds larger displacement machines. Torque and reliability #1 with best warranty in the market today! Had mine for 2 years now and never had a problem with it yet. It works 12 months a year in Northern NY!
Serious question... Why don't you guys try and review a Discovery UTV? They sell them here in Canada, I've seen them in trails, they're cool looking, inexpensive, and I'm curious as hell to know what you'd think
@@jeffmacey6482 I understand they're sponsored, but eventually people will move on from dirt trax, if they don't start showing stuff people want to see. Thousands and thousands of content creators out there would love to take dirt trax place, and they just might. You don't need a TV slot to be big anymore
Conservative Canuck I know right. I wanted them to review some Kymco ATVs their quality seems to be much better then it was just a few years ago. I make decent money and my kids are raised but the price of the Yamahas are getting so expensive.
Conservative Canuck I didn't know that. I know Kymco is assembling all BMW engines now also. I love competition it brings the prices down. I did plan to check out some CFMOTO reviews.
Unlike CAMAN who needs to to be muscel atvs yamaha is offering a utility atv. If you guys need more power a decked head, ported motor and 5 angle valve job with a fuel tuner will shut you up very quick. just add $2000 at any motor shop. you can only go so fast in the woods when trail riding.
If this has the brute force 750 vtwin id like it alot haha. Love the 750 engine that kawasaki has but the rest of everything the grizzly has is better imo
I'd take a new kodiak with no wheels. I think you should be able to buy a new atv with no wheels or tires. Its the 1st thing we all change due to where we ride. Belts are great. I replaced OEM belt 2 years ago in a 2005 KFX700. 13 years it had on it.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 compression didn't change and unless you can show different part numbers I don't believe you. also a piston and cam doesn't make a engine 'new"
I ride on Trails like this in the video would you pick the Kodiak 700 Over The Outlander 570 for this type of riding? Wow I wouldn't mind having the punch of the 570 I've heard about reliability issues with Can-Am in in general at me, on which would be better for just medium pace trail riding
I just had some family members purchase both of these and here's a few observations I made. The can am has a smooth power build with good power for the size. The Yamaha is about equal when it comes to acceleration, however there's is a lot more torque right off of the bat then tapers off quicker. The Yamaha is laid out much better for basic maintenance like changing the oil.
Are there any quads that are less likely to roll than others? I rode a Honda 520 today. It was great. Just don’t know if I want to go bigger and have a bike with the cvt. Thanks guys
In the hands of an experienced rider riding within their abilities, risk of a rollover is low. In most cases, the vehicle is being ridden irresponsibly or beyond the skill level of the rider. Take precautions such as wearing a helmet and ride at a pace you're comfortable with.
@@dirttraxtv I rode slow as hell. Lol. Maybe that’s the problem. Maybe I can feel every small change in the angle. It just felt really tippy to me. I’m also a new rider.
I just bought a 2019 EPS Realtree camo with everything the SE has except the painted finish and the red coil shocks for considerably less than an SE. Why can't Yamaha put a winch on these from the factory? I now have to spend $400.00 and a few hours putting one on. I would have been happy to pay more upfront.
I've never looked at the 850 sportsman. How do they get the driveline to work with a parallel turned sideways and still have room? The one from their bikes is pretty narrow, I don't see them having an issue putting it straight across.
People who have the SxS with the 850 Yamaha say that it is too wide it fit normal on a ATV. I have a Sportsman 1000XP and the engine is running front to back and it works great the width between your feet is smaller than my Grizzly or my Kodiak.
Not so much a review of the Kodiak, but more a comparison to the Grizzly. Yeah, before you buy a Kodiak you are going to compare it to a Grizzly. Your videos are usually awesome. But you didn’t really cover the features of the Kodiak.
Yes, they both can handle 2 people just fine, but technical they're not 2 up ATVs, so not supposed to drive with 2 people, will make it easier to flip on steep hills if ur not careful
I think two new Grizzly models 750 & 1000 V-twin engines. If Yamaha would take the 3cylinder out the yz buggy and put it into the grizzly market take over. If Honda would take the engine out of the Africa twin and put it into there atv 🥳💥✨🎆🎇market take over. We can only dream gonna purchase my son an atv this upcoming Christmas and probably me the first of next year probably gonna get him a Honda or Yamaha and me a Can am 570 Xmr
Yamaha Needs a longer wheel base. I find my Suzuki 750 doesn't "WHEELIE" when your claiming extreme obstetricals. MY Yamaha is not as Confident inspiring as my Suzuki with a load on. I think it's because The wheel base is slightly longer on my Suzuki and the engine is farther forward. The rear wheels are over the load. Unlike the Yamaha which is forward of the load when it's on the rear racks. Load on a couple salt blocks, Hay bale and Traverse up a trail. YAMAHA is very tippy.. My Yamaha has almost come over backwards on me a few times. It's for sale!
Yamaha went with the 686 due to new lower emissions and the new engine is being made in the Fuji plant that also makes the higher end Yamaha motorcycle engines. There have been issues with the 708 engine but most owners reported no problems. The 686 engine has better lower end torque but the 708 has higher HP. The 686 runs super lean and runs very hot for low emissions and improved gas mileage. The throttle mapping is improved, the power is there instantly. The new 686 engine is a torque monster but you won't win any races with it.
Tom Turd ... thank you for sharing this information ! Seems like a perfect fit for this Kodiak , hopefully the Grizzly will soon get what it deserves ( a bigger twin cylinder engine)
Tom Turd almost every ATV started with emissions issues including my Honda. Those issues were worked out on a 708 is that making it because they storm took out the plant. You can actually see the footage on UA-cam.
@@dirttraxtv Yamaha USA doesn't put prices on their website? I'm not following your logic. I look for Canadian media on youtube so that I will get information that is relevant to me.
The information in the TEST RIDE is absolutely relevant. Your only complaint is that we didn't give you CDN MSRP, which is available online within about 2 clicks.
I will never deny Yamaha ATV’s ability and reliability...it has been and still is top class 👍🏻 But, for me, they heavily lack in the “fun” department....if I need a reliable workhorse I’d buy a Yamaha...but for everything else I’ll buy almost anything else LOL
You guys realize how ridiculous you sound in this review? So the kodiak is in your opinion the new flagship because the grizz is no longer valid? And Yamaha actually sponsors your show! Here’s a hint, not everyone wants let alone needs one of your canukistan made 1000 pound 90hp vee twin behemoths, first reason is they don’t want to become friends with the service manager of their dealership since they’ll be seeing him a lot. Secondly the grizz has plenty of pop for anything you could ever want to do except drag racing the vee twins. Also, the 850 parallel twin is never going in this chassis so let that dream go. The next logical move for the grizz is an all new single cyl, no really, KTM has a 690cc single making 72hp bone stock so even if yammie bumps up the displacement and brings out an all new motor and it makes 60hp from the factory, that would be huge, and make an already great machine greater without adding more weight and mass.
TheOMEGANOX I definitely agree with you but the issue with making HP out of small motors is they loose reliability and the motors won’t last as long. I think if Yamaha was to do anything they would probably come out with a 800 twin making less power then al the other guys but the motor would last for ever
True not everyone wants a 1000cc making 90hp, but it'd be nice if Yamaha made something a bit bigger, and the wolverine 850s and yxz 1000 are quite reliable so I'm sure whatever motor Yamaha would put in the grizz, reliability wouldn't be an issue
Love my 700 grizzly. I'd like a 1000 but I don't think for a second I've needed more power. I do amazing things with the 700.
The low end grunt and simplicity of the 700 stroker is awesome. I love it.
I'm getting a little sick of all the "stay relevant" comments from reviewers.
You know what the competition needs with bigger engines need to stay relevant? They need the reliability of the grizzly!!! Few have it. Certainly not canam or Polaris.
Did they fix the 4x4 in them? Mine Switch between 2 Wheel Dr. and four-wheel-drive on the town
@@lukegrady5357 Mine is a 2011 with 300+ hrs. Never had that issue. Or any issue.
@@lukegrady5357 I dont have a grizzly but I saw some guys talking about that issue and that it was fixed by cleaning up the terminals on the switch and putting dielectric grease on it.
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Well, I don't think they'll be happy until they build a quad with the 1800cc v max v twin. Some can never be satisfied.
The VMAX is a V-4... just FYI.
@@MrNismopro Yeah, I knew that.. and a bad ass one at that, I should have thought a little more before typing, but I bet they'd still want it.
@@froglaps40 Who wouldn't want to drive something like that around? I certainly wouldn't want one no, but I'd be a liar to say I wouldn't give it a whirl.
I'd buy that!
The v-max is a V-4, not a v-twin.
We own a 2014 grizzly and a 18 kodiak. They work good and their reliable that’s what matters to me.
Wish they would make the big bears again with manual shift
So true I use one
They also are good built
I almost bought one as a kid. It was my Ferrari poster on the wall atv
More power,more power. Just how much power do you need on a utility atv? Want to go fast? buy a sport atv.
I buy Yamaha, and will always buy Yamaha despite the lack of power because I keep my bikes for 10+ years. Touch wood the only thing I ever end up fixing are bearings and replacing tires . . .
Money well spent.
We are a can am and Yamaha family. Both are great bikes. I grew up on a can am 90cc and then went to a 99 kodiak 400 that we still have today. Only ever had to replace the battery 20 years later. Great bike!
Sounds like a Honda.
Still can't beat that 10-year belt warranty and these machines.
I'm my entire life, 39yrs I've never seen a belt break or have had to replace one... 10 warrantee on a belt is a joke and for suckers
Belts only break and glaze if you abuse and misuse them. If you know how to properly operate a belt-drive CVT, you won't have problems.
I’m not saying it’s not a wear item, cause it is. And yes, eventually it will need to be replaced, but the super-majority of belt failures are operator error. I have a RZR XP1K with over 700 miles of aggressive riding in east coast trails and my belt looks the same as it did new. In fact, out of my whole riding group the only belt that’s ever been changed due to failure was on a RZR 800 that was primarily operated (and beat on) by children. And that belt didn’t break, it was just badly worn and popped off the clutches. We have powerful machines (800-up) and ride aggressively through gnarly, wet, rocky, steep trails and our belts are fine. There are plenty of guys getting over 6000-7000 miles on factory Polaris belts. So yes, it’s a wear item, but most failures are rider-inflicted.
@C-Bomb dude, I put my wild cat through 8000 km of hell in 3 summers. When put my clutch kit on, my belt still looked brand new
20 years on my 2000 Kodiak belt 👍🏻
Based on your video, I just purchased the non SE version. I was going to buy another Honda but I already have two and they are being sold. For years Honda has been throwing us bread crumbs as far as options and definitely power is concerned. In the 90's, Honda was a relevant car company here in Canada. So much so that I worked for them for 11 years their building cars. Honda makes a reliable machine but they lack in power and innovation.
Why change something that works great
He's not saying they need to change the Kodiak, it's in a perfect place. The grizzly is what needs that new 850 twin.
Honda motto.
I have an 18 kodiak 700 SE, absolutely love it after 4 years. Absolute must is ditch oem maxxis tires and put on a good HD 26”. Next is shocks. Elkas should be a game changer which I haven’t done yet. Great quad, and I’ve had zero oil burn issue with the 708 Subaru made engine, that was a2016,2017 issue mostly.
I have 2016 Kodiak 700 eps se. Very happy with it. Quick. Very capable. This review is very accurate.
Awesome! I'm sure you're enjoying it. It is a great ATV.
if something isn't broke don't fix it is what I've always been told and you really just can't beat the grizzly, they are bulletproof sure they may not be the fastest or most powerful but in my opinion they are one of the most reliable, I have 3000 miles on my 2016 and have had zero issues with it and it gets ridden hard but has always been maintained, it has always done everything I've asked and then some, but I would like to see a bigger engine in the future
how many times did your spark arrestor clog up?
@@BartStar009 never!
I’ve always been a Honda and Kawasaki guy. My first ATV was a Honda Foreman great machine, but more for work than play. My next machine was a 21 Grizzly 700SE, great looking machine performs flawlessly. Hate the soft suspension and Zilla Tires. Next machine was a 12 Grizzly 550, great little machine, perfect size and great power to weight. We just recently bought a 16 Kodiak 700SE. Another great machine didn’t realize how much smaller it was than the Grizz. But it is and you guys are bang on that this is a perfect machine for the girls. I find it too small for me. My only complaint is the tires, not enough bite, I foresee some Swamp Lites in the near future.
Great review of this machine, like all your videos!! You guys steered us in the direction for another great purchase!!
Wish they would come out with a viking with 75-80 hp twin. I'd be interested
Just bought the 19 Kodiak EPS in Armor Gray. Also has the front diff lock for a bit less money than the SE. Yamaha wasn’t advertising On Command and diff lock on the regular EPS model but it certainly came with it. I also prefer Kodiak seating position over Grizz.
I'm buying a 2019 EPS Realtree camo that isn't an SE but has everything an SE does. The only difference is the shocks.
The one you bought sold like hotcakes around here. You can't find them anywhere.
Best machine for the money out there IMO.
It is an awesome ATV.
Completely underestimated the kodiak 700. I have the base model 700 and it rips. The top end speed isn’t the greatest but it has a crap ton of low end torque allowing it to just chunk dirt.
The yamaha Kodak is the only universal awesome atv I believe I'd go with. My current atv is a modded yamaha raptor 770cc with plus 2mm exhaust valves plus 3mm intake valves stroker crankshaft, 105.5mm cylinder and piston with 11:1 compression piston. Efi controller with several other things. 23" tall tires out front and 22" tall tires out Back. I enjoy fast Back woods riding, I enjoy riding something different up here between Polaris industries and arctic cat. Sorry I haven't found a utv that can hang with me on the top end. At least not yet
Great machines. I love my kodiak 700
I don't understand why people would want change when everything works so well It's tried and it's true. Start messing around with different engines different suspensions and you have problems. The 700 has plenty enough power and it will always get you home What more do you want in ATV.
They need a v twin 850 in the grizzly
Agreed.
Yeah, I have to agree with you there.
So does Suzuki and Honda.
Parallel twin.
Yamaha is rumored to be developing an 850...
If you want more power, buy a Polaris/Can am, if you reliability buy a Yamaha!
Give it a year or 2 and the grizz will be electric. When I bought my atm, I was looking for reliability. Grizzly was the 1 everyone agreed on that I talked to. I now own a 2020 Grizzly. Almost bought the kodiak, but wanted more extras.
Jason Morehouse extra clearance, extra storage pockets, not a fan of the led lights. Never owned or used a quad before either, and when I originally looked at getting a kodiak, everyone told me to buy the grizzly and I would be happier with it. I didn’t get the one with the 14’s and zillas, I’m young but old school: less rim and more rubber. Still looking for a good upgrade tire for where I live. Main use of my quad is hunting, so need something that will climb over logs and slash piles, but still pull through skeg. Buddy I hunt with runs his Honda foreman on 27” interco swap lites. I was thinking of going to a square setup and running the 28” version for more lug but just don’t know. At any rate, minus the tires I am happy with my Grizz.
I definitely agree that it’s not worth buying the grizz. Got lots of buddy’s with them and I just bought a 19 kodiak se and it’s almost the same minus the body work and price tag
Grizzly is still an awesome ATV, just needs at least that 850. Fingers crossed we'll see it soon.
Rock Town, could you share the ride differences between the grizzly and the Kodiak?
Looking at a Kodiak, is it as smooth and plush as the grizzly?
Does it turn better the the grizzly?
I had a 16 grizzly, didn't like the 708 or the way it turned, the grizzly, at least mine, acted like you had 200 - 300 lbs on the back rack. I was never able to get it to turn like my other quads.
I would really appreciate your input here, THANKS!
hey all just to ask every one on here i never seen any Yamaha kodiak working or pulling a trailer. or are they just for fun . thanks hughie.
They are one of the most capable working machines on the market. Towing and load capacity meets and exceeds larger displacement machines. Torque and reliability #1 with best warranty in the market today! Had mine for 2 years now and never had a problem with it yet. It works 12 months a year in Northern NY!
Polaris needs to update their shifter to something like the kodiak’s
Polaris needs to update their reliability to something that might come close to anything Yamaha has.
Serious question...
Why don't you guys try and review a Discovery UTV? They sell them here in Canada, I've seen them in trails, they're cool looking, inexpensive, and I'm curious as hell to know what you'd think
Conservative Canuck I agree it's always about Yamaha Can-Am and Polaris.
@@jeffmacey6482 I understand they're sponsored, but eventually people will move on from dirt trax, if they don't start showing stuff people want to see. Thousands and thousands of content creators out there would love to take dirt trax place, and they just might. You don't need a TV slot to be big anymore
Conservative Canuck I know right. I wanted them to review some Kymco ATVs their quality seems to be much better then it was just a few years ago. I make decent money and my kids are raised but the price of the Yamahas are getting so expensive.
@@jeffmacey6482 well you might see a kymco review, they did a few on cfmoto.... Btw my Wildcat trail as a kymco engine, bullet proof motor
Conservative Canuck I didn't know that. I know Kymco is assembling all BMW engines now also. I love competition it brings the prices down. I did plan to check out some CFMOTO reviews.
Unlike CAMAN who needs to to be muscel atvs yamaha is offering a utility atv. If you guys need more power a decked head, ported motor and 5 angle valve job with a fuel tuner will shut you up very quick. just add $2000 at any motor shop.
you can only go so fast in the woods when trail riding.
AND some people don't just ride their quads in the woods!
If this has the brute force 750 vtwin id like it alot haha. Love the 750 engine that kawasaki has but the rest of everything the grizzly has is better imo
The way the front bump bar is made looks like it's going to be rusting from the inside out. I don't see where the water can escape from it.
Aaron S there’s slots drilled in the bottom and the inside is sprayed. I’ve got one should be interesting to c how long it holds up
@@rocktown1584 Cool thanks.
Cant believe someone would pay 9k for that.. colors is fantastic!!
cybermavrik I love Yamaha. But you're right that price is absolutely ridiculous.
I bought a 2019 Kodiak 700 eps for $6700 out the door
@@christophersimmons2771 that's a steal!
I'd take a new kodiak with no wheels. I think you should be able to buy a new atv with no wheels or tires. Its the 1st thing we all change due to where we ride. Belts are great. I replaced OEM belt 2 years ago in a 2005 KFX700. 13 years it had on it.
Itching for the 2021 Yamaha ATV/UTV lineup release! When’s it going to be? They already announced the dirt bike lineup which was extremely boring.
No word just yet. We're waiting on an official timetable.
Whens full episode
This Saturday.
the new 686 engine is made by Fuji, the older 708 engine was made by Subaru
that's false.... 1st of all Fuji is owned by Subaru and 2nd of all the 686 is a Yamaha engine. there is nothing "new" about it either.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 whats new about it?
Just the heads were made by subaru on the 708. The 686 is all yamaha. The 708 has issues because of the heads.
If u want good power & a good atv get a kawasaki brute 750.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 compression didn't change and unless you can show different part numbers I don't believe you. also a piston and cam doesn't make a engine 'new"
I ride on Trails like this in the video would you pick the Kodiak 700 Over The Outlander 570 for this type of riding? Wow I wouldn't mind having the punch of the 570 I've heard about reliability issues with Can-Am in in general at me, on which would be better for just medium pace trail riding
I just had some family members purchase both of these and here's a few observations I made. The can am has a smooth power build with good power for the size. The Yamaha is about equal when it comes to acceleration, however there's is a lot more torque right off of the bat then tapers off quicker. The Yamaha is laid out much better for basic maintenance like changing the oil.
Are there any quads that are less likely to roll than others? I rode a Honda 520 today. It was great. Just don’t know if I want to go bigger and have a bike with the cvt. Thanks guys
In the hands of an experienced rider riding within their abilities, risk of a rollover is low. In most cases, the vehicle is being ridden irresponsibly or beyond the skill level of the rider. Take precautions such as wearing a helmet and ride at a pace you're comfortable with.
@@dirttraxtv I rode slow as hell. Lol. Maybe that’s the problem. Maybe I can feel every small change in the angle. It just felt really tippy to me. I’m also a new rider.
@@kyjelly5524 Not sure what trails you were riding on. They may have been a bit advanced for your experience level.
Ive been wanting one of these in the 2020 version so this is great!
Did they fix the 4x4?
I just bought a 2019 EPS Realtree camo with everything the SE has except the painted finish and the red coil shocks for considerably less than an SE.
Why can't Yamaha put a winch on these from the factory? I now have to spend $400.00 and a few hours putting one on. I would have been happy to pay more upfront.
Tom Giovanni my 18 EPS SE came with a free winch. Special offer at the time. Included installation
Are these good machines ?
Yes.
@@dirttraxtv Better than Honda? Honda is all sold out in my area. Looks like they have Kodiak's and Grizzly available though
YesX2
Great ATV, Thank You Yamaha!!!
the next grizzly will be an 850 parallel twin turned sideways like the polaris 850 sportsman
I've never looked at the 850 sportsman. How do they get the driveline to work with a parallel turned sideways and still have room? The one from their bikes is pretty narrow, I don't see them having an issue putting it straight across.
People who have the SxS with the 850 Yamaha say that it is too wide it fit normal on a ATV. I have a Sportsman 1000XP and the engine is running front to back and it works great the width between your feet is smaller than my Grizzly or my Kodiak.
Not so much a review of the Kodiak, but more a comparison to the Grizzly.
Yeah, before you buy a Kodiak you are going to compare it to a Grizzly.
Your videos are usually awesome. But you didn’t really cover the features of the Kodiak.
We got a 04 kodiak 450 really i like it more than our rancher 420
Are you guys gonna review the 2020 Kodiak SE?
It's pretty much the same as this one.
@@dirttraxtv Okay. Sweet. Wasn't sure. Thanks! 👊🏼
Very well presented.
Thank you kindly!
YAMAHA....please bring back the solid rear axle AND manual shift, or at least make it an option!
how many KM they do whit 1L of diesel ?
Whats the main differences between the Kodiak and Grizzly?
Size and price
Bells and whistles
Great and all but the bumper needs to be heavier. For farm work and beating it through trees
Is the Kodiak or the Grizzly suitable for two People? Thx for your Answers!
absolutely. I have a Kodiak 450 that runs with 2 just fine.
Yes, they both can handle 2 people just fine, but technical they're not 2 up ATVs, so not supposed to drive with 2 people, will make it easier to flip on steep hills if ur not careful
What's the weight capacity??
I love atv. But at malaysia not sale atv
What's the difference if there both 700 ??
Bells and whistles
I’m not gonna look at Yamaha till the they v twin this beast .....YAMAHA ITS TIME!!!!!!
Buy a Can-Am...
I think two new Grizzly models 750 & 1000 V-twin engines. If Yamaha would take the 3cylinder out the yz buggy and put it into the grizzly market take over. If Honda would take the engine out of the Africa twin and put it into there atv 🥳💥✨🎆🎇market take over. We can only dream gonna purchase my son an atv this upcoming Christmas and probably me the first of next year probably gonna get him a Honda or Yamaha and me a Can am 570 Xmr
700 is plenty powerful
I did not think atvs would all go to a belt drive. Back in the day I laughed at em.
Yamaha Needs a longer wheel base. I find my Suzuki 750 doesn't "WHEELIE" when your claiming extreme obstetricals.
MY Yamaha is not as Confident inspiring as my Suzuki with a load on. I think it's because The wheel base is slightly longer on my Suzuki and the engine is farther forward. The rear wheels are over the load. Unlike the Yamaha which is forward of the load when it's on the rear racks. Load on a couple salt blocks, Hay bale and Traverse up a trail. YAMAHA is very tippy.. My Yamaha has almost come over backwards on me a few times. It's for sale!
So glad I grew up and bought a 850 outlander 👍🏻
Be nice to the service department 🤷♂️
A Special Edition that doesn't come with a winch. Paint and mags only for the extra $$$$. Hmmmmm.
It’s nice 👍 but for $9,300 I’d just get the Grizzly .
Why did they go from 708cc back to a 686cc engine platform for these Yamaha ATV ‘s ?
Yamaha went with the 686 due to new lower emissions and the new engine is being made in the Fuji plant that also makes the higher end Yamaha motorcycle engines. There have been issues with the 708 engine but most owners reported no problems. The 686 engine has better lower end torque but the 708 has higher HP. The 686 runs super lean and runs very hot for low emissions and improved gas mileage. The throttle mapping is improved, the power is there instantly. The new 686 engine is a torque monster but you won't win any races with it.
Tom Turd ... thank you for sharing this information !
Seems like a perfect fit for this Kodiak , hopefully the Grizzly will soon get what it deserves ( a bigger twin cylinder engine)
Tom Turd almost every ATV started with emissions issues including my Honda. Those issues were worked out on a 708 is that making it because they storm took out the plant. You can actually see the footage on UA-cam.
@@jeffmacey6482 Lot of problems with the 708 smoking. The 686 is bullet proof
@@NorthwoodsNomadthat is a Yamaha engine, the 686. the 708 has been reported to be made by Fuji
Justin wants more diversity in the ATV market
Tôi rất thích loại xe này.😀👍
Prices in Canadian $$ please!
You can find all the pricing on the Yamaha Canada website. It is not a bad site and actually pretty easy to navigate.
@@dirttraxtv Yamaha USA doesn't put prices on their website? I'm not following your logic. I look for Canadian media on youtube so that I will get information that is relevant to me.
The information in the TEST RIDE is absolutely relevant. Your only complaint is that we didn't give you CDN MSRP, which is available online within about 2 clicks.
Just checked that literally took me 2 clicks from the homepage. I know you can do it!!
Furthermore, Yamaha USA provides US MSRP on its site as well. Good luck.
I will never deny Yamaha ATV’s ability and reliability...it has been and still is top class 👍🏻
But, for me, they heavily lack in the “fun” department....if I need a reliable workhorse I’d buy a Yamaha...but for everything else I’ll buy almost anything else LOL
Chingon 😎😎😎😎
3 moto ATV guys disliked the video
Same tired single cylinder.
That thing looks like it’s from 2003
You guys realize how ridiculous you sound in this review? So the kodiak is in your opinion the new flagship because the grizz is no longer valid? And Yamaha actually sponsors your show! Here’s a hint, not everyone wants let alone needs one of your canukistan made 1000 pound 90hp vee twin behemoths, first reason is they don’t want to become friends with the service manager of their dealership since they’ll be seeing him a lot. Secondly the grizz has plenty of pop for anything you could ever want to do except drag racing the vee twins. Also, the 850 parallel twin is never going in this chassis so let that dream go. The next logical move for the grizz is an all new single cyl, no really, KTM has a 690cc single making 72hp bone stock so even if yammie bumps up the displacement and brings out an all new motor and it makes 60hp from the factory, that would be huge, and make an already great machine greater without adding more weight and mass.
Well, I don't think they'll be happy until they build a quad with the 1800cc v max v twin. Some can never be satisfied.
TheOMEGANOX I definitely agree with you but the issue with making HP out of small motors is they loose reliability and the motors won’t last as long. I think if Yamaha was to do anything they would probably come out with a 800 twin making less power then al the other guys but the motor would last for ever
True not everyone wants a 1000cc making 90hp, but it'd be nice if Yamaha made something a bit bigger, and the wolverine 850s and yxz 1000 are quite reliable so I'm sure whatever motor Yamaha would put in the grizz, reliability wouldn't be an issue
The 850 has 69 hp and should be very reliable. The yxz 1000 is a 3 cyl and wouldn’t fit in an atv.
@@gregrowe1168 yeah, my point was if they make a new 1000 for the grizz, reliability wouldn't be an issue. Given there track record