Yeah, I'm sure he could sense something was different, probably watched his son in the ring often and didn't see even the worst pounding rip his face up like that.
It's amazing the seconds do not routinely inspect the gloves, and wraps, and watch them applied before the match. I remember they filmed it with Margarito after the Coto fight where his wraps were found to have plaster in them, but its technically not a requirement like the weigh-in.
Collins was the real winner of the fight, to continuously take punches from plaster filled gloves and still be standing is amazing. He took all that without knowing, so sad it ruined his career. RIP.🌟
Idk how he wouldn't know after the first punch. He knows what a hand in a boxing glove feels like and it was all hard then you'd feel the difference right away. I have experience from my local mma gym I go to and it's hard to imagine that I wouldn't notice that.
I knew about this fight, and the development was quite obvious, the fact the referee didn't suspect anything is one of the worst things about it, around round 4 he should've noticed the injuries were not normal.
@@Tracert-mc1hu I think there's another similar incident where the actual boxer said the other guy's gloves were rigged but the referee didn't do shit afaik.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS That’s exactly what I thought as well. Certainly wouldn’t be the first time a ref is paid off to rig a fight and it wouldn’t be the last. The constant corruption in boxing really sickens me, that and the flagrant incompetence in every level.
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Dude was never interested in a fair fight, and for that reason alone he shouldn't be allowed to set foot in an arena again. How he went about I is next level heinous. Christ.
People make mistakes and what’s the point if we don’t let people progress in life. In no way am I defending his actions, they were vile and cost a poor man his life but not allowing people to get better and prove themselves takes us nowhere.
@@DiligentX I agree and he shouldn’t be condemned forever people deserve 2nd chances. But it’s not like he got caught doping he got caught knowingly fucking up someone else’s face and knowingly potentially causing permanent damage and did it for 40 minutes straight. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be forgiven but he shouldn’t participate in the sport ever again
You can tell Billy Sr was highly suspicious after seeing the damage to his son. 3:40 He held onto that glove, felt around. He is already looking down at the gloves as he approaches for the handshake. His intentions are a handshake masquerading as an inspection and his suspicions were quickly confirmed.
@@stephentroyer3831 ya how is he going to try and deny any involvement after trying to pull his glove back like that. Quite obviously didn’t want to get caught.
@@MyDogKillsPeople I know he wouldn’t have gotten another chance to box, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that he should get a chance at redemption even though Collins won’t be able to. He already served time, he shouldn’t suffer for that his entire life
@@el1tefire252 Agreed, he can redeem himself. He just has to fight Deontay Wilder. Wilder gets to use the same gloves Resto used in the Collins fight. If he still wants to box after that, he can.
It's just a sport. A competition. There is no logic in granting second chances to that fact. Sure, second chance at making a living and a life, but hell no to playing a sport.
This is one of those cases where punishment actually could be a deterrent. Generally jail time doesn't deter other criminals, but seeing another boxer banned for life for cheating gives other boxers a reason to think twice before also cheating.
If he’s really sorry he wouldn’t want back in the ring. Another athlete was better than him and he had his life destroyed for it. The man destroyed his face for 40 minutes straight knowing full well what damage he was doing. I’m not saying he should be locked up forever but he should never step into the ring again
Yeah idk man the love of money is the root of all evil. He let greed get the best of him, I have ZERO sympathy for people who put their success above human life though.
He was young and he was definitely influenced by Panama, who basically was the person with most authority and power over him and his life, he probably didn't give it much thought since no one had really gotten that hurt before, he probably thought I'd let him get that extra edge to win by points, but Collins got really hurt and had his career ended and he eventually commited suicide. We all like to criticize what he did but we all have done something that has hurt someone knowing full well it would hurt them, we ourselves are not without fault, but if we cannot forgive him and give him a second chance to prove he has changed then how can we call ourselves, virtuous or good, and even more so how can we ask to be forgiven if we do not forgive?
@@ImmortalDaevon What with this line of thought? I have more likes so my opinion is better then yours? Are you 10? By the same logic, your video that have no likes and only dislikes, is the worst garbage on youtube.
Panama was making a killing to afford that kind of housing. He must have had a very happy loan shark with the inside scoop. Possibly millions in winnings.
You don't say.. I know a beautiful art director who makes lots of money from doing advertising for tobaco companies You have to murder people to get money. Get used to the idea. Punching other dudes in the head for money is murder. Paying to watch dudes punching each other in the head is murder.
@@criztu There is some truth to what you’re saying but in boxing there’s the idea of a “fair fight”. Now of course it’s usually not fair, but there are weight classes and rules. Panama introduced weapons.
It’s also kind of infuriating. As an experienced boxer you would definitely know the difference between being punched by padding vs a fucking rock. He probably had too much pride to call him out for cheating during the fight. That shouldn’t be inspiring. It was stupid and it ruined his career AND his life.
The hardest part of watching their fight is how hard Collins fought, even midway through the fight when his injuries were really starting to get the best of him he kept coming out his corner strong. Boy was a warrior
People can change and improve. But he doesn’t belong back in the ring. There’s a difference between killing someone by cheating and cheating to get an extra point in a video game. It’s not the same.
The fact he was taking those Brick punches to the face the whole round shows how strong he was imagine if he never died what amazing things he could done what a legend may he live on ❤️
the padding on the gloves is more for the person getting punched than the guy punching its to protect the face. back in the days of bareknuckle boxing it wasn't uncommon for a boxer to get his eye punched out of his head.
@@MrSporkdude The padding protects your hand a lot. Bare knuckle causes more cutting and superficial damage but most of the serious long-term damage from boxing is internal brain injuries. Mike Tyson famously broke his hand when he got into a street fight with another boxer. The gloves are more for the audience than for the boxers.
I think that Billy's family should be the ones to decide if Luis can box again, if they truly think he is remorseful and has paid his dues then it'd be ok in my book. But then again I am just a yt commenter, so I am the lowest of the low. RIP Billy, we have the same first name and I hope that I can muster an ounce of your grit at 35 that you had at 22.
While I like the philosophy that only the victim and family victim can truly the one that forgave the sinner, it have a bad consequence of victim family be the burden of the sinner fate, and at worst they would be harass by bad actors to forgave the sinner.
@@jesperomsf816 it's not really going to be proper boxing at his age, not competitively at least, just allows him to make use of the infrastructure etc. Honestly though as I say I feel like the only people who have any real right to have a say is the family.
@@ZenizhivGreen They have to forgive them, Forgive thy neighbor the hurt that he hath done unto thee, so shall thy sins also be forgiven when thou prayest.
I remember this fight like it was last week!! I will never forget the progression of bruises that kid was getting ... my dad was screaming at the TV for the ref to stop the fight.
I feel he's genuinely remorseful and he's clearly passionate about the sweet science, but yeah once you've made a gross mockery of the sport like that it's even more a mockery to let that person back in as if it were just a "time out". Actions lead to consequences and really should reinforce the message to present and future boxers to not EVER fuck around like he did.
I think it is fair to ban him from fighting but not from coaching, he learned his lesson, and should be allowed to have a second chance, he is not likely to encourage a boxer under him to cheat ever because he lived through the pain he caused to others and how it led to someone's death. I think he was a kid mislead by a scummy coach who took him down a bad road, I think that if he had the right coach he'd have made a fantastic boxer, and I think he can make a good trainer
He is not remorseful, he only confessed after going totally broke, that too 10 years later. And he also tried to frame the trainer. Looks like at the start they had some deal, but after all these years trainer cheated on him too. So confession was his last attempt to threaten the trainer.
Collins had a lot of talent and even more heart. As a fellow Nueyorican I will always be ashamed of Resto and any fighter who cheats inside the ring. Anyone remember Margherito vs Cotto1? Same BS...
@@californium-2526 Margherito wrapped his hands in plaster of Paris. The similarities between the two fights are frightening. The only exception being Cotto did not die. He actually won titles in several weight classes. And in a later rematch with Margherito, Cotton dominated and won.
@@californium-2526 Truth be told, despite his success following his initial fight w/ Margherito, Cotto was never the same spry boxer he once was. He'd only show flashes of his old self.
Thank you for not whining, with watery eyes, about how he deserves to get back in. Your reaction showing you understand the gravity of the situation is very refreshing. Not very common now days.
If you watch the actual "Assault in the ring" documentary, I think it's pretty safe to say that Resto is in jail. Not in any prison but he's been a broken man living in just enough of a room to stay alive ever since the incident. In some way, being stuck in a tiny room next to the gym and seeing other people box is probably worse for him than just being in a prison cell.
Tell that to Collin’s family, especially his father who had to watch his boy get beaten half to death ringside. Or his ex who was physically abused by him after he turned to alcohol to numb whatever psychological damage that was done to him that fight.
@@jonathanm3446 Tell them what? That he is suffering and his life is ruined? Should sound great for them, given they already declined his apologies multiple times. - Understandably. But I don't think having him in prison would give them any more satisfaction...
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Qxir is using a style of humor where you put yourself down in order to make another situation seem a little better. Rodney Dangerfield was a master at doing that.
Sadly it is believed that Billy could have boxed again, but his father wouldn’t allow him as he was trying to sue anyone and everyone and if Billy boxed again that would hurt their suit
@@bkak2245 From a torn iris? Singular? Permanent blurry vision in *one eye*, yeah. I mean... that's shitty and maybe going to hurt your performance as a boxer, but it's not going to end your boxing career unless you let it. Which, to be fair, Billy might have. Going damn near blind in one eye would fuck me up too.
@@rushi5638 to be fair it probably wouldn’t stop a career. Joe Frazier basically only had one eye and couldn’t jab properly on account of his messed up elbow
@@rushi5638 Are you serious? Whens the last time you saw a 1 eyed boxer? Only 1 eye pretty much flushes depth perception down the toilet which is critical in boxing. Not to mention the TBI, that shit is cumulative, he received about 5 careers worth in that 1 fight.
Christ. I'm just glad he was caught finally, from what you said it sounds as if he'd been doing it for some time. Thanks for another awesome video, my Irish brother
I watched this video, then cried for Billy Collins Jr when it was over. I am a Puerto Rican whose also from the Bronx, NY. I too boxed as a youngster but never got past the Golden Gloves level, which for me, was an achievement. However, this is why it breaks my heart even more... To know that one of my countrymen, with more talent than me, chose to cheat rather than train harder. And, how this shortcut cost another man his career and subsequently, his life. Still, I have to acknowledge that Resto was just a kid at the time and kids simply do stupid things! And, even further to that, I don't believe that Resto is the same man today that he was when he fought Billy Collins. None of us are the same person we were when in our 20's. I agree that he should be given a second chance, but he should definitely stay away from boxing. For me it is simple, Billy Collins Jr can't go back into boxing, so why should Resto be allowed? Resto should concede this on his own and step away respectfully.
I feel conflicted about Resto ... He was taken advantage of by his Manager and thus was somewhat of a victim himself. On the other hand he is a grown man and could have refused to participate in this BS, so for him to partake in cheating he must've had a questionable personality to begin with. I have no doubt he's remorseful, and the cheating was probably not his own idea, but it was his choice to go through with it, and he should not step a foot in the ring ever again. He jeopardized the Sport, and him becoming a Boxer again after ruining another Boxer's career would jeopardize Collins.
The biggest reason for me that he doesn't deserve a second chance is that for 40 minutes he watched as he turned a man's face to hamburger and was ok with it. At any time he could have said to himself, this is too much.
Nope, he shouldn't be allowed near a ring in ANY capacity. Cheating in competition, especially in ways as blatant as this, should mean a total ban from anything related, including training.
Resto was happy to take the belt,the money, the accolades and have his reputation intact. His only regret was being caught. . His manager should have faced attempted murder charges, he knew full well what damage would result from the plastered hand wraps and along with those gloves were nothing short of a weapon.
7:20 exactly. He didn't just cheat, he tampered with safety equipment. It's fair to say that letting him handle safety equipment again is a bad idea. Beyond that, I think a second chance, in a form without such opportunity, is entirely fair.
I think it's important to set a precedent that when you put your opponent in danger to gain an advantage that you will never play in your sport ever again. It has nothing to do with if they will re-offend, but to keep others from thinking about doing it.
I had no clue he was 22... he was my age. So young, poor kid... he had so much potential and these awful "men" took everything from him. They took this young man's life. Resto deserves life. Not 2 and a half years of incarceration. He killed a man.
Please do a video like this on Prichard Colón. The person he was fighting had cheated to the point where Prichard had gone into a vegetative state hours after the match. More coverage on this topic could help bring him justice!
At first i was screaming to give him a second chance, but your remark on having watched the whole fight with prior knowledge on what was going on and how it left a mark on you changed my mind. I also want to add: Everyone should be given a chance to show remorse and defeat the demons of your past. Judging his old trainers lifestyle he did the opposite, which really sucks...
As my dad said, "The only square thing in boxing is the ring!"And he would have known, as he was a golden gloves in New Jersey and in the US Navy back in the 1930s and 40s, at a time when a 10 round fight was just getting warmed up, and it wasn't a sport, but a means to keep your 8 head Irish family fed and clothed.It is a brutally corrupt sport now as it was back then.
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I feel like he should get another chance, but his coach should have been given a lot more of a harsher punishment. Too often there are cases of the employee taking the fall, while the boss working sidelines weasels out with a slap on the wrist.
He wasn't convicted for murder because he didn't commit murder. He committed assault and was convicted for it. A lifelong ban seems fair enough, though.
Collins tenacity and determination are certainly very admirable, but they cost him his vision, career and eventually his life. I had laser eye surgery and losing vision for a minute was terrifying, imagining it being permanent in one eye is mortifying. He really should have given up even if no one else noticed it. Sometimes the fight just isn't worth it. I realize in the heat of the moment it is hard to gauge just how badly you're hurt thanks to adrenaline, but we must keep experiences like this in mind to protect ourselves in the future.
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Man, I used to be a boxer, still do some every now and then. I'm very passionate about this sport... I don't know much what to say, this story gets me a bit teary eyed and gives me a heavy heart. The thought of Billy's career being ruined because of the cheating, and it is clear he was passionate about it, because it ruined his life. I imagine the boy's only dream was to live his life boxing. But at the same time, it's also clear that Luis is also very passionate about it. He had his passion taken away from him, he was never able to go back to what he loved doing because his coach wanted to cheat. In the end he is a victim too. I'm very passionate about boxing too, I can understand how painful it is for them. I get very sad every now and then knowing that some stuff that happend in my life made it so I didn't follow my path into professional boxing, but I still know I always have the option to go back, to go pro again, even if life makes it hard. These men had it taken away from them, they never could. If something took away from me the possibility of fighting forever, I guess it would also ruin my life. I feel very sad for them both.
After watching video, and dozens other videos of fights gone awry, you should know now that a career in professional boxing isn't all glory and fair chances. Your life is probably pretty good, compared to be a punching bag for other people's Saturday night amusement.
@@ricky-sanchez I know it isn't glory. I never wanted to do it for any glory. It was more a question of love for the sport, I loved doing that and the idea of doing something I loved professionally just seemed great. I guess this is what makes this stuff even more sad, whenever someone loses the chance to do it, it's not that these people lose the chance to win, is that they can't do what they love.
What these men done is absolutely vile and the justice that came satisfied me very much, but what’s the point if you don’t allow people to progress. Everyone’s done stupid things at a young age and I doubt he would be thinking of the possibility of this outcome at that young age with star stricken eyes.
holy sheet!! he had his hands wrapped in plaster!! that is a cold piece of work. 1 oz of padding removed is bad enough but wrapping your hands in plaster is like having a hammer in both hands!!
The fact that he applied again and again after essentially killing some one kind of shows that he is just a bit full of shit when it comes "paying his dues" He ruined some ones life, your life should be in a perpetual state of giving back not trying to "move past it"
Feel bad for Resto, as he was most likely being used by Panama to win on large bets. But he was still complicit and deserved everything that came at him.
man every time i see someone talk about this fight it just makes me feel like shit. one thing that did come from it was a change in a lot of rules to help catch cheaters before they stepped in the ring
Food for thought: It is good that they never let him fight again. But I think there is a place for him outside of the ring but within the sport for 2 reasons. 1) Second chances can really give a person a new life if they use it well. 2) By being visible in the sport, with his story being known, he becomes something of a warning, a warning that won't be nearly as loud from any other place. A little anecdote: I have a friend, have known him since the early 90s (I was born in 80, he is a year or two younger than me). He ended up going to jail in his 20s on a felony assault (regular, punch & kick style assault, not that other kind). I forget how many years he was locked up for, it was like 3 or 4 years or so. But he used his time while incarcerated to do a complete 180 from the trajectory he had been on. When he got out, he made the most of it and essentially started a completely new version of his life. Someone who also knew him (the brother of the woman who had his kid before he was locked up, and also a friend of mine since middle school) said straight up that he turned into 'dad of the year'. 2 or 3 years ago, he got his felony record expunged due to remaining on the good side of the law. So he is no longer in that former felon category that a lot of people never get out of. Has a house in a nice place in the next town over (which is a mostly forested town, really nice area), a family, a nice life. Nothing fancy, but a good life. Second chances can be an amazing thing to people who realize how special they really are and make the most of them. edit: One last thing: Everytime someone who has f**ked up bad sees someone who has made the best of a second chance, they are shown an example of what they could be, what they can strive for. An example to be followed.
The fact that he cheated and went along with it because his trainer wanted it so means that he should not be allowed to second chance in any type of sport it doesn't care if you admit you were wrong after the fact you still did wrong and you should face punishment like any other person
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When you said "As an Irishman, I have a tiny wee bit", I thought you were about to lie.
Cheers big guy. Fantastic video. sad subject matter though
"I have a tiny wee"
Oklahoma bombing video when
I'll allow it remind me of celebrity Deathmatch
Good thing his dad got his hands on those gloves. If Luis would've just celebrated in his own corner no one would've been the wiser.
Yeah, I'm sure he could sense something was different, probably watched his son in the ring often and didn't see even the worst pounding rip his face up like that.
This is pure speculation, but perhaps Luis went in for the hug out of guilt.
True dat.
@@blood_golemm5066 It's his way of thanking the boy for making him so rich - it's a shame the little rican never got his money. 🤷♂️
It's amazing the seconds do not routinely inspect the gloves, and wraps, and watch them applied before the match. I remember they filmed it with Margarito after the Coto fight where his wraps were found to have plaster in them, but its technically not a requirement like the weigh-in.
Collins was the real winner of the fight, to continuously take punches from plaster filled gloves and still be standing is amazing. He took all that without knowing, so sad it ruined his career. RIP.🌟
He’s still undefeated and will be forever
@@microwave4928 nah he ded
@@user-tr2dh4xx6u did he lose tho? Checkmated
@@HaXD1209 he ded so it doesnt matter
Idk how he wouldn't know after the first punch. He knows what a hand in a boxing glove feels like and it was all hard then you'd feel the difference right away. I have experience from my local mma gym I go to and it's hard to imagine that I wouldn't notice that.
I knew about this fight, and the development was quite obvious, the fact the referee didn't suspect anything is one of the worst things about it, around round 4 he should've noticed the injuries were not normal.
Yeah, I was also wondering why the other boxer didn't say something or even drop out. Even though resto cheated, the other guy kinda let it happen.
Ya I noticed the lack of judgment by the ref as well.
@@Tracert-mc1hu I think there's another similar incident where the actual boxer said the other guy's gloves were rigged but the referee didn't do shit afaik.
Don't discount the possibility of the ref being bent, they did say that there were large stake bets in play.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS That’s exactly what I thought as well. Certainly wouldn’t be the first time a ref is paid off to rig a fight and it wouldn’t be the last. The constant corruption in boxing really sickens me, that and the flagrant incompetence in every level.
His immediate panic reaction and attempt to flee when his gloves were grabbed says everything.
That lose literally brought Collins down. Really fucking sad he was suppose to become a good contender.
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Dude was never interested in a fair fight, and for that reason alone he shouldn't be allowed to set foot in an arena again. How he went about I is next level heinous. Christ.
Don’t blaspheme
I agree, but you should also recognize his realization that what he did was wrong. At the very least he could admit that much.
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 After denying it for years.
People make mistakes and what’s the point if we don’t let people progress in life. In no way am I defending his actions, they were vile and cost a poor man his life but not allowing people to get better and prove themselves takes us nowhere.
@@DiligentX I agree and he shouldn’t be condemned forever people deserve 2nd chances. But it’s not like he got caught doping he got caught knowingly fucking up someone else’s face and knowingly potentially causing permanent damage and did it for 40 minutes straight. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be forgiven but he shouldn’t participate in the sport ever again
"as an Irishman, I have a tiny wee bit..."
As another Irishman, I'm thankful this sentence proceeded differently than I feared up until that moment.
"A tiny wee PINCH"
BRUH, it could have been even worse
Not how quotes work.
Nah, lad. The redshanks figured out that they could wear pants under their kilts. Generational shrinkage is no longer a worry.
@@mattmarzula Yeah sure.
Came here to see if anyone else found qxir's comment a little fishy...
You can tell Billy Sr was highly suspicious after seeing the damage to his son. 3:40 He held onto that glove, felt around. He is already looking down at the gloves as he approaches for the handshake. His intentions are a handshake masquerading as an inspection and his suspicions were quickly confirmed.
That is a good father. Looking after his boy.
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You mean an inspection masquerading as a handshake, right? Otherwise great point, completely agree
Yes, and further confirmed to everyone who saw the opponent's face and him immediately trying to pull away before realizing he'd better play it cool
@@stephentroyer3831 ya how is he going to try and deny any involvement after trying to pull his glove back like that. Quite obviously didn’t want to get caught.
He should get a second chance as soon as billy collins gets his second chance.
Sounds fair. So never.
Everyone deserves a shot at redemption, he can’t control the downfall of Collins, even though he helped trigger it
@@el1tefire252 He was given a career-ending injury. He wouldn't have gotten a second chance at boxing even if he didn't spiral.
@@MyDogKillsPeople I know he wouldn’t have gotten another chance to box, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that he should get a chance at redemption even though Collins won’t be able to. He already served time, he shouldn’t suffer for that his entire life
@@el1tefire252 Agreed, he can redeem himself. He just has to fight Deontay Wilder. Wilder gets to use the same gloves Resto used in the Collins fight. If he still wants to box after that, he can.
I think anyone that cheats should be banned for life, especially when they're criminally convicted.
@RigItRay I disagree, I think people should get a second chance at it, but their chance should be long after their cheating incident took place.
@@jacksticka842 nope not like this this is assault and killing someone if he was just taking steroids yeah let him back but this killed a young man
Banned from attendance at all events, banned from boxing gyms, banned from training, banned from the sport period.
It's just a sport. A competition. There is no logic in granting second chances to that fact. Sure, second chance at making a living and a life, but hell no to playing a sport.
This is one of those cases where punishment actually could be a deterrent. Generally jail time doesn't deter other criminals, but seeing another boxer banned for life for cheating gives other boxers a reason to think twice before also cheating.
If he’s really sorry he wouldn’t want back in the ring. Another athlete was better than him and he had his life destroyed for it. The man destroyed his face for 40 minutes straight knowing full well what damage he was doing. I’m not saying he should be locked up forever but he should never step into the ring again
Yeah idk man the love of money is the root of all evil. He let greed get the best of him, I have ZERO sympathy for people who put their success above human life though.
He was young and he was definitely influenced by Panama, who basically was the person with most authority and power over him and his life, he probably didn't give it much thought since no one had really gotten that hurt before, he probably thought I'd let him get that extra edge to win by points, but Collins got really hurt and had his career ended and he eventually commited suicide.
We all like to criticize what he did but we all have done something that has hurt someone knowing full well it would hurt them, we ourselves are not without fault, but if we cannot forgive him and give him a second chance to prove he has changed then how can we call ourselves, virtuous or good, and even more so how can we ask to be forgiven if we do not forgive?
@@CAsnowman its wasnt greed witwas a seniority over junior complex
@@ImmortalDaevon What with this line of thought? I have more likes so my opinion is better then yours? Are you 10?
By the same logic, your video that have no likes and only dislikes, is the worst garbage on youtube.
@@ilo3456 exactly like that. Nobody owes you forgiveness, you don't owe forgiveness to anybody.
Panama was making a killing to afford that kind of housing. He must have had a very happy loan shark with the inside scoop. Possibly millions in winnings.
Good pun
Like all 'winners' he'll lose someday. I just hope it's in the same capacity as the lives he made worse and ruined along the way.
Panama has a long history of high profile shadiness in the boxing world. Check out the black bottle incident.
You don't say.. I know a beautiful art director who makes lots of money from doing advertising for tobaco companies
You have to murder people to get money. Get used to the idea.
Punching other dudes in the head for money is murder. Paying to watch dudes punching each other in the head is murder.
@@criztu There is some truth to what you’re saying but in boxing there’s the idea of a “fair fight”. Now of course it’s usually not fair, but there are weight classes and rules. Panama introduced weapons.
Damn, by modifying his gloves like that the damage he’s giving is boosted like 5 times.
TAMPERED GLOVES PERK: +5 damage in hand to hand combat
@@finonevado8891 5x damage in H2H.
@@finonevado8891 disadvantage: you must be incognito to avoid suspision, and must not draw attention.
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@ricky sanchez only 19.99 for a 3% chance of winning them
Collin not losing determination is so inspiring and heartbreaking.
It’s also kind of infuriating. As an experienced boxer you would definitely know the difference between being punched by padding vs a fucking rock. He probably had too much pride to call him out for cheating during the fight. That shouldn’t be inspiring. It was stupid and it ruined his career AND his life.
@@waltz9230speculation. I don’t think he knew
Reminds me of that Simpson episode where moe has barbed wire in his gloves and calls it "the stinger"
"Moe, when you said you had a 'secret weapon' to help us win I thought you meant it as a figure of speech".
"They don't let you use that no more"
@@andrelunaisatuna Lol
@@andrelunaisatuna beat me too it sir
wat is your profile picture
The hardest part of watching their fight is how hard Collins fought, even midway through the fight when his injuries were really starting to get the best of him he kept coming out his corner strong. Boy was a warrior
It's good to see that Billy will forever be revered as a legend and a champion. Shame on the cheaters.
Ok cool
@@rereleases ??
don’t worry, +rerelease is just some hoo-er
@@Thrownblock oh ok
@@Thrownblock nigga tf
People can change and improve. But he doesn’t belong back in the ring. There’s a difference between killing someone by cheating and cheating to get an extra point in a video game. It’s not the same.
he didnt kill him but he did ruin his life
@@onemansvoice9132
I personally think that is worse.
@@samuraijackoff5354 it is
Found the guy who cheats at video gaming lol
My sister called this fight in the first round, that dirty bastard soaked his hands, she yelled, the whole fight she was screaming check his gloves
your sister should be playin with dolls wtf man
@@criztu
The only dolls are the hearts and will of man
@@criztu fu. You ever meet a female boxer? I was friends with one. Gorgeous and tough
@@criztu Nothing wrong with it though
@@criztu His sister could probably kick your ass from one corner of the ring to the other three.
The fact he was taking those Brick punches to the face the whole round shows how strong he was imagine if he never died what amazing things he could done what a legend may he live on ❤️
I feel that he’s a legend for taking all of that
You have to admit that a man any less of heart would have fallen after 3 rounds.
"Padding was removed from the glove" hey that doesn't make you punch hard "and his wraps were soaked with plaster of Paris " oh, okay then.
They must have known with the plaster and padding, the gloves would look bigger so they must have practiced this cheat before hand.
the padding on the gloves is more for the person getting punched than the guy punching its to protect the face. back in the days of bareknuckle boxing it wasn't uncommon for a boxer to get his eye punched out of his head.
@@MrSporkdude The padding protects your hand a lot. Bare knuckle causes more cutting and superficial damage but most of the serious long-term damage from boxing is internal brain injuries. Mike Tyson famously broke his hand when he got into a street fight with another boxer. The gloves are more for the audience than for the boxers.
Panama removed the padding from the knuckle region of the gloves.
@@jwilliams703 did you even watch the video?
The referee was clearly A)too stupid to see what was going on or B)knew full well what was going on. Either way, it should have cost him his career.
I think that Billy's family should be the ones to decide if Luis can box again, if they truly think he is remorseful and has paid his dues then it'd be ok in my book. But then again I am just a yt commenter, so I am the lowest of the low.
RIP Billy, we have the same first name and I hope that I can muster an ounce of your grit at 35 that you had at 22.
While I like the philosophy that only the victim and family victim can truly the one that forgave the sinner, it have a bad consequence of victim family be the burden of the sinner fate, and at worst they would be harass by bad actors to forgave the sinner.
@@ZenizhivGreen I have literally no idea what that was supposed to mean sorry dude.
@@jesperomsf816 it's not really going to be proper boxing at his age, not competitively at least, just allows him to make use of the infrastructure etc.
Honestly though as I say I feel like the only people who have any real right to have a say is the family.
@@ZenizhivGreen They have to forgive them, Forgive thy neighbor the hurt that he hath done unto thee, so shall thy sins also be forgiven when thou prayest.
Not good at math either. The guy's 66 years old.
I remember this fight like it was last week!! I will never forget the progression of bruises that kid was getting ... my dad was screaming at the TV for the ref to stop the fight.
I feel he's genuinely remorseful and he's clearly passionate about the sweet science, but yeah once you've made a gross mockery of the sport like that it's even more a mockery to let that person back in as if it were just a "time out". Actions lead to consequences and really should reinforce the message to present and future boxers to not EVER fuck around like he did.
I think it is fair to ban him from fighting but not from coaching, he learned his lesson, and should be allowed to have a second chance, he is not likely to encourage a boxer under him to cheat ever because he lived through the pain he caused to others and how it led to someone's death.
I think he was a kid mislead by a scummy coach who took him down a bad road, I think that if he had the right coach he'd have made a fantastic boxer, and I think he can make a good trainer
That seemed needlessly hostile.
He is not remorseful, he only confessed after going totally broke, that too 10 years later. And he also tried to frame the trainer. Looks like at the start they had some deal, but after all these years trainer cheated on him too. So confession was his last attempt to threaten the trainer.
@@ilo3456 he's likely gonna tamper with their gloves
It’s not about the sport. It’s about him beating a man to near death and basically blinding him with fists covered in essentially concrete.
Collins will forever be a legend for going the full length of a fight against an opponent who was basically wearing gauntlets.
Never trust a guy with a rat-tail. EVER. Trust me on this one
Do you have a rats tail?
@@change_your_oil_regularly4287 ...maybe -_-
@@swettyspaghtti how can I know if to trust you on this or not if you don't tell me if you have a rats tail?
Anikan had a rat tail. This checks out.
Can confirm.
Collins had a lot of talent and even more heart. As a fellow Nueyorican I will always be ashamed of Resto and any fighter who cheats inside the ring. Anyone remember Margherito vs Cotto1? Same BS...
What happened...?
@@californium-2526 Margherito wrapped his hands in plaster of Paris. The similarities between the two fights are frightening. The only exception being Cotto did not die. He actually won titles in several weight classes. And in a later rematch with Margherito, Cotton dominated and won.
@@ZENN-LA74 Phew. No horrible ending.
@@californium-2526 Truth be told, despite his success following his initial fight w/ Margherito, Cotto was never the same spry boxer he once was. He'd only show flashes of his old self.
What's nueyorican? Someone from south america living in NY?
Thank you for not whining, with watery eyes, about how he deserves to get back in. Your reaction showing you understand the gravity of the situation is very refreshing. Not very common now days.
If you watch the actual "Assault in the ring" documentary, I think it's pretty safe to say that Resto is in jail. Not in any prison but he's been a broken man living in just enough of a room to stay alive ever since the incident. In some way, being stuck in a tiny room next to the gym and seeing other people box is probably worse for him than just being in a prison cell.
Tell that to Collin’s family, especially his father who had to watch his boy get beaten half to death ringside. Or his ex who was physically abused by him after he turned to alcohol to numb whatever psychological damage that was done to him that fight.
@@jonathanm3446 Tell them what? That he is suffering and his life is ruined? Should sound great for them, given they already declined his apologies multiple times. - Understandably. But I don't think having him in prison would give them any more satisfaction...
@@jonathanm3446 he was died of DUI no excuse hes lucky he didn't kill anyone else
@@donnagant6575 that doesn't make him lucky, he still died.
@@knightwolf5006 lucky he didn't take anyone with him
You think too little of yourself, I look forward to hearing your voice and listening to the stories your brain puts together. I am not alone, I am certain almost all of us subscribers admire you!
Qxir is using a style of humor where you put yourself down in order to make another situation seem a little better. Rodney Dangerfield was a master at doing that.
@@ricky-sanchez self depreciating humour
@@Cenentury0941 deprecating*
Just from the name of the title, I guessed it was this infamous fight. RIP Billy Collins.
I was certain it was this one, too. RIP Billy Collins, Jr. You didn't deserve what happened to you.
I remember watching the original footage on Reddit a while ago, I'm glad this dude got convicted
Got 2 and a half years for attempted murder.
Sadly it is believed that Billy could have boxed again, but his father wouldn’t allow him as he was trying to sue anyone and everyone and if Billy boxed again that would hurt their suit
Didn’t collin suffered a permanent blurry vision
@@bkak2245 From a torn iris? Singular? Permanent blurry vision in *one eye*, yeah. I mean... that's shitty and maybe going to hurt your performance as a boxer, but it's not going to end your boxing career unless you let it. Which, to be fair, Billy might have. Going damn near blind in one eye would fuck me up too.
@@rushi5638 to be fair it probably wouldn’t stop a career. Joe Frazier basically only had one eye and couldn’t jab properly on account of his messed up elbow
@@rushi5638 Are you serious? Whens the last time you saw a 1 eyed boxer? Only 1 eye pretty much flushes depth perception down the toilet which is critical in boxing. Not to mention the TBI, that shit is cumulative, he received about 5 careers worth in that 1 fight.
I'm going to have to agree with our humble narrator: that boxer shouldn't be let back in the ring. He was punished for a reason.
Notice how senior went straight for the gloves. You cant fool a seasoned vet. I dont know how he didnt deck him right there.
I couldn't agree with you more! Cheating like that is dirty and disgusting and I feel so heartbroken for that poor Boy's family
Christ. I'm just glad he was caught finally, from what you said it sounds as if he'd been doing it for some time. Thanks for another awesome video, my Irish brother
I watched this video, then cried for Billy Collins Jr when it was over. I am a Puerto Rican whose also from the Bronx, NY. I too boxed as a youngster but never got past the Golden Gloves level, which for me, was an achievement. However, this is why it breaks my heart even more... To know that one of my countrymen, with more talent than me, chose to cheat rather than train harder. And, how this shortcut cost another man his career and subsequently, his life. Still, I have to acknowledge that Resto was just a kid at the time and kids simply do stupid things! And, even further to that, I don't believe that Resto is the same man today that he was when he fought Billy Collins. None of us are the same person we were when in our 20's. I agree that he should be given a second chance, but he should definitely stay away from boxing. For me it is simple, Billy Collins Jr can't go back into boxing, so why should Resto be allowed? Resto should concede this on his own and step away respectfully.
i boxed 2, stay strong brother
I feel conflicted about Resto ... He was taken advantage of by his Manager and thus was somewhat of a victim himself.
On the other hand he is a grown man and could have refused to participate in this BS, so for him to partake in cheating he must've had a questionable personality to begin with.
I have no doubt he's remorseful, and the cheating was probably not his own idea, but it was his choice to go through with it, and he should not step a foot in the ring ever again.
He jeopardized the Sport, and him becoming a Boxer again after ruining another Boxer's career would jeopardize Collins.
*No way in hell* you let that guy back in the ring. Ever.
1:57 I always like your art style anyway but the two boxers being depicted without arms just tickled my fancy
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and just like that my day got better.
Did you watch the video yet?
@@mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 nope. Just the notification is enough.
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The biggest reason for me that he doesn't deserve a second chance is that for 40 minutes he watched as he turned a man's face to hamburger and was ok with it. At any time he could have said to himself, this is too much.
Nope, he shouldn't be allowed near a ring in ANY capacity. Cheating in competition, especially in ways as blatant as this, should mean a total ban from anything related, including training.
Resto was happy to take the belt,the money, the accolades and have his reputation intact.
His only regret was being caught. .
His manager should have faced attempted murder charges, he knew full well what damage would result from the plastered hand wraps and along with those gloves were nothing short of a weapon.
I really don't think he should be back in the ring in any capacity at all. He knowingly put that other guy thru 40 minutes of torture.
7:20 exactly. He didn't just cheat, he tampered with safety equipment. It's fair to say that letting him handle safety equipment again is a bad idea. Beyond that, I think a second chance, in a form without such opportunity, is entirely fair.
I think it's important to set a precedent that when you put your opponent in danger to gain an advantage that you will never play in your sport ever again. It has nothing to do with if they will re-offend, but to keep others from thinking about doing it.
You just gotta love the way this man tells a story.
I had no clue he was 22... he was my age. So young, poor kid... he had so much potential and these awful "men" took everything from him. They took this young man's life.
Resto deserves life. Not 2 and a half years of incarceration. He killed a man.
Please do a video like this on Prichard Colón. The person he was fighting had cheated to the point where Prichard had gone into a vegetative state hours after the match. More coverage on this topic could help bring him justice!
At first i was screaming to give him a second chance, but your remark on having watched the whole fight with prior knowledge on what was going on and how it left a mark on you changed my mind.
I also want to add:
Everyone should be given a chance to show remorse and defeat the demons of your past. Judging his old trainers lifestyle he did the opposite, which really sucks...
As my dad said, "The only square thing in boxing is the ring!"And he would have known, as he was a golden gloves in New Jersey and in the US Navy back in the 1930s and 40s, at a time when a 10 round fight was just getting warmed up, and it wasn't a sport, but a means to keep your 8 head Irish family fed and clothed.It is a brutally corrupt sport now as it was back then.
& as usual the higher up the totem pole the fresher the air.
Cead Mile Failte from sunny Florida! Just wanted to say, I love the cartoon animations and added sound effects. I'm constantly in stitches watching your channel. I love what you do bud, keep it up!
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Cead, it's Cead Mile Failte ;-)
@@ottodidakt3069 Holy crap! I didn't even realize my autocorrect got me there! Thanks for pointing that out. Editing it now.
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I love the way you tell a story.
Poor Billy.
I feel like he should get another chance, but his coach should have been given a lot more of a harsher punishment. Too often there are cases of the employee taking the fall, while the boss working sidelines weasels out with a slap on the wrist.
I always let your videos to accumulate and then whenever I have a bad moment or shitty day I get caught up. It’s the best thing.
He wasn't convicted for murder because he didn't commit murder. He committed assault and was convicted for it. A lifelong ban seems fair enough, though.
I'm sure if he had of killed him in the ring he would be charged with murder because of the plaster
Great job presenting this heartbreaking story.
"As an Irishman I have a tiny wee" - Quix 2021
Another one for the out of context soundboard.
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Incredible storytelling as always! I always look forward to your videos.
Collins tenacity and determination are certainly very admirable, but they cost him his vision, career and eventually his life. I had laser eye surgery and losing vision for a minute was terrifying, imagining it being permanent in one eye is mortifying. He really should have given up even if no one else noticed it. Sometimes the fight just isn't worth it. I realize in the heat of the moment it is hard to gauge just how badly you're hurt thanks to adrenaline, but we must keep experiences like this in mind to protect ourselves in the future.
you have a great way of making me laugh with the personal tidbits you add, sometimes I watch your vids to hear a great accent and get a knee slapping chuckle
Man, I used to be a boxer, still do some every now and then. I'm very passionate about this sport... I don't know much what to say, this story gets me a bit teary eyed and gives me a heavy heart. The thought of Billy's career being ruined because of the cheating, and it is clear he was passionate about it, because it ruined his life. I imagine the boy's only dream was to live his life boxing.
But at the same time, it's also clear that Luis is also very passionate about it. He had his passion taken away from him, he was never able to go back to what he loved doing because his coach wanted to cheat. In the end he is a victim too.
I'm very passionate about boxing too, I can understand how painful it is for them. I get very sad every now and then knowing that some stuff that happend in my life made it so I didn't follow my path into professional boxing, but I still know I always have the option to go back, to go pro again, even if life makes it hard. These men had it taken away from them, they never could. If something took away from me the possibility of fighting forever, I guess it would also ruin my life. I feel very sad for them both.
After watching video, and dozens other videos of fights gone awry, you should know now that a career in professional boxing isn't all glory and fair chances. Your life is probably pretty good, compared to be a punching bag for other people's Saturday night amusement.
@@ricky-sanchez I know it isn't glory. I never wanted to do it for any glory. It was more a question of love for the sport, I loved doing that and the idea of doing something I loved professionally just seemed great. I guess this is what makes this stuff even more sad, whenever someone loses the chance to do it, it's not that these people lose the chance to win, is that they can't do what they love.
Heard this story 100x and honestly your video on this is one of the better ones
I wonder if Billy Collins knew something was up and decided to win in spite of the cheating, but ultimately didn't manage it. 😣
I agree completely with what you said at the end of video. Don't let him back in or near the ring.
What these men done is absolutely vile and the justice that came satisfied me very much, but what’s the point if you don’t allow people to progress.
Everyone’s done stupid things at a young age and I doubt he would be thinking of the possibility of this outcome at that young age with star stricken eyes.
Great story, with a sad outcome. You’re awesome man.
I remember this. That was a brutal fight. I'm surprised Collins went the distance.
Your content has improved so much, keep at it!
holy sheet!! he had his hands wrapped in plaster!! that is a cold piece of work. 1 oz of padding removed is bad enough but wrapping your hands in plaster is like having a hammer in both hands!!
I remember this well, it still gives me such a sickening feeling.
Shocking that they didn’t check these sorts of things
I think nowadays the gloves are provided by the venue to avoid these kind of things.
Most people are naive and don't possess enough cynicism. It's always after the fact.
As the saying goes “rules/regulations are written in blood”
The fact that he applied again and again after essentially killing some one kind of shows that he is just a bit full of shit when it comes "paying his dues"
He ruined some ones life, your life should be in a perpetual state of giving back not trying to "move past it"
Feel bad for Resto, as he was most likely being used by Panama to win on large bets. But he was still complicit and deserved everything that came at him.
yeah, still let his hands get dipped in plaster
Been here since you dropped the olympics video. Best channel on UA-cam
man every time i see someone talk about this fight it just makes me feel like shit. one thing that did come from it was a change in a lot of rules to help catch cheaters before they stepped in the ring
I value your opinion and your absolutely right .
Food for thought: It is good that they never let him fight again. But I think there is a place for him outside of the ring but within the sport for 2 reasons. 1) Second chances can really give a person a new life if they use it well. 2) By being visible in the sport, with his story being known, he becomes something of a warning, a warning that won't be nearly as loud from any other place.
A little anecdote: I have a friend, have known him since the early 90s (I was born in 80, he is a year or two younger than me). He ended up going to jail in his 20s on a felony assault (regular, punch & kick style assault, not that other kind). I forget how many years he was locked up for, it was like 3 or 4 years or so. But he used his time while incarcerated to do a complete 180 from the trajectory he had been on. When he got out, he made the most of it and essentially started a completely new version of his life. Someone who also knew him (the brother of the woman who had his kid before he was locked up, and also a friend of mine since middle school) said straight up that he turned into 'dad of the year'. 2 or 3 years ago, he got his felony record expunged due to remaining on the good side of the law. So he is no longer in that former felon category that a lot of people never get out of. Has a house in a nice place in the next town over (which is a mostly forested town, really nice area), a family, a nice life. Nothing fancy, but a good life.
Second chances can be an amazing thing to people who realize how special they really are and make the most of them.
edit: One last thing: Everytime someone who has f**ked up bad sees someone who has made the best of a second chance, they are shown an example of what they could be, what they can strive for. An example to be followed.
I really enjoyed your summary. Eloquently put
No second chances for this guy. He ruined a man's life to the extent it led to his death. Any dues he thinks he's paid don't fit the crime.
Good on you for remembering these people and their stories
Wow not just fixed gloves but plaster wraps and asthma meds. That’s over the top. Cowardly moves, Rest In Peace Billy you fought a good fight. 💪
I agree with your assessment. Prison never erases the crime.
The fact that he cheated and went along with it because his trainer wanted it so means that he should not be allowed to second chance in any type of sport it doesn't care if you admit you were wrong after the fact you still did wrong and you should face punishment like any other person
agree with you mate, Lets hope they don"t let Resto anywhere near a ring again. The low life is just evil.
Damn ... This is just depressing
Beautifully put darken the ring with his presence. I agree count ur blessings and move on. Man your videos are great been a fan for some time now ur among a few golden channels in my book.
Love from Detroit
8:35 Even the hits sound harder. yeesh if honor was the only victory in everyone's minds... if only.
I think you're right. I love your channel. Keep up the good work pal!
1:25 "Obviously any decent professionally boxer is a very skilled individual in comparison with your average joe and I'm just a UA-camr so I'm even lower than that" You sneaky boi 😏😂😂😂
Makes me sad that you only upload weekly, id watch these everyday
I knew this story, it´s heartbreaking.
I saw this fight years ago and I had the same reaction watching with the knowledge of what was happening, made me literally feel sick
Fightin' Irish.
1000% heart...
Nicely put together video. Thanks
Bro I'm so strong that my hands are classed as deadly weapons 😎
O word?
@@deletdis6173 hell yeah 😎
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