Thanks for this. I'm teaching my 9 year old how to build a PC tomorrow and I bought this case, but wanted to watch a walkthrough before showing him what to do. We're cramming an i9-13900KS and PNY 4090 into ours. Super excited!
Thanks for the great video! Made a build using the NR200P Max following the video and it works great. Got frightened a bit when it didn't power on but fortunately it was the PSU 0/1 switch on the inside of the case :)
Being able to pull off the PCI backplate to be able to install the GPU more easily is absolutely genius. If I could just finally make piece with case designs that don't allow you to see your CPU/RAM and GPU at the same time for maximum eye candy, this case would be a definite contender.
I noticed you placed the bottom Fans as intake. Have you tried them as exhaust, top as exhaust. You have air pushing back into the GPU heat sink that is trying to draw its warm air out .
Thank you for a very thorough build video! I just bought this case and similar components. You explained everything very well so that there's really no question as to what needs to be done and how to do it. Thanks again!
Not sure about that, as the hot air will be blowing down over the desk and up into your face (have tired something similar before in another case). Also the fans were too loud for my liking.
You always want your exhaust to be higher up, in this case at the top of the case. Thermodynamics state that heat rises, I think I'll listen to that haha.
@@Mars057 when using the perforated panel, the gpu gets side intake and blows air both up and down, so having bottom exhaust helps taking the hot air from the gpu away. (That's the theory behind it tho, I haven't seen relative testing results yet)
Absolutely not... Heat rises. Having your heat exhaust down will cause a lot of it to be sucked back into the machine and exhausted again. Have the bottom fans as intake, moving cool air from the bottom into the case, to be exhausted out the top.
I think you might have mounted the fans upside down. I will be building this exact case and i think i will do research with one fan as intake and the other as exhaust. My theory is it the fans will allow a more circular air flow. Intake fan pushing cold air into the gpu while also pushing air past it, around the case, and having the second fan “exhaust” push the remaining hot air outside. Not sure how this will work but i dont plan on using the glass panel so i might not use fans to avoid the fan noise
Thank you so much for the guide! The documentation didn't mention the fan cable in the back that you have to pull through. Couldn't understand why my fans weren't working.
Thank you for showing the CPU fan wiring. The poorly written manual does not even show that connector and I missed it during install because it was buried behind a wiring bundle.
Cooler master only had to move up the GPU slot 4mm to allow for full-size fans at the bottom. That would have improved your numbers. I can't find a logical reason for them not to do it.
Why dont set the fans on the bottom to exhaust?? to me that makes a lot more sense, so the heat of the GPU gets exhausted partially at the bottom and not pushed through the cooling grill of the AiO. Can someone correct me if im wrong or confirm that its better to set the fans to exhaust? ill build my nr200max tomorrow as my dan a4 h2o is troublesome in terms of thermals btw, excellent build and content by you, Christopher! merry christmas to y'all!
@@fsxspenthinking about testing out one fan as intake and one as exhaust. My theory is the air flow would be more of a circle, intake will push air up and around the case, while the exhaust will just push that air out. Not sure though dont want excessive noise so i might not run any
Hey Chris, not sure if you have this build still kicking around, but I'd be interested to see how the thermals would fare with your two bottom fans set for exhaust rather than intake. In theory, the bottom exhaust would help to pull the hot air from the GPU heatsink, and increase negative pressure, which would in turn pull more cool air through the vented side panel. I'd guess this would be a fairly significant difference in temps, but theory vs practice can definitely surprise us. I'm thinking about picking up this case for a 12700k/3090 build soon, and I'd be interested to know if that setup would produce significantly better temps than a setup with no bottom fans.
@@MBpotato89 Yep, that's how I've been running it since I built it, going strong 3 or 4 months now. GPU temps are great, CPU temps leave a bit to be desired, but a more aggressive fan curve on the radiator-mounted fans keep temps healthy at the expense of a bit of noise. Generally under gaming loads I'm seeing GPU temps around 56-64c, CPU temps in the mid 70's or lower. Some particularly CPU intensive games can pull that to 78-ish, but I've got the fans set to kick on to 100% there, so it doesn't exceed 80c except for very brief spikes before the fans pick up.
Another good one ... Even tho I still don't get why people choose to go through the ordeal of installing their system in such tiny, clustered cases, you did a good job at answering most of my questions concerning this particular one...
I'm currently building a SFF PC. SF helped me a ton with his TU 150 build. Especially on the parts list and fan header part. That case is pretty rare where I live, but love the idea of how you can carry it like a suitcase. Basically a somewhat "portable" build if you don't to use a laptop and want to upgrade when the time arrives. Just hoping the darn thing posts but still deciding if I should go Linux or spectre with a "key".
Awesome build video - Thank you. I just built mine with a Ryzen 7 7800x3D and a RX 7800 XT. As a first time PC Builder, I didn't install the fans on the bottom and my current CPU package temperature is around 35-40 degrees Celsius on idle and I need to improve my cable management. Do you foresee any GPU sag issue? The GPU stand I received with the 7800 XT is too tall to fit in unfortunately. Also, to confirm, the AIO 3-pin cable goes in the Pump header along with the Radiator fan cable to the CPU fan header - Is this correct? Thanks.
Hei I got the NR200p Max long with an Aorus x570 i pro wifi which has a CPU_ FAN and only one SYS_FAN.. NO particular AIO_ FAN header.. can I plug the pump in the sys_fan? I read online that some people switch the cables and plug the pump in the cpu_fan ?!
how can you get those temp? i use intel 13700k. just installed thermalight cpu frame. it does drop abit. on average i got 50c. on cinebench it throttled to 100c. do you know the fix?
is the nr200p will hold a 3080ti aorus master and 12700K ? with or without OC ? the stock 240mm liq cooler can hold this cpu ? and this rig ? can it fit? and does the 850W will hold this ?
Hi Chris, I am a total newbie with a question. Would a WiFi Card fit in this case build, if I bought a MB without wi fi? I live off grid, so rely on wi fi, but I would wish to upgrade it when wi fi 7 comes out. The alternative is, if I bought a MB with wi fi, would I be able to upgrade the wi fi? Many thanks Chris
Hi, excellent video, very detailed. I have a question regarding new rtx 4000. I am planning on building a pc using nr200p max case. I have noticed that new rtx 4000 series cards are using 3 or even 4 separate 8 pin PCIE cables. If I am not mistaken, the case comes with only 2. As I am a begginer in PC world, could you please explain me how it works and how can I safely install rtx 4080 in this case ? Is it even possible ?
I'm in a similar position, I have a 6950xt and it wants 3 pcie power connectors like his gpu in the video. The cooler master psu only comes with two cables, and you can see him use the pigtail in the video. The internet is kinda back-and-forth about if this is ok or not, but I think the idea is this; if you're getting crashes or visual problems, try upgrading your cables. If not, the two cables is fine.
I've just bought this Nr200P Max, and use ASUS Rog strix B660i mainboard. Can you advise how to change the AIO fan flow direction? Is there a way to change using software? As default, my AIO fan is set as intake. I want to change it to exhaust. Thank you so much!
14:58 can u fix the fan splitter to the motherboard by just removing the riser cable after everything is assembled? cuz i have the same motherboard and i dont wanna go through trouble of removing the GPU again
I have a 3700X system with the same motherboard as yours. I don't like the temps that you got from the NR200P MAX. It seems it is suffering from the hot exhaust of the GPU be it horizontal or vertical mounted.
Your ambient must be ideal, however, my ambient is 34C as I don't use AC with my NCase M1 V5 with CPU temps hitting 90C. I was eyeing the NR200P MAX as a fix for my issue but I have changed my mind thanks to your reviews. I have chosen to go for a high air flow case which is a bit larger than the NR200.
HI , I just come a cross your video, Stillh have my lian mesh, but thinking of downgrading to this as i have a bad back and lian mesh is heavy, Wlll this case take my Rtx 3080 Gaming Z trio, the only Differnce between my version of card compared to the old X version, that mine now has a metal back plate, Hope it ftis , ? thanks
I just finished my first custom loop in the nr200p. I have to say it’s my favorite case but my god the temps are terrible. Looking to switch to something else.
@@MyKillyy heyyo- I was determined to make it work so I added a slim 240 radiator to the top. Haven’t benchmarked but playing battlefield 2042 on ultra for 3-5 hours straight my 3080 stays around 65 and my 5600x stays around 70-75 with random spikes to 80.
@@MyKillyy with one rad at the bottom cooling both 3080 and 5600x. The cpu would thermal throttle after 10 mins of gameplay and shut down the pc. While the gpu was around 75 with peaks at 80.
There is something REALLY weird with your build if a AMD Ryzen 3700X can reach 93c in a 30 minute AIDA64 stress test in 20c ambient temps. This case has a 280mm AIO waterblock, and should be able to keep this particular CPU below 80c. With PBO enabled, the 3700X should max out at about 110 Watts, something this case and cooler should easily be able to keep cool. Would love to see temp and audio results with better application of thermal paste / with different fan speeds on the radiator Perhaps even the BIOS is giving the CPU too much juice?
It's a little late but he does stress cpu and gpu simultaneously, so the warm gpu heat rises along the cpu and into the radiator as well so in that case (no pun intended) the temps make perfect sense and aren't too shabby.
Why PC building is still the same? It should be by now like Lego pieces, without worrying about compatibility, sizes, cable management, etc. I know it is fun for a lot, but for others its a nightmare and ugly.
Best step by step tutorial for NR200P MAX for far on YT. Certainly I will come back here once I start building the system.
How did the build go ?
Thanks for this. I'm teaching my 9 year old how to build a PC tomorrow and I bought this case, but wanted to watch a walkthrough before showing him what to do. We're cramming an i9-13900KS and PNY 4090 into ours. Super excited!
Great help and very easy to follow.
Glad it helped
Thanks for the great video! Made a build using the NR200P Max following the video and it works great. Got frightened a bit when it didn't power on but fortunately it was the PSU 0/1 switch on the inside of the case :)
It got me too.
Being able to pull off the PCI backplate to be able to install the GPU more easily is absolutely genius. If I could just finally make piece with case designs that don't allow you to see your CPU/RAM and GPU at the same time for maximum eye candy, this case would be a definite contender.
Agreed. If you only have limited space this is perfect
I noticed you placed the bottom
Fans as intake. Have you tried them as exhaust, top as exhaust. You have air pushing back into the GPU heat sink that is trying to draw its warm air out .
This guide helped me so much , it was my first pc build but with am5 system so I was reading manuals and following with you , thank you so much man
Does not surprise me....another excellent build and review Christopher!!! Well done!! Can't wait for the i5 12600 review!!
Thank you for a very thorough build video! I just bought this case and similar components. You explained everything very well so that there's really no question as to what needs to be done and how to do it. Thanks again!
As always enjoying watching your videos. No bullshit! Straight to the point!
Great build! Solid fan here from the Philippines.
I'm gonna build according to this video. Thank you for another detailed and easy to follow walkthrough!
I followed this for my build and it was a great help. Cheers 🍻
Bottom fans as exhaust is the ticket. Might even be able to put 25mm fans as exhaust down below.
Not sure about that, as the hot air will be blowing down over the desk and up into your face (have tired something similar before in another case). Also the fans were too loud for my liking.
You always want your exhaust to be higher up, in this case at the top of the case. Thermodynamics state that heat rises, I think I'll listen to that haha.
@@Mars057 when using the perforated panel, the gpu gets side intake and blows air both up and down, so having bottom exhaust helps taking the hot air from the gpu away. (That's the theory behind it tho, I haven't seen relative testing results yet)
@@JoHo_ Optimum Tech did bottom and top exhausts with the steel panel.
Absolutely not... Heat rises. Having your heat exhaust down will cause a lot of it to be sucked back into the machine and exhausted again. Have the bottom fans as intake, moving cool air from the bottom into the case, to be exhausted out the top.
HI. I mounted the same fan model as shown in the video. The cold air comes out at the bottom. It's normal?
I think you might have mounted the fans upside down. I will be building this exact case and i think i will do research with one fan as intake and the other as exhaust. My theory is it the fans will allow a more circular air flow. Intake fan pushing cold air into the gpu while also pushing air past it, around the case, and having the second fan “exhaust” push the remaining hot air outside. Not sure how this will work but i dont plan on using the glass panel so i might not use fans to avoid the fan noise
Great build. Convinced me that this will be my next build.
Thank you so much for the guide! The documentation didn't mention the fan cable in the back that you have to pull through. Couldn't understand why my fans weren't working.
Thanks a lot! It was a huge help for my build :)
Thank you for showing the CPU fan wiring. The poorly written manual does not even show that connector and I missed it during install because it was buried behind a wiring bundle.
Same for me.
Great content. Love the accent😊
Nice build..love the case 🎉
Cooler master only had to move up the GPU slot 4mm to allow for full-size fans at the bottom. That would have improved your numbers.
I can't find a logical reason for them not to do it.
Would do wonders.
Why dont set the fans on the bottom to exhaust?? to me that makes a lot more sense, so the heat of the GPU gets exhausted partially at the bottom and not pushed through the cooling grill of the AiO. Can someone correct me if im wrong or confirm that its better to set the fans to exhaust? ill build my nr200max tomorrow as my dan a4 h2o is troublesome in terms of thermals
btw, excellent build and content by you, Christopher!
merry christmas to y'all!
My Bottom fans exhaust, saw one guy report he had a few degrees lower.
@@fsxspenthinking about testing out one fan as intake and one as exhaust. My theory is the air flow would be more of a circle, intake will push air up and around the case, while the exhaust will just push that air out. Not sure though dont want excessive noise so i might not run any
you can put a 140mm chromax in the bottom with one of the slim 120's as well. i added a commander pro to mine too mounted in the front panel.
Hey Chris, not sure if you have this build still kicking around, but I'd be interested to see how the thermals would fare with your two bottom fans set for exhaust rather than intake. In theory, the bottom exhaust would help to pull the hot air from the GPU heatsink, and increase negative pressure, which would in turn pull more cool air through the vented side panel. I'd guess this would be a fairly significant difference in temps, but theory vs practice can definitely surprise us.
I'm thinking about picking up this case for a 12700k/3090 build soon, and I'd be interested to know if that setup would produce significantly better temps than a setup with no bottom fans.
100% agreed, bottom exhaust all the way with vented side panel!
Did you ever try it out in exhaust configuration?
@@MBpotato89 Yep, that's how I've been running it since I built it, going strong 3 or 4 months now. GPU temps are great, CPU temps leave a bit to be desired, but a more aggressive fan curve on the radiator-mounted fans keep temps healthy at the expense of a bit of noise.
Generally under gaming loads I'm seeing GPU temps around 56-64c, CPU temps in the mid 70's or lower. Some particularly CPU intensive games can pull that to 78-ish, but I've got the fans set to kick on to 100% there, so it doesn't exceed 80c except for very brief spikes before the fans pick up.
Nice detailed review, thank you very much 😊
why gpu looks hanging
What kind of splitter cable would I need if I wanted RGB fans ?
Another good one ...
Even tho I still don't get why people choose to go through the ordeal of installing their system in such tiny, clustered cases, you did a good job at answering most of my questions concerning this particular one...
The same reason I want to build in a small case... lack of space. I still have yet to build one after watching all these vids
Us young people love small things.
And it's definitely interesting to see what you can fit in such a small space!
@@thetechrealist I am an old git ... But if it counts I managed to stick a micro machine in my ear hole when I was 5 years old
I'm currently building a SFF PC. SF helped me a ton with his TU 150 build. Especially on the parts list and fan header part. That case is pretty rare where I live, but love the idea of how you can carry it like a suitcase. Basically a somewhat "portable" build if you don't to use a laptop and want to upgrade when the time arrives. Just hoping the darn thing posts but still deciding if I should go Linux or spectre with a "key".
Limited space for some, other just like it
Really helpful, thank you!
great video, great advice. thanks. you helped me out a lot.
Thanks for making the video.
Is it bad if you try using the noctuas under the gpu as exhaust?
Hi! I'm wondering, if 17mm thin chassis fans are thin enough for the bottom? The 15mm ones are really expensive here in finland. Thanks!
you just made me buy one!
Which 4000 series card is space compatible today?
You know where the coolant pipes go into the CPU block, do you think can they be rotated / swivelled to a different position?
Awesome build video - Thank you. I just built mine with a Ryzen 7 7800x3D and a RX 7800 XT. As a first time PC Builder, I didn't install the fans on the bottom and my current CPU package temperature is around 35-40 degrees Celsius on idle and I need to improve my cable management. Do you foresee any GPU sag issue? The GPU stand I received with the 7800 XT is too tall to fit in unfortunately. Also, to confirm, the AIO 3-pin cable goes in the Pump header along with the Radiator fan cable to the CPU fan header - Is this correct? Thanks.
Hei I got the NR200p Max long with an Aorus x570 i pro wifi which has a CPU_ FAN and only one SYS_FAN.. NO particular AIO_ FAN header.. can I plug the pump in the sys_fan? I read online that some people switch the cables and plug the pump in the cpu_fan ?!
hi, tell me I have the NR200p max and for motherboard a gigabyte b550I aorus pro ax I want to know where to plug the cable of the AIO CPU ???
how can you get those temp? i use intel 13700k. just installed thermalight cpu frame. it does drop abit. on average i got 50c. on cinebench it throttled to 100c. do you know the fix?
Did you need to buy the double fan splitter cable for the bottom fans?
yes
is the nr200p will hold a 3080ti aorus master and 12700K ? with or without OC ?
the stock 240mm liq cooler can hold this cpu ? and this rig ? can it fit? and does the 850W will hold this ?
Was looking forward to a stress test
Nice video sir , very informative.👍 I have a question, did you ground yourself while building this pc?
which motherboard should i use for this case and ddr4 ram in 2022?
can i use a ryzen 7 5800x istead of your cpu ?
Great review.
Hi Chris, I am a total newbie with a question. Would a WiFi Card fit in this case build, if I bought a MB without wi fi?
I live off grid, so rely on wi fi, but I would wish to upgrade it when wi fi 7 comes out.
The alternative is, if I bought a MB with wi fi, would I be able to upgrade the wi fi?
Many thanks Chris
When is this gonna be available? US region,
Hi, excellent video, very detailed. I have a question regarding new rtx 4000. I am planning on building a pc using nr200p max case. I have noticed that new rtx 4000 series cards are using 3 or even 4 separate 8 pin PCIE cables. If I am not mistaken, the case comes with only 2. As I am a begginer in PC world, could you please explain me how it works and how can I safely install rtx 4080 in this case ? Is it even possible ?
I'm in a similar position, I have a 6950xt and it wants 3 pcie power connectors like his gpu in the video. The cooler master psu only comes with two cables, and you can see him use the pigtail in the video. The internet is kinda back-and-forth about if this is ok or not, but I think the idea is this; if you're getting crashes or visual problems, try upgrading your cables. If not, the two cables is fine.
This case is fantastic but in Canada it's not available at all anymore. Is there a comparable Case with the same SFF and included AIO/PSU out there?
NZXT H1 V2
Great video, 11:44 Where the frontpanel plugs allready bundled in sort of a G-connector type plug ?
Yes, although it’s removable.
i hope you make update video for this case with a build of i5 13600k and 4070ti
are the included fans / PSU silent when PC is sitting idle in windows?
Yes. Mine are also silent under load because I tuned the fan curves. You may do so either in the BIOS or using the Fancontrol utility in Windows.
Does the pc perform well? I would like to build it.
I've just bought this Nr200P Max, and use ASUS Rog strix B660i mainboard. Can you advise how to change the AIO fan flow direction? Is there a way to change using software? As default, my AIO fan is set as intake. I want to change it to exhaust. Thank you so much!
You have to unscrew fans and flip em over lol
@@MiguelRodriguez-my3dg
😂 so easy.
Is it okay to only use 2 pcie 8 pin connectors for your gpu power even though your gpu has 3 ports?
If you want to install a 4080/4090, Cooler Master sells a 90 degree 12VHPWR cable that is compatible with this PSU. Highly recommended.
14:58 can u fix the fan splitter to the motherboard by just removing the riser cable after everything is assembled?
cuz i have the same motherboard and i dont wanna go through trouble of removing the GPU again
I have jst built my pc in this case and im getting 65 dB on idle? Can someone help me please?
I have adjusted my fan curves so i suppose its the pump?
Sounds bit noisy then, noise is a worry with this build and heat.
I have a 3700X system with the same motherboard as yours. I don't like the temps that you got from the NR200P MAX. It seems it is suffering from the hot exhaust of the GPU be it horizontal or vertical mounted.
It's the AIDA64 test - temps will never get near this with normal use
Your ambient must be ideal, however, my ambient is 34C as I don't use AC with my NCase M1 V5 with CPU temps hitting 90C. I was eyeing the NR200P MAX as a fix for my issue but I have changed my mind thanks to your reviews. I have chosen to go for a high air flow case which is a bit larger than the NR200.
Wow, 89c and 88c is very hot for the CPU.
Any reason why?
Its an aida64 30 minute stress test. Not representative of a real workload. It's designed as an absolute stress test on the cpu.
Maaaaan, i thought that you would test with the top fans as intake and the bottom as exhaust
What thermal paste does it come with, should I use a better one
The case comes with a tube of Cooler Master’s thermal interface paste. You don’t need another paste unless you happen to have some in hand.
My bottom fans are quiet and set for exhaust.
1:45 How come you got sent a European plug?
Systemic Racism
HI , I just come a cross your video, Stillh have my lian mesh, but thinking of downgrading to this as i have a bad back and lian mesh is heavy, Wlll this case take my Rtx 3080 Gaming Z trio, the only Differnce between my version of card compared to the old X version, that mine now has a metal back plate, Hope it ftis , ? thanks
You can put a 4090 in this case
I just finished my first custom loop in the nr200p. I have to say it’s my favorite case but my god the temps are terrible. Looking to switch to something else.
What are the temps and have you switched by now?
@@MyKillyy heyyo- I was determined to make it work so I added a slim 240 radiator to the top. Haven’t benchmarked but playing battlefield 2042 on ultra for 3-5 hours straight my 3080 stays around 65 and my 5600x stays around 70-75 with random spikes to 80.
@@MyKillyy with one rad at the bottom cooling both 3080 and 5600x. The cpu would thermal throttle after 10 mins of gameplay and shut down the pc. While the gpu was around 75 with peaks at 80.
Computer doesnt boot with the same specs but am5 motherboard
The screws are confusing you did not show us the screw neither no one else
There is something REALLY weird with your build if a AMD Ryzen 3700X can reach 93c in a 30 minute AIDA64 stress test in 20c ambient temps. This case has a 280mm AIO waterblock, and should be able to keep this particular CPU below 80c. With PBO enabled, the 3700X should max out at about 110 Watts, something this case and cooler should easily be able to keep cool.
Would love to see temp and audio results with better application of thermal paste / with different fan speeds on the radiator
Perhaps even the BIOS is giving the CPU too much juice?
It's a little late but he does stress cpu and gpu simultaneously, so the warm gpu heat rises along the cpu and into the radiator as well so in that case (no pun intended) the temps make perfect sense and aren't too shabby.
Way too hot for me...
hello raiser cable is gen 4 , motherboard and videocard is gen 5 , there will be performane issues ?
No
i love this case but the colour is the only sticking point for me
stupendo grazie
Be carefull, I have one and the PSU has a loud coil whine, that ruins everything ...
There's like hundred spruce and they're all different size and people are struggling
Amazing my bro... I love your videos... do you have email? I would like to contact you Christopher
Thanks. the email is in the about page
Seems like the only people getting this case are reviewers or consumers living in Asia.
If you are going to install Windows 11 on this beast, be aware you will need to purchase a TPM module for it to install.
Why PC building is still the same? It should be by now like Lego pieces, without worrying about compatibility, sizes, cable management, etc. I know it is fun for a lot, but for others its a nightmare and ugly.
I didnt even know new balance shirts existed. This may just be the whitest nerdiest dude on the planet.
are there intel 12th gen brackets included to attach the cooler?