He went through life playing games with people, trickery, false promises and deception, he was constantly playing with people and viewed most things as a game where the same rules apply to everyone, as he is about to hang, the woman rings the bell in a sort of glimmer of hope, they leave…this is life playing games with him, that is why he says “the same rules apply” because he is no exception to the rule and he understands this.. Awesome but dark ending, you get what you give...
honestly, i have read so many theories/ opinions on why he said "same rules apply" and this is actually the first one that makes complete sense to me. thank you
It's true he did all of those things but somehow you could tell there was decency left inside of him, buried under all the corruption and rottenness. That's the reason I still felt sorry for him throughout the film. Overall, I think the focus of this film is not just on a corrupt police officer who is struck by the lightning rod of karma but how society breeds degradation and immorality. The group of young thugs who beat the Korean student to death in the beginning... the teenage girl who was more than willing to give blow jobs and allow her body to be used as a sex toy.
***** no he wasn't. He didn't hear the phone go off as he was in the shower. When he was packing the care package for Blades, the answering machine was blinking and he ignored it.
"The truth is people are just as scared of the world as you. I'm scared of the world. I just don't let people see it, that's all." That line gets me everytime.
I remember seeing this ending in theatres and being in a bad mood for the rest of the day. It really took something out of me, I really don't know what it was. Still, brilliant film. Brilliant ending.
Ya man. I just saw it and it left me feeling a bit sour, too. Same for almost all of Irvine Welsh's stories. They don't suck. It's just not really optimistic.
+incarnateTheGreat I think it shows that sometimes life really do suck, and there's never a light at the end of the tunnel. and if there was a light, you will find nothing there. I think it also represent depression and how there's no such thing as a happy ending. That everything in life is a test of strength and strategies, to survive everyday. But in Ivan's book. It shows the people that loses at the end.
Man that ending, I was already expecting it since the beginning but seeing it happen. I really cried, you get to see what goodness was left in him and that little flicker get snuffed.
I'll be honest, I LOVED this movie! I was surprised by how trippy it was and for some reason characters with no redeeming qualities are very interesting to me. I was impressed with how they didn't just make a nasty SOB without any reasons behind his behavior, they actually delved deep into his insanity and examined it very closely. Also, James McAvoy was PHENOMENAL!
I think they accomplished making a movie that 'completely divides opinion' Yeah, he is a bad person, but you can't help but feel sorry for him in the end.
@Jerry He was a pretty bad person. Literally every last person on the planet has their reasons for how they act and a person's troubles is not reason or excuse to be terrible.
3:24-3:26 Excellent acting by McAvoy. Just by looking at his eyes, we could feel his sorrow and his lament for the possibility of a better life if he wasn't such a big fuck-up. There's even a little tear in there. But alas, we also see sadness and his acceptance of how he is, and that he'll never change, and that him killing himself is his ultimate fate.
@@naughtyskywalker9292 I politely disagree, impulses cause action without thought, whereas most thoughts are a moment of clarity at least between options.
@@cuac5869 Se destruyó él, alrededor todo quedó más o menos bien, él no. Y tenía a quién recurrir, lo que no tenía era la capacidad de hacerlo, o de querer cambiar.
Mcavoy is the kind of actor that in everything he is in,he is unforgetable. He manages to draw you in your feelings in every performance. In this role,he made a hot soup out of my feels and feelings and made me crawl in it. He is not just unforgetable. He engraved his way in my braincells.
the sad thing about this scene that the story and the character and the actor made me believe that this is the right and only decision that will set him free. stunning, overwhealming and makes me sick that i agree with the character.
That's the thing about movies like this. You know the movies doing something right when you start to sympathize with a violent, sexist, homophobic, racist sociopath.
I have to say always been a massive McAvoy fan but this movie has given me an all new respect for the actor. I as well as many others could see themselves in his character our own selfishness, insecurities & for some quests for self destruction. His performance alone made this film so great & its a frigging crime that this film isn't held in higher regard
Criminaly underrated. I keep revisiting this ending year after year and i get the same gut wrenching feeling every single time. as life happens all around (with?) you same rules seem to apply indeed
If you watch that last couple of seconds frame-by-frame, you'll see that he didn't actually kick the chair. It broke. He wasn't going to do it. Just thought you'd all want that little extra kick in the gut...
Left me in tears. I really felt it. It’s insane how the film manages to dive so deep into your emotions yet remains so cynical and sarcastic. The ending is state-of-art.
So, everyone will debate and ask the same question. Why Does Bruce kill himself. Bruce is scared of the world. He even admits it too himself. After he is reveled to be pretending to be his wife, his world becomes clearer. When his boss tells him he can't be inspector, his makes him feel like shit, he feels like everything he has done is his fault, because it is. Then, the person who he humiliated and made to look a creep, got his job. He also talks about "the games" and that "the same rules apply", these quotes finally come back and fuck him over. Bruce kills himself with the scarf the women gave him, who he likes. Literally the second he puts his foot on the top of the chair, she appears with her child at the door. It's too late, Bruce can't turn back.
Its a good thing, despite the fact the character opened up and we saw his human side, the fact that he died shows us how his actions were wrong, thats what this scene is about, he realises his problems and he loses the games, also why he says the line 'Same Rules Apply'
He didn't tie the rope properly to hang yourself. Either this is intentional or it's there so people don't actually know how to create a rope strong enough to commit suicide with. You're supposed to create the noose by coiling the upper/lower parts around each other, so it wraps tight enough to snap your neck/suffocate you afterwards. A simple knot like he died would probably buckle under his bodyweight
I teared up a lot at the end of this film. The last half hour is just so fucking painful to watch. He’s severely struggling yet it is so hard to feel bad for a man who did so much awful stuff. This film is a masterwork. It is a film that truly divided opinions and shocked everyone. Beautiful, shocking and fucking painful film.
if you're still on lockdown, please don't watch this. i know that everybody's having a hard time with rejection, unrequitted love, broken promises, things unsaid and undone...i want to tell you something: you are valid.
I put this movie on Netflix expecting another movie about a dirty cop. I was so blown away with how amazing and deep it actually was. Little did I know it was based on an Irvine Welsh novel. Welsh wanted to see if he could make readers feel sympathy and root for a completely irredeemable scumbag, and he absolutely nailed it. This final fuck you to the audience had me laughing. The scene where he breaks down and admits he thinks his family has left him hit me hard. This is hands down one of my favourite movies of all time. Same rules apply, my dear sweet friend. Same rules apply.
The ending line is because he's fucked with people his whole life and messed with their heads that now seeing either his wife and kid or the widow lady (can't remember name right now) and her son at the door is someone else fucking with him and so "the same rules apply" and he understands it's fake therefore carries through with his suicide.
Your comment brought a sad sigh to me just after reading it, but after reading your username and as a Celtic fan.. I still say your comment gave me a sad sigh, hope you are good mate and take care!
A lot of people miss the whole point of the ending and the credits song. Bruce was Bipolar at least, his moods were up and down, the ending of this movie (along with the depressing, though brilliant song) symbolises his depressive times and the credits song symbolises his happy times. Simple magnificent
This movie will forever be in my heart, mind, and soul, as it was the first time when my closest friend and I ever tried alcohol, thoughtfully brought by my older cousin.
Its not about him but about lennox; so during the story mentions bruce as his old friend... The book is "crime".... And in "glue" there's a small reference about a psico cop who's dead after killed ghostie, one of chatacters of "zero tollerance".... In filth is the guy who massacre bruce in the scene where u can understund bruce and the assassin as the same person
plok ijuh in the book he calls his wife to come visit and plans on jumping right as she walks in wearing a shirt he made that says 'you did this'. he hears the door opening and he jumps but his daughter walks in instead. then he dies. also, in the novel, he's actually the killer from the murder case, not just a witness.
it's how many people are feeling, things that happened in the past still effecting them...also how they are dvided between the good and the bad !! it's exactly how I feel :(
In the book the woman and the child open the door... Couse the woman was Carol then has the keys.... Read the book if u really wonna know how finish the story....
Its funny because in the beginning of the movie, when carol is talking, she/he says that she/he keeps her/his marriage alive and spicy because she is a tease. Now we see Robbo give us the little tease that he might just be saved.
The best movie I've seen in a long time, but oh my god it was so upsetting. The ending was like a big 'Fuck you!" to the audience. in those final moments I was almost sure he was going to have some sort of redemptive moment, it was all going to be okay for Bruce, he was going to get down, get the door, find love, but then; "Same rules apply." and I literally yelled.
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favorite fourth wall breaking.
It's funny how he similarly breaks a wall in film Wanted at the ending
How he never got nominated for any awards for this film is beyond me. He was class.
He got best actor in sure?
hes been nominated for a baffta for this role alongside jack oconnell for starred up
He should've gotten nominated instead of Christian Bale for doing a de Niro impression in American Hustle.
He won the BAFTA for Best Actor for this role.
@@sharonlefkowitz22 He didn't. Wasn't even nominated.
He went through life playing games with people, trickery, false promises and deception, he was constantly playing with people and viewed most things as a game where the same rules apply to everyone, as he is about to hang, the woman rings the bell in a sort of glimmer of hope, they leave…this is life playing games with him, that is why he says “the same rules apply” because he is no exception to the rule and he understands this..
Awesome but dark ending, you get what you give...
honestly, i have read so many theories/ opinions on why he said "same rules apply" and this is actually the first one that makes complete sense to me. thank you
Kevin S, you make perfect sense!
Thank God! An explanation that makes sense!
Thank u for elaborating on that, I can now hang myself in peace - Same rules apply.
It's true he did all of those things but somehow you could tell there was decency left inside of him, buried under all the corruption and rottenness. That's the reason I still felt sorry for him throughout the film. Overall, I think the focus of this film is not just on a corrupt police officer who is struck by the lightning rod of karma but how society breeds degradation and immorality. The group of young thugs who beat the Korean student to death in the beginning... the teenage girl who was more than willing to give blow jobs and allow her body to be used as a sex toy.
This is one of the best leading performances in film.
One of the saddest endings to a film I've ever seen
They really didn't give him much time to answer the door.
***** For all they knew he was at lavatory.
***** no he wasn't. He didn't hear the phone go off as he was in the shower. When he was packing the care package for Blades, the answering machine was blinking and he ignored it.
+incarnateTheGreat But they assumed he got the message and thus was expecting them
I'm presuming she changed her mind and decided to leave; which would make more sense
If I recall correctly it's also left like that for the mystery is it the woman he just met or his ex with their child.
"The truth is people are just as scared of the world as you. I'm scared of the world. I just don't let people see it, that's all."
That line gets me everytime.
❤
I remember seeing this ending in theatres and being in a bad mood for the rest of the day. It really took something out of me, I really don't know what it was. Still, brilliant film. Brilliant ending.
Ya man. I just saw it and it left me feeling a bit sour, too. Same for almost all of Irvine Welsh's stories. They don't suck. It's just not really optimistic.
+incarnateTheGreat his movies are just brutally honest
his adaptations? yes. everything he puts pen to paper about is real life.
+incarnateTheGreat I think it shows that sometimes life really do suck, and there's never a light at the end of the tunnel. and if there was a light, you will find nothing there. I think it also represent depression and how there's no such thing as a happy ending. That everything in life is a test of strength and strategies, to survive everyday. But in Ivan's book. It shows the people that loses at the end.
Michael I feel exactly the same man, it was during the summer and I've never felt shittier
my best friend, my only friend
I never cried and laughed so much in to a film. I must read book.
***** You're awful, this book is magic.
Man that ending, I was already expecting it since the beginning but seeing it happen. I really cried, you get to see what goodness was left in him and that little flicker get snuffed.
I'll be honest, I LOVED this movie! I was surprised by how trippy it was and for some reason characters with no redeeming qualities are very interesting to me. I was impressed with how they didn't just make a nasty SOB without any reasons behind his behavior, they actually delved deep into his insanity and examined it very closely. Also, James McAvoy was PHENOMENAL!
Couldn't have said it any better :)
They give plenty of reasons for his behaviour in case you didn’t notice.
I think they accomplished making a movie that 'completely divides opinion'
Yeah, he is a bad person, but you can't help but feel sorry for him in the end.
@Jerry He was a pretty bad person. Literally every last person on the planet has their reasons for how they act and a person's troubles is not reason or excuse to be terrible.
That moment you realize that James McAvoy broke the fourth wall...twice
Thrice actually my dude
Same rules apply
One of the most haunting and memorable film endings I've ever seen. He was truly phenomenal in this, as per usual!
3:24-3:26 Excellent acting by McAvoy. Just by looking at his eyes, we could feel his sorrow and his lament for the possibility of a better life if he wasn't such a big fuck-up. There's even a little tear in there. But alas, we also see sadness and his acceptance of how he is, and that he'll never change, and that him killing himself is his ultimate fate.
I felt it was hope in his eyes when he saw her at the door. All in all that ending was depressing as fuck lol
Self destruction isn't a choice, it's an impulse
Impulses are still choices. Much quicker choices though.
@@naughtyskywalker9292 I politely disagree, impulses cause action without thought, whereas most thoughts are a moment of clarity at least between options.
Nonononono
I'm crying again T_T
I'm starting crying, when he said " My best friend. My only friend."
Hasta los peores canallas merecen un mejor amigo... un único amigo...
@@muchoblablabla destruyó todo lo que lo rodeaba y al final no tenía a nadie que lo ayudara.
@@cuac5869 Se destruyó él, alrededor todo quedó más o menos bien, él no. Y tenía a quién recurrir, lo que no tenía era la capacidad de hacerlo, o de querer cambiar.
Mcavoy is the kind of actor that in everything he is in,he is unforgetable. He manages to draw you in your feelings in every performance.
In this role,he made a hot soup out of my feels and feelings and made me crawl in it.
He is not just unforgetable. He engraved his way in my braincells.
Best ending ever ..
the sad thing about this scene that the story and the character and the actor made me believe that this is the right and only decision that will set him free. stunning, overwhealming and makes me sick that i agree with the character.
That's the thing about movies like this. You know the movies doing something right when you start to sympathize with a violent, sexist, homophobic, racist sociopath.
I have to say always been a massive McAvoy fan but this movie has given me an all new respect for the actor. I as well as many others could see themselves in his character our own selfishness, insecurities & for some quests for self destruction. His performance alone made this film so great & its a frigging crime that this film isn't held in higher regard
If you think this is dark, read the book. It's not even close (love both).
which is the name of the book?
Filth, by Irvine Welsh.
Trying to get a dog to shag a hoore in a barn and film it. Only for the dog to shag his leg and the farmer take the hoor.
@God *0000000eat000000000eat000000000eat00000*
Criminaly underrated.
I keep revisiting this ending year after year and i get the same gut wrenching feeling every single time. as life happens all around (with?) you same rules seem to apply indeed
Damn, I just gave that flick a shot finally. Not what I've expected. Fucking brilliant ending and underrated actor.
That ending was sad. He could have had a second chance.
I wanted to see that.
But hey, that's film for you.
One of the most memorable and impactful endings I've ever seen. McAvoy is such a phenomenal actor! He was insanely great in this.
If you watch that last couple of seconds frame-by-frame, you'll see that he didn't actually kick the chair. It broke. He wasn't going to do it.
Just thought you'd all want that little extra kick in the gut...
Yeah, you can hear it too. That's so freaking sad.
Left me in tears. I really felt it. It’s insane how the film manages to dive so deep into your emotions yet remains so cynical and sarcastic. The ending is state-of-art.
He said "Same rules apply".
omg thank you
makes me cry every time
The ending is awesome.. epic.
It’s the line I kid you not my sweet sweet friend,my best friend,my only friend get me EVERYTIME and I cry buckets
Very good book, top notch film, and a stunning James McAvoy!
So, everyone will debate and ask the same question. Why Does Bruce kill himself. Bruce is scared of the world. He even admits it too himself. After he is reveled to be pretending to be his wife, his world becomes clearer. When his boss tells him he can't be inspector, his makes him feel like shit, he feels like everything he has done is his fault, because it is. Then, the person who he humiliated and made to look a creep, got his job. He also talks about "the games" and that "the same rules apply", these quotes finally come back and fuck him over. Bruce kills himself with the scarf the women gave him, who he likes. Literally the second he puts his foot on the top of the chair, she appears with her child at the door. It's too late, Bruce can't turn back.
Anyone here during quarantine ?
Me
@@beatrizsnf9481 Glad I'm not the only one, Filth by Irvine Welsch shall live on
that's one creepy way of suddenly transitioning to the title card.
My best friend..., my only friend.... gets me right in the fucking feels
I'm so mind fucked right now, I can't decide if him (spoiler) at the end is a good or bad thing.
I really hope he didn't die, but then again there is the sequel "crime" i dunno if he is dead in that book
esc_19 He dies in the book aswell
(spoiler)
yep after i read that part i was kinda confused and really hopeful that MAYBE he survived....oh wel, great book bte
Its a good thing, despite the fact the character opened up and we saw his human side, the fact that he died shows us how his actions were wrong, thats what this scene is about, he realises his problems and he loses the games, also why he says the line 'Same Rules Apply'
He didn't tie the rope properly to hang yourself. Either this is intentional or it's there so people don't actually know how to create a rope strong enough to commit suicide with.
You're supposed to create the noose by coiling the upper/lower parts around each other, so it wraps tight enough to snap your neck/suffocate you afterwards. A simple knot like he died would probably buckle under his bodyweight
Man...that last glimmer of hope when they showed up at his door. Then that last glimmer of pain and happiness right before he killed himself...Deep
I teared up a lot at the end of this film. The last half hour is just so fucking painful to watch. He’s severely struggling yet it is so hard to feel bad for a man who did so much awful stuff. This film is a masterwork. It is a film that truly divided opinions and shocked everyone. Beautiful, shocking and fucking painful film.
"Sometimes it takes a wrongdoer to show you when you're doing wrong"
i just saw the movie and had to re-watch the ending, its so fucking cool
my heart broke together with that chair
"Same rules apply" *Laughs manically as the chair slips* keeps cracking me up! I wanna end it like that, whenever I decide to go all in.
if you're still on lockdown, please don't watch this. i know that everybody's having a hard time with rejection, unrequitted love, broken promises, things unsaid and undone...i want to tell you something: you are valid.
*hug*
Great ending for a great movie, that version of radiohead's song is beautiful. 👏👏👏
It was clint mansell and it's a brilliant version 👏
I put this movie on Netflix expecting another movie about a dirty cop. I was so blown away with how amazing and deep it actually was. Little did I know it was based on an Irvine Welsh novel.
Welsh wanted to see if he could make readers feel sympathy and root for a completely irredeemable scumbag, and he absolutely nailed it. This final fuck you to the audience had me laughing. The scene where he breaks down and admits he thinks his family has left him hit me hard.
This is hands down one of my favourite movies of all time.
Same rules apply, my dear sweet friend.
Same rules apply.
check out "acic house" dvd {from the novel) 3 crazy short films
The ending line is because he's fucked with people his whole life and messed with their heads that now seeing either his wife and kid or the widow lady (can't remember name right now) and her son at the door is someone else fucking with him and so "the same rules apply" and he understands it's fake therefore carries through with his suicide.
my big mate hanged himself after years of cocaine addiction this brings a tear to my eye what a brilliant film
Your comment brought a sad sigh to me just after reading it, but after reading your username and as a Celtic fan.. I still say your comment gave me a sad sigh, hope you are good mate and take care!
A lot of people miss the whole point of the ending and the credits song. Bruce was Bipolar at least, his moods were up and down, the ending of this movie (along with the depressing, though brilliant song) symbolises his depressive times and the credits song symbolises his happy times. Simple magnificent
This ending has remained with me for a long long time
This movie will forever be in my heart, mind, and soul, as it was the first time when my closest friend and I ever tried alcohol, thoughtfully brought by my older cousin.
sometimes it takes a wrong-doer to show you when you're doing wrong
Amazing film, one of my favourites.
glorious fucking ending.
Absolute fantastic actor
Look he IS dead, and the second book isn't about him and I don't think he's mentioned in it!!
He is mentioned in it, Irvine can do hat he wants though.
Its not about him but about lennox; so during the story mentions bruce as his old friend... The book is "crime".... And in "glue" there's a small reference about a psico cop who's dead after killed ghostie, one of chatacters of "zero tollerance".... In filth is the guy who massacre bruce in the scene where u can understund bruce and the assassin as the same person
That brutal cut at the end, when the chair collapses....
Man, I LOVE that fourth wall break
absolutely loved the rendition of irvine’s book
Best Movie Ever!
This is art this scene. Irvine welshes book narrates this in more detail. Incredible cinema x
Not going to lie. I pissed myself laughing when he laughed to the camera and then just died
Great ending! Couldn't have been done any other way.
SuperAnigo
At least tell us the ending in the book
plok ijuh in the book he calls his wife to come visit and plans on jumping right as she walks in wearing a shirt he made that says 'you did this'. he hears the door opening and he jumps but his daughter walks in instead. then he dies. also, in the novel, he's actually the killer from the murder case, not just a witness.
Dude, please change the title... I think 'Bruce hanging (Filth ending)' could give away something ;)
it's how many people are feeling, things that happened in the past still effecting them...also how they are dvided between the good and the bad !!
it's exactly how I feel :(
This scene really hit me hard. I couldn’t stop crying. James Mcavoy is also amazing in this movie 👍🏻
In the book the woman and the child open the door... Couse the woman was Carol then has the keys.... Read the book if u really wonna know how finish the story....
that makes it even worse.
and it wasnt japanese and wasnt in scotland
In the book the end Is really differnce.... Doughter's Bruce open the Door and She sees Bruce with a t shirt Whith the writing 'its your foult"
Guys? Can anyone tell me what he's saying in the last scene? In german it's called "Ohne Wenn und Aber" but what's the original content in english?
do you mean "same rules apply" ?
Yes;"same rules apply".... In the book bruce uses this phrase every time he gets in trouble someone... Is like his philosophy of life....
Most depressing scene I had seen in all of the movies that I watched
Just one fantastic performance 👏
A very moving and heartbreaking ending to a very tremendous film.
Brilliant ending! For once they didn't take the easy way out and turn it into a happy ending.
This ending is positively cheerful compared to the book...
As morbid as it is i think this is the best possible ending for bruce, hes sinned so much the only attonement is in death
The director is TOO smart ))!!!
Amazing !
Every once and then I watch this film thinking.
Смотрел концовку больше 50 раз, как бы я хотел покончить со всем этим
when you're on a downward hill, you want to bring every one with you
incredible film
He played people but when he finally tried to get out
Life played him
The chair broke and he's dead
I love this movie, the ending was just so upsetting though.
the chair snapped
when I watched this movie..I was same feeling with James. but now I married and baby but sometimes still can't behind something wrong with me
I don't know why though I cried after seeing this the first time.
Firswt time since The Road.
He definitely would have ruined their lives. Glad he didn’t end up with the vulnerable widow.
Exactly it was fate.
Its funny because in the beginning of the movie, when carol is talking, she/he says that she/he keeps her/his marriage alive and spicy because she is a tease. Now we see Robbo give us the little tease that he might just be saved.
How can that scarf support his weight lol
The song goes so well
The Real Song Is Better Than The Cover.
No it's not.I love Radiohead but cover is way better.
At the end, he says "Same rules apply"
My sweet sweet friend.... my best friend.... my only friend...💯🔱
I cried..
love this
The best movie I've seen in a long time, but oh my god it was so upsetting. The ending was like a big 'Fuck you!" to the audience. in those final moments I was almost sure he was going to have some sort of redemptive moment, it was all going to be okay for Bruce, he was going to get down, get the door, find love, but then; "Same rules apply." and I literally yelled.
Class
This may be a dumb question but what are the rules? Are they just to be the best? I watched the entire movie and I'm still unsure
They're the rules Bruce lives his life by
The rules are not to trust or let anyone to enter your life.
What does it mean when he says "Same rules apply." ?
amazing ending and film
BEST
cried my eyes out watching this film