Motorcycle winglets - how they work | Home Schooling Lesson 2
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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#Lesson 2: Aerodynamics part 2 - how do wings on a bike work and why do we need them
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Great content Adam sir, as you say road riding doesn't really benefit from the wings but track riding makes a lot of sence cheers 😁😎
Amazing video ❤
very nice video sir, very simple and informative
Would wings have a better effect of keeping the front wheel down, if instead of being attached to the side fairings, where the suspension acts as a buffer to the front wheel, they were attached to the sides of the front wheel cowl or lower suspension fork?
The downforce created is then direct to the front wheel with no buffer, could likely be smaller, and could aid in aerodynamic flow direction to the main fairings.
What if a lot of down force in the corner?so dose it make the bike slip to opposite direction?
winglets are often angled so the rider blocks the inner winglet (the one that would push you out) because he uses hanging off and restricts the flow over the winglet with his body.
Great show. Keep it up, your discuss gives me better understanding
Love from Brazil
Very detailed and insightful video.
but it failed to mention a very important detail. what is downforce an the straight is force that pushes outside in a curve, because bikes other than cars lean. that is why many winglets hav an angle, the winglet that is on top in a curve still creates downforce, and the lower wing is blocked off completely. Why? because the rider uses hanging off , airflow is restricted on the inside. therefore. winglets work the best when hanging off, and cann be a liability when you do not use hanging off.
Thanks once again. I'm wondering how far the front wheel needs to come up before the wings start creating lift?
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Thanks, so on a road bike they're just expensive frame sliders. 😱👍
@@slovencleta If the wing is upside down, would they ever produce lift on a wheelie or just simply aerodynamic stall. And produce unwanted and high drag forces at high angles of attack.
Also if a closely following bike is continually stepping in and out of turbulent and laminar air would the effect be too sketchy (technical term) to handle? Where's that wind tunnel to test out theories when you want one...
Really interesting video! Thanks!
Are the wings that much effective with that small size?
Would the added weight of the semi-active wings be worse than the additional effect it would cause?
I think in the future we would see more wings like you said in the back of the bike or in some other places before investing in the semi-active wings.
Thoughts?
nah, motors weigh next to nothing, if you pissed before you went for a ride, youd save more weight
I've recently ridden the BMW M1000R, it uses wings with very minimal surface area but compared to the S1000R I felt a difference when on the track. In theory any added downforce makes a difference.
how may feet behind a ca say at 55 mph would you still be in dirty air turbulance i know speed vechicle size ect comes in to play is there u tube about this
Love from India
I doubt we'll see wings on the back because it's in the bubble behind the rider. Ducati has been experimenting with aerodynamic pieces on the swingarm, though. That's clean air under the bike.
The down force is caused by the low pressure UNDER the wing, opposite to an airplane.
Active wings computered controlled. They move up and down. What's so hard, wings do it now on race cars.
they even did it 10 years ago on audis.
2ND video ive watched with that alarm low battery in the background 😅
down boy !
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Like your program，no longer watch Mcn since you left
They don't work in the real world, look at the top gear caparo t1 video it's the same principle.
More shit that we don't really need to make biking even more expensive. You go to your average bike meet and nearly everyone is over 40 years old or usually 50 to 60 . The manufacturers are cutting their own throats by making bikes out of reach to younger riders and eventually old guys with the money to buy these bikes will die out . We need young blood to come back to biking . Maybe free training and manufacturer insurance incentives like Kawasaki did back in the eighties.
Wings are still a complete BS when it comes to motorcycles. They don't do much, except load the suspensions just by a teensy-weensy bit (which is counter intuitive anyway!) that will be easily soaked up by the suspensions. The entire kgs of downforce that has been told to be generated from these wings can be easily put to shame by adding a fraction of that down force's weight with a heavier spare part or heavier rider. Any day, a down force created on a motorcycle by a slightly heavier parts. (Just a few hundred grams) will eat the downforce created by these wings, all day!
However, increasing the weight on the bike isn't any ideal way of increasing it's performance. Hence aerodynamically perfecting a wing's shape to increase the downforce it generates in higher speeds beyond it's own weight is still a very very very negligible factor even with today's Moto GP machines. Just like with other base less automobile trends, wings on motorcycles will die soon as well.