Outstanding video, thank you very much for sharing! A couple weeks ago, I replaced all the belts and the water pump, timing belt tensioner, and AC tensioner pulley on my 1990 Legend and your video was a huge help. It really isn't a very hard job if you take your time. As stupid as it sounds, the worst part was getting the lower and front upper covers in and out. In no particular order, I do have a few tips to add though: 1. Before putting the timing belt on, push the tensioner back as far as it will go and tighten the bolt down to keep it there. This way, you aren't fighting the spring while trying to put the belt on. You still have to force the belt on a little, but not bad. I believe I put it around the tensioner last. 2. The service manual procedure for setting the tension is to set the crankshaft to TDC with the cam timing marks lined up and then turn the crank clockwise until the cams move by 9 teeth, This puts the slack at the tensioner. I still gave the tensioner a good push before tightening it down to make sure all the slack was out, but don't add pressure to the tensioner while tightening the bolt! The spring will do that for you and too tight is bad too. 3. If you find an OEM tensioner with the part numbers 14510-P0G-A01 or 14510-PH7-004, don't buy them, they won't fit! The former is for the 2.7 Accord and I assumed it would fit the Legend, but the pulley is too narrow. The latter is supposed to be for the 2.5 and 2.7 Legend and was supposed to replace the original 14510-PH7-003, but it's not even close to fitting. As far as I can tell, it doesn't fit any Honda/Acura ever made, but please correct me if I'm wrong about that. 4. If you don't have an engine lift, you can carefully use a block of wood under the oil pan to raise and lower the engine as needed. That's what I did just because the jack was a lot less bulky, just be careful to not bend/dent the oil pan. 5. As an alternative to the starter trick or for tightening the crank bolt, if you are fortunate enough to have a 5 speed, you can put it in 5th gear and have someone hold the brake pedal. This locks up the engine so you can easily remove and install the bolt. That's how I did it, but that trick won't work if you have an auto. 6. I don't remember having any major trouble getting the alternator back in, but I think I put it on before the power steering pump. If you are having trouble getting it into the bracket where the 14MM bolt goes through, push/hammer the sleeve in the bracket on the engine on the passenger side towards the passenger side a tiny bit. This makes a LOT more room to get it in. When you tighten the bolt, the sleeve will get pushed back into the proper position against the alternator. That's all I can think of at the moment, but if anyone has more tips, please let us know. Also, if you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll do my best to help.
I just did the timing belt in our 96 Accord 2.7 . What a SOB of a job . I took your advice of doing the front pulley, crank, idler, and back pulley. Runs good. Our belt broke because the water pump seized and luckily it didn’t crack up the engine.
Love the enthusiasm in this build! I had an 89 coupe for my first car and I absolutely loved it! Even though it was a beater. I noticed you used a stant thermostat. My only critique is if you're going to go to all that trouble and work to replace the t belt and water pump, I'd personally invest in an OEM thermostat from Honda. I've had too many issues with aftermarket thermostats in these Hondas. They usually start sticking and usually they stick closed. Lol
i did the alternator on my 90 Legend Couple in a field in 95 degree heat in coastal sc. literally do not remember having issues with it. but that was 22 years ago. I sweated like hell and drank 3 or 4 big bottles of gatorade. i miss that car.
For what it's worth, my 1990 Legend's original alternator just failed before I recently bought it. Amazingly, it still spins very smoothly and quietly, it just doesn't charge. I'm going to have the original rebuilt since no one reputable sells them new, at least that I could find.
Awesome! This is exactly what I needed. Thank you. The Legend went to the bottom of the project list for a 93 Sonoma but this video alone brought the Legend back to a high place on the list. Also, if you know. What is the part number/replacement size for the altetnator adjustment bolt. I haven't seen mine in over a decade. (Lost it during alternator replacement job, found it at the end after improvising, put the bolt in a "place I wouldn't lose it" so of course, I haven't seen it since.
The vertical bolt is 90043-PH7-000 and the horizontal bolt is 31114-PL2-000 and the nut is 94050-08080. I believe the vertical bolt has been discontinued though...
@@6thGearGarage Awesome thank you! It figures, pretty much everything is discontinued. It's the biggest weakness of the Legend, part availability. At least now I know what Im looking for.
My father & I are working on head gaskets for a 97 Accord 2.7l V6 and we've gotten to our reassembly process. I've printed off a few different sheets of instruction from All Data to prepare us for timing the motor when we had to inevitably do so after installing the camshafts, rocker arms, & push rods. We've been trying to get the slack to ease its way to the tensioner like you were demonstrating in the video but our belt wanted to skip a tooth while we tried rotating the crank. Would you have any advice on what we could do to properly relieve tension in the belt in order to install the tensioner correctly?
Hi, I struggled with mine a bit off camera, but I can't think of any other way that I could have gotten it to work. If it's skipping a tooth, are you sure everything is at TSC before starting and that nothing moved at all while installing the belt?
What I did is I pushed the tensioner all the way back and tightened the bolt down to hold it in place while I put the belt on so I wasn't fighting the spring. It was still a somewhat tight fit, but not bad. I put it around the crank gear last since it's the smallest and most accessible. I didn't have any problems with it jumping. If the belt is jumping when you turn the crank, it sounds like the belt is either not tight enough or one of the pulleys isn't turning freely.
Hi, I’m also working on my honda legend 2,7 v6. It’s the same block but it has 177hp. I’ve searched everywhere and I can’t find any timing belt + water pump on the market. I’d be grateful if you could tell me where did you buy this one 🙏 😊
Thanks! This is great as I'm about to do the same on my '89 Legend L Coupe. I have the service manuals, but it sure is good to see each step in a video. Is there a reason that you didn't leave the tensioner spring off the perch until after you put the timing belt over all the gears?
I followed the order of the service manual. I left the spring tensioner on because I wanted to be sure the belt wouldn't move at all after I got it lined up. It' a long job for sure, but you'll save a lot of $$$ doing it yourself.
@@6thGearGarage If there was a mechanic near me that had experience changing several of these on Legends, I'd consider letting them do it. I'll leave another comment with some tips in case you have alternator trouble. I just repaired mine. So, when I watched the video, I was thinking, "Don't tighten the power steering belt yet!"
Awesome! Very nice work! 👌💪 Please tell me where you get the pieces from(the belts and the water pump) Are the only parts are missing😁 I appreciate the video!🙏
I have a friend that bought the exact same car a 1990 I think at an auction for $300, He says he cant find a cam sensor for. it that went bad. I was thinking there must be a compatible Honda replacement, He says he cant find anything so he poor car just sits.. ANY HELP ON WHERE TO FIND A CAM SENSOR THE ACURA LEGEND 6 CYL ? please and thank you.
I'm betting they're discontinued, like so many other parts for these cars. Auto parts stores will sell them in pre-cut lengths with the fitting and flare already installed, so you do't have to mess with a flare kit.
Outstanding video, thank you very much for sharing! A couple weeks ago, I replaced all the belts and the water pump, timing belt tensioner, and AC tensioner pulley on my 1990 Legend and your video was a huge help. It really isn't a very hard job if you take your time. As stupid as it sounds, the worst part was getting the lower and front upper covers in and out. In no particular order, I do have a few tips to add though:
1. Before putting the timing belt on, push the tensioner back as far as it will go and tighten the bolt down to keep it there. This way, you aren't fighting the spring while trying to put the belt on. You still have to force the belt on a little, but not bad. I believe I put it around the tensioner last.
2. The service manual procedure for setting the tension is to set the crankshaft to TDC with the cam timing marks lined up and then turn the crank clockwise until the cams move by 9 teeth, This puts the slack at the tensioner. I still gave the tensioner a good push before tightening it down to make sure all the slack was out, but don't add pressure to the tensioner while tightening the bolt! The spring will do that for you and too tight is bad too.
3. If you find an OEM tensioner with the part numbers 14510-P0G-A01 or 14510-PH7-004, don't buy them, they won't fit! The former is for the 2.7 Accord and I assumed it would fit the Legend, but the pulley is too narrow. The latter is supposed to be for the 2.5 and 2.7 Legend and was supposed to replace the original 14510-PH7-003, but it's not even close to fitting. As far as I can tell, it doesn't fit any Honda/Acura ever made, but please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
4. If you don't have an engine lift, you can carefully use a block of wood under the oil pan to raise and lower the engine as needed. That's what I did just because the jack was a lot less bulky, just be careful to not bend/dent the oil pan.
5. As an alternative to the starter trick or for tightening the crank bolt, if you are fortunate enough to have a 5 speed, you can put it in 5th gear and have someone hold the brake pedal. This locks up the engine so you can easily remove and install the bolt. That's how I did it, but that trick won't work if you have an auto.
6. I don't remember having any major trouble getting the alternator back in, but I think I put it on before the power steering pump. If you are having trouble getting it into the bracket where the 14MM bolt goes through, push/hammer the sleeve in the bracket on the engine on the passenger side towards the passenger side a tiny bit. This makes a LOT more room to get it in. When you tighten the bolt, the sleeve will get pushed back into the proper position against the alternator.
That's all I can think of at the moment, but if anyone has more tips, please let us know. Also, if you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll do my best to help.
Wow these are great tips, thanks for sharing. I'm going to pin this so everyone will hopefully read it!
I just did the timing belt in our 96 Accord 2.7 . What a SOB of a job . I took your advice of doing the front pulley, crank, idler, and back pulley. Runs good. Our belt broke because the water pump seized and luckily it didn’t crack up the engine.
Very lucky indeed!
Love the enthusiasm in this build! I had an 89 coupe for my first car and I absolutely loved it! Even though it was a beater. I noticed you used a stant thermostat. My only critique is if you're going to go to all that trouble and work to replace the t belt and water pump, I'd personally invest in an OEM thermostat from Honda. I've had too many issues with aftermarket thermostats in these Hondas. They usually start sticking and usually they stick closed. Lol
I always thought Stant was a good brand, but I have had an autozone brand thermostat not work right out of the box before!
i did the alternator on my 90 Legend Couple in a field in 95 degree heat in coastal sc. literally do not remember having issues with it. but that was 22 years ago. I sweated like hell and drank 3 or 4 big bottles of gatorade. i miss that car.
I miss this car. It turned more heads than any of my other vehicles. Nobody around here knew what it was since they all rusted away long ago.
I dont know anything but im surprised the alternator is still good 👍 this is awesome
Yeah, surprised it wasn't seized up after all that sitting.
For what it's worth, my 1990 Legend's original alternator just failed before I recently bought it. Amazingly, it still spins very smoothly and quietly, it just doesn't charge. I'm going to have the original rebuilt since no one reputable sells them new, at least that I could find.
Helped us out alot! Great vid
Awesome! This is exactly what I needed. Thank you. The Legend went to the bottom of the project list for a 93 Sonoma but this video alone brought the Legend back to a high place on the list.
Also, if you know. What is the part number/replacement size for the altetnator adjustment bolt. I haven't seen mine in over a decade. (Lost it during alternator replacement job, found it at the end after improvising, put the bolt in a "place I wouldn't lose it" so of course, I haven't seen it since.
The vertical bolt is 90043-PH7-000 and the horizontal bolt is 31114-PL2-000 and the nut is 94050-08080. I believe the vertical bolt has been discontinued though...
@@6thGearGarage Awesome thank you!
It figures, pretty much everything is discontinued. It's the biggest weakness of the Legend, part availability. At least now I know what Im looking for.
My father & I are working on head gaskets for a 97 Accord 2.7l V6 and we've gotten to our reassembly process. I've printed off a few different sheets of instruction from All Data to prepare us for timing the motor when we had to inevitably do so after installing the camshafts, rocker arms, & push rods. We've been trying to get the slack to ease its way to the tensioner like you were demonstrating in the video but our belt wanted to skip a tooth while we tried rotating the crank. Would you have any advice on what we could do to properly relieve tension in the belt in order to install the tensioner correctly?
Hi, I struggled with mine a bit off camera, but I can't think of any other way that I could have gotten it to work. If it's skipping a tooth, are you sure everything is at TSC before starting and that nothing moved at all while installing the belt?
What I did is I pushed the tensioner all the way back and tightened the bolt down to hold it in place while I put the belt on so I wasn't fighting the spring. It was still a somewhat tight fit, but not bad. I put it around the crank gear last since it's the smallest and most accessible. I didn't have any problems with it jumping. If the belt is jumping when you turn the crank, it sounds like the belt is either not tight enough or one of the pulleys isn't turning freely.
Hi, I’m also working on my honda legend 2,7 v6. It’s the same block but it has 177hp. I’ve searched everywhere and I can’t find any timing belt + water pump on the market. I’d be grateful if you could tell me where did you buy this one 🙏 😊
Hi, I found this one on Rock Auto. I checked the dealership and OEM timing belts are no longer available from Honda/Acura.
Thanks, by the way I love your content !!
Thanks! This is great as I'm about to do the same on my '89 Legend L Coupe. I have the service manuals, but it sure is good to see each step in a video. Is there a reason that you didn't leave the tensioner spring off the perch until after you put the timing belt over all the gears?
I followed the order of the service manual. I left the spring tensioner on because I wanted to be sure the belt wouldn't move at all after I got it lined up. It' a long job for sure, but you'll save a lot of $$$ doing it yourself.
@@6thGearGarage If there was a mechanic near me that had experience changing several of these on Legends, I'd consider letting them do it. I'll leave another comment with some tips in case you have alternator trouble. I just repaired mine. So, when I watched the video, I was thinking, "Don't tighten the power steering belt yet!"
@@ronoconnor3910 Haha yep! I learned some things the long way in this video...
Awesome! Very nice work! 👌💪
Please tell me where you get the pieces from(the belts and the water pump)
Are the only parts are missing😁
I appreciate the video!🙏
The belt was no longer available from the dealer, so I ordered them from Rockauto.com They are the Gates brand, which is good quality.
Great content and channel
Thank you!
Hey! I see you got the RPM gauge working, what did you find the cause was for that??
It was a cheap fix... I ended up removing the cluster and cleaning/resoldering the joints for the tach.
I have a friend that bought the exact same car a 1990 I think at an auction for $300, He says he cant find a cam sensor for. it that went bad. I was thinking there must be a compatible Honda replacement, He says he cant find anything so he poor car just sits.. ANY HELP ON WHERE TO FIND A CAM SENSOR THE ACURA LEGEND 6 CYL ? please and thank you.
Unfortunately, there are no new cam sensors available. Nobody makes them and a compatible one has not been discovered yet.
Nice job! You had me going when you said the lubricate the timing belt! Ha!
Hey, I have a 1988 Acura Legend Coupe and need some help finding fuel line replacements.
I'm betting they're discontinued, like so many other parts for these cars. Auto parts stores will sell them in pre-cut lengths with the fitting and flare already installed, so you do't have to mess with a flare kit.
@@6thGearGarage Thank you for your help!
Please add Arabic subtitles to the video
Added :)