There are several different time signature at play in this song. It is basically 4/4 but some of them are playing in 2/4, 5/4 and even 9/8 at times. Everything in this song is deliberate, a demonstration of the exceptional musicianship and production. It had to be simplified live. Not the only Zeppelin song with different times signatures at the same time and shifting time signatures.
Jimmy knew how to keep the meat and potatoes in the production. The rawness was totally intentional, and the looseness of that riff is what gives it that swagger. It would sound silly if were produced clean. By the way, John Paul Jones wrote that riff, the most underrated member of the band!
JPJ actually said this was in a result of a conversation with his father which they discussed time signatures and the band wanted a song that could not be covered easily
Initial recordings were done using the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio at Headley Grange, a (at the time) dilapidated Victorian mansion. Additional recordings were done later at a different studio. Page in particular re-recorded all the guitar parts. With "Black Dog" he wanted to due a studio technique that was used for Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl" that couldn't be done with the mobile studio. The timing was tricky, especially with the turnaround. The time signature actually shifts during the riff, making it difficult to play, and is one of the reasons the song is loose and a bit sloppy. Page lands ahead of the beat a few times. When the band comes in after Plant always changes too, because they relied on Bonham to count them in. I have a friend who is a drummer, and when he plays along with song, he says it's awkward because Bonham just seems to come in whenever he feels like. There was a black labrador retriever that didn't belong to anybody that was hanging around Headley Grange. Needing a song title, the dog got the honor.
Jimmy said he was influenced by Fleetwood Mac's 'Oh Well' & he wanted to replicate the style of singing without music & then the guitar coming in after. Absolute classic Zeppelin.
I’ve never heard/read Jimmy make such a statement. I’ve heard this theory, but there’s really no resemblance whatsoever in my mind, with the exception of the start/stop.
“Since I’ve Been Loving You” - this Live HD version especially because it avoids ads, has a great intro, audience reaction, great angles of Plant and Page. And all in HD. It’s the famous MSG (Madison Square Garden) 1973, but better than the video that first pops up if you search using such search terms. ua-cam.com/video/1gHlbHtdVLU/v-deo.html
You were correct about the dog. A black lab that nobody knows were it came from was hanging out (especially with Robert) with the band while they were there. The band was having all sorts of trouble trying to give that song a name, so they gave up decided on Black Dog.
About 1978, my aunt Judy is over at the house and we're jamming to this in my room. She comes in and listens to it for a bit. Just about the time he says "I don't know, but I've been told, a big legged woman aint got no soul," she says "This stuff is gonna melt your minds!" and I said "Oh come on Aunt Judy, your legs aren't `that` big." Suffice to say, she was not amused. 😂
Its called Black Dog because during recordings, a black lab kept coming aound. They grew fond of it and gave him the title. Its about a woman who was just into being famous through the band.
I think they stayed at a country house called Headly Grange, & they used The Rolling Stones mobile recording studio. There was a black Labrador Retriever that hung out & followed them all around,I guess it was a tribute to the black dog. My understanding that country house, didn’t have heat or running water, they were roughing it. There is some home footage of them while there, & from outside you can hear them practicing, it’s pretty cool.
I'll never forget the night I got to see Robert Plant open up for The Who in Chicago. It wasn't Led Zep, but Plant performed many Led Zep songs that night. Led Zeppelin and The Who on the same bill..............it was bliss.
I was about 12 or 13 years old when this song came out I probably never would have heard it but we got it for free in either a bag of potato chips which they used to do back then or in the mail it was on a 45 RPM record and on the flip side was the Immigrant Song. I loved it but it kind of went over the head of a lot of my girlfriends made me a fan of Led Zeppelin early on and the boys thought that was cool😊
I've never been able to figure out that odd timing in this song one rumor about the title is that it refers to a love spell gone wrong. the protagonist casts a spell to get a woman to love him, but she turns out to be more trouble than he bargained for. the rules of the spell say that he has 3 days to reverse it if he sees a black dog in his path.
Those "mistakes" are EXACTLY why this song is timeless, and CANNOT be "perfected"... (It's what gives you that "stank face" when listening). To think there's "room for improvement" is to not fully grasp/experience Led Zeppelin. Having said that, I DO get the "sloppy" reference.. but after listening so many times over the years, I believe that's more "style" than "slop"...they're "ripping" out and "slapping" those riffs with attitude (they grab and drag the tempo by the balls...). The more you listen, the more you realize how "perfect" it already is. 🙂
Nobody’s vocals come even close to Roberts, my opinion the greatest voice, of course today he can’t hit those high clear notes. He’s still singing writing & touring solo, his interviews are funny & amazing.
Hey Mizy & Meezy, good to see you back! It's been 5 months since your last *ELO* reaction. Can you please react to them next?! The song I recommend is perhaps their most Beatles-esque songs--it's called, *"The Diary of Horace Wimp".* You'll love it, guaranteed!!
You guys have got to do a reaction to Grand Funk Railroad 1969. The song Inside Looking Out. Make sure it's the one where the lead singer is wearing a green vest. It is the absolute best video. I promise it will be your new favorite. I look forward to seeing your reaction. Love your videos. I just recently found you guys. PLEEEEEEZZE watch this video. Thanx
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Two different time signatures. JPJ called it a “Stomp Groove”. When asked why they played it that way, he said “Because we can”.
And they sure could!
There are several different time signature at play in this song. It is basically 4/4 but some of them are playing in 2/4, 5/4 and even 9/8 at times. Everything in this song is deliberate, a demonstration of the exceptional musicianship and production. It had to be simplified live. Not the only Zeppelin song with different times signatures at the same time and shifting time signatures.
The fretless bass adds to the "loose" sound.
THE HAMMER OF THE GODS- LED ZEPPELIN ❤❤❤❤❤
gotta love every time they come in a beat early with that: BOW BOW "oooooh yeah....oooooh yeah....uh...uh...uh"
If you want bass, you gotta do “When the Levee Breaks”
Jimmy knew how to keep the meat and potatoes in the production. The rawness was totally intentional, and the looseness of that riff is what gives it that swagger. It would sound silly if were produced clean. By the way, John Paul Jones wrote that riff, the most underrated member of the band!
There are no mistakes in this song.
Zip.
Sorry to disappoint.
This was the first album I listened to stoned back in the 70s, WOW is all I can say.
JPJ actually said this was in a result of a conversation with his father which they discussed time signatures and the band wanted a song that could not be covered easily
Initial recordings were done using the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio at Headley Grange, a (at the time) dilapidated Victorian mansion. Additional recordings were done later at a different studio. Page in particular re-recorded all the guitar parts. With "Black Dog" he wanted to due a studio technique that was used for Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl" that couldn't be done with the mobile studio.
The timing was tricky, especially with the turnaround. The time signature actually shifts during the riff, making it difficult to play, and is one of the reasons the song is loose and a bit sloppy. Page lands ahead of the beat a few times. When the band comes in after Plant always changes too, because they relied on Bonham to count them in. I have a friend who is a drummer, and when he plays along with song, he says it's awkward because Bonham just seems to come in whenever he feels like.
There was a black labrador retriever that didn't belong to anybody that was hanging around Headley Grange. Needing a song title, the dog got the honor.
Jimmy said he was influenced by Fleetwood Mac's 'Oh Well' & he wanted to replicate the style of singing without music & then the guitar coming in after. Absolute classic Zeppelin.
I’ve never heard/read Jimmy make such a statement. I’ve heard this theory, but there’s really no resemblance whatsoever in my mind, with the exception of the start/stop.
“Since I’ve Been Loving You” - this Live HD version especially because it avoids ads, has a great intro, audience reaction, great angles of Plant and Page. And all in HD. It’s the famous MSG (Madison Square Garden) 1973, but better than the video that first pops up if you search using such search terms. ua-cam.com/video/1gHlbHtdVLU/v-deo.html
You were correct about the dog. A black lab that nobody knows were it came from was hanging out (especially with Robert) with the band while they were there. The band was having all sorts of trouble trying to give that song a name, so they gave up decided on Black Dog.
jimmy improvised every solo he ever played, live or studio!
About 1978, my aunt Judy is over at the house and we're jamming to this in my room. She comes in and listens to it for a bit. Just about the time he says "I don't know, but I've been told, a big legged woman aint got no soul," she says "This stuff is gonna melt your minds!" and I said "Oh come on Aunt Judy, your legs aren't `that` big." Suffice to say, she was not amused. 😂
I love it! Awesome story. I hope your Aunt Judy recovered! 🤣
Gotta hear the live verdion at MSG
Don't you love it when reactors say stuff like "No dilly dallying. Then they Dilly Dally. Just messing with ya.
Please do The Song Remains The Same/The Rain Song live at MSG in 1973!! Killer!!
Hey guys. Love your reactions!! Always nice to hear the GOATS!! Nice to see family jamming out together.
One of the first guitar riffs I learned. This and "Fly By Night" by Rush
Wow, you started with a tough one. Slash admitted he can’t even play it right.😂
Its called Black Dog because during recordings, a black lab kept coming aound. They grew fond of it and gave him the title. Its about a woman who was just into being famous through the band.
I think they stayed at a country house called Headly Grange, & they used The Rolling Stones mobile recording studio. There was a black Labrador Retriever that hung out & followed them all around,I guess it was a tribute to the black dog. My understanding that country house, didn’t have heat or running water, they were roughing it. There is some home footage of them while there, & from outside you can hear them practicing, it’s pretty cool.
When the Levee Breaks, same album, is amazing.
You guys are now my favorite reaction duo...when you went ape shit during Dazed and Confused was the best
MORE ZEPPELIN!! Do their live performances!!
10:25 roberts highest studio note and they kinda buried it in the mix lol MONSTER g5
Wow, higher than the scream leading into the solo of “Rock N’ Roll”?
I'll never forget the night I got to see Robert Plant open up for The Who in Chicago. It wasn't Led Zep, but Plant performed many Led Zep songs that night. Led Zeppelin and The Who on the same bill..............it was bliss.
I was about 12 or 13 years old when this song came out I probably never would have heard it but we got it for free in either a bag of potato chips which they used to do back then or in the mail it was on a 45 RPM record and on the flip side was the Immigrant Song. I loved it but it kind of went over the head of a lot of my girlfriends made me a fan of Led Zeppelin early on and the boys thought that was cool😊
"Tight but Loose"
I've never been able to figure out that odd timing in this song
one rumor about the title is that it refers to a love spell gone wrong. the protagonist casts a spell to get a woman to love him, but she turns out to be more trouble than he bargained for. the rules of the spell say that he has 3 days to reverse it if he sees a black dog in his path.
I think I'm right in saying that they wanted a track that you couldn't dance to.
yes, this would be a tuff song to dance to lol
Smoke a little weed and you can
Those "mistakes" are EXACTLY why this song is timeless, and CANNOT be "perfected"... (It's what gives you that "stank face" when listening).
To think there's "room for improvement" is to not fully grasp/experience Led Zeppelin. Having said that, I DO get the "sloppy" reference.. but after listening so many times over the years, I believe that's more "style" than "slop"...they're "ripping" out and "slapping" those riffs with attitude (they grab and drag the tempo by the balls...). The more you listen, the more you realize how "perfect" it already is. 🙂
Everything about this track is intentional nothing sloppy about it,,it was played exactly as intended!
What technical mistakes?
Sloppy? 😂
There are producers over 50 years later that STILL can’t get records to sound like this, even with modern technology..
the opening is Page making his guitar sound like a dog panting, hence, Black Dog.
Nobody’s vocals come even close to Roberts, my opinion the greatest voice, of course today he can’t hit those high clear notes. He’s still singing writing & touring solo, his interviews are funny & amazing.
Hey Mizy & Meezy, good to see you back! It's been 5 months since your last *ELO* reaction. Can you please react to them next?! The song I recommend is perhaps their most Beatles-esque songs--it's called, *"The Diary of Horace Wimp".* You'll love it, guaranteed!!
We actually reacted to a ELO song the same night of this reaction. It will be out soon ;)
@@reactioninaction7415 Awesome! Can't wait!!
OMG watch jimmy page ,and the EDGE kashmir , he was not slopey it was brilant
You guys have got to do a reaction to Grand Funk Railroad 1969. The song Inside Looking Out. Make sure it's the one where the lead singer is wearing a green vest. It is the absolute best video. I promise it will be your new favorite. I look forward to seeing your reaction. Love your videos. I just recently found you guys. PLEEEEEEZZE watch this video. Thanx
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Sloppy?
Noone can reproduce it.
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Jimmy was a sloppy guitarist (In a great way)
nasty on purpose