It seems all to often people have guidelines in which they think all films should follow, I feel not all films have to have a message or make them feel a warm glow. I found the film highly entertaining
James McAvoy actually comments on the 'hope' aspect once, he said Trainspotting had hopes at the end because the characters are at their young age. But Filth on the other hand is about adult who went too far. That probably is why there should be no hope for this character:
I thought it was a sad and deeply moving film, which beyond the shock actually did have things to say. It touched on bio-polar/borderline personality as a condition rather well. The destructive slide to madness and death, is not so much a comment on the police, or addiction, but the deep need to want to be loved, and be a 'good' person, but the self loathing and controlling nature of the mental health condition that Bruce has, corrodes his humanity. A great film, very much in the vain of The Bad Lieutenant by Abel Ferrara, and I would suggest reading about bi-polar and what it can do to suffer's and the people around them as well.
The parts of the film which dealt with his mental illness didn't go far enough in explaining his condition and how it related to the trauma he went through as a child (which is covered in more harrowing detail by the tapeworm-narrator in the book). Instead we only get brief glimpses of the character's history, which feel somewhat rushed. Similarly, his misanthropy isn't expressed to the same extreme as in the book, so he appears more 'cheeky' than genuinely sociopathic in his antics and eventual deterioration. I think the film had a hard time balancing the humour (which felt bland) and the darkness (which felt routine and rather piecemeal) so it ended up looking like a slightly confused series of sketches. I did feel that the very last scene completely misjudged the tone. The final page of the book is devastating, but the film ends on a wink and laugh, which felt totally inappropriate.
Just came back from it. Was a tough, suffocating watch. James McAvoy is a delight to watch with his extreme mood changes and winks to the audience. There are plenty of camera close-ups to give a claustrophobic feel. The first half is a hilarious and rollicking good time of Bruce fucking over everyone to get his promotion. The second half is bringing his darkest desires and repressed issues to the light of day.
James McAvoy delivered a perfect black-comedic performance in this film. His unapologetic and unrelenting immoral behaviour, was both amusing and dramatic - often at the same time - and while always remaining believable. The film effortlessly held my attention from start to finish, which is a rarity in modern cinema. It's an antagonising and filthy tragedy.
Excellent film..watch it a couple of times, get past the initial 'filth' shock and you will experience the full depth of the narrative. It's Shakespearean in the scope of its tragedy. McAvoy gives credibility to the character and leaves one with a profound sense of loss and sadness at the end. Ironically all the other main characters were forced to deal with their own failings and came out much stronger for it. Right at the end Bruce had a choice..he could have chosen to start a new life with an obviously compassionate woman, but chose not to impose his 'filth' on her. A selfless, redeeming act at the end.
I am happy to watch a film like Filth. I am happy for the tone not to be the one I would have chosen myself. And I don't really understand how anyone would insist on it being otherwise.
Though my tent is (at the moment) pitched in the 'loved this film' field, I can't help but agree with Mark on a lot of points. James McAvoy is superb. The soundtrack is excellent (David Soul!!! Shaky!!!). Just don't go expecting a laugh riot.
I read the book Filth years ago but I’ve never seen this movie I found the book a deeply unpleasant experience because of the character, and what he does Watching this, I think whatever bit was that repulsed me about it was exactly what repulsed Mark. I’ve never seen this film, but as he was describing his reaction to it I knew exactly what he felt
I always saw Mcavoy's character as someone disillusioned with the romanticism of the world; both by way of his literal profession and his domestic situation, which has led him into this descent of twisted nihilistic hedonism that ultimately destroys him. Great character piece and definitely a pertinent example of how to transfer the depth of a character from novel to film.
@@Jonatan606 Not exactly. The point is, Bruce is always in the state of anger and doubt. He doesn't trust people are good. He always justifies his actions because he believes people mean harm to him. If you read the book, you'd understand why the film is the way it is. In the ending, you see Bruce care for Clifford, you see he cares for the widow and her child, and before he hangs and dies, the widow and child(possinly hus ex wife and daughter) appears at the door. He finally wants to live and be good. But, Same Rules Apply. And he is a goner
Why are there no Shakespearian comparitives about this film, it's a tragedy, why hasn't it been seen as such? Everytime it breaks my heart The film is completely underated
why is he constantly relatin it with trainspottin the films have nothin to do with each other,filth is one of the best films of the year mark hasnt got a clue
This film is just depressing. Coping with his past trauma by indulging in degenerate acts while placing immense pressure on himself to attain this mediocre position at the place department. Just watching him destroy his old self through every single line of coke and deviant tale. It’s really not a comedy.
I liked the film, but didn't enjoy it (though that is not a negative point). I'm not even sure what emotion I felt at the end... especially with that Billy Joel song playing as tears strolled down my face.
I growled, stomped, punched air, was looking for pig faces, and walking aggresively for 30 minutes after finishing it. I am in the, "I loved the movie" opinion.
Sir the Title Is Filth! What More do you Want? how can you have hope when the movie starts with the Most FD scene. there's no way to go around that. and I'm Glad the Movie ended like that cause me personally was sympathizing with the Character and almost forgiving his sins with no consequences. the fact that he had a last glimpse of hope then realizing non other than him himself choose to give up then tried desperately too go back only to realize that "Same Rules Apply" was Genius
He didn't laugh very much? The film is very funny in a dark way. He's trying to compare it to trainspotting but it's a completely different kind of film. The characters are not supposed to be likable. I think this guy is too sanitised in his nature to enjoy it. Personally I think its a brilliant film and James mcavoys performance was amazing in so many ways.
3:40 I disagree sir. Looks like you follow a set of rules of what a movie should be or do. I get annoyed when people compared it with Trainspotting. Filth is not about young, troubled-but-full-of-hope-in-the-end people. It is a grimy, about the middle aged all-hope-is-lost and out-of-his-mind character. There is a glimpse of humanity in him that shines and gives you a hope for redemption and happy ending but you do not get it. Life IS cruel and grimy after all. He was a bullied bully who could not go any deeper in his evil ways;he realised who he really was and gave himself a way out. It is a downward spiral but with a sh1tshow bang, not just a depressing low key slide. You don't need a spoonful of sugar to digest the darkness mister, because there is no happy end here. PS: You want to punch, hug, report, go to the doctor, fall in love and get drunk with Bruce all at the same time which is a testament to Mr.Mcavoys' craftsmanship. This movie slaps you in the face and you want to see more. I was aching body and soul through it and I loved it. Rarely a movie does that anymore. Sure, you hope for a happy ending, but is it for him or for you as a viewer? Makes you think.
It's testosterone driven so Mark is naturally going to hate it, he only likes effeminate stuff, the praise he gave The Party was laughable, one of the most boring 'comedies' ever made
It seems all to often people have guidelines in which they think all films should follow, I feel not all films have to have a message or make them feel a warm glow. I found the film highly entertaining
+davidbowie1100 it was amazing
I agree
James McAvoy actually comments on the 'hope' aspect once, he said Trainspotting had hopes at the end because the characters are at their young age. But Filth on the other hand is about adult who went too far. That probably is why there should be no hope for this character:
Magnificent performance by James McAvoy
best performance Ive ever seen, honestly
I thought it was a sad and deeply moving film, which beyond the shock actually did have things to say.
It touched on bio-polar/borderline personality as a condition rather well. The destructive slide to madness and death, is not so much a comment on the police, or addiction, but the deep need to want to be loved, and be a 'good' person, but the self loathing and controlling nature of the mental health condition that Bruce has, corrodes his humanity.
A great film, very much in the vain of The Bad Lieutenant by Abel Ferrara, and I would suggest reading about bi-polar and what it can do to suffer's and the people around them as well.
Surely it Schizophrenia he's suffering from, no? The visions, the voices?
The parts of the film which dealt with his mental illness didn't go far enough in explaining his condition and how it related to the trauma he went through as a child (which is covered in more harrowing detail by the tapeworm-narrator in the book). Instead we only get brief glimpses of the character's history, which feel somewhat rushed. Similarly, his misanthropy isn't expressed to the same extreme as in the book, so he appears more 'cheeky' than genuinely sociopathic in his antics and eventual deterioration. I think the film had a hard time balancing the humour (which felt bland) and the darkness (which felt routine and rather piecemeal) so it ended up looking like a slightly confused series of sketches. I did feel that the very last scene completely misjudged the tone. The final page of the book is devastating, but the film ends on a wink and laugh, which felt totally inappropriate.
Well said
Just came back from it. Was a tough, suffocating watch.
James McAvoy is a delight to watch with his extreme mood changes and winks to the audience. There are plenty of camera close-ups to give a claustrophobic feel. The first half is a hilarious and rollicking good time of Bruce fucking over everyone to get his promotion. The second half is bringing his darkest desires and repressed issues to the light of day.
I loved it, especially the twist at the end.
Mark looking there for a happy ending. The magic of storytelling undone. A hero who fails on their journey. Watch it.
I agree. It is funny at times but it is also a bloody dark portrayal of a man falling apart. Great performances by all the actors.
James McAvoy delivered a perfect black-comedic performance in this film. His unapologetic and unrelenting immoral behaviour, was both amusing and dramatic - often at the same time - and while always remaining believable.
The film effortlessly held my attention from start to finish, which is a rarity in modern cinema. It's an antagonising and filthy tragedy.
This film is amazing
Excellent film..watch it a couple of times, get past the initial 'filth' shock and you will experience the full depth of the narrative. It's Shakespearean in the scope of its tragedy. McAvoy gives credibility to the character and leaves one with a profound sense of loss and sadness at the end. Ironically all the other main characters were forced to deal with their own failings and came out much stronger for it. Right at the end Bruce had a choice..he could have chosen to start a new life with an obviously compassionate woman, but chose not to impose his 'filth' on her. A selfless, redeeming act at the end.
Unbelievably powerful film and James McAvoy is a fearless genius
If you a fan of people talking really close to eachothers faces , boy you should watch this movie
I thought it was brilliant. i don't often go back to watch films again, i did this one and it just keeps giving.
A fantastic piece of acting
Mark's "Bleeeeeeeeh" is now my ringtone.
steven sloan
Well to start with
They are both based on books by the same person. Never doubt Mark
WHY HE DOESN'T HAVE AN OSCAR!???? SOMEONE CAN ANSWER ME THIS?! I'm sick of it! He deserves it so bad! He is an amaizing actor!
I know right
Him and Willem Dafoe deserve them for sure it irritates me they haven’t won
if oscars were fair, he def would have won one for this performance. Hes clearly better than any other actor in any other movie in this.
Just because a film doesn't have a message doesn't mean it's bad. Professional critics never seem to get this
I am happy to watch a film like Filth. I am happy for the tone not to be the one I would have chosen myself. And I don't really understand how anyone would insist on it being otherwise.
Though my tent is (at the moment) pitched in the 'loved this film' field, I can't help but agree with Mark on a lot of points. James McAvoy is superb. The soundtrack is excellent (David Soul!!! Shaky!!!). Just don't go expecting a laugh riot.
I doubt the film was meant to be a comedy. But there is a lot of funny moments that had me laughing. The movie was very palatable
I read the book Filth years ago but I’ve never seen this movie
I found the book a deeply unpleasant experience because of the character, and what he does
Watching this, I think whatever bit was that repulsed me about it was exactly what repulsed Mark.
I’ve never seen this film, but as he was describing his reaction to it I knew exactly what he felt
I think they shied away from making him quite that awful in the film.
I always saw Mcavoy's character as someone disillusioned with the romanticism of the world; both by way of his literal profession and his domestic situation, which has led him into this descent of twisted nihilistic hedonism that ultimately destroys him. Great character piece and definitely a pertinent example of how to transfer the depth of a character from novel to film.
just watched this film-James McAvoy is amazing!!!loved it-this writer is a bit fucked up tho.lol(trainspotting and filth)
It's not a comedy... It's a black comedy... Plus it's also a dark drama
I loved the film, however at times it's just too dark! The actors did an amazing job
It is meant to be dark. It is meant to shock you.
@@JellyBea420 No one is denying that but it becomes self-indulgent in trying to push the dark nature constantly. Some nuance would have been nice.
@@Jonatan606 Not exactly. The point is, Bruce is always in the state of anger and doubt. He doesn't trust people are good. He always justifies his actions because he believes people mean harm to him. If you read the book, you'd understand why the film is the way it is. In the ending, you see Bruce care for Clifford, you see he cares for the widow and her child, and before he hangs and dies, the widow and child(possinly hus ex wife and daughter) appears at the door. He finally wants to live and be good. But, Same Rules Apply. And he is a goner
@@JellyBea420 I understand but my criticism would have been the same for the book as well.
nearly spat out my tea at 3:43 when Mark asks Simon what he thought...you've changed mark.
Why are there no Shakespearian comparitives about this film, it's a tragedy, why hasn't it been seen as such?
Everytime it breaks my heart
The film is completely underated
I loved the movie
Same rules apply
Through and through...
= it was not long enough
why is he constantly relatin it with trainspottin the films have nothin to do with each other,filth is one of the best films of the year mark hasnt got a clue
This film is just depressing.
Coping with his past trauma by indulging in degenerate acts while placing immense pressure on himself to attain this mediocre position at the place department. Just watching him destroy his old self through every single line of coke and deviant tale.
It’s really not a comedy.
I liked the film, but didn't enjoy it (though that is not a negative point). I'm not even sure what emotion I felt at the end... especially with that Billy Joel song playing as tears strolled down my face.
I growled, stomped, punched air, was looking for pig faces, and walking aggresively for 30 minutes after finishing it. I am in the, "I loved the movie" opinion.
@@uncertainsubscriber4815 I got choked
@@gloriasenpai8980 I forgot that I also cryed.
Sir the Title Is Filth! What More do you Want? how can you have hope when the movie starts with the Most FD scene. there's no way to go around that. and I'm Glad the Movie ended like that cause me personally was sympathizing with the Character and almost forgiving his sins with no consequences. the fact that he had a last glimpse of hope then realizing non other than him himself choose to give up then tried desperately too go back only to realize that "Same Rules Apply" was Genius
Brilliant film 🍿 do not believe one word of this boring review
Sooo, not a birthday movie then?
He didn't laugh very much? The film is very funny in a dark way. He's trying to compare it to trainspotting but it's a completely different kind of film. The characters are not supposed to be likable. I think this guy is too sanitised in his nature to enjoy it. Personally I think its a brilliant film and James mcavoys performance was amazing in so many ways.
I love this film
3:40 I disagree sir. Looks like you follow a set of rules of what a movie should be or do.
I get annoyed when people compared it with Trainspotting. Filth is not about young, troubled-but-full-of-hope-in-the-end people. It is a grimy, about the middle aged all-hope-is-lost and out-of-his-mind character.
There is a glimpse of humanity in him that shines and gives you a hope for redemption and happy ending but you do not get it.
Life IS cruel and grimy after all. He was a bullied bully who could not go any deeper in his evil ways;he realised who he really was and gave himself a way out. It is a downward spiral but with a sh1tshow bang, not just a depressing low key slide.
You don't need a spoonful of sugar to digest the darkness mister, because there is no happy end here.
PS: You want to punch, hug, report, go to the doctor, fall in love and get drunk with Bruce all at the same time which is a testament to Mr.Mcavoys' craftsmanship. This movie slaps you in the face and you want to see more. I was aching body and soul through it and I loved it. Rarely a movie does that anymore.
Sure, you hope for a happy ending, but is it for him or for you as a viewer? Makes you think.
He goes deeper in his evil ways in the book.
Marks favourite band is a very middle class Englishman who’s favourite band is ABBA the fact he finds filth too dark shouldn’t put you off
Sounds pretty good.
I thought it was great, but I do agree with some points made.
Impressive. But so bleak
It is meant to be bleak.
I was annoyed that alot of the rock references from the book got overlooked in the film..the gillain Coverdale argument made me laugh
I find suffering to a degree funny so I was good with this film.
I loved it
The film is great
I loved that movie. This guy is full of bc.
Definitely not comedic, laugh out loud funny. Depressing mostly.
it’s more of a british comedy, which tends to be more depressing, and black humour
Don’t listen to this, go watch it
I like his review of the film ma it's funny
It's testosterone driven so Mark is naturally going to hate it, he only likes effeminate stuff, the praise he gave The Party was laughable, one of the most boring 'comedies' ever made
Brilliant film. Dont agree with him at all. Unbelievable performances from all the cast.